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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

458 - The Demands Are Incredible

Thu, 12 Dec 2024

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This week, Karen and Georgia cover the Superbike murders.For our sources and show notes, visit www.myfavoritemurder.com/episodes.Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3UFCn1g. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: Who are the hosts of My Favorite Murder?

1.873 - 32.678 Karen Kilgariff

This is exactly right. Hello. And welcome. To My Favorite Murder. That's Georgia Hardstark. That's Karen Kilgariff. And we're here to podcast into your ear hole.

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Chapter 2: What challenges do the hosts face with video podcasting?

32.818 - 59.14 Georgia Hardstark

Right there. You've been waiting with it open and ready. Slut. How's your day? I had therapy. Cried. What? I think the hormone replacement therapy that I've been on has been helping with the crying. How did it feel? Good. Definitely good. I just I needed like, you know, eye mask under afterwards because we have to be on video for these now. The demands are incredible these days. Yeah.

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59.6 - 62.402 Karen Kilgariff

We're like every Kardashian wrapped into one mask.

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63.864 - 69.087 Georgia Hardstark

I mean, meanwhile, my fucking nails are chipping and gross. But God forbid it looks like I cried. Yeah.

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69.248 - 80.636 Karen Kilgariff

And that we're a human being. Right. I think the podcasting on video is really bringing humanity back to the concept of video. Because most podcasters aren't ready for video.

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80.656 - 88.782 Georgia Hardstark

Well, I keep saying when someone's like, how's the podcast? And I'm like, oh, you know, we're videoing, which is exactly why I got into podcasting in the first place.

88.842 - 89.062 Karen Kilgariff

Yeah.

89.082 - 90.823 Georgia Hardstark

Was to fucking be on video. Yeah. Yeah.

91.103 - 113.358 Karen Kilgariff

It's a dream come true. It truly is. Look, just break it down. I did a double coat of mascara. Ooh. Always a mistake. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Because when you put it on when it's dry, oh, it's just crunchy. It's crunchy. And then like, I'm trying to get those lashes like in the corner that. Oh, yeah. After a while, they're just like, hey, don't come for us anymore. We don't.

113.498 - 114.598 Karen Kilgariff

We're not showing up for you.

Chapter 3: What is the significance of the Superbike murders?

568.846 - 591.132 Karen Kilgariff

We have exciting news to celebrate the release of our latest Rewind episode, which is episode 23. We're going to relaunch the very first day out of the forest design by the amazing artist and our friend Kat Solon. They're limited edition. Don't wait. Go over to MyFavoriteMurder.com and get yours before they're gone.

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591.312 - 611.24 Georgia Hardstark

And while you're there, you can check out all of the promo codes from our advertisers. So whenever we do those ads, you guys, and we have the discount codes, you can find them all at MyFavoriteMurder.com slash promos. You'll get the discounts and it kind of hooks us up a little bit, too, in that the advertisers know that it's working. Keep advertising with us. It's the old tell them we sent you.

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611.26 - 612.341 Georgia Hardstark

Tell them we sent you.

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612.361 - 631.858 Karen Kilgariff

That's how you tell them we sent you. Right. And you get a discount. Also, remember, as always, that when you rate and review and follow all of our podcasts, it makes a huge difference in the business, but also in our hearts. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. This season, something, something. Yeah, this season, this holiday season.

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632.879 - 641.404 Georgia Hardstark

And then this is really exciting. It's silly and fun. So our ninth anniversary of this fucking podcast is coming up in January.

641.564 - 660.736 Karen Kilgariff

That's right. It's January 13th. So when it's someone's first anniversary, you give them paper. When it's their 20th, you give them China. Well, we looked it up and we're all just working toward the 60th where you get diamonds. But we looked it up and your ninth anniversary, you get pottery. Yeah.

661.156 - 679.502 Georgia Hardstark

Ceramics. Ceramics. Yeah. So we're not telling you guys what to get us, but, you know, because it is a traditional gift, if you are so inclined and you're a pottery ceramic murderino, you know. A ceramarino. A ceramarino, an MFM maker, then, you know, we want that. We want to see your art.

679.602 - 696.501 Karen Kilgariff

Yes. You can take a picture of it and post it, or you can actually mail it to us snail mail style. Send them to My Favorite Murder Inc. at P.O. Box 39585 LACA 90039. Boom.

696.742 - 708.833 Georgia Hardstark

Make sure you hashtag it. Hashtag MFM9th. Yeah. So that we know and we're going to like repost them. We're going to make some fun videos, show them off. So like get creative, which you already are.

Chapter 4: Who were the victims in the Superbike murders?

878.965 - 897.952 Georgia Hardstark

So today we're donating $10,000 to the Center for Reproductive Rights. You know them. You love them. They're so fucking necessary. We need them. We don't really have them. Many of you won't be having them. They come, they go. What the fuck? You've got to fight, fight, fight. And so the Center for Reproductive Rights is a global organization working to ensure that reproductive rights are protected.

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898.032 - 898.532 Georgia Hardstark

Imagine that.

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898.772 - 909.294 Karen Kilgariff

They've worked across five continents to secure access to legal and safe abortion, contraception and more. And they're reshaping how courts and governments safeguard these essential freedoms.

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909.434 - 917.856 Georgia Hardstark

So at a time like this, they're obviously a very incredibly important organization. So if you'd like to join us in giving, go to their website, ReproductiveRights.org.

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918.096 - 922.557 Karen Kilgariff

And let's keep fighting for fairness and human dignity as we step into this new year. Amen.

926.124 - 936.897 Georgia Hardstark

You guys know how we do it on our vacation. We just have prerecorded a bunch of episodes where only one of us does a story. It just kind of helps us not go fucking crazy. So this week is Karen's story.

936.997 - 938.819 Karen Kilgariff

Yes, I go by myself.

939.2 - 953.109 Georgia Hardstark

Are you ready to hear a story? I cannot tell you how ready I am to sit back. I'll do how great it's been today and not have to be like multiple times today. I was like, fuck my story. Fuck my story. Yeah. My story must suck because I don't know what it is. You know, and then I remember.

953.209 - 977.292 Karen Kilgariff

And then you're like, I remember that I can forget that today is my day. Always forget. You're kind of technically already on vacation and I resent you for that. I had to put makeup on. That's a whole fucking, that's not vacay. I cherish you. Thank you. Okay. This is a story we have talked about conversationally at the beginning of, it was episode 42, actually, late 2016. Wow.

Chapter 5: What details surround the discovery of the crime?

1679.215 - 1688.317 Karen Kilgariff

So Melissa decides to leave South Carolina for Phoenix, Arizona. Scott's stepfather, Terry, who lost his wife Beverly in these murders, dies. says, quote, What?

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1704.245 - 1716.491 Georgia Hardstark

And I mean, any faith that these investigators are going to solve this when they can't even get the victim's DNA straight. It's just like out the window. They didn't apologize for that mistake.

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1719.192 - 1719.352 Georgia Hardstark

No.

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1720.453 - 1742.553 Karen Kilgariff

Unthinkable. So, obviously, the case goes cold. So then three years after the murders, 2006, Brian Lucas' parents, Lorraine and Tom, ask their friend, who's a private investigator, to review this case. So that friend puts together a long list of Superbike customers from the past year and then goes through and highlights the ones with criminal records.

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1743.374 - 1752.35 Karen Kilgariff

The detectives on the case had only focused on customers from the past 90 days from the murder. That's it. They're like, let's just do 90. We'll do 90.

1752.491 - 1753.898 Georgia Hardstark

It's too hard to do more than that.

1754.933 - 1762.418 Karen Kilgariff

Or just like this is what we thought of first, so this is what we're going to do no matter the non-results from that plan.

1762.438 - 1768.101 Georgia Hardstark

Exactly. When you don't find him in the 90 days, then you go back further. That's what investigation is.

1768.121 - 1783.931 Karen Kilgariff

You would think. Well, it would just continue. Right. When the Lucas's hand that list over to the police, nothing comes of it. And Lorraine later says, quote, I feel like they had taken this list and plunked it into the trash. So from here, an entire decade passes. What?

Chapter 6: How did the community react to the Superbike murders?

2521.348 - 2551.266 Karen Kilgariff

There was already so much death in this situation that I didn't want to see more of it. Right. A remarkable amount of grace for a boy who has, before he was even born, gone through so much loss. So, obviously, there's so much trauma and horror around the victims, friends, and family members for all of these cases that lead back to this one evil real estate agent. Yeah.

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2552.347 - 2574.455 Karen Kilgariff

They've had to go through a lot, especially Noel Lee, the close friend who discovered the victims at Superbike Motorsports that day. Oh, God, I bet. More than a decade later, he tells Investigation Discovery that, quote, I dream about it all the time. It's just as plain a day as it was in 2003. It took about a year and a half to where I could get a full night's sleep. Oh, my God.

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2574.795 - 2598.445 Karen Kilgariff

They would show up in my dreams and I would be like, what happened? Yeah. And right before they'd tell me. they would just fade away. Oh, wow. And that is the story of the quadruple homicided Superbike Motorsports in South Carolina, a cold case that was finally solved after 13 long years of waiting, and the survival of Kayla Brown, who made it all possible.

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2598.706 - 2605.928 Georgia Hardstark

Wow. Fuck, I have, like, chills. How do you feel?

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2606.248 - 2624.444 Karen Kilgariff

Well, first of all, there's a bike shop in Petaluma that is, when I was reading all this, it's just what I kept picturing. And it's, yeah, it's just that kind of like, you know, guys who like motorcycles all getting together and standing around in the shop and whatever. That kind of community. Yeah.

2624.624 - 2646.94 Georgia Hardstark

And the mom who supports it so much and the partners who are all in it. It's just one of these stories where you just remember how awful and senseless and... It's devastating. Devastating. And just these people who commit such horrendous acts. And I think that's why we have this podcast is we're so confounded by it that we need to talk it out.

2646.96 - 2663.911 Karen Kilgariff

Yeah. Yeah. And we need to make sure that people like Kayla Brown aren't just like this blip in the news. But it's like that's a woman that survived two months of torture and fought her way out and basically was like, and I have some information for you. That's incredible. So incredible.

2663.931 - 2682.95 Karen Kilgariff

That piece is there's all that tragedy, but then there really is that other side that I think it's the kind of thing that I think for a long time in true crime media didn't focus on enough. Of course. Yeah. Shit. Well, great job. Thank you. That was an incredible one that we definitely needed. I'm going on vacation.

2682.97 - 2688.199 Karen Kilgariff

When we come back, we'll have our ninth anniversary and then we'll discuss what we're going to do from there. That's right. Is that a good plan?

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