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Healing + Human Potential

The Hidden Reason You Fall for People Who Hurt You | Helen Hunt & Harville Hendrix | EP 76

Tue, 18 Feb 2025

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Have you ever wondered why we are drawn to people who challenge us the most?   In this episode, I sit down with Harville and Helen Hendricks, the minds behind Imago Relationship Therapy, to explore why we unconsciously attract partners who reflect our childhood wounds. We dive into how early experiences shape our relationships, why conflict is not the problem but an opportunity, and how we can create safety and connection instead of distance and frustration.   We talk about how the brain is wired for survival, why negativity is the biggest relationship killer, and how structured dialogue can transform the way we connect. Harville and Helen share practical tools to move from blame to understanding, helping us see our differences as a strength, not a weakness. Whether you're single, in a relationship, or struggling to communicate, this episode will shift how you see love and connection.   Stick around for a conversation that challenges common myths about relationships and offers real solutions to build deeper intimacy. Plus, we discuss their new project that ensures their work will live on for future generations. If you've ever felt stuck in a relationship pattern, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.   === GUEST LINKS  Instagram: @harvilleandhelen Website: harvilleandhelen.com Taplink: https://taplink.cc/harvilleandhelen === Have you watched our previous episode with my husband, Emilio? Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/bjHpRB-z0n0?si=aE-0dyDq5F40hge9 ==== Alyssa Nobriga International, LLC - Disclaimer This podcast is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or any other qualified professional. We shall in no event be held liable to any party for any reason arising directly or indirectly for the use or interpretation of the information presented in this video. Copyright 2023, Alyssa Nobriga International, LLC - All rights reserved.  === Website: alyssanobriga.com Instagram: @alyssanobriga  TikTok - @alyssanobriga Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6b5s2xbA2d3pETSvYBZ9YR  Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/healing-human-potential/id1705626495

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Chapter 1: Why do we choose partners who reflect our childhood wounds?

0.189 - 21.771 Harville Hendrix

If you go with your heart, nature is going to pick the one who's going to cause you the most problems. It pairs the people who need to be paired to repair what was wounded and injured in childhood. In the relationship with caretakers, one parent is usually engaged, but in a controlling way, and the other parent is disengaged in a kind of neglectful way.

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21.931 - 40.724 Harville Hendrix

The child has only one need, to be seen and heard and valued. So when you grow up, you still have that need. When you get to partner selection, you'll pick the person who's similar to the one who was most painful in your childhood. The brain is still looking for survivals. And it says the deepest need not met was with the controlling person.

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You need to find somebody to get the need met from a controlling person, which of course you marry that person, you fall in love with them and they don't meet the need. So now they become a problem. Your partner is not your problem. You are your problem. If you take responsibility and you ask the question, this is a fundamental question. Am I safe for my partner?

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60.848 - 79.418 Harville Hendrix

That's very different from is Helen safe for me? Fundamentally and simple marriage, is about survival. And if you create predictable safety, you can have a great marriage. If you have negativity, you're not going to have a great marriage, because the brain's going to keep looking for love in all the wrong places, and it's not going to find it there.

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80.178 - 95.128 Alyssa Nobriga

Welcome back to the Healing and Human Potential podcast, where today we're going to be talking about why do we attract partners who mirror the childhood wounds that we had. The creators of this theory that has revolutionized relationships since the 80s are here on the podcast today.

95.568 - 113.215 Alyssa Nobriga

They're also going to be sharing about how to turn conflict into connection and what some of the biggest destroyers are that silently ruin relationships and what you can do differently because of it. So I first discovered Harville Hendricks and Helen Hunt on Oprah. They are the founders of Imago Psychotherapy. I got trained in it.

113.555 - 132.779 Alyssa Nobriga

I love this body of work, and it shares practical ways that you can use the Imago dialogue to rebuild trust, to create connection, to move through any difficult relational conversations, whether it be with your kids, whether it be with your partner, your coworkers. It's a really beautiful framework that we're going to dive in today. It is a good one. Enjoy.

133.479 - 152.953 Alyssa Nobriga

Well, first off, I'm just so grateful to have you two. And I want to share some of my story about how I discovered the power of your work. And so I became a licensed psychotherapist and I first discovered your work. I had actually found somebody that was an Imago therapist, your approach, because it was so important to me and it was so transformative.

153.513 - 170.95 Alyssa Nobriga

I first found your work when you were on Oprah. I think you guys were on Oprah for a few times. And I was like, this is going to change the game for people relationally. I didn't have any good models. I really wanted to learn how to do relationships in a new way. And so I could feel the power of the work that you did when I first learned about it.

Chapter 2: How does the Imago Relationship Therapy help transform conflict into connection?

1540.055 - 1565.674 Harville Hendrix

four times a week and you want it one time a week maybe three or two or something like that make compromises none of that ever worked but it was but it was the content of the discipline i was teaching that at the graduate level in a university and i did not know that it was pointless there was a like 35% success rate. And that was with people who didn't have difficult marriages.

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1566.135 - 1585.074 Harville Hendrix

They did need to kind of, you know, think a little bit better and communicate a little better and they would do better, but they didn't have a big deep wound and they weren't dealing with what, you know, about 95% of couples deal with. So we had to move out of that into it occurred to me one day while listening to them.

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1585.634 - 1615.235 Harville Hendrix

Couples is, you know, the problem here is that whenever George talks to Mary, he's got this authoritarian tone and like he knows everything. And then she kind of she adapted in childhood to this over controlling father. So she kind of slumbers down and then becomes fussy and or quiet. So the way he's talking to her is impacting her at the body level.

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1616.056 - 1638.049 Harville Hendrix

So I began to change that as a result of discovering that that was true with Helen and me. In 1979, Helen and I had started dating. No, it was in 77 we started dating and ran into this, that we had fights. I mean, we were really a polarity, that we had fights on the first date.

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1638.349 - 1669.95 Helen Hunt

Yeah, Harville, our first date, he took me to this real expensive restaurant. Wow. I left and I said, Harville, I like barbecue chicken, Dickie's, and next time you don't have to take me to an expensive restaurant. I like Kentucky Fried Chicken and Dickie's Barbecue, 7-Eleven hot dogs. And Harville started yelling at me. How dare you say that? And then I took him on a date. Well, come on.

1670.31 - 1685.376 Harville Hendrix

She is a wealthy Dallas socialite. And I grew up on a subsistence farm in South Georgia. And I'm dating this person who is out of my social and economic class. Am I going to take her to a cafe?

1687.012 - 1717.052 Helen Hunt

But I've never met anyone that was interested in, like, stages of relationship. I had heard his lecture. Three stages, and he gave a lecture in a Unitarian church. The garage is filled with cars on Sunday, and on Saturday, they have speakers come. And there were 20 of us. A friend of mine said, hey, a guy is going to talk about Apparently something about marriage and you want to come with me.

1717.072 - 1724.941 Helen Hunt

And I went and there was Harville stage one, stage two, stage three. And so we started dating.

1725.041 - 1739.873 Harville Hendrix

But I was trying to impress you. And I didn't think I could impress you by taking you to Kentucky Fried Chicken. I know. That would just not work. I mean, I couldn't even imagine. But you had already impressed me.

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