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Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

Luigi Mangione is in big trouble now

Fri, 31 Jan 2025

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Luigi Mangione allegedly murdered UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson

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Chapter 1: Who is Luigi Mangione and what happened?

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So this guy, his name's Luigi. And Luigi just unalived a man. And people love him for it. So Luigi's got a lot going for him. He was a valedictorian in his high school, he went to an Ivy League university, and he's generally a charming and friendly dude. And one day, he decides to move to Hawaii. I mean, he's in his 20s, he has a remote job, so why not? And there, Luigi learns to surf.

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Chapter 2: What health issues did Luigi face?

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Here's the thing, though. Luigi has had bad back pain since he was a little kid. He actually has a condition called spondylolisthesis. And I guess all the surfing aggravates his spondylolisthesis and his back starts hurting like crazy. In fact, it's so bad that he's in bed for a week and even after he recovers enough to get out of bed, the pain doesn't really go away.

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Chapter 3: How did Luigi's pain affect his lifestyle?

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So most days, Luigi's just in pain and it sucks. So he does his research and he starts reading books about chronic back pain and he does everything he can to help himself. But nothing seems to work and this back problem is really starting to consume his life. Like he's not sleeping right and he can't surf, he can't have sex, he can't live the active life he wants in Hawaii.

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So eventually he leaves. And I don't know exactly where he goes after this, but things continue to get worse. Like the pain is just unbearable. Sometimes his legs feel numb and he just never feels rested. And this is just a bit of speculation on my part because we don't have all the info right now, but it is speculated that this whole time he's battling with his health insurance provider.

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Chapter 4: What led to Luigi's decision for surgery?

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trying to get them to cover his treatment. And that, unfortunately, isn't going too well, as these things generally don't. And eventually, something happens to him that gets him sent to the ER. And from there, he has to schedule a surgery for his back, no matter what it costs. I mean, there's no other way around it. This is ruining his life.

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Chapter 5: How did Luigi's surgery change his life?

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So he schedules the surgery, and he gets it, and it's a spinal fusion surgery where doctors fuse part of the spine together. And so they do the surgery and after about a week, he's already starting to feel better. And little by little, he becomes active again. And he goes backpacking through Asia and he ends up in Japan. And this is just what he really needed.

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But again, this is speculation based on how American health insurance works. But it is speculated that during this, he continues to fight with his health insurance provider to get them to cover his back surgery. And they just keep giving him the runaround like they are known to do. And by the time he gets back to the US, Bro has had enough. He's done with these insurance companies.

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Chapter 6: What motivated Luigi to target a CEO?

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And he's done with the US healthcare system. And so he decides to do something about it. And he comes up with this insane plan to assassinate a CEO. So first, he distances himself from his friends and family and he stops posting online. He basically ghosts everyone for months. Then he gets a bunch of fake IDs and he 3D prints a pew-pew and a silencer.

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Chapter 7: What was Luigi's plan for the assassination?

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Then he takes three bullets and on the casings, he etches the words deny, defend, depose on them, which deny, defend, depose is a reference to delay, deny, defend, which is a reference to the shady tactics that American health insurance companies use to deny coverage to people in need.

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Chapter 8: What happened during the assassination attempt?

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And so after doing that, Luigi gets on a Greyhound bus, and they believe it originated in Atlanta, and he takes that bus all the way up to New York City. And there, he checks into a hostel, and he waits. Ten days later, it's early in the morning, and Luigi leaves the hostel and he heads over to the Hilton Hotel. And there, outside the hotel, he waits for about an hour for his target to show up.

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Then, his target does. This guy. Brian. Now Brian is the CEO of United Healthcare, aka the largest health insurance company in the United States. Now allegedly, United Healthcare denies more claims every year than any other health insurer. So a lot of Americans really hate this company, including me. them.

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So Brian is just arriving to the hotel for an investors conference, probably to talk about his record profit margins or whatever. But then Luigi sees him walking up and he walks right up behind him and he aims his pew pew at him and he shoots him in the back and Brian stumbles and he falls to the ground and the whole thing is caught on security footage.

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Which I can't show you the murder but you can see Brian here and obviously Luigi is here. So anyway, Luigi shoots him. Mission accomplished. And he knows he needs to get the hell out of there before police show up. So he jumps on one of those bike share e-bikes and he flees. And you can actually see him on surveillance footage here passing by.

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And so he rides over to Central Park and he ditches the bike and his backpack and his jacket and he hails a cab. And eventually he ends up at Penn Station. From there, allegedly, he gets on a train and he flees to Philadelphia. And so Luigi's long gone. His plan worked. He made his escape. And Brian, as you already know, he doesn't make it. But then the news breaks.

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Tonight, the urgent manhunt in New York City after the CEO of one of America's largest health insurers was fatally shot in a brazen targeted attack.

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And as crazy as the story is, it doesn't really catch fire with the general public until the public learns about the bullet casings. The ones that had the words deny, defend, oppose etched on them. Because this suddenly lets everyone know that the shooter's motive was likely tied to being denied health insurance coverage.

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Something that nearly every American adult has experienced or will experience in their lifetime. And so, real quick, you people who aren't from the United States, I don't think you quite understand. In America, the health insurance business is all run by private corporations. There is no public option.

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So even if you have insurance and you get sick or injured, the insurance companies will very often figure out ways to not have to cover you. Even though you're paying them every month, doesn't matter. They will find a way to not cover you. It's a really f***ed up system that the general public is absolutely fed up with.

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