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House of R

'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2 Deep Dive

Tue, 22 Apr 2025

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Jo and Mal are back to talk about the incredible yet devastating second episode of 'The Last of Us' Season 2. They dive deep into the Battle of Jackson, a major character death, and what it all means going forward! (00:00) Intro (06:52) Opening Snapshot (35:18) Deep Dive (35:57) Abby’s Dream (48:47) The Salt Lake Crew (58:18) Party (Emotional) Hangover (01:09:31) General Tommy Takes Over (01:14:22) 7-Eleven and Weed! (01:20:32) Here Comes the Horde (01:40:40) Battle of Jackson (01:52:12) Fore! (02:31:22) Spores Galore (02:33:21) Spoilers: A Fungus Among Us Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson Producers: Steve Ahlman and Carlos Chiriboga Video Supervision: John Richter Social: Jomi Adeniran Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Who are the hosts of the podcast and what is the episode about?

11.53 - 21.976 Joanna Robinson

Hello, welcome back to House of R. I'm Joanna Robinson. Joining me today, she's not crying yet. It's just allergies. It's Mallory Rubin.

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22.856 - 30.04 Mallory Rubin

Oh, Joanna, I want you to fulfill your obligation to the community of Jackson Hole, Wyoming.

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30.74 - 52.062 Joanna Robinson

Is that the community that I'm a part of or am I part of the Mushroom Network? Let's tune in to find out. Here we are today with you on a Monday morning. Post-Easter, post a big episode of television to talk to you about season two, episode two of The Last of Us. Guess what? There will be a big spoiler warning at the end, but I'm just going to go ahead and drop one here.

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52.202 - 64.527 Joanna Robinson

If you haven't watched this episode of television, please go do that before you listen to this podcast. That would be my encouragement. I'm not usually such a stickler for that, but this week I am. Oh, yeah. So go do that, please. Okay.

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66.547 - 85.038 Joanna Robinson

Before we get into everything we have to talk to, and it's a doozy, it's a doozy of an episode we love to talk about, we're going to do quick programming reminders just to let you know that this week, not only are we covering this episode of The Last of Us, huge, but also Andor's back, baby. Thrilling. It's Andor time. Yeah.

85.318 - 103.869 Joanna Robinson

Episodes one through three, because life is too short to take things one episode at a time. All right. So we will be doing a three, a triple episode deep dive of Andor later this week. It's great stuff. The Midnight Boys Pew Pew are also covering The Last of Us and Andor. They also have the long awaited Midnight Munchies episode this week.

104.209 - 125.2 Joanna Robinson

We've got a button mash Last of Us dive coming over on the ringer verse. We've got Rob and Joanna. That's my name in the third person over on the prestige TV feed. doing some last of us check-in. So there is a lot going on in the content space. Thunderbolts is around the corner. Wow, Ruben. Yeah. How can folks keep track of all of that?

125.99 - 129.212 Mallory Rubin

It's a bloater-sized stretch of pods here.

129.232 - 137.237 Joanna Robinson

One of the times to be us. Yeah, charred and crispy. Both Mallory and I had a that-looks-tasty reaction to the charred bloater.

Chapter 2: What is the significance of Joel's death in The Last of Us Season 2, Episode 2?

407.278 - 435.281 Joanna Robinson

The one where Joel dies. Written by Craig Mazin and directed by Mark Milad. Something that I don't think we commented on in our episode one coverage is that Craig Mazin has solo writing credit on most of the episodes this season, which is... Something to think about. Mark Mylod is a Game of Thrones director. That's how I first met him, but also much more significantly a succession director.

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436.362 - 457.443 Joanna Robinson

Also gearing up to be a Harry Potter director. So he is an in-house HBO guy. Yeah. A couple things I want to say. Through the Valley, we will get to sort of the song that that is referencing as it plays later in the episode. Also, a Bible verse here for you on this post-Easter Sunday Monday.

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458.843 - 479.211 Joanna Robinson

But that Bible verse, Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall feel no evil, for thou art with me. The for thou art with me part was like really, really echoing for me as I was thinking about it because it's just sort of like... When we watch the opening credits and we get, you know, there's all the spores and gores and all this sort of stuff like that.

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479.271 - 506.873 Joanna Robinson

And then we get to Joel and Ellie. Thou art with me. It is us. And now it's not. It's just Ellie, right? Yeah. I should say, and we've lived through this before in the era of the Red Wedding and stuff like that on Game of Thrones. Nobody has been chill about this in terms of keeping a lid on their spoiler giddiness.

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506.993 - 531.291 Joanna Robinson

And I understand it's hard to be, but the number of golf club memes I have seen around leading up to this, people were really, really, really, really excited and a sort of... I don't know a way that I haven't seen in a while for, for people who didn't know this was coming to see this. And I'm curious how many people got into it clean.

531.331 - 546.606 Joanna Robinson

I know Mallory, you got into the section of the game clean, which I am like so surprised by any thoughts you have about the title of the episode or sort of all the buzz leading up to it and how maybe how that moment landed for you anyway. Yeah.

547.788 - 572.599 Mallory Rubin

Yeah, I was. We talked about this very briefly in our spoiler section at the end of last week's episode. But to move it out here on Maine now, unlike stay off Main Street citizens of Jackson Hole, we are allowed to go on to Maine. I, you know, my suspicions had mounted based on certain context clues, but had somehow made it to playing the game without actually having Joel's death mentioned.

572.896 - 593.759 Mallory Rubin

spoiled for me and it was just like a shattering experience book to play it and and now then to just a few weeks later watch it um you know for in terms of what you're saying about kind of like spoiler culture and the different like slices and slivers of a fandom and the moment then when something allows different groups of people who are consuming something to share it

594.199 - 604.986 Mallory Rubin

something, that knowledge together. It is really interesting to come at this from like a different perspective to how we experienced the red wedding, for example, where we were the ones like,

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