Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Framed for Life: How Corrupt Cops Sent an Innocent Man to Prison
Tue, 04 Mar 2025
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Chapter 1: What happened to Jeffrey Deskovic at age 17?
And she had the misfortune of coming across a 29-year-old drug addict who was high. He attacked, murdered, and raped her. I got on the police radar because some of the police interviewed a lot of students from the high school, and some of them told the police they might want to speak with me. And then he wired me up to the polygraph. And then he launched the newest third debate tactics.
He raised his voice at me. He gave me my personal space. He kept repeating the same questions over and over. And as each hour passed by, my fear increased in proportion to the time. And he kept that up for six and a half to seven hours. And so towards the end, he said, you know, what do you mean you didn't do it? You just told me through the test that you did.
We just want you to verbally confirm it. Then he added, look, just tell them what they want to hear and you can go home afterwards that you're not going to be arrested. So being young, naive, frightened, 16 years old, I wasn't thinking about the long term.
I was just concerned about my safety in the moment. Well, wait a second. This is starting to feel unfair. And I know specifically that I've been told over and over again that the U.S. justice system is extremely fair. They couldn't possibly have made a mistake. Hey, this is Matt Cox. I'm going to be doing an interview with Jeffrey Deskivitz.
Chapter 2: What was the interrogation process like for Jeffrey?
And he is currently an attorney and was also wrongfully convicted and spent a significant time in prison. We're going to be going over his story. It's super interesting. So check out the interview.
I was born in actually a town that doesn't actually exist anymore, at least not by that name. I was born in North Cherry Town, which of course later became known as Sleepy Hollow. I grew up in Peekskill, New York, which is in Westchester County, New York. So it was a suburbs population of approximately 25,000 people. I would say in...
kind of lived a double life, both in grade school and high school. I didn't quite think of it that way as a double life, but I realized now it kind of was. It was my life in school, my life outside of school. So in school, I was kind of quiet, kind of to myself. I was kind of on the fringes of the society in the school, whereas there was my life after school. So I grew up in an apartment complex.
There were a lot of kids that lived there and in surrounding areas. And They used to come over to the complex where I lived at, and I was one of the main two kids in the sense that what we suggested would generally be what we would do. We're going to go to the movies, we're going to play Monopoly, ride bikes, swimming, basketball, stickball, kickball. We even made up a few games.
Yeah, so I was kind of like an all-American kid after school, but in school I had the quiet, I'm a friend of society, and I fucking thought about why that really is. And then, firstly, I mean, the kids were a little bit older than I was. I skipped a grade. I skipped first grade, and I think that that kind of caught up with me.
But another thing also is that I was familiar with the kids in the neighborhood, and I was not really familiar with the kids that were in school.
Okay. Did you ever get in high school? Did you ever get in trouble or anything?
No, not prior to what we're going to talk about last year. I didn't mean to start talking.
No, it's, it's fine. Okay. So just kind of a regular, I'm not, if there is a regular, you know, upbringing, everybody's either on the fringes or maybe they're popular or maybe they're not popular or, you know, nobody really, I don't know that there's really a traditional, you know, growing up, everybody's got something going on. Um, so what, so you were in high school.
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Chapter 3: How did Jeffrey end up wrongfully convicted?
And so towards the end, he said, you know, what do you mean you didn't do it? You just told me through the test that you did. We just want you to verbally confirm it. And that really shot my fear through the roof.
And then the officer who had been pretending to be my friend, he came in the room and told me that the other officers were going to harm him, that he had been holding them off, that he couldn't do so any longer. You have to help yourself here. Then he added, look, just tell them what they want to hear and you can go home afterwards that you're not going to be arrested.
So being young, naive, frightened, 16 years old, I wasn't thinking about the long term. I was just concerned about my safety in the moment. So I made up a story based on the information they'd given me in the course of the interrogation room and in the Six weeks run up to that. By the time everything was said and done, I had collapsed on the floor in a fetal position, crying uncontrollably.
Obviously, I was arrested. The interrogation was not videotaped. It was not audio taped. There was no sign confession. It was just the cops' word for it. All right. What year was this? Yeah, this was 1990. So she went missing in 89, and by the time they extracted this false confession, I mean, it was in 1990.
So before I went to trial, the results of a DNA test came in from the FBI lab, which showed that seminal fluid found in and around the victim didn't match me. But instead of acknowledging they made a mistake, they continued to prosecute full speed ahead. In order to explain away the DNA, the prosecutor got the medical examiner to commit fraud, to commit perjury.
When there's an autopsy done, there's written in audio notes, which are taken as the findings are made when they're doing the autopsy. So it was only six months after doing that autopsy, only after the DNA didn't match me, that he suddenly claimed that... Try to follow now, this is going to be tricky. He remembered that he forgot...
to document medical findings, which he claimed showed that the victim had been promiscuous, which is what opened the door for the prosecutor to argue that that was how the DNA didn't match me, and yet I was guilty, that she was sleeping around, that she must have slept with someone prior to my murdering and raping.
I thought they were going to go with the old, that just means there were two perpetrators, you and someone else.
Right. Yeah, they go with that sometimes, but not on this particular instance. They took it a step further and they named another youth by name that they claimed she had slept with. But they never set the proper evidentiary foundation for that. So they didn't try to get a DNA sample from him to run the test, for example. They didn't call him as a witness.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did Jeffrey face in prison?
Yeah, I just answered that.
Okay, so my second question is, when you got that news, you were incarcerated, did the lawyer come see you? Did they just say, call the office?
Yeah, the lawyer came to see me, and so I'll tell you the story.
Okay.
It's what we're here for. Right. So the prison guard opens my cell door, you know, when that happens, you're supposed to walk down and, you know, see why they open your door for. And, you know, and he told me I had a visit and I said, well, can you double check that? Because I'm really not expecting anybody. So they double-checked it, and sure enough, I had a visit.
So I remember running back to my cell, and it was kind of a tradition to keep a visiting room shirt, because this is the one opportunity you kind of sort of make a public appearance. So you have your best shirt. So I'm hurrying up to the visiting room, buttoning up this button-down shirt, and then I'm thinking, who the hell came to see me?
So when I get in the visiting room, this woman is like waving at me like this and I wave back, but I'm thinking, well, maybe she's infusing me with someone else or maybe she knows me from a different facility. So I asked the guard, well, where's my visitor? And she said, told me, well, the lady right there, but wait, don't you know who it is that came to see you?
So not wanting the visit to be canceled, I just quickly lied to her and said, yeah, of course I do. And I walked over there and she told me, you know, that her name was Nina Morris and she was my attorney.
And, you know, by this point, having lost a lot of appeals, sometimes on technicalities, you know, like my antennas are up, I'm looking for anything out of the ordinary that might spell bad news. So she says, well, you know, the items have been tested. And I'm like, well, what are you talking about? The items are not supposed to have been tested for another month.
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Chapter 5: How was Jeffrey eventually exonerated?
I wanted to continue the advocacy work I was doing as an individual, but I wanted to do it from a nonprofit perspective and be able to be involved in helping to free people. So I used some of the money, I used a lot of money, not all of it, but a nice portion of it to start the Jeffrey Deskovic Foundation for Justice and
We've been able to help free now from when we opened our doors in 2011 until now, we've been able to free 13 people and we've been able to help pass three laws and then another six as part of a national coalition group. And at some point, I became not satisfied with sitting in the front row of the courtroom.
I wanted to be able to sit at the defense table and represent some of the clients, make some of the arguments. So I recently had my first success as a lawyer, helped to overturn Andre Brown's conviction as co-counsel. He was there for 23 years. Overall, the organization, we currently have 13 active cases, and there's another five that are approved but waiting.
And so now I continue the same work, but I do have a caseload. I do have people that I'm working on, and the case I'm working on, we're doing policy work in New York, in Pennsylvania, California. Pennsylvania is one of 12 states that does not compensate roughly convicted people, so that's a border state to New York.
The foundation, through our coalition, It Could Happen to You, which I'm an advisory board member of, and the foundation's part of, we're working on trying to pass exciting recompensation. In New York, we did pass the country's first oversight commission for prosecutors, the Commission on Prosecutor Conduct. And we're working on some other bills in New York.
We helped to improve our discovery laws that pertain to sharing information between the defense and the prosecution. So it went from being one of the worst states in terms of discovery to one of the better ones. I'm working on a number of bills that would prevent wrongful conviction by coerced false confessions.
So firstly, I want to mention that coerced false confessions have caused wrongful convictions in 29% of the DNA proven wrongful convictions with particularly vulnerable populations that people have mental health issues and youth.
So there's a bill called the Youth Interrogation Act, which the general foundation is active with, you know, coalition partners trying to pass, which would give a mandatory right to counsel for 16, 17-year-olds and kids younger than that, saying that they would have to consult with the lawyer to explain their rights before they would be in position to then make an intelligent decision about whether they were going to waive them or not.
There is a general law in New York that says that custodial interrogations are supposed to be videotaped, but when that law was passed, it made exceptions for homicide, sex offenses, and drug cases, so we're trying to get rid of those exceptions. Like you suggest, what's the point in that? That's the cases we need the most, right? Right.
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Chapter 6: What was Jeffrey's experience after his release?
Yeah, what I was saying is when people see the link from when you put it in, people can share that on their social media and word of mouth so they can help move things around that way also.
I have a Patreon, and I mean, look, like, 10 bucks helps. People think, oh, well, you know, I don't really have anything. Well, you know, I'd like to, but listen, I'm not asking for $400 a month, 10 bucks, $9, $9.99, you know, sign up for a nice thing about Patreon. You can sign up for $3. Like I, you know, if it's, if it's 50, that's great. If it's $10, it adds up. Right.
I don't mean, and you know, so I'm, I'm extremely appreciative of anybody that can, anybody that can contribute in any way, especially because they don't have to. You know, they don't owe me anything. So, you know, and they don't owe you anything, but you're, if it's a good pause, then, you know, throw a little bit of money that way, if you can. Sure.
Chapter 7: How can wrongful convictions be prevented in the future?
You know, people, you know, last year there were, there were maybe, I want to say like five to 10 people that, you know, they did, um,
facebook birthday party things well for my birthday this year i'm trying to raise this much for this entity you know a bunch of people did that for the foundation week you know about getting getting some checks that's another that's another way of um doing that or look if you know somebody that you know does a podcast or does blog radio or does a blog or they do reporting of one kind or another
Definitely, you know, ever mentioned because, you know, I don't gauge the show size and the size of I'm going to go on or not. I go on because they might just one person. I might just reach one person that's a key person that can help them one way or another. Or maybe it's just one person that, you know, it enlightens or one way.
You never know who may go into, you know, a mission and doing something really positive and they felt inspired by one thing or another. Speaking of which, if there's any future lawyers listening, like I always say in person, I do encourage people to take on one wrongful conviction case pro bono in the course of your career.
But going back to prison for just a second, you know, in the documentary short on Amazon Prime, Conviction is Called About Me, you know, I used some of the platform that the director and producer, G. Awards, gave me. To bring some attention to some of the non-innocence justice reform work, right?
My rationale is, look, the fact that it's about me means that wrongful conviction, false accusation is automatically going to get some play. Just automatically, because it's about me. But I used some of that... to bring attention to many things I either was personally affected by in prison or that I witnessed, which indirectly impacts me. I mean, I talked about things like mass incarceration.
I mean, there were people in prison that were doing 20 and 30 years for just drug possession. I mean, they weren't some big time drug kingpin, but they had a quantity of drugs that made it a felony rather than a slightly lesser amount that was misdemeanor. And they had those type of sentences, which was more time than, you know, people that had done burglaries, robberies or arsons or even murder.
And, you know, so over sentencing and, you know, nonviolent offenders, so mass incarceration. And, you know, I talked about the terrible medical care.
uh in in prison so the prison where i where i was at um elmira you know they had one of the highest uh inmate mortality rates in new york state and how the you know the medical staff their answer to everything was to give over-the-counter medication and come back and then i'd be broke a month or two right but it would take a month and that's just to see the nurse by the way that that's not the doctor the doctor that's like a month or two uh you know um
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