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Chapter 1: What drives Cameron Hanes to pursue extreme performance?
Chapter 2: What lessons does Cam share about suffering?
Yeah. I was curious about that just because we're so inundated with these measurables every day with the follower count, the likes, the, you know, when you start getting into podcasts, then it is a downloads because in that affects what you can ask for advertisers. And that's all they give a fuck about. They don't care about what type of connection you had with your guests.
They're like, okay, cool. How many downloads was it? You know? So it's like, we get kind of roped into this trap of everything is measurable and it's like, you're not successful unless you're here. And then when you're here, you better be here. So I was just kind of curious how you navigated that just because it is, it's life nowadays. It is. And it's easy. It's an easy like,
Everybody loves like, how do I compare? So it's an easy comparison. That's why you look at the list on like whose podcast is highest rated. Right. But I think Joe's done a really good job of this, too. It's like and I want to kind of adopt. Well, your mindset is very similar now. That's why he can have on somebody like me.
who when I first went on there, nobody, nobody knew who I was, but he, Joe doesn't care. He's just like, am I interested in this person? Most podcasts are like, let's go with the biggest guest. That's going to give me the biggest.
I did. I really, I really think that you can look back on a body of work that was like disembodied, disconnected successes. Or you can look back on something and be like, yeah, that was me. Like that was really me. I put myself out there. And there's some people, let's say that you're in a sport, right? Let's say that you're a powerlifter or something like that.
You want to be the best in the world. You want to be the best in the world. It's not about...
manifest manifesting your fucking artistic expression on the lifting platform pick the fucking weight up okay you know what i mean can you pick it up or not can you pick it up or not and the goal is to pick the fucking weight up and however you get there is how you do it now you may feel transcendent you may feel like this is you really sort of actualizing your potential and doing it in the world
But my goal is to look back on this period of life and look back on the library of work that I do and go, yeah, that was really me. That was exactly where I was. I really tried to be open and honest with myself. It's a selfish project, and I think that the best ones are. And not everyone can do this.
Not everyone can be selfish with what it is that they get to do for art because if you're a trader – Oh, please tell me about how your artistic fucking expression helped you lose money on that USD-JPY trade. No, you have a very, very tightly defined outcome. But in some other writing books and stuff like that, you could write a book
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