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Fest und Flauschig, der große Sonntags-, Montags- oder Dienstagspodcast. An diesen Tagen hört man uns am liebsten, hat eine große Nachfrage, Umfrage ergeben. Mein Name ist Olli Schulz, vielleicht kennen mich einige noch. Ja, und mir zugeschaltet, mein lieber Kollege, der sich zurückgezogen hat, es ist ein Sabbatmonat für ihn, Janni Böhmermann. Hallo Jan, hörst du mich?
Ich grüße dich, mein lieber Oliver. Herzlich willkommen, liebe Zuhörerinnen und Zuhörer. Und wie ich das in meiner Fernsehsendung, vielleicht werden die einen oder anderen, die Sie gesehen haben, auch immer so gerne zu tun pflegen. Und alle dazwischen und außerhalb, ihr seid alle recht herzlich eingeladen, heute dabei zu sein bei einer ganz besonderen Ausgabe von Fest und Flauschig.
Denn ich befinde mich ausnahmsweise nicht in der Zivilisation. Ich befinde mich im wunderschönen Schwarzwald. Richtig tief in den Bergen habe ich mir hier so ein kleines Refugium organisiert. Ich habe hier selbst so eine Hütte gebaut, mitten im Wald.
When can we see that on YouTube? With the hut? Because I think that's the big thing you want to do. There's a video, there's always a guy who builds a hut in the forest for two years. Do you have that in mind too?
Yes, I have bivouacked for the last two years. During the construction period I have bivouacked. I have lived here under an all-plastic plan. And now, gradually, where the heating is running, I can escape into a real house. That will soon be on my new YouTube channel. So I'm a little bit off today.
If it's a little bit delayed or it sounds different than usual, it's because, as I said, I'm staying in the Black Forest. Because that's also part of the truth. There are currently autumn holidays in North Rhine-Westphalia and I used the autumn holidays to go on vacation in Germany, the most beautiful country in the world.
I'm not going anywhere else, I'm going to Germany and I want to start with topic number one, because this time I actually drove several times over the German-French, German-Belgian and German-Luxembourg border this week. And I want to start with a short rant, so that you can start the pressure right away. What kind of shitty idea is that?
That they do this fucked up symbol politics and now when they drive in, suddenly everyone is in control, dude. Incredibly long traffic jams on the autobahn, on every fucking crossing of the border, on the autobahns, the people are standing, when they come to Germany, they are woken up and stopped by some disinterested, bored policemen and policemen and checked if they are foreigners.
What kind of shit is that, Nancy Faeser? What kind of fucking shit, what is that supposed to be? Do you know what I did? Because I fucked it up so much. I just drove over the border crossings on the country roads. Because at some point I checked that the bulls are only on the motorways anyway, I just had to zigzag in the border. I drove down south of Luxembourg, France.
I didn't drive back and forth here and there, because I was so old. Again, awesome. I wanted to look at the Westwall. The Westwall? The Westwall, man. The Westwall. I wanted to look at the old bunkers. You always have to drive back and forth at the border. And then I always drove over the motorway at the beginning, because of course it was faster according to Google Maps.
And at some point I was so annoyed, because I was kicked out three times, like everyone else. They put up pavilions, party pavilions on the motorway and everyone winks out and looks into the cars. Because Nancy Faeser somehow ... I wanted to win the Brandenburg election. Is the shit still there, man? And then I found out that there are zeroes on the country roads.
There is no one, no one is up for it. They are only on the autobahn for the stupid ones. Then I drove over the country road nicely. Hey, what a shit, man. Didn't you ever drive over the Polish border or the Danish border in the last few weeks?
No. No, I didn't. I only traveled within Germany. Last weekend was also the beginning of holidays here in Berlin. And I had to get on the train on Friday because I had to go to Essen, because I was invited to a festival, a small songwriter festival, by my beloved songwriter colleague Stefan Stoppock. And there I had to go to the overfilled train on Friday.
Jan, it was the absolute hell for me to sit in this train and go to Essen. And then also, I was lucky, there was only one train connection where you could book seats for. And then I got one, got in, looked for my wagon and then a much older woman than me sits on my seat. And now I'm thinking about what I did. I went there and said, excuse me, this is my place. Of course not.
I'm with an acoustic guitar, with a hanging bag. Then somehow I stood in line for two hours until this woman got pregnant and had to get out at some point. But that's how it is. And then I thought about it while I was standing there. Actually, I'm not that much younger. I only think of myself. She was probably in her early 60s and I'm 51 now. So I would have had a good right to ask for my place.
Because the people probably thought, well, they're about the same age as the two. But in my feeling I'm still the professional teenager and didn't dare and stood there and was mega annoyed. So really an absolute nightmare.
Yes, and if you ate a little bit, then you look like you're in your seventh month or something. Then you would have to vacate the place for several reasons. I also took the train last week, because I thought I would use the holidays to go to my old home in Bremen, because it's Freimarkt in Bremen.
That's the big people's festival, that's actually the important people's festival in northern Germany. So the Hamburg Cathedral, which has often been thematized here in this podcast, because Olli Schulz, of course, that's your favorite place to rummage. You used to be often at the Hamburg Cathedral.
The right place in Bremen, the largest market in northern Germany, is of course the Bremer Freimarkt. And then I drove there for the first time in a long time. And I have to say, I was positively surprised, on the one hand, by the quality of the food. I liked that very much. For the first time in 25 years I was in the Rotor again. Do you know what Rotor is?
And the thing where you're pressed against the wall, which turns so fast. I've never been in there, you always have it on such a bad screen, you could look at it, what's hanging outside on the Rotor.
But I myself have never visited the Rotor. This time, for the first time, I used the option to solve a card, but only as a spectator to go in there. And I just thought, oh no, come on, I just ate seven raisins. and two schmaltzkuchen and a horse sausage. Also awesome, right? Try to be a vegetarian.
The first thing I see on the free market is the Ross bratwurst shop on the left, where you can get three fatty mini horse sausages with spicy mustard. Oh no, I can't do that anymore. But I thought, oh come on, and it really tasted like earlier, really child-like backlash. And then I stopped being a vegetarian for horse sausages, which didn't work out at all in the circle of my companions.
They all thought it was shit, but I was like, sorry, Isha Freimarkt, I said. Which is a bit like the Bremer Pendant to Köln Alav. Isha Freimarkt is the fifth anniversary in Bremen. What I really noticed is that there has been a lot of innovation in the area of carousels. So the craziest thing when I was on the flea market last time was Commander.
That's the breakdancer who... I know, it's all in Hamburg. But there are things in the meantime, man, where you stand in front of it and think, man, that's... Are you serious that you really go in there? Then you notice, you get a little older, you just get a little older. But I don't even know if I would have gone in there with 22.
I don't even know if I would have gone in there with 22. I've always been a shithead. There are a few things. The highest of the feelings is for me a great roller coaster. I don't want that anymore. Roller coaster, preferably with looping. And that's the sad thing. For years I've been missing a roller coaster at the Hamburg Cathedral. There's always only the Wilde Maus XXL.
But that was also with us. Wilde Maus XXL was on the free market and I stood in front of it and thought, come on, honestly, Wilde Maus XXL is already too blatant for me. It's huge, man. That's not Wilde Maus anymore.
Yes, but it's still not that wild. I always do Wild Mouse XXL. It sounds like a series on RTL. Wild Mouse XXL with Daniela Katzenberger. With the Shopping Queen or something like that. Wild Mouse XXL, yes, I definitely do that. I think Wild Mouse XXL should also appear in the title of today's show. I already have a good feeling about that, Jan.
First of all, the Gläserne Podcast. We are further apart from each other today than usual. You might hear that a little bit. Today is the 25th of October and the day of the exhibition is the 27th of October. Behind me is a hot week. I was invited, oh god, I don't know if I can tell you this, I was invited to the Bavarian Fernsehpreis.
Again one of those events from which I didn't know that there was an invitation at all. And that was an invitation that was with great energy. People have been calling us because we were supposed to be sent out for this show. So my team and I, let's watch you again. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
But that was this week and I wasn't just on vacation, I also had to do something professionally. And I didn't manage to go there. I didn't manage it and I honestly didn't... I was a little bit, when I read that Markus Söder would also be there. And then I thought, oh, selfie trap, Markus Söder, does it have to be? I didn't feel the energy for it and had a lot to do. And now the following happened.
On the day of the event, that was last Wednesday, I suddenly got an SMS from our dear friend Klaas. Who said, hey Jan, I'm so sorry, I can't come today, I'm sorry, I would have liked to have done it. And I was like, huh? Worum geht's? Was ist los? Was ist los?
Und dann hat wohl, und da will ich jetzt niemandem zu nahe treten, aber da gab es wohl ein, ich sag mal, ein doch ganz pikantes, ich weiß nicht, ich nenn's mal Missverständnis, um da diplomatisch zu bleiben. Da wurde der liebe Kollege Klaas angefragt, ohne mein Wissen, aber im Glauben, dass ich mir das wünschen würde, dass er da für diesen Preis irgendeine Rede hält oder sowas.
Ich wusste davon aber gar nichts. Klaas dachte aber, ich würde mir das wünschen, dass er But I myself wasn't even able to go there at all. And then it was a mega... And then you both weren't there. Then we both weren't there. But you were there. I wasn't there, of course I wasn't there. But what are you doing there?
Because I kind of apologized for Klaas being bullied at all and that he was so incredibly sorry and hurt because he thought that I would want him to go there. Many don't even know that you are just bitter arch rivals.
Yeah, and then from Arndt Zeigler, yesterday morning I was like, hey Jan, I'd love to be there, I'm sorry, after that, Arndt also thought I had to, I have no one, so I would never do it, it would be really uncomfortable for me, after that, hey, there's some price, do you feel like reading something for me?
Never ever, man, if there are more people out there who have been asked, I really don't know anything, I have... I'm so sorry. And then I had to apologize to Klaas for half an hour. I didn't know that at all. It's really, really unpleasant. And I'm sorry, I would have loved to have been there, but I just didn't have the energy. I wasn't there. I didn't get it. It shouldn't have been there.
There was definitely a nice event there, they ate pretzels and stuff. Munich always worth a trip. But I didn't make it. But mega unpleasant. Especially how Klaas and I first stumbled for half an hour, because everyone else probably thought he was lying. I really said, Klaas, I swear to you on everything, I didn't know anything. It wasn't a prank either.
Because we are, that's a funny relationship, because we are also in such a half prank relationship. You know, when you have a funny action, where you can pull the underpants into the ass of the other person, then the opportunity is still always welcome. But I'm sorry.
Maybe you want to go to Joko's place and do another prank show with Klaas. And Joko has so many other things to do. He does three podcasts, he has four shows on ProSieben. But that you go with Klaas in this prank direction again, how would that be?
I've been saying for years that you two want to do something together again. Olli, I'm honest, I'm at an age where I can't imagine changing partners. I'm very happy. I am very happy that we have such an inalienable partnership, that we are only on one side.
We fucked up, we can't get away from each other anymore.
Yes, wild mouse XXL, fucked up. But we already had fucking in the title last week. I wouldn't overstatement that.
We can't do that twice, definitely not. We shouldn't do that twice. But that's definitely, I'm glad, you also have another prize, I somehow have on Instagram, a blue panda or something. That's the blue panda. Blaue Panther, and I have all my... The Blaue Panther is the Bavarian... Isn't that just called Bavarian film or TV award or something?
The Blaue Panther, that sounds a bit like a senior event, like the Grey Wolves and the Blaue Panthers meet somehow in the gym and fight to see who has more energy now. That sounds like a strange gender disease that was going around in the First World War.
They have... Blaue Panthers... Blaue Panthers... They bombed so much in the trenches that now all of them have Blaue Panthers. That's exactly the impression the head of a panther
Yes, but in the context of this award ceremony, there was probably also, I found out afterwards, the great, very admired cabaretist Dieter Nuhr received the honor prize, the Bavarian Cabaret Prize, and that was awarded by the Prime Minister of the Free State by Markus Söder, Dr. Markus Söder he is probably, or even Dr. Dr. Dr.
And then I ask myself, what kind of sign is that as a cabaretist for your own resistance or credibility in the cabaret environment, if you win such an honorary prize from the Prime Minister? Is one then a state cabaretist or is one then a punker? I don't know, so how do you see yourself when you get such an honorary prize from the Prime Minister? Is that even something desirable?
I ask you now as an indie musician.
Since I'm not working in the satire sector, I can't say that. I'm happy about every price that is thought of. I would just take it and try to auction it on Ebay. Like Dieter Nuhr probably does in a few years. I have no idea. But you are on the road in the service of the people and the public legal work is also in the service of the people. That's why it might be okay.
And Dieter Nuhr has something to do in the next two years, to make a contract extension in ARD with his show. What is the drug? Exactly. You don't do it any other way either. You would never cancel the Blue Panther award, would you? Or take away the show somehow.
Yes, I don't know. Normally there are awards that are called the awards of death. If you get them, you are relatively safe away from the window. So there are very noble things where not everyone shits on it. It doesn't matter. Come on, it doesn't matter. Let's talk a little bit about private things again.
I can tell you a little bit about my trip last weekend. I wasn't quite finished yet. I went to Dortmund, to Essen, and the train was completely full, I just told you. I was really happy. On the evening, on Saturday, there was the concert. Friday there was supposed to be a big dinner with all the artists that I invited to Stobbock.
Katharina Frank was there, for example, who I got to know for the first time. Now I ask you, do you know which band Katharina Frank used to sing?
Isn't she a super nanny, Katharina Frank? No, it's Katharina Saalfrank.
Katharina Frank had a really big hit in the 80s called Blueprint and her band was called The Rainbirds. And on the bass was Rod Gonzales, who played for the doctors. Yes, but he came later. He didn't play any importance on the relevant records.
In any case, Katharina Frank... What was that? With such a cancel undertone? He didn't play a role in the relevant records. Isn't he in a video, in Blueprint, isn't he in the video too, Rod Gonzalez? Maybe he's in the video too, no idea.
In any case, okay. You don't talk about dead boxers. Let's continue with the story. Then the train tells me, after I got my seat and the old lady got out and I was allowed to sit for another hour. Dieser Zug fährt nicht weiter bis nach Essen, sondern über Pferdessen und Gelsenkirchen auch. Bitte jetzt aussteigen!"
Und dann bin ich in Dortmund, am Freitagabend stehe ich da mit meiner Gitarre und Dortmund, das Spiel ist gerade zu Ende. Der gesamte Bahnhof voll mit einer Hundertschaft Polizei und mit den Dortmundfests. Es herrschte wirklich eine unangenehme Stimmung und ich dachte, was machst du jetzt?
Wollte mich da durchkämpfen und wollte zum Taxistand und dann mit dem Taxi nach Essen zu fahren, was auch mindestens eine halbe Stunde Fahrt gewesen wäre. But then I saw that the regional train also goes to Essen. I got in there, which was also completely overcrowded. I arrived in Essen much too late on Friday evening. And then I was in a hotel that chose us the stopwalk.
And then I thought, oh, now drink a gin and tonic. After this trip I would have liked it. I looked at the clock, quarter to eleven. If you are in Hamburg in any hotel, in any hotel bar or even in Berlin, Do you get a gin and tonic somewhere in the middle of nowhere? Then I ask the woman in the reception, is there anything else to drink?
And then she says to me, I've never heard that before, of course, our bar is open 24 hours. What? What? 24 hours? And she says, yes, yes, we have a barman there for 24 hours and you can drink a gin and tonic with us at any time. And then I thought, man, there's only such a thing in Essen. And then Stoppock says to me, yes, yes, many things. And then I want to ask you if it doesn't look like that.
He says to me, the best Italian he knows, he's in Ruhrpott. He's not in Berlin, he's not in Hamburg or anything. And then he also talked about Bremen. And the best Greek I know, he's in Bremen. He's also not in Hamburg or anything.
And now I ask you, can it really be that this over-offering in these big million cities ensures that everything is so polluted and that you really, if you want to eat well, then you go out into the country or in a small town. And I think there's something to it, Jan.
There's a lot to it. This week, in Schwarzwald, I actually had this conversation in my private area. Because if the people drive out here, first of all, it's a 20-minute drive over a very dark country road, where you have to expect every second that a deer will jump in front of the hood. And when you go to a restaurant, it has to be really worth it.
And this week I was in three restaurants and they all looked great from the outside. There was no one who was tattooed with black rubber gloves behind an open kitchen. It was all pretty neat. Where you only had to speak English, even though he was German. We're getting into an age where we can gradually understand the Jens Spahn takes from 1997. Berlin, they're all just speaking English.
No, but I think that if you go out here, for example, I don't want to say exactly to not bring the tourism industry together here in my little town, the next largest district here, there's a cinema in this next largest district and I was there this week too and saw your afternoon show. With my private area.
I have to tell you, in the cinemas, in which I was always in Cologne and Berlin, you had to get rid of the rats from the seats beforehand. I've never seen such a clean cinema. I think it was used as a surgical treatment hall during the week. That was so clean, dude. That was so blatant. That was so in order. The popcorn tasted so fresh. That was also done in a popcorn machine.
That's really disillusioning. When you just put it in the bag and think it's all freshly made. No. And I thought, that's only available in rural areas, that if there is a cinema, it was fought hard. There was a battle vote in the town council, whether a cinema would be bought or the Altenheim would be built.
And when the cinema is taken, all the energy is put in, because they know exactly, the vote was close. And if one or two votes break away, the cinema will be an Altenheim. That's still much closer to politics. And the restaurants are better, you're completely right. You're completely right. And hey, and what you really think, I mean, well, in Berlin I don't think so, you also need a car.
So if you, for example, when I was with you last time and then came from another city, I needed an hour, although on the map you thought you were there in 10 minutes, but it took an hour. In Berlin you also need a car. But in Cologne, for example, you don't need a car. But in the country, I don't even know how you do it. And at 20 o'clock no one is outside their own house anymore.
No, especially an e-bike doesn't help you that much in the country, because there are simply no bike paths on the road. To be honest, you have to have a helicopter or something like that. You have to be a rich Mongolian who moved abroad. But in fact it is so that you... And now I can jump on because it's an interesting topic. You know where I live now, right? I know where you live, yes.
I live in a so-called suburb of Berlin. And I noticed a long time ago, and I have to be a little private, that it is always the case when you see a new area, that there are actually a lot of people who greet you, even though you live there again and stuff.
And now I drove a taxi with a taxi driver the day before yesterday, and he had to take me across the city from us because I still don't have a car. And on the way back he said to me, yes, yes, I also live where you live. That's a coincidence, that's pretty nice. And then I said, but the people are not all cool who live here.
And then he says to me, the taxi driver, yes, so I've been living there for seven years and the first three years you really had to fight until the people accept you. And I'm a foreigner, he says. You can imagine how long that took again. So probably another year extra. So he said very cool, he lived here for a long time and his children go to school here too. We got along fantastically.
And then he said, It takes a while for people to accept you. And then I was sitting in the taxi, we were so quiet and we drove home to me. And then I thought about this statement, it takes so long for people to accept you. And then I recorded the conversation again and said, but aren't you also of the opinion that this is the most German thing ever?
If you go somewhere and people don't accept you because you're the new one, what's the problem with that? Shouldn't it be the case that a congregation or people who have been living there for a long time greet and welcome someone and say, hey, welcome to us, nice that you live here or something else? What's so great about keeping your mouth shut and not greeting people?
That's the most German and most unpleasant way of not wanting to accept people because they moved somewhere new. I'm really different there. If a new person moves in somewhere new, then I think, cool, new people here. But it's somehow anchored. I think a lot of listeners can understand this. You go somewhere and people don't greet you. And it takes years or something.
Because you have to be accepted first. And you have to see if you're really okay. I think that's the dumbest German way of not welcoming people. And that you don't greet them at first. So that they know, you're not accepted here yet.
How do you see that? I think greetings are rude if you don't do that. But I have to say, I'm always suspicious when people, when you go somewhere new, get in touch with you super quickly.
These are often not the relationships that last forever, but these are ... That doesn't mean that you have to ring right away with a bowl of bread and salt and say, welcome here or something, but just a greeting on the street is enough. And one guy saw me get in here. He came up to me and said, hello, I live five houses away and gave me his hand. I was so happy about it. That was the only thing.
So not because people can't get rid of me now. That's always the case. I've talked to friends about it. Even in Pinneberg, in Hamburg or somewhere else, you're first accepted when you've been seen in the supermarket for a long time. Or people know you then, if at all, when they greet you. But I think that's really a... This is one of the unpleasant German ways to greet people.
When you look at someone's face and say, hello, good afternoon, and he looks at you like that, it's really German, I think, and they look at you and there's no irritation in your face and go on like that. But they saw that they were greeting you and wanted to say, no, no, you won't get a greeting back because I've lived here longer than you. That's so stupid.
I recently read that in Switzerland, our very similar neighbouring country, there is probably a right of citizenship. You get citizenship in some places only if the community, your neighbours, give you the okay, so you get voted off in some kind of basic democratic event. where it is decided whether you are allowed to be Swiss or Swiss.
And if you are a bit too punky or don't adapt to the village, then you won't get the citizenship. Because your neighbors say, yes, she somehow has no idea. It was the case of a Dutch woman who is a bit of a free spirit. She bought a house in Switzerland and was very engaged in the community. And some village residents and neighbors say,
thought then a bit too engaged, she may not be part of Switzerland now. And then they voted against it twice or so, that she gets Switzerland into Swiss citizenship. Also mega mean, so the whole thing then even institutionalize this not greeting, that exists then in Switzerland.
But in the end it worked out that this Dutch woman then became Swiss, but she really had to fight and somehow go the hard way in Switzerland. That's the absolute increase to it.
Yes, that's really the attitude. Maybe this will happen here in the suburb, too, that you then vote whether he is allowed to go there at all or so. Well, that's just by the way. Let me tell you a little more about my little trip to Essen. On Saturday evening was the concert. I got to know really nice people there, played a few songs with Stop Rock.
He played an incredibly good solo on my last record for the song, just like that. I took revenge. I sang a song by him called Nichts zu Sehen, please go on, there is nothing to see here, which I also put on the list today, on the Fidi and Brumsi list, Stockbrock and Uli Schulz, there is nothing to see here. It's been a few weeks old and we also shot a nice video for it in the former Molotov.
We play this concert and I prepare for it on Sunday, of course I sleep after the concert in this beautiful hotel. And I think, when I go back on Sunday, I look at the plan of the German Federal Railway and see that all trains are expected to have a high load. And I thought, shit, I don't want to experience all the shit again like on the ride. And then I see 6.22 am, the train, low load.
I thought, hey, before I give myself this whole shit again with my guitar and my bag, I'll drive back at 6.22 am with the first train from Essen to Berlin. In the morning? In the morning. Morgens, morgens, Sonntagmorgen, um 6.22 Uhr. Dann haben wir aber auch natürlich, weil es ein schöner Abend war, bis um halb drei in der Hotelbar gesessen und haben da Gin Tonic getrunken und geredet.
Es war wirklich schön, es hat mich wirklich gefreut auch die Leute da kennenzulernen und dann gehe ich aufs Zimmer und denke, wenn du dich jetzt hinlegst... And at 5 o'clock the alarm goes off or 5.30 o'clock, then you're so tired, then you really have eyes like a frog man. No, you have to hold on.
And then I started watching movies and really with effort and need, I fell into my eyes a few times, held on until 5.45, then got up, put on my clothes and was at 6.05 with a taxi at Essen Bahnhof. But it was Sunday morning, so Saturday night was just over and it was party folk.
On the S-Bahn, everything was full of people, all kinds of people who were looking for fun, couples who had a fight, full of truffles, people who threw shit into each other's ears. It was really crazy energy. And if you sometimes have the feeling, shit, I'm getting older, I don't belong to the youth anymore, which is the case with 51,
And you want to have the feeling that it's not that bad that you're not that young anymore. Then I get up at six in the morning at some station and look at the whole young crowd, like the wide drunk ones. Of course, they all have fun anyway. And you still think, oh no, I don't want to experience all that normally. This senseless fighting, such a couple. He's running after me.
He's like, Katrin, wait a minute. And so it was really all there. I wanted to film my cell phone a little bit, but I didn't do it because I'm not that funny anymore. But that was the feeling where I thought, oh, one luck. And then I immediately fell asleep on the train and woke up in Berlin-Spandau again. It was really incredible and I just slept through it.
That was definitely a hard journey back and forth. And before I forget, I'm going to put it on the Fidi and Bumsi list by Katharina Frank. She has hell of a guitarist with her. Her name is Werner. I forgot the last name, unfortunately. Dude, that was a good guitarist. They played the second song on her record, called Die Masse tobt. She's been making German-language music for four years now.
I think she has 500 listeners on Spotify, because it's a bit of her own art. Still, I thought it was very respectable, very great what she did. And that's why the song from Katharina Frank, Die Masse tobt, is on the Fidi & Brumsi list. And also from Ami Warning, that's a singer from Munich that I got to know. Ami Warning has already released her second or third record, I think.
She has a great voice, such a deep, voluminous voice. And I also put on the Fidi & Brumsi list from her song. And it says, Bin noch wach, wo bist du? From her current record. She herself says, we have talked about music for a long time, that she could not ban what she does live on the record. I would sign that. I think that's really great.
But if you look at it live, I think she's on tour a few times this year. There are concerts. There you really see a great artist. I can only recommend it to everyone to watch the songs or to watch them live. Army Warning and Katharina Frank I add to the list. When I'm already there, I'll just ask you now, do you also have something on our Fidi and Bumzi list?
My dear Olli, I'm really in the deep black forest here, you don't need any music, the only thing you need is the twitching of the birds. But I would like to take this opportunity to briefly use it and send a shout out back to all, I'll call them the shadow listeners of Fest und Flausch.
After our last episode, at least I got a lot of emails and direct messages on Instagram from people who work in offices and are not in customer contact, but who are the backbone of Germany. Me too. An anonymous listener wrote us the following. Hey Jan, hey Olli, thanks for your shout out to the Cataster office in the last Fest und Flauschig episode.
Just like you say, bike paths, hiking paths and everything else you use in your Google or whatever navi every day. That's exactly what I read. And I also have several such messages. Dear greetings to the people at the Katasteramt. Hey, the podcast for the Katasteramt. So I don't have any music wishes this week, because I only have the Vogelzwitsch. Hey, yesterday I saw a crane in the tree, man.
I thought cranes, they don't even sit in trees. He was sitting in the tree and the tree was... Hey!
Ey, you know what? There's no such thing. Sometimes I think we're living the same life. Yesterday I recorded a video of a crane in a tree that you can't even see, it's so hidden and you say, there's no such thing. Can I check the video now so you don't think I'm telling you some shit?
I thought about the tree. Ey, crane, I mean, the tree is completely overwhelmed. You're way too big of a bird for the tree. What are you? Why are you in the tree? Is that something like shortly before the outbreak of the Vesuvius in Pompeii? The cranes were sitting in the trees. That seemed so natural. What is the crane doing?
Was that a crane or a raia?
No, that was definitely not a crane. A huge bird, huge. Look what I just sent you.
A video from yesterday, which I recorded when I was walking with Juri yesterday. That can't be true. Why did you... I really saw a crane in the tree yesterday. Yes, and me too. And I just sent you this video. That can't be true. Exactly the same bird.
Exactly the same bird, right? Exactly the same bird.
Maybe it was the same thing. First time I fly to Vienna, then I fly over to Olli. Then the two of them have something to say again. But sometimes it's really uncanny. A lot of people think it's... I would post it on Sunday. That doesn't exist. That doesn't exist. Sometimes we are more connected than we are loved, right?
That's sweet, but yesterday I was really fascinated by this tree. I also saw how he flew in there. I thought, it can't be that such a fat bird ... Why are cranes in trees? Is that a new thing they're trying out? We have to ... We have to make ourselves more interesting for the world out there.
Do you know, at the time when we caught people's attention, we even managed to put the Lufthansa logo on it. In the meantime, nobody is interested in us anymore. Nobody is interested in us cranes anymore. We have to come up with something new. I have it at such a crane meeting. We're flying on trees now. Let's see if we notice. Zack, we ended up in Germany's largest podcast here with Olli and Jan.
Hey, good news. Our PR crew has worked. The crane is coming. From a Berlin crane agency.
Hey Jan, hey Olli, nice that you noticed that. I think our show is called Wilde Maus comma Blauer Panther und Kranich. Wilde Maus x Wilde Maus. Panther? Blauer Panther und Kranich. Das klingt dann, und Kranich im Baum. Das klingt wie so eine Vorabendserie, wie hierzu. Elefant, Maus und diese Sendungen, die da so laufen, wo dann so ein Zuwärter irgendwie...
how it is documented, how he somehow in Leipzig, of course only in front of the camera, scratches the elephants and the like.
Wild mouse, blue panther and crane in the tree, mega cool. Tomorrow an ARD editor will call us and offer us, buy us the concept.
Oh yes, that would be nice. Because if you don't have any more songs for the list, I would like to put another song on the list, if I may. A listener sent it to me, Sarah, I think. A few weeks ago, I always like to listen to the song. The song is just called Live and the band is called Fletcher Fletcher.
Like Fletcher actually written only the e-field at the end, but F-L-E-T-C-H-R and then the same again. Fletcher Fletcher with Live. I don't think many people know that. And by the way, I'm always happy about music tips. You send me so much.
But if you send me artists who already have 3, 4, 5, 6 million listeners minimum, then they don't deserve it as much as artists who only have 4,000, 5,000 listeners, like Fletcher. Fletcher, for example, of the time, I always prefer them. And of course there are also great new songs from Post Malone or something else, although this Post Malone country record... Also, I didn't get warm with him.
You probably didn't even listen to him, Jan. Absolutely not.
Post Malone, I always just look and think to myself, oh, yes, yes, when is that going wrong? But he's probably feeling a little better again.
He's actually doing quite well. I don't think so. I think he just looks like that. That's just the junkie look. I think he lives relatively healthy, except that he's a chain smoker. But... That didn't hurt Halmut Schmidt either. You can get 100 years old with that kid.
Olli, let's make a little pause, if that's okay. I still have a few things on the set. I would like to ask a few advice from you as a more experienced person in dealing with my former colleague, who either doesn't feel so good or who somehow... Before I have the feeling, you have to intervene a little bit. It's about the former ARD moderator El Hotzo. I have two or three questions for you.
I would just briefly put them on the sidelines, because you're a band guy.
I've been pretty close with him lately. We often meet at a Schei Latte in Prenzlauer Berg. I've seen him again and we talk about everything. We also talked about you, so if you have any questions, I'm always open for you.
Do you have anything else we want to talk about that you can maybe tell the people so that they can be a little curious?
I was at RB Leipzig the day before yesterday, at the Champions League against Liverpool at the game. And then I posted a photo that I was there. I was torn up for a moment. And then people, this crap club, why are you going there? You are also Hamburg, such a garbage club. Only men write, of course, who turn through immediately. And then I wrote back a few.
Yes, I wanted to see first-class football again. Seven years HSV in the second league. It's nice, the stadium is always full, the mood is always great. But I mean, it's also great to see a team that plays in the first Bundesliga. in the Champions League. And that wasn't a good game anyway, I have to say. It wasn't a good week for the German team in the Champions League.
Bayern 4-1 lost, 5-2 Dortmund lost against Real Madrid and 1-0 RB Leipzig. There are still a few more performances and much more in our big Sunday podcast Fest und Flauschig. We're taking a short break and will be right back for you. See you soon, my dears. Take care. Bye, see you soon.
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Es ist schon einige Zeit her, dass wir etwas von Jenny Elvers gehört haben. Doch nun meldet sich die Schauspielerin umso lauter zurück.
Dann holt sie nochmal richtig aus.
Ja, ganz genau. Fest und Flauschig ist hier am Sonntag, den 27. Oktober 2024. Oliver Schulz ist in Berlin und Johannes Böhmermann befindet sich im Schwarzwald. Und das ist heute die Verbindung, die Deutschland zusammenhält. Wie so ein Band, wie so ein Gürtel umschließen wir heute Deutschland von Nordosten bis Südwesten.
Ist das nicht schön? Yes, but we are also the action podcast for the whole family, as Arnold Schwarzenegger would say, Jan.
You know that. in this case. Because it's really, I mean, what a nonsense. Do you remember how it was eight years ago when Trump was elected against Hillary Clinton and everyone thought before, never ever will he do that. And then there were four years of Trump. We all can, we older people, still remember very well how it was. And now the TV is on.
You had a live show back then and you all stayed awake with the editorial staff. Yes, exactly. We streamed it in the ZDF Mediathek back then, because it was such a gag highlight and stuff. And then, I remember, there came the famous Swiss comedian, one of the biggest international comedians ever, Thomas Spitzer, because he's the man who makes her. Hazel Brugger was part of it.
She came to it spontaneously. And also the man who makes her, who basically pulls the strings behind her or actually stands over her. Thomas Spitzer was also there at the time, her friend at the time, I think they got married in the meantime.
They were also there that night and it was a very strange atmosphere because we then noticed at two o'clock, oh shit, we thought it was a joke, but now he's really going to be president. And it was already obvious at the time that it would be an absolute disaster. But the bizarre thing is, now, eight years later, it is again conceivable close and again the probability is quite high
That Donald Trump will be elected again, now 78 years old, and that's in two weeks. And I don't know if I'm telling too much now, but Olli, you're fired from the UNO. I've been invited back to America, actually.
You've been invited back to America. But this time I'm flying with the U-Bahn. Ah, that's great. That's the one that goes through under the Atlantic, the new U-Bahn.
Ah, great. I think that's great. You're kind of a watchdog of the UNO. You're divided. You look to see if it's counted correctly and you're there, I think, for the German government, but also, above all, to all, first of all, for Felsen zum Flauschig, with a report. I'm a blue helmet. I'm on my way as a blue helmet in America.
You're really there next week, especially for political reasons, to check if everything is going with the right thing.
That means in the coming week, we can announce that now, there will be a very special edition of Fest und Flauschig, but not a one where Olli sits in America, because he has to do for political reasons, but we will finally have the opportunity to send the big, secret gift cabinet episode, which has so far not yet reached the public, from the IFA Summer Garden 2024.
And I don't know, did we discuss a lot of current things?
I don't think so. I don't know. I had the feeling that this was our best live show we've done so far. But my feelings can of course be deceiving as well. And it turns out that it was such a dirty episode again. But let's surprise you. I think we both left the stage with a smile and even clapped briefly. Yes. Completely uncomfortable. High five, Olli. Mega awesome delivered.
Yes, Jan, you too. We still have it.
We still have it. The old lions are still biting. The old lions are still biting. You can say it was the last nice summer evening. The next day autumn really came in all over Germany. And we still had a relatively nice evening. I think you were barefoot on stage. Could it be that you walked barefoot around? I remember that you were barefoot.
I actually intended to finally show my beautiful feet. And then you immediately dissed me and said that they would be little pig's feet. Somehow you said something like that, because I had a little water in my ... Swollen!
As if you had an overseas flight behind you. Swollen feet. I was just about to buy thrombosis stuff for you again quickly. For the Sam John Kelly pharmacy. You definitely have strong feet. You don't even see that when you look at them in the face. This haggard face is connected with very strong, fleshy feet that hang on your legs down there.
Naja, das gibt es auf jeden Fall nächste Woche und dann wirst du uns in zwei Wochen davon berichten, wie es in Amerika war. Aber das nur so als kleines foreshadowing.
Aber lass uns nochmal zurückgehen zur Präsidentschaftswahl vor acht Jahren. Ihr wart alle überrascht und ich werde jetzt auch für dich mal einen kleinen Übergang schaffen. Damals war ja auch schon der liebe Kollege, der damals noch minderjährige El Holzo dabei. Und hat damals, glaube ich, als Praktikant eine der ersten Sendungen oder ersten Sachen mitgemacht.
Nein, nein, nein, das sind völlige Legenden. Also El Holzo... It's about Sebastian L. Hotzohotz, the fallen angel of the German entertainment business.
But wasn't he there as a little boy?
No, no, they were there. He wasn't even born at the time. No, he wasn't in the team at the time. We were still in the old studio at the time. At some point, unfortunately, there was so much mold that we had to get out. And we're in the new studio now. And he first joined the new studio. No, of course not. El Hotzo was already there in 2020, but I think it was 2018, when was it? No, it was 2016.
2016 was El Hotzo, never ever. I was still blocked on Twitter. In the meantime, I'm blocked on Twitter. To jump right into this little story. I was blocked by my former colleague and by all the people who didn't notice it. So El Hotzo. I've already told it a little bit in the last few weeks.
An ex-colleague of ours, who worked with us in the team, left two years ago because he said in Berlin he wanted to Ich habe in Berlin jetzt einen neuen Job beim RBB, mache irgendwie Podcast auch noch mit Salva Humsi und so. Also hat er irgendwie gedacht, jetzt in Berlin geht's fett, jetzt kommt die große Karriere. Und dann ist im Sommer das Unvermeidliche passiert.
Man muss nämlich einfach aufpassen im deutschen Entertainmentgeschäft, was man macht und was man sagt. Und das ist Man kann natürlich lästern, hier Olli Schulz und Jan Böhmermann so lange dabei und so, aber das ist auch alleine noch dabei zu sein und nicht von den vielen Querschlägern, die einen so treffen können im Mediengeschäft, dahingerafft zu werden, wie es El Hotzo erlitten hat.
Das ist ein großes Glück, da müssen wir wirklich jeden Morgen beim Aufstehen dem Herrgott dafür danken, dass es uns noch nicht getroffen hat. El Hotzo ist nämlich in diesem Sommer gecancelt worden. Weißt du das noch? Bist du noch da, Olli? Now you've been away for a long time, Jan, I hear you again. Oh, El Hotso has been canceled this summer. I hear you again.
Because he made a joke where you really have to say, yes, Sebastian. You can't just say anything at ARD and ZDF. He made a joke after the Trump attack. And he was really so tasteless that I have to say, and I'm really not a friend of the sharp joke, but that was really too much. So, bam, now he's away from the window. And now, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Yeah, that's it now. However, I don't think it was final, Jan, right? I don't know.
I can imagine that he might create a new account with Blue Sky, a new Frühling. But to be honest, for me, he's gone. I'm glad he's gone, and I don't know how to save him. Because you really have to say, if you work with ARD and ZDF, you really have to take care of what you do outside of your job at ARD and ZDF.
In a podcast, for example, in the story of October... But is his stick horse, so his main task, what does he always do?
These sayings, these sentences on the internet that are always shared... Memes! Memes! Memes, okay, I thought memes are always with photos and then there's a saying in it, but he only has these sayings, these tiles where he has his own ideas.
By the way, it's not a bad moment, but I noticed that what he posts is very often spread by tattoo models who have come of age, who themselves have not come up with the idea what he says and then share it and say true words, it's a bit like that.
Yeah, but you can't buy anything from that. In the end, it's of course stupid, because he overstepped the line, he made jokes. And maybe a hint, if you're planning a career in the media business, at ARD and ZDF, no matter what you do, even outside of ARD and ZDF, people who think you suck will call the press at ARD and ZDF for the first time.
No matter if, I don't know, if I tell a story about the Oktoberfest in a podcast, for example, And then there's a lot of trouble. Then it's always called ZDF moderator, even though we're on Spotify. Nobody cares about that. So you have to finance it. Spotify pays five times more money than ZDF has ever paid. So I'm basically... You can also say with love, this is your main business partner.
The main business, really, it's funny cause it's true, my main business, and with great distance, is podcast host. For years, for 13 years. That's my main... Podcast, Janni. Podcast, I'm a main job, I'm a podcaster. Everything else is time hustles for me, at the very least.
And at Spotify, but when I build shit at ZDF or something, or make a great joke, do you think that at Spotify someone calls and asks, say, the Böhmer man, what do you say to that? But at ZDF or also at ARD...
That's just because Spotify doesn't have any contacts, so there's no e-mail app that you can write to.
I can imagine if you call Daniel Nicolodion, Daniel, if you call him, then there would be something. Yes, I think so. Just don't call him. Because I think people believe that you can put ARD and ZDF under pressure a little bit when you call the press office. And what should I say? It works. It also works a little bit. In any case, they also did that with El Hotzo in the summer.
Then everyone called and said, yes, RBB, you are working on someone who makes a great joke. Think about it. So he made a joke and that's hard. And then RBB said, yes, we have to throw it out now. Then he had a radio show, I think. Eight weeks, he lost once every eight weeks. And then the headline was ... For 250 euros. Highly. Highly. And then the battle line was born.
El Hotzo kicked out at the RBB because of a joke. And then the ZDF was also asked. Although he doesn't work at the ZDF anymore. And that's for years. He's been with us for years. And when he was with us... in quotation marks, worked, he never really worked. He always tried his old jokes, which he made on Twitter, to sell us again in the new dress. Yes, but I'm not stupid yet.
He can really pack in, that was it. That was it. That was it. How do you get out of that shit again? And there you really have to be careful what you do when you work at ARD and ZDF. Those are two stations that are under political fire. Now three sentences will be shortened. The Tagesschau must not... Should not, supposedly after this, did you notice this reform idea of ARD and ZDF?
I just wanted the three-part to be embedded.
There is such a reform paper, which was developed by some commission, how to make ARD and ZDF possible in the future. And one of the ideas is that ARD and ZDF can only do radio and television in the future, so that they are possible in the future. I don't know...
I don't know exactly how that will be in the future, because I don't see that radio, for example, is a medium that is still possible in the future. And why ARD and ZDF have even banned doing something on the Internet in recent years, I've never understood anyway. Three sentences should be set up, waves should be put together.
The worst thing is, now they all really do this at the Tagesschau, so nagging to point out that they would like to continue publishing things on the Internet in the future. As it should be for a modern media company. Well, but you really have to pay attention. So that the mediatheque is stamped or what exactly? I still don't understand that.
There is probably the problem, the private publishers, especially the Springer publishing house, complain because ARD and ZDF also write online texts, for example Tagesschau.de or ZDF Heute, they just make news websites.
And then the big, serious news companies see each other, especially the Springer publishing house, in its market power somehow threatened, when there are even more news on the Internet from public broadcasting stations. And they say then they are not allowed to publish texts on the Internet, which is completely nonsense.
But the internet is absolutely wild west. The truth is that the internet has been dead for a long time, in my opinion. That's why it's important that as a small supporter you can still trust someone. Or where you believe that real journalism is still happening.
It's not about the interests of billionaires, it's about common sense. That's the good thing about ARD and ZDF. There is common good behind it. There is the obligation to do something for everyone. And to keep up with this madness on the internet, which is serious and which does not follow the political agenda of a crazy billionaire, would be a very good idea.
And nobody clicks on BILD.de because there is ZDF today. I don't understand what that is.
I ordered a book from the internet, I don't know if it's... I got a very short request from someone, Roger de Weck, do you know him? Do you know who that is?
Roger de Weck, isn't he a Swiss? Roger de Weck?
Yes, exactly, he's a Swiss and he wrote a book, I don't know, I heard an interview on Radio 1 and it all sounded very good and it says, why do we have to protect journalism from the media? And I found the interview with him very informative. Now I have ordered the book, but I haven't read it yet. That's why I can't say yet whether it's good or bad. I will definitely do it in the next episodes.
It sounded very exciting in any case, because I am also of the opinion that journalism must be protected in such times at the moment. If I may throw something in there for a moment. Or no, you go on. Excuse me.
No, I don't have anything else to say. I just want to officially end El Hot's career here and wish him all the best for his future life. And if you've had bad luck, please take care of what you do at ARD and ZDF, otherwise you're unemployed. Bam, bam, bam. That was all I wanted to say.
I'm not quite, so if I may say something. As someone who has been around with Sebastian for a long time here in Berlin and where we also had a lot of plans and thought about it, I think he still has something in his hands.
Have you ever sat down with him professionally? Have you ever sat down with him? No, I've seen him sitting on a bench and then just kept going.
Really? Yes.
I told the story that he once spoke to Luc Mokric and threatened him with blows. And I was afraid that he would yell at me too. I didn't want that.
That's why I didn't go to the bank. Completely unpredictable. He was sitting there with a woman on the bench. I didn't want to disturb that. I didn't know what was going on there. But I just kept going. By the way, I was there with a dear colleague of ours. Who? Tell me the name. No, you have to keep secrets. Someone who no longer lives in Germany. Herbert Grönemeyer. With Herbert Grönemeyer.
Well, I'm curious what happens to him. I think if you weren't canceled at least once, you would never have lived.
How often were we already canceled? Let's not talk about others, finally talk about us. I was also canceled more often. You were also canceled more often. Half canceled, but then came back at the end. At some point you have such a cancel ... Well, I've never really been canceled.
So far I've actually ... I'm also wondering how I did it. Shitstorms, I've been through a lot of them. I can't remember where it really is in the media. Of course, there are always people on social media who think you're stupid, but that I'm in a position like that, I think I've always been lucky. What do you mean luck? Maybe also bad luck. Maybe it will be a slow time.
Yes, you could... But you can soon cut something together or send something to the public in terms of AI and then say, look, he said that. That was for him and so on. That won't take long, Jan. Then we all have a shitstorm. Then the world is just another big shitstorm because you don't know anymore. And that's what I was just about to say. I found that pretty touching.
I read a posting from the former wife of the One Direction singer who died in Argentina and the... And she has a child with him. I don't even know his name, sorry. But the singer of One Direction, who fell from the balcony, you don't know exactly. And he has a little daughter. And the mother said, with everything that is being reported, you should still think that there is a child.
that at some point you have to read it all and also confronted with a lot of things that simply do not correspond to the truth. And that this world is pretty cruel, that it doesn't even take 24 hours anymore until everyone has their own opinion about it, knows exactly what has happened and the like.
And that you should maybe withdraw a little bit from such topics and not just look at the clicks, is of course a fight against the windmills, because it just doesn't work like that anymore in this internet world. But that sounded pretty sad to me when I read that.
Yes, Liam Payne is his name. He died tragically last week in Argentina in a hotel. Yes, I also thought that some videos were posted so quickly and then supposedly from these videos that came from a completely different context.
And that happens quite often on the internet with these videos that are shown here, the last recordings, then it was something like that two years ago or what do I know, but the main thing is that you can talk on TikTok or something like that yourself or on Twitter or something like that, by already judging things. Yes, I definitely found that pretty tragic.
And where we are already tragic, can I continue, Jan? It's something tragic that happened. And we would have to make a little special edition today, if it's okay, of a section that was always there on Wednesdays, which was put on pause for a short time, but which will come back. Here it is for you.
I don't care, let me talk
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Metal on Sunday. Jan, and many who are interested in metal have already read it, but I have to draw attention to this man. Someone else died in the last week, namely the first singer of Iron Maiden, Paul D'Anno, who sang the first two records. And these two records are considered by many hardcore fans to be really legendary records.
Of course, with the third record came the singer who is still the singer, Bruce Dickinson to Iron Maiden and created this band. in neue Höhen geführt mit dem Album The Number of the Beast. Eigentlich alle Alben, die in den 80er rauskamen mit Bruce Dickinson am Gesang, wurden erfolgreicher und erfolgreicher. Legendär das Album danach, mein Lieblingsalbum Peace of Mind.
Dann gibt es noch das auch wirklich hervorragende Album Power Slave. Dann kam die Live-Platte Life After Death. Und dann kam Somewhere in Time. Und dann nach meiner Meinung nach die letzte richtig große, wichtige Iron Maiden-Platte 1988. And that was 7th Son over 7th Son. And this success story started in 1980 with the debut album Iron Maiden and the second album Killers.
Paul Diano was the singer, came from punk, was actually someone who hung around with Sid Vicious and such people and was very impulsive in the London punk scene. His big problem was that he took a lot of drugs, took a lot of alcohol, took it to himself. More than all other band members of Iron Maiden. Steve Harris, the bassist and head of the band, didn't like it at some point.
And so Paul D'Arnaud was fired from the band in 1982. And yes, you can now say, yes, too much drugs, had his own fault. I always find all these judgments also about such topics. Drug addiction is also an addiction. And I think Paul Diano himself has done that for a long time. I got to know him, Janu.
And in 1994 he tried it again with a band, which was titled after the second album by Iron Maiden, Killers. And he played in the Docks. After that I was with him and a few other people, because we were fans of him, drinking. It was called Große Freiheit in Rasputin, I think it was back then. And we spent the whole night there. And they drank there and he was a really nice guy.
Now he died very early, at 68, 64. He had been struggling with diseases for a long time and was really a charismatic guy. And I would like you to listen to two songs. Two songs that Bruce Dickinson sang live later on. The title track for the second album, Killers, and the song Running Free. Both absolute classics.
And when you listen to the voice, I also have moments where I think, yes, Bruce Dickinson with this high singing and so on, that sometimes annoyed me. And this powerful voice of Paul D'Arnaud, who really left her footprints in metal, in the new wave of British metal.
And that's why I'm putting on our Metal, I think it's still called Metal am Mittwoch playlist, two songs by Paul D'Arnaud, really an excellent metal playlist. I recently looked at it again, where these two songs from the first two Iron Maiden records now find their new home, their new home. And Rest in Peace, Paul D'Arnaud, really great singer.
And Iron Maiden are on tour again next year, I think. They won't do it for a long time either. They are also old, drinking a lot of beer, but otherwise I think relatively fit. And you notice Bruce Dickinson. My light man is also the light man of Iron Maiden and Bruce Dickinson. And you notice Bruce Dickinson a little bit. He recently left Iron Maiden in the 90s.
There he sang Blaze Bailey from the band Wolfsbane. That didn't work at all. And then he came back with the album New World Order or New Brave World. And since then he's been singing there. But you notice that he doesn't have the same passion for it as he did in the 80s. I think he seems to be much better at his solo concerts. Agiler als mit Iron Maiden.
Trotzdem sollte man sich Iron Maiden noch einmal angucken, bevor die Band bald sich wahrscheinlich irgendwann auflöst, weil es auch nicht mehr die Jüngsten sind. Das war ein kleiner Überblick über das Schaffen von Paul D'Anno. Und das war, ich mach mal kurz kurz.
Gerne, gerne. It was a long monologue, but I did it. I think it's very important, and I think it's, especially dear Sunday listeners of Fest und Flauschlich, many of you are now annoyed that you missed this section because you never heard it on Wednesday. Great luck that finally on Sunday there will be a metal intro. I think it's great. Great. That's it.
Yes!
Yes. Yes. You come for the prom gossip, you come for the gossip, but you stay for the metal. That's the motto of Fest und Flauschig. You learn a lot of things, but the things that people really keep on the podcast for a long time, those are the hot insights from the world of metal. I think it's great that we're there, that we're there.
That we stay on the ball, right? That we stay on the ball for the metal world.
Yes, especially we both. I'm really involved there. I can hardly do anything else. I'm so involved, I can hardly talk while you're talking.
You are so bound to it when I talk about it that you don't want to say anything yourself. Jan, I would love to say hello to two people. From whom? From Kathrin Bauerfeind. I recorded a podcast with Kathrin Bauerfeind on Monday, which is coming out for Christmas. I think they always come out on Advent days. She has a Christmas meeting on four Advent days with four guests. I was one of these guests.
That was very, very nice. After that, we both went to eat something, went to a party. I rarely meet Katrin, but she is one of the colleagues that I have met over all the years in the media business, with whom I really appreciate and a kind of friendship that really connects us, that we go to eat one, two, three times a year and then talk about everything possible. And that's totally fun.
Also, of course, about you. That's why I should greet you very warmly from Katrin. On a birthday party of my record boss, who had a birthday, I just took Katrin with me. I can't come, I'm already arranged with Katrin Bauerfeind on that day for podcasts and food, and he said, I think they're so great, please bring them with you.
I don't even know what to say, I'm so nervous, I think they're so smart. He really appreciates her and I took her with me and we were there. Of course, Katrin as a media woman knew more people at the party than I did. And he immediately stopped with people while I was standing in the corner. I thought so, I'm actually the one who arrived here in the record scene.
And then at some point we're both out and go to the other side of the street, want to go home and call everyone a taxi. And then I hear a voice call, say that's Olli Schulz who's standing there. And I think, oh God, now somewhere. And who's standing there with a cap? Charlie Hübner. No. Charlie Hübner, from whom I should also greet you, who also listens to our podcast.
And I met Charlie Hübner and Katrin. And Lars Jessen was also there, the director. We met by chance. This is Berlin, you know. Just on the street at 8.30 a.m. Did that not happen to you in Essen? That doesn't happen to you in Essen at the main station, because you don't meet Charlie Hübner there. That's why the bar is open until 24 hours in Essen.
Because we knew, we would have liked to have something to drink, but we didn't know where we were supposed to go.
Look, we're going to Essen.
Then we talked about it and I almost missed it. I want to talk about the fact that the long-time great band Element of Crime released a documentary, directed by Charlie Huebner. And I haven't seen the film yet, otherwise I would have talked about it for a long time. But I don't get any invitations, I don't get any links, nobody tells me anything.
And Element of Crime is now, I think, 70, 80 years old. They started before the war. Sven Regner was still underage at the time. Still made Fickrock lyrics.
In the meantime, he became the frontman from the flag helper. He was still standing on the bunker in Hamburg and got the planes down. And in the meantime already the first song lyrics.
At that time, the first song lyrics were given time. Started with English lyrics since 1991. Since the record, back then, behind the moon. Sing German, that was the smartest decision, because I also listened to the English songs of Element of Crime. I never thought it was so cool. Of course, it is also important for the development of this band, but that's how it really started.
Back then, Hintermond and the, in my opinion, still best record, Weißes Papier, which came out in the following year, anyway, great band, great lyrics written. I'm sure, I asked Charlie, I said, Charlie, is the film good too? And then he says, That's the best work I've done so far.
And he also made a wild heart out of Monchi or Feine Sahne Fischfilet, also a really great film, but he's very proud of it. And I once said two years ago, Charlie Huebner is also someone who feels like that at the moment. There is such a peak with every actor, where he feels in every comedy, in every film, every week. Jürgen Vogel, for example. Do you still know the great Jürgen Vogel era?
The great Moritz Bleib? I was with Jürgen Vogel with Harald Schmidt in the team when Jürgen Vogel had his big Jürgen Vogel time. He was also part of Harald Schmidt's ensemble. And I think I met Jürgen Vogel twice in the Savoy Hotel in the wellness area. Hello, Jürgen, greetings! And we chatted and went into the living room.
Several doppelgängers, I think, like Helge Schneider.
No, no, it was 100% Jürgen Vogel. And I remember one encounter in Savoy, in the wellness area. Jürgen Vogel on the bench. Hi Jürgen. Then into the sauna. Hello Udo Kier. Udo Kier in the sauna. I ran straight out again, left the hotel. And somehow in my own bed, because it was a bit too crazy. Jürgen Vogel and Udo Kier in the sauna. Dude, where are we here?
I had such a great time talking to Charlie Hübner on the street that I invited him to come to our podcast next year. He's supposed to come to the Christmas circus. Why not? That's awesome. But we don't have the time, because he said, I'll come, but only if we do a really nice two-hour show. In any case, I would be very happy about Charlie Hübner. We should look again at some point.
Also from time to time, not so often, to invite a guest and to talk to someone again. Charlie Hübner was very nice anyway. Very nice greetings, if you listen to this show, also to Lars Jessen. You met in Berlin and I thought, this is Berlin, you will meet someone again. He's party, he's here, podcast with Katrin Bauerfeind. It was a really nice evening.
Yes, that was not a big point, the story, but I thought I had to tell you everything that happened to me.
Exactly, I would now like to, I would like to tell you, Gerd, we are almost at the end, but I would like to conclude, without going into the details of why I am telling you now, but I want to tell you a story that is very interesting and where we have never really talked about it, because it has not been possible so far.
I want to tell you a story about a weird encounter that you will definitely be interested in and a few background information about a thing that you have almost forgotten, just like I almost forgot it. But then I realized that I had not only not forgotten it, but that it really lived on in me for a long time and was only awakened. It's about the children's television series Hallo Spencer.
I don't want to talk about the movie. I don't want to talk about it.
It doesn't matter. I just want to tell you briefly. No, Jan, it doesn't matter. Don't put me under the table. I wrote to you that I really like the movie. And I think the movie has earned attention. It's really a movie made with love. And I hope... This is a film, before you start, one more thing, this is a film, I want to see it on Sunday when I'm free, at 4.15 p.m.
on television, cuddle with the blanket, make me a cocoa and see the Hello Spencer film in ARD or ZDF in the main program. Because they should all see it. This is really a beautiful film.
Yeah, okay. I know that it will be released soon. It always takes a long time. You sit for years on a project and then you're not allowed to talk about it because it's not clear when it will be released. We have the film now. It's a film by Timo Schierhorn. He usually does the Deichkind stuff. That's his first film. And...
We showed it at the Film Festival once and now it's coming out on the 13th, 12th, 1-3-1-2, on the 13th, 12th in the ZDF Mediathek. And the good thing is, Lars Eidinger doesn't play a part. Lars Eidinger doesn't play a part, but other great people do.
But I don't want to talk about it yet, I just want to tell you how it came to this film, because it might be a story ... No, I know that the story touches you in many places. So watch out. Here's what happened. That was, I think, in the year 2021, beginning of 2021 or end of 2020. That was the Corona year. We just started with the ZDF Magazin Royale. We started again with broadcasts.
We had no audience. It was all mega weird. A very strange time. And we thought at the beginning, we have to come up with something. No people come. We are alone here. Then we can actually do a few things experimentally. And then we first built a Spencer doll in 2020, because we somehow made fun of it behind the scenes in the editorial office and thought, ha ha ha, where is he?
Hello Spencer, ha ha ha. Then Miguel Robitski, greetings, built a doll and then somehow played it. And then, Winfried Debertin, the real inventor of Hallo Spencer, the real, true inventor of Hallo Spencer, said, hey, I saw that, you did that on the show, if you ever want to have the real Spencer, say goodbye. I said, what? The real Spencer, is it still there?
So then we invited Winfried, he came with his colleague Frieder. He talked about the poldi, the real original poldi, the dragon. Hallo Spencer, the people who don't come from northern Germany may not know this, but it's a children's doll series from the 80s and early 90s. That was a bit... Slightly crazy children's series, you could say, in contrast to all the other series back then.
So somehow they're a bit crazy and the special thing about Hallo Spencer was, there was a roundabout, so the camera was, you have to imagine, in the middle and around it was the doll stage built up like a circle and the camera only had to turn 360 degrees and the dolls could walk through this doll stage.
And the cool thing was, when they went to the right, they came back from the left at some point, because the whole thing was a circle. That's the Runddorf, where the dolls lived. Spencer, Poldi, Kasi, the Queech Boys, Elvis, Lulu, so a lot of great Galactica came down from time to time. A lot of great characters. I never forgot that and always thought about it.
And all of a sudden this mail came from Winfried Debertin, who said, yes, if you want, I'll come by. And then he came and he brought Poldi with him. And Spencer and Elvis, not Spencer, Elvis and Poldi were there with us in the show. And then we talked together after the show. Corona and everything didn't go so well. And then he told us a little bit, because I asked him, what are you doing now?
Where are all the dolls? And he said, yes, they are in the archive. I said, how in the archive? Yes, I have kept everything. So all the props, everything that there is from Hallo Spencer is kept. And that's in a disco in front of the gates of Hamburg. There is the archive.
Yes, and the nice thing is that I already snuck into this disco at the park.
You can say, this is very family-friendly, you can say that this was the place where you... I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but you had to do it yourself.
Yeah, yeah, come on. No, you have to pay attention. There are always people who complain and say, it's all nice what we're doing here, but when Olli Schulz starts talking about sexual parts again, that's not part of the podcast. Okay, so you snuck into the Parkplatz des Micmacs. That was a big room disco that had its prime time in the 60s and 70s.
Huge disco in front of the Tours of Hamburg in Moosburg. Moisburg. Meck, meck, Moisburg. Meck, meck, Moisburg. And Winfried said, everything's in there. And my colleague Tim Wolf and I, we looked at each other and thought, what, what, what, that's all in there? Can we visit you? Yes, of course, come by. And then we visited Winfried.
And then we visited Winfried, Elias Haug was also there, one of Haug and Bauer, a funny comic duo, and my colleague Julia, Michel and Tim and I, we were four. And then we drove there and we didn't dare our eyes. Because Winfried greeted us and his colleague was with him and showed us everything.
And in this big room disco, which is abandoned, so there was nothing in it anymore, there were only huge halls, there were all kinds of scenes. Everything that ever existed, what was left of Hallo Spencer, all the dolls, there were huge... Stoffballen, kilometer-wide file folders with old comic books, where sometimes Pitt Knorr and Armin Maywald with the typewriter wrote comic books.
So everything there was from Hallo Spencer was in this disco. And we walked through there and couldn't get it. Including the Ruhr Post and also half-finished dolls, the construction truck, the castle from Nepomuk, the treehouse from Kasi. And Winfried said, yes, that's here ... It's going to be torn down soon and I don't know where to go with it. And what are we going to do now?
I thought then, as we drove away, we sat back in the train and talked about it all the time. And then we thought, we have to... So you can't... You can't relive this series. That's all in the past, but you have to... And even if you want to relive it, you have to first tell what actually happened.
And above all... Yes, and above all, there is so much heart, because it's just the things that you experienced in your childhood, the series that you saw, those are the defining things at the end, where most of the heartblood is. That's why I think it was incredibly important to you that it's not just all over the place now.
Yes, but imagine, you're standing in front of the real Baumhaus, the real Kasi, and it was really like... What? That can't be. How is that supposed to be thrown away? Because Winfried said, yes, I have to get out of here now. It's being torn down, the whole disco has to go. I can't afford to store it all here. No one wants to have it anymore. No one wants to do anything with it.
And I was like, okay, but what kind of crazy story is that? And then you know what was crazy? Then at some point the NDR ran. So the NDR was the broadcaster who commissioned it, with whom he did it together for a very long time. And at some point the storage deadlines at the NDR ran out.
And then once a week he had a small load with the old archives that were lying around in Hamburg in some warehouse of the NDR. And then it was agreed according to the contract that it will be 20 years old and then they will get it back at some point.
And imagine, you are at the time of your career, where at some point once a week you get your old cutouts and your old tapes from the NDR kicked out the door. So according to the motto, we have no use for it anymore, do with it what we want, ciao, goodbye. Then once a week or every two weeks he got a truck like that with the old transmission tapes.
And then he just randomly piled them up in this discotheque. That was, for example, the old tape cassettes in a format that doesn't exist anymore, where there are no more playback devices. They were then clamped with tension straps in the castle of Nepomuk. I have to send you a picture. We also took pictures, but we couldn't believe it.
You've already sent me pictures of it. When you were from the Begehung. I got these photos back then, after I showed you a newspaper excerpt. sent via the fire, before it was kept secret, this fire that was in the Micmac, I think, or a flood or something like that.
It was a fire and thieves came in there, yes.
Yes, and you sent me a few photos of you there and this visit. By the way, I think it's really a nice thing to save that, because to be honest, at some point you forget something. People might still talk about it and at some point it's all gone. So hello Spencer and the entire Spencer community has another chance to go back to series after this film, right Jan?
Exactly, so the idea was always, we have to start over and I always had with Tim and Elias together and then with Timo, who came along as a director at some point, then we were relatively quickly sure, no, so such a nostalgia film, that's not it, actually we have to tell a fairy tale, first of all from the man who came up with this series and what kind of What a great guy Winfried is.
I mean, that's of course the work of life. So really the absolute work of life. And of course you don't want to throw it away. That's like your stone. Everyone has something they want to hold on to. And then it gets forgotten at some point. And then at some point you can't store it anymore. You know, this whole Hallo Spencer thing with the Ropas, it was all around there.
And then we said, we have to tell the story first of Winfried and the people who made Hallo Spencer. We tried to get all the old puppeteers for the film. This fairy tale, that just told this story, they fictionalized it a bit, but actually it's a real story. And now let's see what happens next.
The funny thing is, we now have six overseas containers, pay rent for a few, almost one and a half years. So that's not mine, but if someone, But what's the plan? What's going to happen to it? I don't know. I don't know. The film will be released in December, December 13th, in the Mediathek. And on the 25th, it will air at ZDF Neo at 8.15 p.m. It's a nice Christmas film.
It's also full of the Christmas story. It's a bit sad. It's a family film. So you can watch it with children. But it's also a film... A little bit for adults, but it's not bad, you can watch it with children. It's just very sad. I've already watched it with children and they cried at two points because it's very dramatic and emotional.
But now we have six overseas containers with all the old dolls and old archival documents. And because the Micmac doesn't exist anymore. The Micmac is now torn down, there is now an old man's home. That doesn't exist anymore and we don't really know where it is.
The Micmac is gone, right?
The Mic-Mac is gone, but it's been gone for a long time. And with the Mic-Mac, my libido has disappeared. Well, I wanted to at least briefly, because it has been very definite for the last three years, and Timo really made a whole J. Pohlmann made the camera and Nico Hartmann cut it, that was really a great one. Dirk von Lotso sang a song in the, with Special Feat, is featured by
Three special artists and Dirk von Lotswitz, which is also mega weird. Just to see them together on stage, it's really been a great film. And I wanted to tell the story behind it a little bit, because it really happened.
From when is the film, say again, from when is it available on the media?
From December 13th in the ZDF-Mediathek and from December 25th at ZDF-NEO and then it runs in the main program on December 27th at the family-friendly time at 23.45 p.m. That's a shame.
There are no other promo measures, there is also nothing, we have tried to put it in cinemas, but I didn't know that either, because the film is a television film and then you have to, if you want to show it in the cinema, you have to pay extra money for the music rights, because that's a cinema evaluation and then the ZDF said it's too expensive. And then I said, but isn't that a shame?
Because it's actually a movie. No, better not. And that's why it's only on TV. But it's still nice. And if you know what we can do with six overseas containers, the whole doll and stage world of Hallo Spencer, I think Winfried, but also the people who were involved in the film, and that was a really great team. There were many older film colleagues with us.
So we recorded it with a very diverse team. And in this case it's not... skin color too, but not only gender, but also age-wise. There were a lot of older colleagues there. That was really moving to see. And we all want that, we all don't want that to be thrown away.
If someone knows what you can do with six overseas containers, television history, maybe someone wants to do an exhibition in Hamburg or something like that, or wants to support us, then write us a DM. That would make me happy and Winfried happy. And maybe we'll get something on our feet. If you can store an overseas container with you in your new presence, Olli,
old spencer dolls or rolls with plastic or something like that, then I would, so it would relieve us rent-wise.
That always costs a lot of money. You know, I have space. I like to do that. Oh, how nice. I'm looking forward to seeing the film again. I only had a link that was deleted after once and I didn't want to watch it a second time. For safety's sake, because I know... The big Hallo Spencer movie on the 25th of December on TV before, on the 13th of December.
And come on, star cast, Rainer Bock plays with it, Marina Gallisch, Jens Harzer plays with it, Hendrik von Bützingslöwen. Ivy Era. It's really great. Great actresses. Margaretha Bräuch, Victoria von Trautmannsdorf. And of course everyone from Poldi, Kasi, with the original speakers. Everyone who could have come. Some didn't have time or had other shoots, but everyone is there.
The original Spencer Achim Hall is even visible. He even plays himself, not himself, but he is also visible in the picture.
the real voice of spencer totally exciting and beautiful in front of me and that's why the closing music is already running juri with big eyes who wasn't out today and has to shit urgently and with this information i'll leave you alone now and the music is over again i played it so early then we'll hear each other again next week very briefly we'll get back to you next week and then next week you'll hear the summer episode of ifa it's worth it it's worth it very much
It was a nice afternoon on the set of the international radio exhibition in Berlin, on the exhibition site. And then we'll be there shortly next week and then we'll be there for a long time again next week. But next week we'll also be there for a long time, but with a show. Today was also long.
We're always there for you. Thank you for listening. Have a nice week. Stay healthy. Stay positive in your thoughts. We're looking forward to seeing you. See you. Bye. Bye, guys.