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Do I Know You? (A Hidden Brain-Revisionist History special on facial recognition)

Mon, 26 May 2025

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Have you ever encountered someone who clearly knows you, but you have no idea who they are? This week, we feature a classic Hidden Brain episode about people on opposite ends of the facial recognition spectrum. Then, in the second part of the show, we bring you another perspective on facial recognition from the Revisionist History podcast. Host Malcolm Gladwell struggles with identifying faces, while producer Lucie Sullivan is exceptional at it.Hidden Brain is about to kickoff a nationwide tour! Join Shankar as he shares seven key insights from the first decade of the show. To find out if we're coming to a city near you, and purchase tickets, go to https://hiddenbrain.org/tour/

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Chapter 1: What challenges do people face with facial recognition?

0.069 - 32.15 Shankar Vedantam

This is Hidden Brain. I'm Shankar Vedantam. If you're like me, you know this feeling. Maybe you're at a party or you're walking down the street, and suddenly, out of a sea of passing faces, one of them lights up, looking right at you. This person starts waving, says hello. This person is glad to see you. And you? You have no idea who you're looking at. Recognizing faces is a crucial skill.

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32.831 - 55.235 Shankar Vedantam

But although your mind is amazing at identifying your boyfriend or your child in a crowd, there are important limits to this ability. Some of us, like me, are extremely bad at it. Some of us are terrific. Today, we bring you a classic Hidden Brain episode about people on opposite ends of the facial recognition spectrum.

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56.096 - 78.048 Shankar Vedantam

We'll also explore how our ability to recognize faces has broad implications in our lives. And then, in the second part of today's show, we're going to bring you another look at facial recognition from the Revisionist History podcast. If you're unfamiliar with the show, Revisionist History is best-selling author Malcolm Gladwell's podcast about things overlooked and misunderstood.

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80.458 - 104.51 Shankar Vedantam

The show has covered everything from what Americans get wrong about guns to how English muffins get their signature nooks and crannies. It turns out that Malcolm, like me, struggles with recognizing faces. His producer, Lucy Sullivan, on the other hand, is exceptionally good at it. And Lucy wanted to find out what's going on, or isn't going on, in our brains when we see someone we know.

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120.738 - 128.523 Malcolm Gladwell

Revisionist History

137.574 - 142.537 Shankar Vedantam

We'll start with someone whose job requires her to be quick with faces. She's a cop.

143.217 - 147.199 Alison Wood Brooks

My name's Alison Young and I'm a police officer in the Metropolitan Police in London.

147.62 - 163.528 Shankar Vedantam

She started out several years ago working on response teams in East London. These are the cops who mostly just respond to 911 calls. Then, about three and a half years into that job, she and a bunch of her fellow officers were invited to take a series of tests at a university.

163.809 - 168.981 Alison Wood Brooks

You get given like three or four different faces. And you have to memorize those faces.

Chapter 2: What is the Super Recogniser Unit?

1623.641 - 1625.001 Malcolm Gladwell

He ghosts her.

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1625.302 - 1645.473 Unknown

He ghosts her, like completely. She was like, we made eye contact. I was like, maybe he didn't see me, but no, he saw me. Our eyes locked. I went to wave. He turned around. So now Missy's like, what is going on here? Like, she had just met his wife a couple days before, and she's like, maybe the wife wasn't comfortable with, like, or maybe she's thinking something's going on.

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1646.994 - 1650.676 Unknown

Maybe I said something weird to him. Like, she's really, like, spinning her wheels.

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1650.696 - 1651.717 Malcolm Gladwell

She's reeling. She's reeling.

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1651.917 - 1673.699 Unknown

And I went back the next day, sat in the back, and the same thing happened, where he walks by, sort of sees me... seemingly like we make eye contact. And this time I think I probably was a little bit more reserved because of what had happened the day before. And he turns around and walks the other way again. And now I'm like, okay, I think I might've said something that offended him.

1677.355 - 1691.95 Malcolm Gladwell

My name is Malcolm Gladwell. You're listening to revisionist history, my podcast about things overlooked and misunderstood. And since we're talking about misunderstandings, whatever you think is going on in this story right now, I promise you, you've got it wrong.

1707.458 - 1709.74 Unknown

So Missy is obviously super bummed about this.

1710.401 - 1725.036 Unknown

You know, I mean, listen, I've been with my husband for a long time, so I haven't been like on the dating scene. But it definitely had an equivalent like you put yourself out there and you are, you know, think that you're connecting with someone, but they're not experiencing that same thing.

1725.686 - 1742.063 Unknown

She considered trying to find a new place to work, but like I said, the coffee shop is just too good. And so after a few days, she decides, you know what, I'm just going to go back. I'm going to ignore the weirdness. And this time their usual spot in the front is open. So she sits down and then right on cue, JJ walks in.

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