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Pablo Torre Finds Out

How John Green Turned Celebrity into Obsessive Optimism

25 Mar 2025

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"The Fault in Our Stars" is one of the bestselling novels of the century. Why did its author just devote five years of his life to a staggering work of non-fiction about... tuberculosis? Because John Green became a super-fan of fourth-tier English football. He employed FIFA and Belichick-level tactics to build a compassionate community on YouTube. He understood the difference between enough and more than enough. And he never forgot to be awesome. • Order "Everything Is Tuberculosis" https://everythingistb.com/ • Subscribe to John Green's YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/vlogbrothers • Subscribe to Henry Reider's YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@Tuberculosis-l1jSurvivorHenry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0.345 - 6.046 Pablo Torre

Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.

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6.907 - 16.289 John Green

I'm on the back of the shorts, the liminal space between left thigh and buttock. That's my chosen area. Why be on the front of the shirt when you can be on the back of the shorts? Right after this ad.

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18.269 - 51.208 Pablo Torre

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. I love this book, by the way. Thank you. I read it. I always have to just like dangle all of the dog ears and the ink. It's burrowed into my head in a way that I want to get to. And by the way, thank you for being here. Oh, my God. This is so cool. I do feel obligated, though, because we are a technically sports show. Yeah, we got to talk about sports.

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51.688 - 55.391 Pablo Torre

I want to talk about how you are one of the most absurd characters in professional soccer.

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55.411 - 58.153 John Green

Thank you. That's how I prefer to think of myself.

58.598 - 65.3 Pablo Torre

the whole idea of you and English soccer, and how do you tell that story for people who don't know the lore of John Green?

65.86 - 81.457 John Green

I fell in love with a fourth-tier English soccer team called AFC Wimbledon. They had their team taken away from them, like the Baltimore Colts were moved to Indianapolis. That had never happened before in English soccer.

81.678 - 93.78 Fan/Expert

On May the 28th, 2002, the FA approved a plan to move Wimbledon FC 60 miles north to Milton Keynes. Thousands of fans felt betrayed. This is the death of Wimbledon as far as I'm concerned.

94.561 - 104.723 Fan/Expert

We did say originally that it wasn't going to be over until a ball was kicked in Milton Keynes or at Plough Lane, but it still doesn't feel quite over until today. It's a very sad day for English football, I think.

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