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Introducing..Crime Junkie - MURDERED: JonBenet Ramsay

Mon, 16 Dec 2024

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We are partnering with Audiochuck, so that we can continue to bring our listeners brilliant investigations like Elon's Spies. You can join Tortoise as a member to get early and ad-free access to new series and support our investigations at www.tortoisemedia.com/invite.Introducing...Crime Junkie - MURDERED: JonBenet Ramsay The morning after Christmas Day 1996, six-year-old JonBenét Ramsey was reported missing... only for her body to be discovered hours later in her family’s home. Nearly three decades later, the questions remain: What really happened that night? Who is responsible for her death? And why has this case gone unsolved for so long? For years, Ashley Flowers vowed never to cover this infamous case – unless she could hear directly from the Ramsey family. In this episode, Ashley Flowers and Brit Prawat explore the chilling details of JonBenét’s case, the infamous ransom note, and the lingering theories surrounding the investigation. With exclusive insights from JonBenét’s father, John Ramsey, this is a story you won’t want to miss. Listen to the full episode here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Chapter 1: What happened to JonBenet Ramsey?

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As the number one true crime podcast worldwide, Crime Junkie is the destination for anyone ready to dive into a new case every week. Every Monday, Crime Junkie host Ashley Flowers, alongside her best friend Britt, takes listeners deep into the details of a captivating case. From headline-making stories to those you've never heard, it's the ultimate destination for true crime enthusiasts.

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And now, Crime Junkie explores a case Ashley vowed never to investigate. Murdered JonBenet Ramsey covers the case of six-year-old JonBenet, who was found murdered in her home the day after Christmas 1996, sparking countless questions. What happened that night? Who's responsible? And why has this case remained unsolved?

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Ashley Flowers and Brit reveal exclusive insights, including a rare interview with JonBenet's father, Jon Ramsay. You can listen to this episode of Crime Junkie now wherever you listen to podcasts, or you can watch both this episode and the exclusive interview with Jon Ramsay on the Crime Junkie YouTube channel.

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Chapter 2: Why did Ashley Flowers hesitate to cover this case?

69.588 - 72.109 Ashley Flowers

Hi, Crime Junkies. I'm Ashley Flowers.

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72.209 - 72.99 Britt Prawat

And I'm Britt.

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73.39 - 83.015 Ashley Flowers

And I'm finally freaking doing it. I am doing the case that I said I would never do. The case that is our Crime Junkie origin story.

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83.035 - 86.597 Britt Prawat

Yeah, we've said it a million times, but I mean, never say never, right?

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Chapter 3: What was the media's role in the JonBenet case?

87.526 - 106.036 Ashley Flowers

Yeah. And like for I think it is for a long time. I just didn't think that there was anything that I could add. Right. Like it's been done, you know, seven ways to Sunday. I literally feel like there are more like or less versions of the Bible than there are of like books written by people who like maybe even tangentially touch. So like what would we have to add? Right.

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Chapter 4: How did JonBenet's pageantry influence public perception?

106.056 - 135.476 Ashley Flowers

That's kind of how it always felt. But what I didn't realize is like I didn't know the whole story. And I, of course, am talking about the case of JonBenét Ramsey. In all of that time, it was a media frenzy. I mean, in an era of tabloids, JonBenét reigned supreme, next in line only to a literal almost queen, Princess Diana.

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136.077 - 144.763 Ashley Flowers

Like, I don't know if you remember, we talked about this being our origin story, but it was... All over, all the time. You could not go to the grocery store.

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Chapter 5: What are the parents' perspectives on the media coverage?

144.783 - 145.805 Britt Prawat

It was everywhere.

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145.845 - 163.882 Ashley Flowers

And not see her face. And it was all over the news, even in a time when, like, we weren't paying attention to news. Right. And I think it, like, it garnered so much attention because it was this, like, perfect storm of... Christmas time, a beautiful child, a rich family. And then, I mean, put the pageant stuff on top of all of that.

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Chapter 6: How has the case remained unsolved for so long?

163.962 - 181.772 Ashley Flowers

Like there were not only a plethora of images of Jean Benet being sold to tabloids and newspapers and magazines because these photographers had so much footage of her. But the pictures they had of her were of this little girl made to look like a young woman. And people had a field day with it.

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182.412 - 200.657 Ashley Flowers

And even though there was plenty of talk of people asking the questions of whether or not the pageantry put JonBenet in the path of someone dangerous, which, spoiler alert, like, yeah, the conversations always kind of came back to the parents. Yeah, but they made her do those pageants, which the family says is an inaccurate statement.

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200.697 - 213.083 Ashley Flowers

They're like, no, this is something she liked to do with her mom. Like, Patsy was a former Miss West Virginia. Yeah. But all of the tabloids were all about the family. So, like, the family was right in saying that they were out to get them.

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213.543 - 227.933 Britt Prawat

Yes, but, like, which came first, right? Like, it's a very chicken-and-egg situation. If they talked to the police and the police had cleared them, would there be the tabloid that put them in the center of things? Or are they in the center of things? It definitely fed it.

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228.013 - 242.499 Ashley Flowers

Like, again, I think that it started so early, like, surprisingly early. But, yeah, I think it definitely... fed the monster to be like, they're not talking to police. Like, oh, they left Colorado and now they're in Georgia. And things don't get better.

242.82 - 265.39 Ashley Flowers

Like the more time that passed, the more contentious things got, not just between the Ramseys and the police, but also between the police and the DA's office. Like things are being leaked seemingly from every which way. I mean, it was so bad that at one point her autopsy photos were leaked to the globe and those actually planned to print those autopsy photos.

266.994 - 284.826 Ashley Flowers

And it's like the police, they had become convinced that the Ramseys were involved. And so it actually came out in a deposition at one point, like years down the line, that the police were giving information to reporters to try and put external pressure on the Ramseys, hoping that they would crack.

284.886 - 289.69 Ashley Flowers

Like they couldn't do the thing they wanted to do inside of the interrogation room, so they were going to have the media do it.

289.73 - 298.775 Britt Prawat

So at this point, it sounds like police are relying on... Other details almost like not just we don't like how the family is acting to support all these suspicions that they have.

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