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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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You block out the noise, doesn't matter. You are 100% committed and locked in. But how do you block out the noise? You don't communicate. You don't intimately open up. The emotions are second to the family. Everything else.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Is that part of the job? I think it's 100% what it takes. Because if you're not on your game, the results could be you die. You drop something and somebody else gets killed for it. The repercussions and results of not being locked in and showing up 100% on your game are deadly. And like, there's no question about it.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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And the emotion of the patriotism and what you're doing and what you're fighting for just outweighed it. There was nothing.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Yeah, I was an athlete in high school. And yeah, I was definitely in compartmentalization on the noise. To be hyper-competitive and perform at a super high level, it took discipline and dedication and wherever you wanted to take it. And I wanted to take it as far as I could.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Yeah, you definitely get a chance to come back and perform. I think everyone's pretty open at that. It happens all the time. But they're watching. You've got to earn your seat there every day. And there are mistakes you cannot come back from. And at such a high level, Either you'll get kicked out or they'll set you out and let you be 100% when you come back. You can't be 98%.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I think it's a mindset too. They definitely will pull it out of you. And if you ultimately don't perform, you won't be around there. But yeah, the dials and switches for sure. You want to dial down family, dial work up 100%. I think, too, it's a sacrifice wherever your goals are and wherever you want to go. If you're good just being a big fish in a small pond, cool.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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If you want to get out of that pond and become a small fish in a bigger pond at a higher level, the sacrifice, you may have to leave the work 100% on and then honestly be able to turn that back off but realize you're sacrificing time to reach your goals.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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They're young. They're 12, 9, and 6. The two older ones are super passionate about soccer. The oldest one is getting ready to start travel soccer, and I'm all about supporting them wherever they want to take it, however far they want to. I grew up swimming on a competitive club team year-round, and I had aspirations to take it to the Olympics. I got burnout and I just want to support my kids.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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If they want to take it all the way, I'm happy to go over with them the sacrifice and what it'll take to get there. But ultimately it's on them. I just don't want to push them and burn them out.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I'd 100 percent support them. I want them to be happy with whatever they choose. But if they want to do that, I'd support it. But I give them a very honest conversation of what they're getting into. Got it.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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About 20 or so. I mean, we met in Bud's. And we, weirdly enough, had a very mirroring career the entire time. Were you guys typically stationed at the same place or no? Same team, same command, same everything.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Nothing pre, always post. Yeah, nothing previously before something happened, but definitely after.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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You get trained on it. Yeah, you get trained on it. And there's definitely been some occurrences where human error or malicious will happen and then pretty quick fix on the IT catches. Fired or not fired?

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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From my understanding, too, based off of the religion, they have to be buried within 24 hours. So that was kind of, from my understanding, a respectful way to – Thank you.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I mean, I think the schedule is super challenging. Normally, you're gone at least 300 days a year, over, probably. We're terrible at communicating, great at bottling everything up. In town long enough to get in a fight, then go out of town, forget about it. In town long enough to get into a fight with your wife, and then you leave. Yeah. Yeah, so you never settle anything.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Who's got the bigger dick? Sorry if I have to edit that. I mean, you just got to. But, yeah, what we're doing now, it means a lot to us in affecting people's lives and passing on the knowledge. Does shit talk what we did or didn't do or someone else did 10 years ago? It doesn't define any of us.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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You just kind of rinse and repeat. And I think, again, the schedule, our entire time in the military was all war. So you're losing friends, that kind of stress. You're a single mom, working mom. And you kind of travel like a rock star.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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He really raised the bar, and he provided resources and skills and training for the entire team. to meet that bar and really raised kind of that performance, elevation, culture, environment. What was his name? Barrett Johnson?

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Well, I mean when 20 of us that look like us walk into a bar, it attracts some attention.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I mean, you really had a sense and feeling that he had your back. Like, no one was going to come between him and us and the team. Even if we made mistakes and failed, obviously he held us accountable, but it was very much coaching and making us better and grow. What does he do now?

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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15 years. So, I mean, there are definitely guys that have solid families. It's like, I don't know how they did it. But then there's kind of the reverse where... They get divorced a lot. But the support, family definitely came first. But I think the hard part for us was switching it off. That's what we kind of talk about dials and switches. The work required you to be 100% on all the time.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I think after 9-11, it was a complete switch. You can't just pass off threats. And the communication technology that's evolved across the world on Intel, and I think there's different

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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ways to defeat them even if it's not a missile but I don't think they're missing any of it now I mean they're catching everything and they probably got AI involved as well and you know part of the problem from my understanding with 9-11 is none of the intel were talking to each other and now it's like all the intels are talking to each other all the intels are talking to each other so

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Like all the different intelligence agencies, whoever's collecting and picking up.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I mean, I think with growing in technology threats, I'm not going to say that you can't keep up with them. I mean, it's kind of like I say hacking. You're always like stepping up that code to protect your systems. But as technology evolves, you're always kind of playing that cat and mouse game of maybe the technology hasn't evolved as fast, but your defense is higher and kind of vice versa.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I'll say the limited foreign policy that I somewhat know, you know, we've always helped fund our partners internationally to protect whether it's just a partnership or there's a mutual benefit between those. And we've become kind of taken advantage of on that, on how we help support and fund those and where the countries kind of just depend on us no matter what.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I appreciate Trump's approach on trying to get those wars to stop, understanding both sides of why they're angry, why they're fighting. I don't know the conversations that go on behind closed doors on how Trump pushes them to get the treaties, but I think it's great. It would definitely be something different if we were attacked here and we were having to attack a different country.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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but really trying to minimize and stabilize the countries and environments. And I say there's always a winner in war, but it's like no one's winning. I mean, both sides are losing people. So it's not strategic. And I mean, I think it's just good that he's able to try and create peace on those.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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They always provide an intel package and why. They go over it from start to finish. I mean, it's a complete picture. Every contingency.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I think the side conversations are more on the logistics and the timing. Got it. That more environmental.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Yeah, they're expecting we're always going to step in and cover their back. We're going to fund it. We're going to support them. And there's no real thought of their internal defense system. It's always like they're the little brother, and they're like, I have my big brother, and I know he's always going to show up. And the day he doesn't, what's going to happen?

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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But I mean, I think, again, our resources, our technology are used genuinely in partnership. But some of the countries, I feel like, expect it. And they have no kind of responsibility almost.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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No, I have zero perspective on what their perspective or expectations are with us. But if Russia's invading their country, I mean, you had 80, 90-year-old grandmothers grabbing a case to defend their house. I think we'd have the same if somebody, some other country was trying to invade us. Like, we're going to protect where we live. Yeah.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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whether they're politically involved or not, have some political stance or they have family in Russia. I think there are quite a few stories of, you know, families fighting each other on the Russian side in Ukraine. But it's like I would 100 percent defend my own. And I think that's what they're doing.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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There is something special about fighting for America and our freedom. Tell me what that is. I mean, patriotism. Like, I don't have to know you. We don't have to have the same beliefs. But I love this country. I love the choices everybody gets. I love the freedom, the opportunity. I'll die for it today. Fighting for it. Absolutely.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Our kids, our kids' kids, I want them to have the same choices, chances that we enjoy.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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You don't even think about it. I never thought about it. You just compartmentalize it. Both of us are firstborns. We both left on separate deployments three weeks after they were born. And both of those deployments that we were on were probably our worst. So we came back to a five-month-old. And just super kind of torn up from the deployment too. And not easy.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I mean, I think the worst world war that ever happened would be between AWS, Google, Apple. Like, we've seen it. Terminator. I don't think it's unrealistic at this point. For sure. With AI, the speed, it's evolving. I mean, everybody will have one in their house, just like Alexa or whatever. Amazon kind of will be in there out of convenience. Do your laundry, pick your kids up, get groceries.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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They'll make it affordable. Own it for five, ten years, lease it, buy it, get new models. It'll be a problem when they can't control them.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I mean, Lockheed Martin, I think, um, Definitely didn't sell F-35s to Russia, but I know they sell them internationally. At least what the Oracle said is they don't get our version. So they may look the same, but internally and how they perform, ours perform better. So if they sell F-35s to Thailand, they may look like the same F-35 we have, but ours is more capable.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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That's the trust we have in the government and the State Department and NITAR.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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There are fields of it in Afghanistan. They would burn bricks. Like we would use wood for fires to stay warm. They burn bricks of marijuana to stay warm.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I mean, I remember one time in Afghanistan, it blew my mind, they literally had drug rehab facilities there for heroin. For us or for them? No, like for them. In Afghanistan, you know, treat it like a drugstore. They just had a drug rehab place for heroin for Afghans. It blew my mind. I had no idea. What is the stat, Rob?

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Because there's no conversation. There's no conversation. We're not there. Us specifically are not there to have a conversation.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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There's nothing you're going to say to stop it now. Put your hands out, lay down. That's it. We can speak a universal language. It would be interesting to go over that when you talk about the decrease of 95% of opium. Remember what else was kind of going on around there when we pulled out and China came in and made a deal with the Taliban? They're super rare earth mineral rich.

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It's just been impossible since there's a war being going on to actually be able to mine them. What is that rare? It ties into electric vehicles and batteries. Like lithium or something?

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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Yeah, disheartening for sure. Yeah, it was tough to watch. I mean, it felt like there was no respect for the people that had paid their lives, the U.S. lives, and fighting there and being dedicated. I know a lot of families that lost loved ones, brothers, sisters, sons, fathers, daughters, moms. It just felt super disrespectful.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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And the people that were the last to leave, you know, they felt like they were left to hang out. Yeah. Like good luck.

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somebody's going to have to step in, intervene? I mean, if Trump gets Putin to kind of withdraw, and they get a ceasefire and a treaty, that would be ideal. It's definitely concerning. If we get involved, you know China's going to get involved, and it's kind of a domino effect after that. I definitely see China backing up, North Korea too.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I mean, was your take on it that he was gonna die of old age or from violence? How old is the guy?

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I mean, I think any transition in the military is extremely tough. We were fortunate or unfortunate enough to be doing our military transition in the middle of COVID. You leave an environment that you've known so well, and it's a new introduction to the world as a civilian. Everything from your schedule, choice. I mean, imagine doing something for 20 years. Now you have to go reinvent yourself.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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You have three little ones, you got a next wife, a new wife, and none of your family's around. What am I going to do? I graduated high school 20 years ago. And just the uncertainties, the accountability to your family, not knowing. There are some great programs out there that are really helping veterans transition. And get exposure professionally.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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And there's a lot of really, really smart people that can add value completely outside of the industry that we're in. But it's a mentorship and showing those individuals you can have a great life afterwards. But it's extremely challenging. The PTSD, being around groups, being in front of people. I mean, this... This, like we avoided cameras, we avoided social media.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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And now all of a sudden it's like, I got to be normal in front of cameras. I mean, that's the scariest thing right there.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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It wasn't natural. The natural thing was to avoid it. And luckily we had each other going through it and the transition and it wasn't easy for us with everything we had going on. There are some different treatments that have definitely helped. We did the psychedelic treatment down in Mexico through vets, and that was a great reset.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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I think both of us, it saved both of our lives going down there and doing it. It was a really good eye-opening reset. But having a good community and support network around you is key.

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“I’d Die For It Today” - Ex Navy SEALs Reveal Truth About Osama Bin Laden & Future of War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 573

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We were always confident in our abilities, put our heads together and not having to reinvent ourself, being able to pass on our knowledge and what we're passionate about and our experiences on to the next generation. So you didn't have to learn the same lessons we did in blood. We wanted to pass on that knowledge. I mean, that was something that bugged us sometimes.

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Different teams would do ops and they would go well or bad, but nobody would talk about it. They wouldn't pass on the knowledge. And we really wanted to do that, kind of going through that and doing that. Nobody would talk about emotions. No one would be like, hey, I'm going through a nasty divorce or we're going through a low point. We started talking about it.

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DJ's way better than me about talking about it. But addressing those kind of topics that nobody ever talked about and the amount of people that gave a reaction, I felt alone. I felt like I was the only one going through this.

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Pretty much any experience in any life, outside probably a few, so many people have gone through it, so many people go through it afterwards, but being able to talk about it, that's been a huge kind of key thing in realizing that you're not alone. And everybody has low days, high days, just managing them. DJ, what would you say?

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You can take that one unless you want me to send it. In town long enough to get in a fight, then go out of town and forget about it. My space ruined DJ's life.