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Nobody Should Believe Me

Case Files 08: Jesika Jones Part 3 with Derek Jones

Thu, 12 Dec 2024

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Welcome back to the 3rd installment of our 4-part series on the Jesika Jones case. In this episode, Andrea is wrapping up her conversation with Derek Jones. Derek recaps the fallout after Jesika’s lies finally start to unravel: the frustrating journey of working with the DA on the case, Jesika’s sentencing, and how his kids are doing today. Stay tuned for the final episode next week, where Andrea is once again joined by Detective Mike Weber. *** Links/Resources:  Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop Buy Andrea's books here. To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the Jesika Jones case about?

4.236 - 28.407 Andrea Dunlop

True Story Media. Hello, it's Andrea. Today we've got part three of our series on the Jessica Jones case out of Texas. This is the second half of my conversation with Jessica's ex-husband, Derek. The details of this case are just astounding, and I'm so appreciative of Derek for coming on to share his experiences.

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28.867 - 48.532 Andrea Dunlop

Being able to talk to other people who have personal experience with this really remains one of the most rewarding parts of my job. We would love to know what you think of these Case Files episodes and if there's anything in particular you would like me to cover in a future episode. And I wanted to tell you, you can now leave comments on individual episodes on Spotify.

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48.892 - 71.623 Andrea Dunlop

So that's a fun way to get in touch. And also you can always email us at hello at nobody should believe me dot com. If you'd like to support the show, you can subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Patreon, where you also get our subscriber exclusive show, Nobody Should Believe Me After Hours, which is the twice monthly show I co-host with Dr. Bex. You also get episodes early and ad free as a subscriber.

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71.883 - 88.392 Andrea Dunlop

And for the first time, we will have the entire season, our upcoming fifth season, ready to binge at launch over there on January 2nd. We are working our buns off on wrapping up these episodes right now. And let me tell you, I think you're going to want to binge it.

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88.912 - 112.385 Andrea Dunlop

And if monetary support is not an option, commenting on Spotify, leaving us a review on Apple, shopping our sponsors, and telling friends about the show are also things that help us out a great deal. Now, here's the episode. Just a quick reminder that my new book, The Mother Next Door, Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy, is on sale right now wherever books are sold.

112.746 - 132.82 Andrea Dunlop

The book was an Amazon editor's pick for nonfiction, and the Seattle Times called it a riveting deep dive into MVP. And if you are an audiobook lover and you like hearing my voice, which I'm assuming you do since you're listening here, You should know that I narrate the audiobook as well. If you have already read the book, which I know so many of you have, thank you so much.

133.3 - 145.352 Andrea Dunlop

Please let me know your thoughts and questions at helloandnobodieshouldbelieveme.com, and we will bring my co-author, Detective Mike Weber, on for a little book Q&A and post-retirement tell-all special. Thanks for your support.

148.39 - 171.866 Derek Jones

And that's when I really got in touch with Detective Weber, who I will say, first off, he's a godsend. Love that man to death. He contacted me the next day after all this came out. And he's telling me, you know, hey, watch for these types. This is the type of behaviors they'll do. You know, this is what she said and everything. And I'm still still in a shock at this point.

171.906 - 176.85 Derek Jones

I'm like, you know, did this really happen? Like I was still my mind was blown.

Chapter 2: How did Derek Jones react to Jesika's actions?

Chapter 3: What challenges did Derek face with the DA's office?

2270.824 - 2297.436 Derek Jones

or your bio dad he's like we it's it was standardized it's like standardized questioning we have to you know we it's like we're talking to her and we're asking her you know where if they try to ask her who you are to her that she sees you as dad and i'm like okay but when she tells you she don't know don't keep going he's like well after we said that name and she's like oh okay we dropped it there well that was too far

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2297.916 - 2300.957 Andrea Dunlop

After we'd already said the thing, we didn't say anything else.

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2303.238 - 2312.581 Derek Jones

That is wild. I was like, the moment we got home after that, she's like, hey, we looked this person up on Facebook. I want to see what they look like. I'm like, so, yeah, you did open up a whole rabbit hole.

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2312.621 - 2316.182 Andrea Dunlop

Right. Because, of course, it's like, of course, they're going to be curious. Yeah.

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2316.862 - 2337.073 Derek Jones

And I'm like, so and come to find out we can't even find this guy. And I'm like, so I had to break it to her that, you know, that may not even be the person. They're not 100 percent certain. But that came from her egg donor because I don't refer to her as their mother anymore. I tell everybody that's their egg donor. She doesn't when she did what she did. She lost the title being called a mother.

2337.093 - 2340.956 Derek Jones

She's an egg donor. So I was frustrated that.

2341.256 - 2356.189 Andrea Dunlop

So how so you go you go through the sentencing hearing. And I mean, it sounds like at this point. You're very worried that she's going to get off with probation because the D.A. has basically been telling you that this might end with probation.

2356.209 - 2390.087 Derek Jones

I was worried after she broke her bond the second time and moved it to a felony. So I knew she had this on her. I just found out that. We was originally supposed to have an earlier sentencing date, but she got her attorney to get with the judge to ask for a continuance because she had a heart something something scan that she needed to go to. It was on that day. So the judge, you know.

2391.008 - 2414.689 Derek Jones

granted it because hey if she really does have a medical issue let's get it taken care of whatever that day comes for which i remember that day vividly because that was her birthday it was june 25th and come to find out she didn't go to that heart doctor appointment she told her family that the heart doctor or the person that was supposed to do the scan had called in sick

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