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I can't believe it's been two years. I can't believe it was two years since I was with you.
I know. We got a lot of good material out of that discussion, that time, that day. I still see clips everywhere.
Did anything stick with you from the few days that we spent together?
I like, you know, you've kind of repurposed some stuff. So I love seeing that, but I think it's just that
footage going up the mountain with the rock and you chose talking about chosen and unchosen suffering that that's gonna last forever for me i mean it's such a good a good point you know and just that setting to have that message delivered at that time was just so powerful so yeah yeah i uh i really appreciate how complimentary you were about me in the book uh it feels like most of the first chapter is some bullshit that i've stolen or said well well look i if
We need to take a 72-pound rock up a hill, you carrying the rock, and me spouting nonsense. That feels like we're specializing in where our skill sets lie. You know what I mean? Yeah, I see.
But you carry the rock. Also, what did we do, 11 miles? Too much, too many.
At least 10 too many. So that's the furthest that I've run so far. Maybe ever was that with you. And that was trail running. Yeah, it was great. I actually felt great the next day. Sometimes, I mean, you'll know this. Or maybe you won't because you're always running. But the non-runners will know this.
You've always got one body part if you've taken a big break from running and you're not conditioned. There's one body part that always hurts. Like, fucking for me, it's my ankles and my calves. It's like just, it is always on fire. And maybe it's because we were trail running. Maybe it's because the pace was right. Maybe whatever. But I felt great. fine the next day.
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