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Meta's Chief AI Scientist Yann LeCun Makes the Case for Open Source | On With Kara Swisher

21 Dec 2024

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We're bringing you a special episode of On With Kara Swisher! Kara sits down for a live interview with Meta's Yann LeCun, an “early AI prophet” and the brains behind the largest open-source large language model in the world. The two discuss the potential dangers that come with open-source models, the massive amounts of money pouring into AI research, and the pros and cons of AI regulation. They also dive into LeCun’s surprisingly spicy social media feeds — unlike a lot of tech employees who toe the HR line, LeCun isn’t afraid to say what he thinks of Elon Musk or President-elect Donald Trump. This interview was recorded live at the Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg Center in Washington, DC as part of their Discovery Series. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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33.789 - 38.03 Kara Swisher

Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Cara Swisher.

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38.43 - 39.311 Scott Galloway

And I'm Scott Galloway.

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39.731 - 48.073 Kara Swisher

We have a special extra episode for you today. I sat down with Meta's chief scientist, Jan LeCun, at Johns Hopkins University.

48.553 - 50.394 Scott Galloway

So fancy. Listen to you.

50.534 - 52.275 Kara Swisher

I'm fancy. I'm fancy.

52.295 - 52.995 Scott Galloway

Johns Hopkins.

53.075 - 80.759 Kara Swisher

Yeah, Jan. Jan is a really interesting character. We hope you enjoy. Hi, everyone, from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. This is On with Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher. Today, we've got a special episode for you, my conversation with Jan LeCun, Chief AI Scientist at Meta.

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