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Huge protests in Greece over train crash justice

Fri, 28 Feb 2025

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Greeks hold mass protests demanding justice after train crash two years ago which killed 57 people. Also: Mexico's view on US tariffs, and the desperate efforts to flee the fighting in the DR Congo.

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Chapter 1: Why are there protests in Greece over a train crash?

130.345 - 150.539 Charles Havilland

The crowd say they want justice for the 57 people who were killed when a passenger service collided with a freight train near the Tempe Gorge in 2023. A report published on Thursday found the crash was caused by human error, poor maintenance and inadequate staffing. And protesters like these two are venting their anger.

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Chapter 2: What are the findings of the Greek train crash report?

153.456 - 164.102 Narrator

Ich kam hier für Gerechtigkeit, um endlich herauszufinden, warum so viele junge Menschen verloren wurden. Um endlich herauszufinden, warum es Accidents gibt, die die Leben jeden Tag riskieren.

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164.122 - 169.366 Protester

Damals waren es diese Kinder, aber es könnte mein eigenes Kind gewesen sein.

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180.52 - 184.802 Charles Havilland

I heard more from our reporter in Athens, Helena Smith.

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184.842 - 209.374 Helena Smith

We've seen extraordinary scenes here in Athens today. First of all, an incredible demonstration in the square that is the site of the Greek Parliament. Tens of thousands of people gathered there. In a first, they weren't chanting themselves hoarse. They were silent, most bending their heads in honour of the dead.

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Chapter 3: How are Ukraine's international relations evolving?

209.847 - 235.266 Helena Smith

This is the anniversary, the second anniversary of the country's worst ever rail disaster that saw 57 mostly young students die in an accident that many in Greece believe was entirely preventable and is down to systemic failures, the failure of the state to provide even basic services like a modern railway system.

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235.846 - 240.588 Charles Havilland

You mentioned that it's been silent and mournful, but there's also been violence.

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240.628 - 302.664 Helena Smith

That's absolutely right. Barely had the relatives of the victims finished addressing the crowds when clashes erupted across the square in what appears to have been a very well-coordinated plan to disrupt an otherwise peaceful protest with black But much of Central Athens has been turned into a war zone, pitch battle between riot police and these rock lobbying youths.

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302.704 - 318.741 Helena Smith

There have been extraordinary scenes even around the Greek Parliament today. The report on Thursday, which suggested there are still a lot of failures, haven't been rectified.

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318.781 - 326.649 Charles Havilland

Have the authorities given any indication that they are going to act on this and perhaps assuage some of the protesters' concerns?

327.671 - 343.637 Helena Smith

Well, the government has said that it will act on this, that its plan is to create a modern railway system, but it's been very slow. What has stoked so much of this public outrage here in Greece is this sense of a government cover-up and that

344.312 - 367.292 Helena Smith

In the days after the state moved very, very quickly to clean up the scene of the tragedy, removing what could have been very vital evidence, including, if you can believe it, human remains from the site of the crash by gravelling and cementing it over. None of that has helped assuage this public sense.

367.654 - 405.849 Charles Havilland

dass sie irgendwie nicht der Wahrheit gesagt werden. but with no American security guarantees for Ukraine in place. Lisa Jasko, an MP from the Ukrainian President's Servant of the People Party, is nevertheless optimistic.

406.69 - 434.153 Lisa Jasko

It looks like the deal looks not bad and quite good for Ukraine, not only for the economic interest in general, but also for the future. Because for us it is very important that hopefully one day the war is over, that there will be different projects, different reconstruction projects that will help to restore our land, our society in Spain. But is her optimism misplaced?

Chapter 4: What is the controversy surrounding AI-generated content?

434.213 - 439.096 Lisa Jasko

Our Ukraine-cast co-presenter Vitaly Shevchenko told me more.

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451.625 - 471.408 Vitaly Shevchenko

At the moment we don't really know. Whatever versions of that deal have been leaked to the press, they don't really say anything about what Ukraine is getting in exchange for... Well, signing off a huge chunk of its mineral wealth.

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471.468 - 496.965 Vitaly Shevchenko

And also let's not forget that this isn't really a straightforward business transaction or an investment agreement, because we are talking about a country that is fighting for its survival, literally. So when people talk about reconstruction and anything that might happen in the future, the big question is, What happens before we get to that point?

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497.005 - 513.236 Vitaly Shevchenko

And this is what Volodymyr Zelensky really, really wants. Security guarantees that will ensure that Ukraine quite simply survives until the point when it can talk about investment and reconstruction and rebuilding the country once this war is over.

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513.296 - 522.502 Charles Havilland

Ukraine's survival is very much on everyone's mind at the moment. Donald Trump seems at least to have changed his mind for the moment over Volodymyr Zelensky. Do you think this will help Ukraine?

Chapter 5: Why is Shiori Ito's documentary significant?

522.822 - 544.427 Vitaly Shevchenko

It's a good sign as far as Ukraine is concerned, going from calling Zelensky a dictator to saying, I can't believe I said that and he is Ukraine's best president. That's what Donald Trump said yesterday. But there's been so much contradiction and so many things that are at odds with the facts as we know them in what Donald Trump has said that

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544.767 - 563.883 Vitaly Shevchenko

Many people are actually saying, well, don't really listen to what he's saying. Keep an eye on what he's doing. And yesterday he extended some of America's sanctions, imposing Russia for another year. So today is... Vitaly Shevchenko

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593.74 - 613.729 Charles Havilland

Across Europe, at least 25 people have been arrested after police targeted the distribution of artificial intelligence-generated images of child sexual exploitation. Europol, the EU's law enforcement agency, put out a statement on Friday saying they'd been supported by authorities in 19 countries.

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613.789 - 619.092 Charles Havilland

I heard more from Anna Holligan, our correspondent based in The Hague, where Europol is headquartered.

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619.984 - 638.642 Anna Holligan

This is a whole new realm in AI and cybercrime. This is one of the first cases involving AI-generated child sexual abuse materials. So we've just had details from Europol. This is an operation that has been going on over the last few days. But in fact, the main suspect, who is Danish national, he was arrested last November.

Chapter 6: How has the film 'Black Box Diaries' been received internationally?

639.503 - 660.616 Anna Holligan

He's accused of hosting an online platform where he distributed, he created, produced these AI-generated images, then sold them through social media. So users from all over the world were able to make a symbolic payment online. get a password and then access this platform to watch children essentially being abused.

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660.676 - 679.205 Anna Holligan

And as this technology is becoming more and more sophisticated, it's increasingly difficult for the authorities to differentiate between those AI-generated images and real world victims. So that's one of the front lines now in terms of Europol's operations.

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679.225 - 681.947 Charles Havilland

There's been one main suspect in this case, is that right?

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682.722 - 703.106 Anna Holligan

Genau, ja. Also das war der dänische National. Aber insgesamt haben sie 273 Verbrecher identifiziert. Das ist eine Operation, die mit dem Namen Cumberland genannt wird. Und wenn ich die Liste, die von Europol veröffentlicht wurde, schaue, wie viele Autoritäten involviert sind. Es gibt einfach eine Idee, wie breit dieses Problem ist.

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703.126 - 727.297 Anna Holligan

Also aus Australien, Österreich, Belgien, Bosnien, der Tschechischen Republik, Dänemark, Finnland, Frankreich, Deutschland, Ungarn, direkt über Europa. Vielen Dank. Anna Holligan

752.902 - 777.983 Charles Havilland

A film that charts a rape case filed by its director in 2015 is in the running for best documentary feature film at the Oscars on Sunday. That is despite it not having been shown in Japan, the home country of the director Shiori Ito. Black Box Diaries has however been screened in more than 50 other nations. Shaima Khalil met Miss Ito in Paris as she was promoting her movie.

778.783 - 785.287 Shiori Ito

I have a chance to talk about what happened to me. Ich habe Angst, aber ich will nur die Wahrheit erzählen.

799.875 - 817.565 Shaima Khalil

In der opening scene of her documentary Black Box Diaries, Shiori is speaking to the camera a few days before she holds a press conference. Something, she tells me, her family was against.

819.967 - 833.974 Protester

Er ist nicht besonders strikt. Er ist ziemlich liberal. Aber dann kam die erste Reaktion, als ich ihm sagte, dass ich im Publikum gehen will. Er sagte, deine Leben werden in vielen Fällen gefährlich sein. Meine Karriere, aber besonders als Frau.

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