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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573
Wed, 09 Apr 2025
Navy SEALs DJ Shipley and Cole Fackler join Patrick Bet-David to discuss war stories, Bin Laden’s death, Seal Team culture, sacrifice, marriage, and the mental discipline it takes to serve at the highest level. Raw, unfiltered, and powerful insights from real warriors.------Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH DJ SHIPLEY: https://bit.ly/4lpjgVC Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH COLE FACKLER: https://bit.ly/42ABsUF 👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4📰 VTNEWS.AI: https://bit.ly/3OExClZ🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/4g57zR2🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Chapter 1: Where were you when Osama bin Laden was killed?
Now, I've never said that on camera. Really? Do you remember where you were when we heard that Osama bin Laden was caught? Conducted an operation. He was killed. Killed Osama bin Laden. May 2nd, 2011. And then we hear the story that the body's being dumped in the middle of the ocean.
And if you do that, you end up making him a martyr even more and growing his following even more. Like, look what he sacrificed for the cause.
Was it ever a point where it was so close that if this thing happens and this triggers this, we could be in a World War III overnight? Potentially. Potentially. I want to believe that our military is already ready for the 2045 war, not the 2025 war. What new threats are we going to have 5, 10, 15, 20 years from now? We've seen it. Terminator. When I heard that, I'm like, it's a little weird.
I'm questioning it. And I'll be honest, Trump tanked this when we were on the ramp getting ready to go. He solved it, however he does, whatever he does. He called and literally stopped us on the ramp. Who would love to be on those phone calls just to hear what he says? He'd break the internet. I hate when people badmouth the president.
There's something special about fighting for American freedom.
How was it for you with your father? He was a SEAL. So was he gone all the time and you still had a relationship with him? Gone. But it still made you want to be a SEAL? What's the only thing you know? What is it with this occupation that makes it so difficult to keep your marriage intact?
You can take that one unless you want me to send it. In town long enough to get in a fight, then go out of town and forget about it. My space ruined DJ's life.
My space ruined DJ's life?
That's what happened to me, dude. The way you're talking.
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Chapter 2: How do Navy SEALs handle the mental discipline required for their operations?
How long have you guys known each other? Since what age?
22.
So since 18.
Yeah. But you guys didn't know each other. And you grew up two miles apart?
About 20 or so. I mean, we met in Bud's. And we, weirdly enough, had a very mirroring career the entire time. Were you guys typically stationed at the same place or no? Same team, same command, same everything.
So that's the part that's like SEAL Team 10, 17 years, like same hat, same watch, like... Best buds, outside of, I mean, obviously buds is one thing, but best of buds as well, friends. And in business together. Roommates, been each other's best man multiple times now. Thanks, Nicole.
You've been mine twice.
You know, I had to try a couple out. But you kind of got it down now.
You feel pretty confident about this one? Yeah, she's actually outlasted both of them combined. Really? So what is it with that, by the way? You know, my friend was, when I was in the Army, I wanted to go, I interviewed at 18 Delta, to be in 18 Delta at Fifth Group. at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, and I wanted to go to Sears and go to DLI because I spoke five languages.
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Chapter 3: What challenges do Navy SEALs face in maintaining family relationships?
I tell them don't get married until you've done at least four years. Optimally, you've done eight years. Four of those completely single, just isolating, polishing your craft. Now you find her, you test her out, meaning you make her do a couple deployments as your fiance. That way, if it doesn't work, there's no divorce. There's no strain on the force.
The fine doesn't work. How do you check if it doesn't? Because I remember in the Army, like if you're in the Army, there was a stories you would hear where guy would go come back nine months later, he finds that his wife's with somebody and hey, you leave the broom outside. There was this whole, I don't know if you remember these different things.
I don't want to kind of give some of those stuff away. And guy would come out one day, this guy, I won't say his name, but I clearly remember this. You go to the hotel, he walks in and he sees it. He's devastated. He's going through suicide watch. He's not talking about it for 30 days. How do you test it out when you're gone for that long? What do you do?
Do you have a friend come and check him out? Do you say to the club owner, was she at the nightclub? How do you check them out? MySpace? MySpace ruined DJ's life. Really?
That's what happened to me, dude. What happened with MySpace? Same thing. I was dating my high school girlfriend, went over to Iraq. I'm 19 years old. We're stormtrooping through Baghdad doing the whole thing. And I didn't even have an email account at the time. I mean, I set up a hotmail in 2005 when we were over in Iraq. And then MySpace popped up, made a little profile. Nobody knows what it is.
The social media is not even a thing yet. You type in different names. I type my sister's name. It pops up. Type in random people's names. They pop up. I type my girlfriend's name. Hit enter. It pops up. She's got a profile. I'm like, oh, this is cool. It's got a little bio. Like, this is my name. I'm crazy in love with my boyfriend. His name's Brian. I'm like, my name ain't Brian.
Like, looking around, I'm like, what is this? You're joking. No. The whole thing. She'd been dating a guy living in my house the entire time I was in school. Stop it. Oh, no. Really. So what do you do? Call them. Better pack your shit and get out of my house right now. Never talk to you again. But it's the same thing. They'll start complaining about the deployment cycle being gone.
You're not making enough time for me. I can't. I don't have Wi-Fi. And then it just becomes a huge burden, a huge mental taxation. It's like, is this improving my performance overseas? No. Well, I got to get rid of you. Get away. Or you marry a unicorn like my wife, who's just an absolute gangster. She gets it. And... I can count the times on one hand.
That's tough to marry somebody like your wife, whose father was like... It's like, Mary, you know, guys, I'll never forget my wife. We're getting married. I take her to meet different wives to shape the mindset of, do you know who you're really marrying? And the best person that she sat down with was our pastor's wife, okay?
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