IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson
Live with Tina Knowles: Lessons from a Matriarch
Fri, 09 May 2025
On this special live episode of IMO, Michelle sits down with Tina Knowles to launch her new book Matriarch. Tina goes deep on the values she learned from her childhood, how she shepherded her daughters through their iconic careers, and what she’s learned about being a mother. Learn more about Matriarch here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/729803/matriarch-oprahs-book-club-by-tina-knowles/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: What is Tina Knowles' new book about?
Hey, everybody, and welcome back to IMO. Today's episode is a little different than usual, and I think you're going to love it. Recently, I had the privilege of joining my dear friend, Miss Tina Knowles, on the very first stop of her nine-city book tour for her new best-selling memoir, Matriarch.
It's a beautiful and brave story of strong women, fierce mothering and the power of continued evolution. It's a deeply personal reflection on where she's come from, who she's become and what it means to build a family rooted in love and legacy. Our families have been close for years now, and I've always felt a special connection with the Knowles-Carter family.
We've learned from one another and shared lots of memorable moments along the way. And as mothers of strong, brilliant daughters who've grown up in the limelight, Tina and I have had more than a few conversations about what it means to raise grounded girls in a world that doesn't always give you that space to just be.
I've always admired Tina's wisdom, her grace, and that undeniable strength she carries. So sitting down with her in Washington, D.C., on stage with a vibrant live audience was more than an honor. We talked about everything from her childhood in Galveston, Texas, to how she became the matriarch we all know and love today.
and what it means to own your story, especially as a Black woman whose journey has inspired so many. There were lots of laughs, and since this is IMO, plenty of life advice along the way. So today, I want to share our conversation with all of you, recorded on stage in D.C. So sit back and enjoy. Here we go. Y'all, aren't we excited? Yes!
You all don't have to pretend like you are not just freaking out right now. Oh, my goodness. Not just on the best sellers list, but number one. Number one. Look at this. If you all have not bought your copy, please do because this is an amazing read. Tina, how does it feel to be number one?
It feels great.
Oh, my goodness. And how are you feeling? I mean, you're about to launch a nine-city tour. And I know you're not comfortable in the spotlight. You are used to being behind the scenes, making everybody else look good. So I know this is a little uncomfortable for you, y'all. She doesn't know how to be the center of attention, even though she looks like she knows.
How does it feel to share your story with the world? Because let me tell you, when I wrote Becoming, I shared this. It's not about me, but what I'm saying is that, you know, I was all confident writing the book. Yeah. And then the day it was coming out, I could not sleep because I thought, oh, my God, I told everybody everything.
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Chapter 2: How does Tina Knowles feel about sharing her personal story?
Because that's how the comparisons come.
Exactly, because I didn't know what kind of student Sasha would be, you know. So to this day, Malia still feels like, I don't give her enough credit, but she does. She's good.
Well, they are both so brilliant. Yeah. I had lunch with them, and I was just like, whoa. I mean, so confident and smart and talented.
Well, see, the thing is, when we get together, it's like, we don't talk. Because you didn't tell me you were writing a book the last time we had lunch. Because we were so busy talking to these girls who all talk so much.
They do, but it was just fascinating to hear them because they, it was. Those girls are, oh, I don't know what y'all all in for, but.
Oh, okay. One of our many.
Yeah, we, you know, they were so smart, and they just grew up so fast, I guess because I wasn't around them all the time, and I remember when they were little.
Yeah, everybody feels that way.
But you know what I remember is how they are so patient and, well, I don't know about Malia. No, and I only say that because I've had. But we.
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