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"Couldn't Win Without Me" - Scottie Pippen BREAKS SILENCE On Jordan, NBA Legacy & Bulls Dynasty | PBD Podcast | Ep. 536
Fri, 17 Jan 2025
In this explosive interview, NBA legend Scottie Pippen holds nothing back as he discusses the shocking decline of the NBA, criticizing the modern game for being too soft, Adam Silver's leadership, and the loss of millions of fans. Pippen dives into the impact of the 3-point era, the death of defense, and how today's stars like LeBron James and Victor Wembanyama lack the toughness of his era. He also reflects on his iconic run with the Chicago Bulls, his complicated relationship with Michael Jordan, the GOAT debate, behind-the-scenes drama, and how social media, politics, and player power have forever changed the NBA. Raw, unfiltered, and brutally honest—this is Scottie Pippen like you've NEVER heard him before. -------- 👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS.AI: https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Chapter 1: What does Scottie Pippen think about the modern NBA?
Chapter 2: How does Scottie Pippen reflect on his relationship with Michael Jordan?
And you heard the stories from Carmelo and you heard the story from, was it Bosh? I think Bosh is the one that told one of the stories, right? When you went there, was it, because I would assume on Michael's mindset of going there was to make sure he sets the record straight. It's my MBA. I'm here to set the tone, right? Because you guys had just won one, if I'm not mistaken.
But when you're going there and you're trying to size some of these guys up as well, who did you learn a lot from where you're like, I had no idea that guy had that kind of work ethic. That guy was very disciplined. That guy doesn't drink. He never partied. He didn't come and do this. He had to get his sleep. This guy had to do this.
What patterns did you learn about some of your peers and competitors?
Well, you definitely get a chance to see their work ethics away from the game because we definitely spent time together. But it gave me a chance to really bond with some guys that I probably thought I never would. I bonded with Carl Malone. I bonded with Patrick Ewan. We would work out together. So I got a chance to see what it's like working with these guys, not just on the court, but
off the court, but have an opportunity to go do extra stuff on the basketball court to learn kind of what their extra work includes. What do they work on? What are their weaknesses? Who are you impressed by? Well, I was very impressed with Karl Malone in the weight room. He is a beast.
Because of how much he pushed?
Yeah, yeah. I mean, he is just a beast. I mean, he stays in the gym four hours and just works until you can't pick up a cup of coffee.
So that was him. Wow. Who was very disciplined with sleep and diet? I'm assuming Charles Barkley was very disciplined with... With eating and hanging out. I mean, I've just read about it.
I would say someone who really focuses on their diet probably was more like someone like Chris Mullin.
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Chapter 3: What is Scottie Pippen's view on the GOAT debate?
Probably, I don't know, probably six, seven.
The Kool Coach episode?
Yeah, something like that.
You saw that episode. Was that the one where you're like, you know what, screw this, I'm done?
Yeah, I didn't want to see it. My kids got turned off on it, so it's kind of turned me off. So I didn't have any interest to watch it anymore.
Yeah. Well, very interesting. Very interesting. But to me, sometimes it's when a guy that comes in and is the lead dog and got a lot of the thorns that came his way, it's very hard to be a Michael. And I think it's also very hard for anybody to understand Michael. Anybody to understand Michael.
I think there's only a few guys that can probably expound on that to understand the level of, you know, craziness to compete and the drive. It's not a, I don't know how many people you can put in that to compare it to. Maybe a Brady and a couple other guys that, you know, That's so interesting. I just learned a lot, Scotty.
Oh, yeah. Well, I will say he, Michael, he was built different. Competitive 24-7. Not too many people are built like that. I agree. Willing to compete at any level and at anything. So when you look at these players in today's era, being LeBron, there's really no comparison. When you talk about the level of competitiveness, Michael bunched up.
all of his competitiveness and sort of exposed it out to the world within 12 to 14 years. We saw his whole resume, his competitiveness, his drive, his will to win, what he's want to do. When someone like LeBron has to spread that out for 20 plus years, it's not the same drive. It's not the same fight. It's not the same hunger.
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