Mallory Rubin
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The Prestige TV Podcast
‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Oh, interesting.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Okay.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Do you think so?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
That's in play.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
No.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yep.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Rubbing his hair.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
100%.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Poison smoothie was great.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yes.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
That's right.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 5: Broke or Brokenhearted … or Worse
100%.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Sensational.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Well, she does notice. Like the fact that she has this dream is clearly triggered not only by Lockie showing her these videos, but also by this budding anxiety that something is wrong. And then at the end, she does say to him, like, Tim, is something going on? And then immediately gives up and turns the lights on.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I've never been concerned for this many people in a White Lotus cast at the same time.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I find it very compelling. To listen to him talk. Very compelling indeed. So on Tsunami Corner.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
That's right, yeah. The fact that the structure of the season opens in the future... And then we go back one week to watch the season. I think eliminates the prospect of an actual tsunami. That's a great point. However. Because everyone's just living life. However. But an emotional tsunami.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Oh, man.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
The fruit.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
You know, I think that it is engaging with the theorizing around the opening mystery very actively this season. And I think, you know, I was wondering if it felt like more pronounced this season. But then if you think back, like last year or last season, everything with Tanya and the Madame Butterfly foreshadowing, it's not like the prior seasons weren't doing that.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I love a melon, though.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
It's the blessing and the curse. He's complaining about the time zone, how hard it is to get in touch with people, but it does allow him to delay the inevitable now for just a few more days and pretend that his life is not over. which it is, in terms of the nature of the life that he is used to living, the kind of life that they are accustomed to, that's done, right? He is a financial criminal.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I feel like Goggins will win the season at the end.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Great stuff. I thought the single best acting moment, to your point... that we have seen through three episodes so far was the look on Jason Isaac's face when he pulled Saxon out to have the come here, son talk. I want to circle back at some point to the actual genuine and I thought really sincerely alarming rage we saw from Saxon when he was yelling about how Piper
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Maybe we don't need to circle back to it. That's just, like, let's note that. That was actually scary.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah, the level of, like, real anger that he was capable of generating very quickly there. But that look on Jason Isaacson, on Tim's face when Saxon said, like, I love working with you. I get to learn so much from you. That fleeting, shattered expression that...
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
But it does feel like the let's make sure, you know, the classic great storytelling technique of making sure everything
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
he had failed his family so deeply and the, like, they put him on a pedestal, perhaps wrongly, but to have to confront the fact that that's over, that that is about to be over, that the way his family sees him is going to change.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
every outcome is viable and the one that ultimately ends up happening will be supported in full by the story to that point but you could believe any number of outcomes like I feel like they're doing a great job with that so far Chelsea nearly dying twice in two consecutive episodes makes me actually less worried I know I was gonna say does that make you less worried and the character
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
My fear is that even if he goes on that emotional journey, his family will not meet him there. That Victoria will say that is not what I signed up for from you.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah, I don't have a lot going on.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Oh, there's the meta commentary. It's delicious.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I think on that front and what I see for you in your future, obviously part of it is he's trying to distract everybody, right? Yes.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
there's a tactic at play there but like everything that's great in any White Lotus season there's more than one thing happening in tandem and like it felt to me very keenly there that he was confronting the fact that he had failed his family not just in terms of what he had done but in preparing them for a different kind of life but he's like I actually did allow you to think that it was okay to be entitled and just sit there and like not be prepared to build your own
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
for hardship.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Oh, the whole family is impeccably named. All the kids.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Did we?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Thanks, Pam. Incredible Pam.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Incredible.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Tim powered Saxons down, right?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Exceedingly grim. Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Is Mike White counting on us thinking this? She said, what Chelsea said to Rick at the end, you're not going to get rid of me that easy if you kill me. I'll follow you into the next life and the next.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
No, I mean, of course.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Well, okay.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
But do you think he, I don't believe he has given up his phone for five days. So then my question is when he goes to find it, what else does he stumble upon? Like, I feel like he's going to break into some office and try to get that phone back. Oh, Pam. I know. And then what else is he going to stumble upon?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Maybe Guy Talk shoots him because he thinks it's another hotel robbery? Oh.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I'm just really worried about everyone.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I didn't even think that this was a particularly good con from Rick. He's like making faces of dismay as he is luring her into his trap. But the fact that Fabian is at the table, first of all, we get that very emotional, quick little moment where he's like opening up, right? Before Rick interrupts and he's like, this was... The arts were not encouraged in my home.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
And then he's interrupted and thwarted. But he does not like Rick. No. When they came off the boat in the first episode, Rick was like, fuck all of you. I'm not going to engage in your little welcome ritual. So the fact that he's there witnessing that felt very purposeful.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I obviously loved the conversation between Chelsea and Rick there, which was iconic.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
When I tell you I've never consumed one or thought about it once in my life.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Absolutely no idea.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Our birthdays are a week apart. We're different signs. Look at that.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I was cosmically meant to podcast with you. So unlike Chelsea and Rick, you two are podcasting soulmates because your signs are compatible.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
They're available for a short time only. So for the love of coffee, go try them now.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I thought this was a fascinating, obviously in general, fascinating episode for the Cougars, but a particularly fascinating Jacqueline Laurie episode where I felt more what struck me as authentic affection between the two of them in this episode than between any other pairing in the triangle at any point, but loaded and charged as always with all of the undercurrents of something less savory.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
They're genuinely united in something that feels, like, rooted in identity. And, like, Kate is on the outside of that. But even, like, when they looked at each other when they were doing yoga, there was, like, the giggle. Oh, yeah. That just felt like friendship to me in a real true way. But – I agree.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Jacqueline egging Laurie on here couldn't help the like, but you're the single one. It's not like just go for it and get laid and have an orgasm and have a great weekend. It's like I have to remind you that you're the only one who's like not in a relationship right now.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Speaking of Allure, I would like to just spend a couple moments on Valentin's thigh tattoo. Okay. Which I thought was extraordinary. Okay. And I was- Are you going to get a thigh tattoo? Deeply compelled. Not since recent in the court of Thorns and Roses series.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I don't think he's involved in the robbery. I feel, and we've been talking about this since week one. No, but I do think he is going to play a... Crucial. Tragic and crucial role in the shootout. And what feels most likely to me now after the third episode where I still adore him, but he got one... One crumb, a crumb of hope. Shout out the Landman finale title, A Crumb of Hope.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Above me tattoo has been quite so compelling. Really something.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I was struck by that tattoo. I would not personally, but I did. And I loved the way they all looked at it and looked at each other. And you could just like feel the- You didn't need an energy healer to feel the energy in that moment. My goodness.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I was compelled by that argument.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
It's true. Yeah. Like, that was not how it struck me. I have found them through three episodes, like, incredibly sweet and winning as a potential couple. And I am filled with trepidation and fear, but hope they will be okay and live a long, happy life together. Seems unlikely, but hopefully. But when Rob said that, it was in my mind watching in this episode.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Like, she shows up, and he runs out, and he wants to tell her that someone called him brave. And like, look how big and strong I am. Would you go? Would you leave the island if you came with me? It was, I didn't change my read on it, but I see why Rob is clocking it that way.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Fodder appointee.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, now you have to explain what Apex Mountain is again. Nobody knows.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Saxon saying out loud to Lockie, die a fucking virgin, is the first time I considered that you might be right. I have seduced you to monkey shootout. You have me with monkey shootout. I still say, I just think... I think this guy has fucked a lot of people and is not a virgin.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Have you watched the Landman finale yet? No. We'll talk about it. Or The Sopranos. A little taste of praise. And I say this with love for Guy's talk. fucking up his job. Like, they got in, they committed the robbery and he got hit in the head and then they escaped. And he was told he was brave. He was doted on and checked on by the person he loves. And now he's like, I'm tough. I can do this.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I just think you and Nora have more faith in the undergraduate populace than I do. I think Saxon has had a lot of sex. But again, I don't think he's very good at it or particularly adept at it or has a feel for what other people enjoy about it. And probably has not had a second time with any of his partners. A lot of one and dones. Oh, yeah, certainly.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I do think, though, something is poised to happen there with him pursuing Chloe. Oh, for sure. Is he going to try to enlist Chloe for Lockie? Are he and Chloe going to hook up? I agree. Greg Gary is going to try to harm him?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Again, he still could have just gone with Michael.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
That was so funny to me.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
When she called him a douche, I hear you're a douche.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I mean, they're clocking each other.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
They're at dinner that night. Wild stuff. Yeah, like the fact that he says I can't get my life back. I mean...
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
He's not allowing himself to get his life back.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
And he keeps saying he doesn't want to go to these sessions, but he immediately opens up and shares when he's there with Amrita. The best moment of the episode was Chelsea's like, please help him.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Please help him. Please.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I mean, it was seven seasons into Game of Thrones, you were still texting us like the blonde one.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
She sure does. Boy, that was a tense moment. Was she going to be able to get that scheduled before they had to depart?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I know that the bodyguards, the Hollinger bodyguards have this appeal. Like, let me go offer to be a bodyguard. And... I think there's a pairing of Guy Talk Theory Corner and Monkey Theory Corner. You have won me over in full. Oh, wow. Here's what I'm worried about now. The guests, because we have that Belinda spooky sounds in the villa scene. Somebody hears something.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I'm going to go to Thailand for you. Great, great strategy. Great life strategy for Piper. But Piper feels like we're meeting her where we left other characters at the end of a Lotus season, like Quinn at the end of season one.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
iPad Quinn just wanted to crank it on the beach and then it's like, let me look at this whale instead. I want to talk about a character in an arc.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
My God. And so... Crank it on the beach.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Exactly like CR on the beach. But, you know, he had to work toward a desire to commune with nature and run away from the drama and his family. And, like, Piper's there already. Yeah. So... Her committing to that in full feels, like, very imbalanced, but I think Rick feels like a good candidate for the journey of some sort of awakening.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Like, I don't actually want to live my life the way I've been living it. When he had that line about the snakes and how, like, treating evil things that way only makes them more evil, that applies to everybody in the show so far, but certainly applies to him. He's got to, like, free himself from that.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I really like that. It connects to the question you're asking. People pleaser? You're a people pleaser? I like this because... With the feminine side.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
But that's why he was not ready for that. Because exactly. It wasn't just about, okay, we're going to teach you to sit up straight. This isn't a therapy session. And he was not prepared for it. Though, obviously, all of these characters have quite a bit to work through. So...
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This is the thing. This is like such sloppy shit from Greg Gary. Can't bother to really change her name. Greg and Gary, are we fucking for real? Come on. Bill has been suggesting Mitchell. It was right there. You're still dining at a White Lotus. Belinda identifies you and goes up to you.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I know now I'm moving from the Chloe-Chelsea conversation about what Chloe has learned to the dinner confrontation, the beach barbecue confrontation with Belinda, but it's all in the brew, right? The fact that everybody at that table heard Tanya's name, now they just have to Google that. And they know who... Greg is.
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It sets off a reaction from a panicked guest. And then our guy, Guy Talk, trained at that point to defend the hotel because there are all these shots in the trailers.
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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And Rick's been, like, clocking him. Absolutely. This and that. Like, it's a fellow con man who's not very good at being a con man. I mean, good enough to get the money. You're there in the This and That Club. Yeah.
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But, like, who's going to use what they learn as leverage in that scenario?
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Belinda's response to Greg.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Turkey trying to be a rooster, right? Yeah. Starts firing and then just a sequence of events unfolds. Like accidental chaos. So like that's where are all the guns coming from though? That's the question. So are you comfortable with us talking about none of us have watched ahead. We'll issue our caveat every time. Trailers though.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I'm not going. Oh, no. I would not be going to the snake show.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
So Rick is doing a little bit of the Arbats, a little bit of the Sawyer from Lost, and a little bit of the Harry freeing the snake before he knows he can speak Parseltongue. Do you think he speaks Parseltongue? This was... Okay, here's my question for you guys about the snake freeing. And great, obviously, that Chelsea just confronts him at the end and is like, Rick...
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You freed a bunch of venomous snakes today. Like, this is not a normal thing. I love her. She's the best. What do you think the lesson is? What is the show's message to us? Because Rick does this and then something bad happens.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
One way or another. Because there's something about what Rick is doing here that feels noble and good. He's like, they're trapped.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I see myself in that. That's like a good moment of introspection. And also he is trying to do something like helpful and in theory good. Yeah. Chelsea almost dies.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah. Exactly. Great stuff. When Chloe's like, maybe you just shouldn't come on the boat.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Hasn't been not touched by a man like that in some time. Great stuff.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah. The contrast in. Her facial expression at that table where she's like evasive and also challenging a little bit of the contention that they're bringing. Yeah. And then the face when she's alone, when there's no one sitting at the table, when she's watching them. Each of them now has, in every episode near the end, has observed the other two talking about that.
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Totally. Jacoby. And she looked completely crestfallen, not only to know that they thought this about her, but to see herself through their eyes.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Oh my God.
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It's true. Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
No. This is a big thing to not know about somebody that you repeatedly say out loud is your closest lifelong friend.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
They're not in touch.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I know. So you're comfortable with us talking about trailers?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah, I thought, I mean, it did feel political, but it felt social. It felt like it touched all aspects of life. Like, yeah, they're coasting on nostalgia, right? Now, I think in some ways there's something true and kind of nice about that. Like the deepest or longest lasting friendships in your life, sometimes you do go a really long time without seeing or talking to somebody.
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And the sign that it's a friendship you can count on forever is that that's okay. hey, you can always just pick right back up. And maybe there are things you don't know about each other, but like, oh, you don't know that I became like, or that I have a gluten intolerance is like that bucket. You don't know that I have a deeply like distinct political and moral philosophy.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I didn't study it frame by frame. I just... Every trailer that they've released, the preseason trailers and the rest of the season on, Guy Tak is training with a gun in all of the trailers. So he's getting a gun at some point, though there are lots of other guns in the trailers as well.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Well, I'm curious if you guys, if it struck you guys this way too, like it almost felt like the judgment. I think, yes, if she's like, yes, I voted for Trump. Why are you saying that? And why do you think that's bad? And here's my defense of it.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
who would you want to play have played in so many I mean it's Jon Hamm sitting right there I don't know how many shows he can pop into at the same time oh my god little hammy can just roll over from the hospital bed in Fort Worth right up to pull the plugs out right up to Austin for a FaceTime I want like Buddy Garrity oh you know what I mean like at that level that would be just exceptional McConaughey
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Oh, well, man.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
That would also be great. Well, that would be wonderful. Good to see him again. That would be great.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
This almost feels like it would be too cruel of a thing for...
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
John Grace is like, sign me up. Where do I get to go next? The three-peat star of White Lotus.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah, he is the only one. Yeah. I think he's clearly alarmed to have been clocked. Right. Alarmed to have been made and going to try to ensure that Belinda does not out him. So then my question becomes, what is the counterweight to that?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
No, certainly not.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I don't think she wants to be around him. She has a freaked out feeling. This is part of what the, what's the spooky sound in my room is evoking. It's just a sense of unease, right? She's like, what is that spooky sound in her room? What? I don't know. A snake? A monkey? A lizard?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
It could be. It definitely could be.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
But they are going to say you can't let something like this happen again. And then he's going to be like, I have to. Yeah, I have to make sure.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yachts are always, or boats of any sort, big settings on White Lotus. This is where Tanya could not finish pouring the ashes or mother's ashes into the ocean in season one.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Certainly Succession. The Teak and Succession.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
There are plenty of boat sex scenes in Game of Thrones. Very famous. Very famous boat sex scenes.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
That makes me think it can't be the setting of some murder. Terrible act of vengeance or murder here. So is Sex O'Clock. I hope so.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah. Great show. Great program.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Let's get some Tom and Greg back in our lives. You want a Tom and Greg spin-off? Of course I do.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I feel like some of our core characters are about to do some more drugs. That's what I'm hearing.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
No. It is the purest love you will ever know. If you, like Rick, opened your heart and opened yourself to the possibility of joy.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
That they're discerning and strategic and smart.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
That was a gorgeous opening to the episode. Oh, the dream. A very trippy, druggie, delusional, dreamy episode. I loved it.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Twice a week, yeah. Wow. You've officially put us in the Chris Ryan, the watch zone.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Is Rick going on the yacht, or is he going to Bangkok? He says he's going to Bangkok. But he said that last episode, too. Will he delay the trip and go on the yacht?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
He invited the family. Incredible. We didn't. We didn't talk about everyone who has a boat. Yeah. Like Victoria's worried that they're trashy because they have a boat. Are they decent people? Like, yeah. They have a yacht. They're rich. Great stuff. Yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
But Rick almost like, I think he, yes, he has to go to Bangkok and start running the con. But if he delayed and went on the boat and the Ratliff family comes, the idea of Tim and Rick being in a confined space together when they hate each other so much.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Greg Gary.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Joey, Chelsea. Probably not Rick. Saxon, Lockie. Oh, yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
They got to do something with their time. Yeah. They got another bad time.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I, Halo is a ray of light in my life.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah, sure. And he'd bring it to me. He'd present it to me. Yeah. And I would say, good job, Baba.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
With like a shoe box?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Do you think that's what was happening in Belinda's villa? The Mysterious Sounds? You think it's a cat? I would be great to have a cat in the show.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I'd say probably.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Bill, underneath anger, there's always a sadness. That's what we learned from this episode and also what I know to be true when you talk about cats.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
It seemed like you were going to get one last year. It's not.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah. She has a cat.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah. When I get sick.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I can barely lean over to get a tissue. And Mike White comes up with season three of White Lotus.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I try to avoid that by not being around my colleagues when they're ill.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I love the little, like, pill holster. The little piece of luggage just for the pills.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Oh, man. A lot of I went away from.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Disaster.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I don't know. That is not a man who is prepared to face the, forget like chipping away, the shattering of his legacy and his standing. And when he was telling Saxon, we got to, you know, just kind of trying to distract his family, right? With the whole phone gambit. Like we got to like nurture these things in ourselves so that we have something else to give.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
He is confronting the fact that that is not, he doesn't feel that that is the case about his life. He is not prepared to go to jail.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I feel like the pills in this episode were a gateway to that for Tim.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Because the second pill he took, he didn't tell Victoria he took it. She's like, do you want another one? He's like, no, I don't. I don't do drugs. But he had just gone and taken one. So he's already secretly consuming. He's trying to avoid having to confront the decimation of his life.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Or his dead body. Boy, that would be a hot bummer. That would be really sad.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I'm glad you're hitting the vengeance note because he's a couple gravely voice register shifts away from just being Robert Pattinson's Batman in this episode. Yeah. Like, talking about his pursuit of adventure.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I mean, they're just doing down to the dear Mr. Sawyer letter here with the origin.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Oh, yeah.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Oh. Oh, I was thrilled and eager.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
We got Chelsea and Rick at the end of the last episode. That did not leave the impression on you that it left a...
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
It was a suckle. It was more than a lick. It was a full suckle.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
It was very sweet. Not just the moment at the doorstep with the two of them, but it was very brief in one of the montages. I don't know what the treatment is called. Cradle the baby. Cradling her in the water. Yeah. I have never felt so sued.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I still want the feet one. Oh, yeah. That's a little about the wellness life.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
Yeah. Well, we got to see what it was like when you're not vibing with the session. Lockie's sitting there. Right. Defensive. People pleaser?
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I hear you're a douche.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
I could see her like charging Saxon for sex and it being such an ego thing. wound for him.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
He sniffed it out. That makes me nervous for Saxon.
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‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 3: The Unraveling of Tim Ratliff
The fact that... Greg slash Gary ain't known. Do you think he's going to kill Belinda and Saxon? I hope Belinda is okay. I just think everybody feels like they're in peril right now.