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Yo, yo, yo, here are the dinos in the podcast game. Here is still the podcast, like at Muttan back then. Here everything is still done by hand. Here the one-player games are shot down. Here are still two real people, like in the 90s. Here, or I know it from the other one, not really.
No, Jan is not here today. I am Klaus, I am the manager of Jan. And Jan will come back to the show when you have calmed down a bit, my friend, in terms of content.
No, you mean because I'm the angry citizen of the two of us, Klaus?
Because you always come around the corner with your vogue shit. Jan doesn't feel like it anymore.
Should I tell you? All right. Then I'll do the first part of the show, you'll do the second.
No, you're not doing anything here alone if that doesn't get Jan's approval. That's in the contract.
So, see how Jan's manager is on it.
I'm Klaus, I'm Jan's manager.
A very mean swine. That's Klaus.
Yes, I've learned from the very best.
Take one. Who were your role models, Klaus?
Michael Jackson's manager. The father of Michael Jackson. I have Jan and him under control. He does what I say. Jan and Olli are sitting in front of the microphone.
We have to talk about the most important story of the last seven days, Olli. Manfred Krug is dead. Yes, that too. Although, to be honest, I've always had a bad feeling about Manfred Krug, but also for years. Why? When I read the reports of Stucki in his, it's been a long time ago, Deutschboden. No, that was Uslar. Also German among the victims? No, how is the reportage book by Stuckrad Barre?
He had met with Manfred Krug for a long time. And I thought, oh, Manfred Krug is 10 years old. But Manfred Krug was already in a stage where you thought, oh, he won't do it for long. Somehow I didn't surprise myself with Manfred Krug. And I heard from many people that he was supposed to be an incredibly unpleasant guy.
And that's why not so many people had such a personal, intimate relationship with him.
Yesterday he died, today he's being called by Jan Wilmerman.
He was an incredibly unpleasant guy.
Without knowing him, I've heard this a lot. I was with him in a talkshow last year, I think it was your last talkshow appearance, at 3 nach 9. I sat there and was there as a guest and Manfred Krug was also there. But Manfred Krug didn't sit at our table, he got a special table where he was interviewed. by Giovanni Di Lorenzo.
And there Manfred Krug was still a good thing and said that he didn't have any financial problems, because in contrast to his other acting colleagues, he always saved and always put enough on the high edge. And he was there and then said that he was happy. That was last year. I don't know if he was seen on TV again. That was his first TV appearance in a long time.
A lot of people took this tea business very badly. I think he did it with Charles M... Charles Brouwer. No, what's his name again? Charlie Huber? Charles M... Charles Brouwer, I think. With whom he did the Tatort for years. That was when the Tatort was sung. With Manfred Krug and Charles Brouwer. It always annoyed me a lot. When they started singing a song, it was extremely depressing.
Can you say a nice sentence about Manfred Krug? Really. Can you? A nice thing, Jan.
Maybe a great service. When you die, Böhmermann spits into your open grave. Afterlife roasting with Jan Böhmermann. Afterlife roasting, exactly. Only bad about dead people, only bad. Double point, Jan Böhmermann. No, I don't find him unsympathetic. I thought it was the best at the Sesamstraße.
Oh man, dude.
I don't have a bad relationship to my drink. When I said it was the best at the Sesamstraße, it was meant as a compliment. And when the sentence came out of my mouth, I noticed that it wasn't a compliment. The best... The second best night... Night TV.
Oh god.
Sorry, come on, let's do the rest together. I wish myself... I wish myself... I wish myself... I wish myself...
So, I wish you, Manfred Krug, with... On the sunny side. On the sunny side. When it's green outside, we'll hear from Manfred Krug.
Manfred Krug, the one who unfortunately died. The one who unfortunately died. The one who unfortunately died. Manfred Krug was a good guy. When it's green outside, turn on the Spotify playlist. And we'll be right back for you. Welcome to an ultimate crossover edition of...
Defined by Böhmermann and Schultz.
And today we have with us the star of Copa TS, Tommy Schmidt. Thank you very much. We're so thrilled.
And Tommi brought a fantastic topic with him. Yes, yes. Well, Germany is no longer the same with this topic. Tommi, do you want to say that yourself or should I say it? Tell me, when did I tell you that again?
Yesterday, when we were in the forest, I said, you have to... Exactly, we went for a walk with Juri yesterday and then he said, and I'm not quite sure, we had it in a similar form, I think, years ago. But today we do the big five things that should not be missing with any German dinner. With a classic evening bread.
And we're not talking about warm ones here, we're talking about an evening bread plate. With everything that goes with it.
Where you put a wooden board on the table.
With a wooden board, with a bread basket, where various cut-up bread slices are in it. And everything around it. I find, the older I get, the less I like to eat. Look, it's so important to me that I get up. It's a bit like a Powerpoint presentation. The older I get, the more I don't like to eat warm in the evening. Because it's always in my gut and humorous.
And you have such a Steve Jobs attitude. Oh Jürgen Hölle.
And that's why I've really been concentrating on the dinner plate for a long time and I'm trying to optimize it. I try to optimize it and try to make the most perfect dinner plate. German is important
We'll expand that, of course.
I'll start with my place 5.
We don't want to let our guest start, how rude he is. I thought he was the last one. Or is he the first one? The guest is always first. We can erode that together. No, the guest. No, Tommy, you're first. Your place 5. I don't know if it's decadent or not, but crab salad. What? Oh, North Sea crab salad. What kind of word is that? But sorry, but with you, with mixed meat maybe, but we can't do that.
Crab salad. Krabbensalat. Krabbensalat. I always get oysters. Mmm, typical. The one with the mayonnaise at the bottom. Yeah, Tommy's. Tommy's the brand. Tommy. The one with the thing, where there are three things inside. With salad-mayonnaise.
But shrimp, or do you mean North Sea crabs, those little... No, then shrimp, you know, those very cheap, disgusting... No, because crabs are something else. Good and cheap. It's going well here, Maggie. So stop, stop, stop, stop. I always thought... Stop, three things apart. Are we talking about small shrimp or are we talking about crabs? Granade. Help me, Olli.
He's going to put you on the wall.
Now he's got you. Now he's got you on his ass, Tommy. Now he's got me. No. He's doing a show about me, half an hour, just how I can deal with shrimp and crabs. Next Friday you're completely at Leo Magazin, dude. By the way, he said that. He said to me last night, if I don't come, he'll put your editorial office on me for a week. I said, there's a lot going on with you, too.
But it's interesting that you came. Why? I really said from the beginning, when should I be there? I have to write a good message. Tommy came because he's scared.
Can I throw in one thing for a moment? I think a North Sea crab salad roll. Can we say something about that for a moment? It's an important topic. I'm interested in food. I'm over 50.
But it would be great to have an Annabelle show about that.
Yes, but it is totally important that we have one thing. North Sea crab salad on bread or rolls is a breakfast for me to eat. Really? I like to eat that in the North Sea in the morning, because then you have a whole breath, a whole day of something. That's a woman catcher.
Oh, he's rich.
That's a woman catcher. He's rich, he smells like crab out of his mouth. Really. That's... Oh, excuse me, Olli, does that smell like a rotten oyster from your mouth? Come on, kiss me. But you know what I mean, these mayonnaise monsters.
I love them all.
Or three things that were caught in Bulgaria in 1999. My number five is the good old red herring salad. This red colored in this plastic that no one buys anymore. We still eat it. With apple pieces on it. Yes, with pieces in it. Herring shacks. Herring shacks, yes. Herring sticks in red sauce.
But a long bowl or a round one? A long bowl. It tastes different. You mean these tin cans? No, a bowl. Tin cans are junk. No, there are also cream herring with paprika sauce. This purple one. Yes, exactly.
I mean this purple classic herring salad.
Coloured with red beetroot. Yes, exactly. For me, in fifth place of the five ingredients that should not be missing on any German dinner table is the cocktail tomato. Or also cherry tomato. And the thing is, Why is there applause for that? Are you a tomato Nazi or what? It's my place four. It's my place four, actually. The tomato and especially the cherry tomato.
Nobody really likes it because it doesn't taste as good in Germany as it does abroad, for example. Who has ever eaten a tomato in Belgium? Completely different quality. But in Germany it's always like that. And then in the end they are still eaten and they somehow belong to it and mothers lay them down. And if a mother wants to do something particularly fine, then with strunk.
Then they are still laid on top with the green one. These elongated pappers at REWE.
No, because there is vegetables in it.
Yes, because you can see how the tomato has grown. So the cocktail tomato on 5th place is an absolute classic dinner.
I don't think so either. Not at all?
No. You never buy cocktail tomatoes?
I don't like tomatoes.
I only like tomato sauce.
Like a five-year-old. I only like tomato sauce with ketchup or something like that. But I don't like raw tomatoes. Not until today. I think it's disgusting.
And tomato mozzarella and stuff? Not at all. Tomato is a cock blocker. And these huge Bismarck things that just stand around in the area. There are also many people who say, yes, I don't think it's nice, but it would also annoy me if it was painted colorful or something. So you're very quickly in so many sensitivities. That's why I actually prefer the anarchist re-contextualization.
So the color bag principle. And I'll tell you, the Ernst Luger, the Karl Luger thing, Ernst Luger, nonsense, the Karl Luger thing, I think you could have done that without 500,000 euros and three and a half degrees to the right. Just
And at night, with a blanket and a few bandages, you just go to a spontaneous anti-fascist group, or whoever wants to, or citizens for the beautification of Vienna, who just lay their hands on it themselves. You don't have to organize everything. I also think that the color bag throw on Bismarck Denkmäler is a preventive measure that I don't reject. Also the orange Brandenburger Tor.
So to find out how open-minded Sandstein really is, I think that's an exciting new approach. That's not always the case. And I always like it when you try to question Denkmäler in a new context.
Now he's asking us what we think. What ideas would you have? Do you have an idea?
Well, I think the new contextualization at the Cologne Cathedral. In my choice, forced home Cologne, there is this huge one after a chart show of RTL 2 called Clops in the Middle the Dome. First it was a chart show, now it's a church. And this huge church, which has been built for many hundreds of years, on this hill, in this park, there was no bomb.
I also think you should get something new out of his face. Maybe this thing that the Taliban blew up in Afghanistan.
Manfred Krug. Dude, to be honest, if you tinker a little bit, you can put the face of Manfred Krug in Bismarck. And then we would have the biggest Manfred Krug in Hamburg.
And on the sword the titles of all the crime scenes of Manfred Krug are tinkered on the front.
Exactly, and then there's a button at the bottom and then there's a song by him, by Frida, that he sang there. Really? Why not?
Yeah, and out of his head comes a kind of bell game and then the best songs of him and Charles Brouwer will be played out of his head together. I think that's a really good idea. So a completely different person.
Or in Berlin, the victory column will be the biggest doner, the biggest doner game in the world, if you cover the whole thing. You know what? For one month it will be around the coat. And that's from the best doner man in Berlin. And he's doing it here, I don't know, 20 meters high. And up there is chicken, in the middle is calf and down there is vegan or the other way around.
And then you can always think about it and then you cut it off. And then it smells on the street of the 17th of June, everywhere after such delicious ... So, and now watch out, here it comes.
And it is placed on a ball bearing, the victory post. Then they turn from a couple of Hanomaks with chains that always run in a circle, at the star, in a circle, and then turn the skewer in a circle, you know, like a tractor. They always run in a circle around the column and turn the skewer through it.
Autocorso, so to speak, around the skewer. Autocorso around the skewer. The big five.
Place four, uh, pickled cucumbers.
Oh, absolutely. We were in my third place.
The sauerkraut… So actually it was the tomato, but I made a move on it. Yes, but what kind of sauerkraut is it? Is it the Silesian Gurkenhappen? Wow! The Silesian Gurkenhappen! Is it a big… I think the sauerkraut is the strongest. No, but do you know these small, already cut... Schlesische Dillhappen! No, they're called Schlesische Gurkenhappen. But do you know this honey with honey?
Honey mustard. Dude, we've become such an old boomer podcast right now, right at the moment. And you know what? And we're putting Tommy on with it. Soon you'll be 50 too. Schlesische Gurkenhappen, ein großes Glas ist immer bei mir. Blöd, dass das das Einzige ist, was von Schlesien übergeblieben ist am Ende.
Ey, wenn ich mal eine Fee im Wald treffe, dann wünsche ich mir so ein schlesisches Gurkenglas, was nie leer wird. Ist das nicht genial? Das ist ein Wunsch.
By the way, I recently saw an Instastory of Moses Pelham. I actually wanted to write to him, we have no contact, but I wanted to write to him because he made an Instastory of how he puts cucumbers in himself.
I think that's awesome.
And Moses P., so the Moses P., who forced Kraftwerk into his knees, and Stefan Raab broke his nose, puts cucumbers in on Instagram. Very good.
Then next year he can present his cucumbers here at the Christmas party. Olli, please stand in fourth place. My fourth place, and then you will be in trouble again. But it's a thing from my childhood that I rarely buy myself. But when I suddenly discover a hard roller on such a nice evening bread plate ... Ah, stop it.
No, to be honest, a piece of hard cheese. You do that after pumping.
Yes, the pumpers always eat that. But really, a hard cheese and now it comes on a black bread with butter, on a real Harry's stone oven black bread or whatever it's called. These packed things.
But you can only eat one. After that it's delicious and then it's disgusting. But you have a choice of cheese anyway. You make cheese decisions that I can't understand. You eat Roquefort, right? No, and Roquefort and blue currant cheese and so on. Yes, exactly. But that's really crazy. Gorgonzola. I'll stay at home today. Cheese varieties.
No, unless you find a partner or a partner who also thinks that's cool. Then I could rub you in with it. Who likes hard cheese? You're my man, dude. We're gonna party later. Some people like it. Are there women who like it? Diversity. You're always such a friend of diversity. Do you hate that again or what? Exactly like last year. I wanted to show my feet because I wanted to be diverse.
And you're like, feet are not diverse.
Show it to me. You have the easiest shoes of us two. Show your feet again. Tommy and I have similar shoes, but mine has a costume picture in it and yours is a dress. But you have this Peter Altmaier problem, you can see the skin immediately. Peter Altmaier in my talk shows. Yes, because I wear old pants. At some point you become an old Tommy. You don't want to know that at the age of 20.
But at some point you think to yourself, should I buy new clothes or should I wear the old ones that I have already paid for? And then you decide for the latter and then you realize that they don't really fit anymore. Can you actually meet at the shop in Cologne? Definitely. On the sofa at Zalando you can meet me while shopping, dude. That would be awesome. Let's socialize a bit.
It's an opportunity for us to get to know each other. You brought us together, now you don't have to be surprised. And to be honest, the risk is much greater that I take a podcast with Tommy than with El Hotso, to be honest. So, think about it. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
I hit Felix from the atlas.
Do you remember how we got together? You with Joko, me with Klaas.
That's right. Uh-oh.
How? Yes.
I first had a podcast with Joko. What was it called? It was called 2 after 4. Because the show ran at 4 and we were 2. Not bad. Brilliant. 2 after 4, right?
And I had two old bunnies telling about the Führer, from the past, with Klaas. And then he noticed relatively quickly that television was obviously more lucrative for the two of them. And we were also a piece of cake for the two of them. Sandbag on the career hot air balloon. And now they're looking at each other.
Now they're looking at each other stupidly in the tube with their little one-man business that they opened up there.
Now they're looking at each other with their stupid Apple and Granini advertising.
Now they're looking at each other with their million contracts, stupid from the West. No, where was I? Oh, place 4. Place 4 is for me the big five things that are not allowed on a good German dinner table. The small, thin, French mini salami. And that's something like, for example, Aoste or what is this French company called with this yellow packaging? Yes. Yes, exactly. In France, oui.
Oui. Oui.
I'm sure you've already asked a German tourist. But of course they are not served from the packaging, but they are like salt rods. In the past, salt rods were always put into the glass and today these thin mini salami are also used. And also different directions of taste. For example, there is walnut, pepper, chicken. And there is always this white mold on the outside, that is very important.
Chicken is orange.
Exactly.
But the French mini salami is my number four. Are there people who only eat one of them? You can't stop eating it when you've eaten some. In the cinema. And you think, in the cinema in Cologne, in the residence cinema, there is no popcorn.
In the cinema there is no popcorn.
That's such a strange USP. What's that supposed to mean? There are no nachos in Zoo Palace either. That's almost true anyway.
What? That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Oh, oh, break for a second.
I was at the Zoo Palace and asked if I wanted nachos. And they said, we haven't had them since 2012. Since the big nacho war?
Yeah, the big nacho burrito they had back then. I don't know, the cheese kind. The nacho burrito. The cheese sauce had a blockade, I don't know. But Sonnengerät, if I would wish for something from you again, do you remember how happy you were on your birthday when you got the drum from me?
Yes.
I would be happy if an original, authentic Natsu machine with this cheese thing, with this thing, if that would be at my birthday at home.
Real talk, I thought about what to give you for your 50th birthday. I really thought about it, because we've already made great gifts. I've also made a great gift and thought, okay, now we have... A weapon, right? So Olli gave me a weapon, I gave him a picture of Horst Jansson.
Horst Jansson gave me a picture, really an original.
I gave Felix a ball from the Qatar World Cup. Yes, you young people. And then I thought, what am I going to do this year? And I really searched a lot until Michael from Spotify came at some point. And then he told me what they thought for you. I can't top that anyway. And I was thinking about whether I should buy the Terminator 2 Flipper.
My most beautiful gift is our 11-year-old group hug. You know what, when I was in America for the first time in 1996 in New York, I brought a VHS cassette to all my best friends. That was full hype back then. 30 minutes of accidents on a swing bar. And back then, there were compilations. 30 minutes of just accidents on a floating bar. Very bad things on a VHS cassette.
And I bought 20 of them and gave them to my friends. Mega expensive. Mega expensive. Were you a rich kid back then? No, but I had saved a lot for this trip. I was alone there. Did you fly over the Concorde?
No.
So not that I knew. I probably would have known.
I didn't buy the flipper either. First of all, it was very expensive. And above all, because I didn't know when I gave you the thing, if it could be set up at all or if there were any difficulties. You don't have the wings in my apartment. No, but not because of the space, but whether it fits in your family concept, you know.
Because a flipper is, then it means afterwards, the flipper is between me and you, I'm taking off or something, you know. But wouldn't you have been happy about it? Terminator 2 would have not reacted. I would have been really happy. Yes, you would have been really happy. Too bad.
That would probably be the most beautiful gift I've ever received.
I feel like Angelica Calvers.
But you know what? I was so blessed with my New York trip. You're back. You'll get lost from me. I'll come over to you and massage you.
I'm afraid that when I'm 50, Spotify will be bought up by Microsoft or Elon Musk or a completely different company. And that that won't matter at all. You'll get a software voucher from Deezer. Is Deezer still there? I don't know if Deezer is still there. Don't say it so loud. Well...
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I always let my young fans lick my feet under the stage. That's why it's so important to me.
And then I go back, and then the fans go back to the audience and say, yes, I did it, I put my feet down.
Arne from Keyboard once wrote on Facebook that he doesn't like it, but then Olli ghosted it and Olli... He was nagged by me.
He was fucked with money so he could keep his mouth shut and work again, so he could keep the machine running.
You could have noticed Olli's foot care videos that were on YouTube for years, now you see them in a completely different light.
Now you look at it as a whole.
But Olli Schulz, there has to be a foot care salon under the stage. For years, the riggers, they all knew that he always wanted to do foot care. Always when Olli, when solo, when Giesbert played solo. Yeah, then he's down there, he's got his socks on and his... And you're laughing at those fish that snagged Hornhaut or at those fans that he met. Exactly. We're laughing.
He's doing everything with his lawyer.
Did he do everything with his lawyer? Did I do everything with the lawyer? Is everything okay? I always let myself show the passes, of course.
Dear greetings to the lawyers out there, also to Rammstein. The thing is, what do you want to do? So the lawyer of Till Lindemann is sometimes my lawyer. You have to... You know what?
The lawyers are not even the ones I attack because they have to do their job. No idea. So it is. It is still an absolute power demonstration. The more expensive the lawyer, the better.
The more powerful the lawyer, the better. Not the more expensive, the better. I can't confirm. No, the more expensive, the louder, I would say. But not the better. The big five. There are more. There are more.
We were talking about the big five things that shouldn't be missing from a German dinner. This one. This one. Your third place, Tommi. Right?
Yes, third place. Marte was fourth. And then I pulled the cucumber. You don't think about it right now, do you? Yes, exactly. The note app. But how do you proceed when it's already there? I always have two or three more things with me. Sometimes when we don't feel like it, we say, okay, let's leave place two, but today we have the time. Because people are supposed to donate.
festundflauschig.betterplace.org Yes, that's why we're here. Hard-boiled egg. Oh. Yes, that's part of it. Freshly cooked or from tomorrow? No, freshly cooked. Boil eggs in the evening? That's warm, right? You're right, that's nonsense. But also not those disgusting ones that are painted. No, but rather... Where the color goes through, that's so pink. But a very short look into the audience.
Hard-boiled eggs in the evening. No, not always, right? It's this typical dinner that you rarely eat. Yes, but are they warm then? Warm? There's a lot of nodding.
I shake everyone's heads. But I see the reaction in the audience. This is also important to the audience with the dinner plate.
But you eat an egg different in the evening than in the morning. Yes. Yes, right? Also so hard. I don't eat eggs in the morning.
No, only in the morning. I mean, I don't eat eggs in the evening. Not like that either.
No, no, no. Like this sentence, so sustainable in these gardens. I don't eat eggs in the evening. Eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs. I don't eat eggs in the evening. Imagine, 66 million years ago you were walking through the steppe of Saxony-Anhalt. Cut! You're sitting in a room as a skeleton, while someone says, I don't eat eggs in the evening.
Luckily, Brachios had such a small head that he could have realized what would happen to him one day. Who knows where we are one day in 66 million years. Do you like mustard eggs? Tommy had lunch with me yesterday and I recommended him the mustard eggs.
And I have to be honest, I just tried the sauce for a moment.
I was so jealous.
I would have liked them too.
You dipped your potatoes in it. I dipped my potatoes in his plate. Like Michel Friedman at Schlingensief at night. Yes, exactly.
Like Friedman at Schlingensief, I dipped myself in it. And it was really so delicious. Sausage eggs, one of my top five dishes in the world. That's also awesome. And were the eggs fried?
Yes, that was a bit strange, but also really awesome. But watch out, Tommy. The community is skeptical. We have a very... Because of me or because of the eggs? Yes, watch out. Crab salad, freshly cooked egg. Dude, what went wrong there? So in the sense of, is he now completely detached from us normal people? That's what I read out of it. But I also had cucumber and tomato.
Yes, but you didn't read it out, I took it away from you beforehand. Yes, I already said cucumber. And I have tomatoes. How is this here? Is this a competition? No, you have these honey cucumbers that are in cubes. No, I said spice cucumber first. Okay. No, you have ... okay.
I'm still giving him a heart here.
Yes, I think it's nice. That he got the question read out. Jan, Tommy and Olli ... Is that Fred's or X?
I don't know it all.
I haven't been there in a long time, Jan. I always do it on Twitter. Jan, Tommi and Olli energetically talk about top 5 sandwiches. It's a bit like a WG party before the others come.
So, WG parties we were at.
Before the others come. Okay. Okay. So, third place for you was... Do you live in WGs?
I have lived in WGs. Me too. Nonsense. No, he lived in WGs. No, stop it. That's such an urban myth to make yourself important. Nobody wanted to live with you in a flat. The thing is, without evidence, on the basis of my witness statement as a self-employed person, you say, that doesn't exist.
If you were a flat partner, he would have reported you to me for a long time and puked. Watch out, I even lived in a flat five. Yes, here, in a flat five. With whom?
For two years. Count them all.
Do you have any contacts? Carsten, photographer, Max, Wolfgang, Matthias and Stefan. Actually Steffi, Werder fan.
Carl Klüßchen, Carl and Gabi die Pfote, right? And Timmy the dog. And Timmy the dog. Timmy the dog.
Anne and George and Julien and Dick. In which city? In Bremen? Dear psychotherapists, if you want to learn something about projections, then listen to this podcast. How many WGs have you lived in, Olli? Tell me.
I've lived in a few WGs. I've always lived with one or two people at the same time.
You must have been one of those who left WGs. On the sofa, you were a weirdo lying on the sofa.
My flat in the 90s, I lived with the singer of the Bronx Boys. Oh, that's true. Oh, stop it. With Trubel. Oh, crap.
You lived with the singer of the Bronx Boys. Two years. Oh, stop it.
Because that's the party flat. Gärtnerstrasse 21. That's not true. That went down like that.
Never. You lived with the singer of the Bronx Boys. Wild flat time. Do you notice how I just do what you did to me? Yes, it's totally original. Just say, no, it's not true. How powerless you are against it. Of course it's true, that's what I'm used to in the flat. In the flat five.
And so I had the room... Everyone knows that my stories are true, Jan. Yes, yes. Did we already have third place?
What was that again with me? The boiled egg. Susanne is just writing to me. Max, excuse me. Susanne even knows me, Max. He's a star, Max. He rapped Esperanto at Freundeskreis later.
That's not true. My third place. Yes, please. Definitely. And that's special interest again. And you don't know that because you're all a little younger than me. But back in Hamburg, my mother, if it's true, when it was Sunday, there was pork roast with jelly and crust on it. Who likes that too? Fried pork, nice salt, pepper, then this brown chili and then a piece of crust on top.
Who still knows that?
Trinze Randolphs back there.
One person. But that is, you have to say, the audience who also lived in your street.
A real fan camp, right? That was at the Kleine Frau, in the Gazellenkamp-Ecke-Basselweg, at the Kleine Frau. But explain the product again. It's not like Sülze, but... Yes, it's like Sülze. This brown jelly, don't you know that? Jelly and pork roast. It's just jelly. It's the rotten... I don't even want to know what it is, it tastes great. You're a little mean right now.
And you eat that on bread, right?
Yes, with bread. Don't you know it? I don't know how to roast pork. You roast pork on a plate, then you put some jelly on it. Cold, as a topping. Yes, cold as a topping, but you put two slices on it. And then you put some jelly and then crust on top. From the same animal? Or from your own crust? No, pork crust. And then you bite into it. This is the ultimate breakfast bread.
But we're having dinner. We're having dinner. Yes, dinner is also great, dude. At 7 in the morning, so hasty on the way to work. Honestly, there's everything in there that the body needs. Like with Babybel. Babybel would be my second place, you fucker. Really? Yes. Hello, we're also at my third place. Babybel. I wanted to end my monologue for a moment.
Yes, please. I know you don't know it anymore, but there's the Kiezbäcker in Silbersackstrasse on Reeperbahn. And he also has pork roasts with jelly rolls. And there he goes and says, nice and sweet greetings from Olli Schulz. We would like a good pork roast with jelly. And then you get that too. And I will thank you for this experience later.
Then you will all go to the gas station and buy me a messi package. Really, because it's really the best. With butter?
With butter. Okay.
Okay.
I'm at my third place. Yes, a nice brown bread. My third place is a good butter, and that's a different one than in the morning. And that's the Le Président butter in a plastic cup, where you always think that it lasts much longer than it actually does. And then you open it and the crystals have already wandered from the inside out.
And that's such a strange salt crust and it quickly puts moisture into it. Like an old Solero. Yes, exactly. But a Le Président butter, which would also be bought knowing that it is a special butter, which is served in a special occasion, i.e. an evening bread, that is on third place with me. And to be honest, it was very rare with us, because it was always much too expensive for my family.
Salty butter in general. Yes, salty butter. But salty butter was always smeared on Nutella rolls on vacation, butter on it. Salty butter! In France or in Spain it always existed. How was the butter policy with you? Was it outside or in the fridge?
In the winter it's outside, in the summer it's in the fridge.
So you recognized the seasons at the location of the butter?
Well, it's like that. In the winter it's colder outside. And in the summer you have to... Don't you have a butter bowl?
In the past, at home, we had the butter outside in a ceramic bowl. But I always thought it was a bit disgusting. In the summer? No, in the summer they put it in the fridge.
Sure, sure.
But it was actually like that in Bremen, because it's not that hot in Bremen. Do you still have these egg mopeds in your fridge, where you can put the eggs in there? Yes, I also use them, to be honest. Really? Do you have an ice cube machine? Yes, of course you have an ice cube machine in your fridge. No, no, I take the things for it. People eat the cream salad for dinner. I can't even get it out.
No, I understand. So you don't have it, but then you put the eggs in the ice cube shells. No, no, no, no. Where the eggs come in, I put the water in there. And I have that as ice cubes. How do you call that, the freezer thing? Freezer. But in my fridge there are no coolers where you can put water in. It's just holes where you just put the eggs in. That would be funny if I did that.
Yes, strange fridge.
Albtraum Essen. No, very briefly. Are you a friend? I want to know. Mozzarella, pesto, tomato bread. That's the final opponent. Don't you like it? I hate it. Yes, because of the tomato. Because of the tomato, because of the mozzarella and because of the pesto. That's three shit words. That's three. I think mozzarella and all these soft cheese varieties taste like nothing. I have no idea.
But you always have the feeling that it's healthy. But that's bullshit. That's bullshit. That's shit. Big Mac food. It's mozzarella and what are the others called? Camembert. No, no, burrata. That's how I hear the word. Such an important name for cheese. It should just be called slime. But burrata, that sounds like it's a very special kind of calf from the cow.
Hello, hello, hello, be careful. It's jelly from dead animals. Burrata.
When someone says, we have an authentic burrata, I want to know what a fake burrata looks like.
No, no one says that, because burrata is not feminine. We have a burrata, not a burrata. Really? Yes, of course. Not a burrata. Not a mozzarella, but a mozzarella. What do you want now?
That's old thinking. And that's why I hate the burr bubble so much. Because you, because the cheese is male for you. You are hated by the Vogue bubble. No, you are hated because you do pinkwashing. Because you know, yes, quite honestly, with the mozzarella and so, with the burrata. Yes, and then I saw my documentation about these skyscraper builders. There were a lot of Native Americans, i.e.
indigenous people who did this.
Let me, no. So, let me get back to the microphone.
Oh shit, I was just about to say something.
Greetings Oliver, my dear! Happy New Year!
Oh shit, hello. Well, Klaus?
Not Klaus. My name is Kalaus. Kalaus! Rennebeck-Berkelein. May I introduce myself for those of you who don't know who I am? I'm the manager of Böhmermann, the fucking whore. I almost said whore son, but you don't say that anymore. You say whore fuck.
Well, Kalaus, how was it? Kalaus! How was the change of year for you? I fucked a lot and drank a lot, I'll be honest with you.
At the expense of my guardian. Everything on account of Böhmermann.
And were you away? Were you at home in Cologne or where you live?
Cozamoj.
Cozamoj? Nice. I think you can have a good time there, right?
You're a little king with my salary, honestly. The king of Cozamoj.
There he comes again.
Let me carry him around with five of these. On a mustard.
Okay, but you already pay the people who... Yeah, yeah, with a smile. Nice.
Dude, I wanted to talk to you briefly. It's about PR stories for Böhmermann. And I was thinking about whether I, now that Cora Schumacher is out of the jungle camp, whether I somehow try to get them to do something heterosexual in order to close the target group of the heteros, the alpha-heteros a little more. What do you think of that?
You want to bring Böhmermann to the jungle camp or what?
And how are you? Are you okay?
I'm actually doing quite well. I'm actually watching the Dschungelcamp, third day. I was really disappointed, Klaus. I don't know, you noticed it, only 40 minutes of broadcast, because after that NFL was shown. I was really excited. I'll tell you something honestly. Germany wants to watch the Dschungelcamp and not fucking American football.
That only interests a few asocial people with low-level cars. But to be honest... To be honest, it's not a sport for Europeans. I can talk about it with you.
Yes, I think it's completely right. And I also don't understand that these bubble people who have driven themselves from the left-wing bubble to the demonstration, that they don't use the momentum to get a decent demonstration against the NFL on their feet. If you had that in one wash, you would have done it.
AfD, NFL, both with an F in the name. So. And you know what? You could have done that in one wash, because NFL and AfD... Similar! Similar! And to be honest, they're trying this and that, and RTL is making a big mistake. I'll take over for a moment, I know that you're the man of the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do it, do it, we'll go down in between, tell us.
Yeah, I think that's great, because then I can use the platforms that you offer me, that Jan can't offer me anymore, because he sold his ass in the Vogue scene. That's why it's great when you show up. I'll just say it for a moment, RTL. You fuckers. We want to see jungle camp. And this money, the money you get from the NFL, it's not enough to excite the people. That's not our speed.
I understood the rules. Yes, you have to understand the rules to see what a great sport that is. That's chess with people. That's really great and stuff, but it's also kind of boring. And it's running way too often. And turn on a new show. Or do it online. But don't do it on TV. Stop shortening the Jungle Camp. That's shit. So, Kalaus is coming right now. I'll turn it off now.
No, but I think, to be honest, the Jungle Camp is so good this year. So good. And the last few years, I've always said, don't do it. But I would say, next year is the time. I'm working on it nicely for next year. You have to give it a lot of gas.
If you want to make it fit in one year, the Jungle Camp. He has to do some shitty stuff. How do you want to destroy him?
I'll plug in two or three wrong information. Then he can put his weird woke journalist on it. And then there's a huge blamage afterwards on TV. For me it's just important that I'm the companion in the Hotel Imperial. And then there's nice caviar from someone's navel. While he has to eat the goat's tail. Speaking of goat's tail, I have a little gift for you, Olli.
On the internet, at Kaleido, I ordered you a doodle sack goat. I said, come on, I think that's really awesome. Honestly, awesome instrument. You can't learn that in our music school here in the Rhineland. I wish that instead of guitar and drums, a goat as an instrument would come in mainstream.
To be honest, I think it's just so sick. I've already told that in the last show. Then Jan also did that in his Instastory, because he also likes to shock. With that he still shocks, you know? Yes, that's embarrassing. The Greens don't attack anymore. Embarrassing. But you can still make jokes about animals.
Yes, they can't defend themselves. Animals can't defend themselves.
They can't defend themselves. But if he was against the government, he wouldn't do anything. No, he wouldn't dare. Against the government he wouldn't dare anymore, right?
No, he's a government idiot, he's a state clown. Honestly, I wonder how long Spotify is still doing that. Because they have to see where they stay.
Spotify is actually, to be honest, pretty state-confident, isn't it?
Yes, still.
Yes, still. Do you have any other, do you think there are any rights in power?
Yes, but Spotify, whoever pays the most is in power. That's how it is in the stock market. You're right a little bit. Yeah, that's the way it is. Where there's money, money makes the music.
You, my dear, I just wanted to say, I'll hit you again right away. I just wanted to say, I think it's nice that you, you know what, Kalaus, I like your thoughtful side. That it's not just always out front and not just always against the Vogue bubble, but also that it's like... It's a bit Darwinist.
But we have to see that we as Germany continue to stick together. I thought that on the weekend too.
We both or who?
Yes, but a million people, that's already been a lot of people. I thought a little bit about whether I have to think about it again, whether I have to adjust myself a little bit programmatically, politically. Because I thought they were gone. That no one would be worth it anymore. On the weekend I got a little scare. Because I am now ... AfD is nothing for me, but I love Werte Union.
I think Hans-Georg Maaßen is quite good.
And what about Sarah Wagenknecht? Isn't that something for you? She's also good. She's also good, isn't she?
Yes, I also like Martin Sonnemann. From a party, I think they're funny. They're always drunk. I also like them.
But they don't bring anything to the German people. I mean, they're more of a fun party, aren't they?
Yes, well, satire can quickly become serious. I don't understand that.
You like Sonneborn, but you don't like Böhmermann, your own son-in-law?
Yes, he just brings in the money. Sonneborn doesn't bring in any more money. He has to let himself be fed by the European Parliament.
He gets paid well, though.
Yes, by all of us.
Well, don't let it get political.
Take care, Olli. Bye. You're a guy. So, you can put the gloves back on. Thank you.
The big five. That's bullshit.
Tommy, let's get to your second place. Yes. What did I have now? I had... Tomato, cucumber, crab in the notes app.
One question in between. This fridge song you had. He always had a song like that, fridge, cucumber coming in. Did you publish it? Where did you have the song? You once had a song like that, cucumber coming in.
Did you record it? No, the great thinker of our time, Icke Hüftgold, took snippets from our podcast and made a hit song out of it. Because we said it would be perfect. Concentual? Or did he do it over and over again? No, we already connected with him. And then we performed it for the good cause on Bierkönig.
The same fate, the same fate. I sang eight years ago, she was tight, she was tight, she was English. That's live, by the way, Olli, right? It was stolen, right? Someone stole it from me.
Shit, and now? Your second place. It's decadent again, but wildflower cheese.
Dude, let's see who has the best contract at Spotify.
Wildflower cheese crumb salad? It's ultra, ultra awesome. I'm not talking about it being my normal dinner. Tobi, come back to normal people, honestly. He has your gouda from Jaa. Come back, man, come back. You're on the street.
In one year you hang out with Jeff Bees on the yacht, just to be honest.
Wildflower cheese? Do you know wildflower cheese? Who knows wildflower cheese? Look how many hands go up, they're all rich. Yes, but they're all manicured hands with French ... with candied berries.
There's no such thing in the East.
Wildflowers were forbidden.
Wildflowers.
Wildflowers weren't allowed in the past. But you've eaten wildflower cheese. Or you can eat the rind. That's for me. Please give me something on a Sunday in Berlin. No incentive if I can eat the rind. That's so awesome. There are people who only buy cheese. Look, you can eat the rind. You don't have to cut it off. But you're such a slug.
You know wildflower cheese. I don't know wildflower cheese. Let's break it down here.
Really, really not? I don't know the picture. But good, good, good. Please, above all. Everything comes, I like everything and that brings everything to my feet. To my image. To your image or the picture of you as a person in my head. Olli, your place is two. My place, I'm back on it. Yes, you're back on it. What about bread? Yes, I thought about that too. Should we leave it out now?
No, I would agree. Everyone makes one bread?
Everyone makes one bread. A really great gray bread with a fat crust. Sourdough? Sourdough. Double baked. Double crust. Look at this. Pimples from the duck. To be honest, I'd leave any duck for that kind of bread. Double crust, and there are different shops like Butter Lindner or whatever they're called in bakeries. And in every bakery, the double crust is always the king's bread.
What's the best bite when you have bread in front of you? The penultimate, right? No, the penultimate actually. When you eat the crust with the edge and it mixes into a melange in your mouth.
It's like with the doner, it's the penultimate.
Yes. And the cigarette after the doner was always the best, unfortunately. Cigarette after doner. I had to stop smoking with doner when I quit smoking. To be honest, a lot of people have to stop with coffee. I have to stop with Döner. Döner and sex. I have to stop with both.
Döner and sex. That's a hit song. No, that's my biography. Which pros would write recommendations for your biography? They're all dead. No living ones. Jan, your place two. Also bread.
Baguette?
It's actually baguette. Really? It's baguette, not too thick. Because with baguette, when it's fresh, the problem is when you bite so hard that you break your tooth. But the nicely thin baguette with such a nice cheese, delicious ham, great le président butter, there are also other butters, but that would be my top bread.
I would have said something like that, but I also think a sourdough bread with walnuts in it. Walnuts, walnuts, how do we say it? But he also wants a little bit, he wants to... But now... As if walnuts would be such a thing now. No, no, of course not. Don't do it like that. Yes, yes, and as if disturb eggs are something special now.
These are the eggs from the Schörner and... He wants to drink into the Rich Kid. Yes, yes. No, so I can understand everything. But here the internet writes, Tommy, how is the business going? Wildflower cheese. That's good, that's good.
So it came to me a bit like the good Hamburg, where you grow up with a horse under your ass. And what I also find beautiful, where I just don't belong, but what I find beautiful. And then the doctor said, socks and shoes off and pants off. And then I stood in front of her with a shirt and underpants and so down around the neck, so underpants of course.
And then she looked at my feet and said a sentence, Mr. Schulz, don't be scared, but you have degenerated well-being feet. That was... And then I thought, how come? Yes, due to the foot position and that we don't have to dig here anymore, that we're wearing shoes in the meantime. But we have, you too Jan, we have degenerated... I guarantee I don't have degenerated well-being feet.
My feet are still, with both legs, my feet are in the working class. Really.
That's what you wish. But because we don't have to farm like our ancestors, we have degenerated well-being feet. With misalignment, with sprains.
What is degenerated? Is it so soft and with French nails? Or what is degenerated well-being?
I don't know if you noticed, but you have French nails growing because the feet...
A small tattoo overnight.
A small tattoo, like a kobold. The middle one on the right foot has a cap on. One has a hip bag and spits out drugs. I want to ask you to come to Hamburg and get your feet checked. You can do a lot with your feet. The position of your feet is also about the position of your bones and legs. It says a lot about you. It was quite interesting.
In any case, I went home with the information that I have degenerative well-being feet.
How did you get home? Did you use your feet or did you push your hands on the gas pedal?
No, I can still drive a car.
In any case, that will accompany me a bit this year. Degenerated well-being feet. That's what she just said. She wanted to sit in Flo's ear. She wanted a podcast with such a diagnosis.
I can always ask her if she wants to join. If she can recognize by remote diagnosis on your feet whether you also have degenerated well-being feet.
Mr. Schulz, you have a podcast tongue. I'm sorry. What? If you do too many podcasts, you'll get a podcast tongue at some point.
Naja, da bin ich gestern Abend in Hamburg gewesen und konnte nicht einschlafen. Hab einen kleinen Bericht gesehen, den wollte ich euch unbedingt empfehlen. Der hat mir so ein bisschen den Glauben an die Menschheit zurückgebracht. Also ich hab unfassbar schlecht geschlafen. In einem guten Hotel, wo wir beide auch schon übernachtet haben.
Gute Hotels, aber schlecht geschlafen. Das ist das Leben ab 45. Man kann sich die Hotels leisten, aber schläft schlecht, weil man so früh aufsteht wegen der scheiß Kinder. Ja genau, man hat den Verschlafrhythmus einfach komplett im Eimer.
Wenn man denkt, einmal auspennen ist nicht mehr, da ist jetzt eine andere in Ruhe. Auf alle Fälle, am Weltspiegel gab es einen Bericht, den habe ich mir in der Mediathek angeguckt und den könnt ihr euch auch angucken. Der handelt von einer Brücke, einer Hängebrücke in Peru. Hast du gerade, ist irgendwas los bei dir, Jan? Nee, ist nichts los. Wieso, warum, was soll los sein? Oh, nothing at all.
Nothing at all. Nothing at all for you, Jan. I don't have anything at all. There's nothing at all. In any case, for all the others, Jan can't listen so well right now. I would like to tell you very briefly.
The Lego is broken. The big five. Drum roll. Place one of the big five. Things that are not allowed to be missing in an evening meal. Presented by Tommy Schmidt. Now it's coming. You're on. Now you've teased it so crass. That would be the bread. Excuse me. Really now? Oh God. What are we doing now? Oh no, oh God. Meltdown, meltdown. Advertisement. Advertisement, short advertisement.
You have to switch to advertising for a moment. The moment when Gottschalk held his speech and the nation sat in front of the TV and opened their mouths and could not believe what was happening now. And then Mike Krüger drove him out. Exactly. No, come on, take a look at your list. For your running gag, it would of course be good if I would say something like falcon mustard.
But I think flaxseed is okay, right?
I love flaxseed.
If I had said it on my own, I would have never reacted like that. But flaxseed is okay, because how else do you want to eat cheese? If not with flaxseed or pear juice or with sweet juice.
You have two episodes a week, right? Be honest. When I played in Switzerland, people came by and made a cheese tasting for me. Cheese is so rich in facets, Jan. Now only this stinky cheese. There is a young cheese, there is an eight-month-old, six-month-old, there is a three-year-old. These are people who do it with love.
It somehow hangs in a smoker chamber or something, the cheese, and it gets older and older. That's something special, you can taste that too, these crystals. What was added to it? How much milk? How much salt? Where is it? In which region? This is a story, really. You can't mix everything with fig jam. No, not here. It's delicious.
But not here.
In this little can, this little glass, what's it called? I mean, red witch. Do you know the cheese? No. It's a simple one. Red witch? I like it, for example. It's a solid cheese for me. But what else did we want to add? By the way, I'm just reading.
According to the big five, two viewers were hungry and just ordered food from the delivery service. Wildflower cheese. Ordered food in the Sauria hall. The delivery man will be here soon.
If anyone here has something from my sweets plate.
Where is the little, where is the little cracker that I ordered something to eat? Please pass it on to the back, yes.
What did you order? Yes, I would like to know that too.
So that's probably where people are right now. Michael will bring the cutlery in right away. And then we'll eat here, from the delivery service or Volt or something, or Flink, whoever. Someone ordered something to eat, in any case. We have an eye on you. So come on, Olli, you're in first place. Am I in first place? Yes, Tommy doesn't want to anymore. No, Tommy made bread.
What kind of bread did you say? Walnut bread. Walnut bread. That's your number one? Yes. Yes. Okay. Now you. What's your number one? Toffee bread is also awesome.
I'm going to go with my number one again. But a nice silk. Dude. I don't know.
A nice one. It's totally crazy. You realize what kind of household you're coming from. A lot of jelly was processed. A lot of sticky stuff. Little teeth. I don't have any teeth.
I lived the first nine years of my life with my great-grandparents. They were very old people. And one of my first childhood memories is actually how I'm around a pot with my great-grandmother and my great-grandfather in a crab pool. I come from simple circumstances, where a lot of fish market was brought with me and where a lot of innards were eaten. I ate everything, kidney, head, pig's head.
I know my way around this area. Innards, tongue. You also have to say that back then, before you were all so softened and started eating either no meat at all or only the good stuff, an animal was really taken apart. Everything was eaten. From this dino, everything ended up somewhere on the plate at Dr. Professor Vogel. And to be honest, You don't know exactly.
What I mean to say is, I think it's pretty correct to eat in the inside when you decide to eat meat. If you're a guy who thinks, oh, I only eat chicken breast fillet with champignon sauce, then you're not a meat eater for me. Then you're not a real meat eater.
But how is it when you eat sausage? Because that's what you eat too. You don't know. If you're a Viennese now, that's exactly what you eat. Head, eyes, kidneys.
I don't eat pork head soup anymore, because once I had one on a sandwich, and there was a whole wimper of pork in it.
No, it's from the meat specialist. From the meat specialist.
There was a whole wimper in it. That was so blatant. French nails were already in it, all from the pork. But a nice sausage on bread, on a crispy sandwich in the evening and I fall asleep like a little bear. Without brushing your teeth? No, not at all.
My place, one of the big five things that should not be missing from no dinner is, it is actually nothing German, but it has now been included in our culinary rites. May I guess? Yes, please. Hummus? No. Okay. I would have thought so. He doesn't know it.
He doesn't know it! He doesn't even know what it is, Humus! We haven't arrived in Cologne yet.
That's true. It is, it is, attention, it is the olive, of course. Yes, of course, in row one, yes, of course, it is the olive.
Yes, thank you.
A short mini-excursion, not long, just for me. For me it's an olive. Only an olive when it's green, when there's garlic in the lard. So it's a bit seasoned, a bit spicy, a bit chili. Do you have anything against black olives?
I don't know, if it has to be green. Do you have a problem with that?
A lot of black olives are actually colored. They're not really black. What? Yes, they're repainted. With sugar color or with... Black facing. Like Thomas Gottschalk. Like Thomas Gottschalk back then.
Black olives are green olives that do black facing. Honestly, do something about it with the Neo Magazine.
Hey! Don't let this evening be for nothing. Please donate to festundflauschig.betterplace.org. festundflauschig.betterplace.org. We're at 300,000. I want to see money on my account for this evening.
Oh, we're suddenly back at 50,000.
Guys, we've returned the donation. Hey, did you just make my joke again?
Yes.
Okay, yes. I have 300,000. He had a better point. 50 is funnier. The thing is that you haven't brought it over impulsively enough.
I wanted to save your joke. Well, that's definitely what they were. The big five. Defined by Böhmermann and Schultz.
Defined by Böhmermann and Schulz and of course by our guest Tommi Schmidt. Nice to have you here today.
I think it's great that you were there, Tommi. Really.
Back to the Manfred Krug diary. What you presented to me here in Hamburg. I didn't check that either. He had a strong relationship with Hamburg because he shot all of his crime scenes here. And the crazy thing is, I think it's interesting, these diary entries. I think it's hard how he fights against the addiction to fat. He ate a lot. And when he was on a diet, he lost a few kilos.
And then he ate the fatty leg, a huge thing, and six potato puffs. So he must have eaten a lot. He was often in Hamburg, and I find it totally exciting, because many of these names that he drops, 1998, 1999, they are still in the television business. Or you still know them as I started. Doris Heinze, for example. Right, right.
The legend who wrote the scripts under pseudonyms himself, that came out at some point, it was such a NDR scandal.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's right. There are a lot of things, so that's the funniest thing anyway, how he talks about people who still exist. Are you already with this, with Russia, with the power transfer of Yeltsin?
I'm now in the middle of 1998. And now it's coming in 99, I think. But it's interesting how informed he is. Also these old relationships with the GDR artists. Also how, after he left the GDR, the GDR artists either solidarized or opposed him. And how that worked out until 1999 and he wasn't good at talking to some people. And others thought it was totally cool.
That Erich Böhme didn't realize that something bad was being written about him and says, maybe Erich Böhme didn't write it, but he didn't stop it. And that's why he's not in Talkin' Turm. He's really a very idle, injured... Insanely idle.
He reminded me a lot of Helmut Kohl. I have the Helmut Kohl biography of Heribert Schwan. I don't know if it's banned now, but it's still available on YouTube as a listening book. It's also fun to listen to it, because they sit there all day in a ping-pong... From whom is it? Heribert Schwan, the biography of Helmut Kohl, which is strangely available as a YouTube rip-off.
And it is also often thematized how they meet in Ludwigshafen in Oggersheim, in the ping-pong cellar. There they record, and then the tape recorder runs with it. And afterwards, after the book was finished, there was a huge legal dispute with the widow, who, I think, is still in touch with Michael Kohl Richter, about what can be published from it. Because Helmut Kohl, I'll put it this way,
has, like Manfred Krug, very much carried the heart on his tongue.
There is also, and that's the exciting thing, in the third part, probably still a hard discussion. I heard so much about it at the meeting with the publisher. There were two publishing people and they said, they are currently preparing the third part of the daily bus, where it must also be discussed what should stay in there and what shouldn't.
Sexism?
He also had a very big sense of justice. That's what you have to say about a lot of things that he talks about. You can't do that. And that's what I think is nice about it. You can't see this person as good or bad. Only when you see something like that, I think you see a complete wilderness of someone with his shadow sides, but also with his sharp-minded mind and his good sides.
And that's what's interesting about it.
Yes, I think so too. And if you were to put it into the present time, there would definitely be one or the other place where he would probably be bent differently today. So there are already approaches, not conspiracy theories, but... That he just says things that you say when you're over 60 as an idler actor. And I thought that was really cool. That was before the internet.
So I'm now at 1998 and there was the internet and he's always talking about his Zuse. He's a total technology freak.
When the computer came out in 96.
He then brings his Otti, his wife's computer. The Petra with the Marlene, his beloved ones, they live next door somehow, but Otti doesn't know anything about it.
The first time they came in, she was sitting there somehow and Otti came in and then he sat there with his beloved ones. They probably had such an apartment, it was somehow connected, two apartments. And she was so shocked that she ran out and didn't see the baby anymore, which was also sitting there. And then she later realized that there was a baby sitting there. And that's really a crazy story.
And that's why I have to tell it again briefly. I thought it was insanely good to say that about Fanny Krug. The daughter of Manfred Krug. The daughter said, the true heroine here, in all these stories, was my mother.
Absolutely.
And that's the way it is. You only notice it when you hear him talk. And when you see this guy, you know if there wasn't someone there who would keep the family together. And yet it was like that again. And that really touched me. On the other hand, it also touched me very much that in the end there was a song where she sang a duet with her father and his voice came from the tape.
That's of course... At your performance, right? At our performance last Saturday. And that's just the way it is. Your love for someone... is not always dependent on the good and bad as a child, but it is your father and son. Somehow I had so many emotional feelings through this evening and even afterwards.
And it was also funny that Christa Maria Schädlich and Fanny Cook had a short argument on stage. ob Herr Manfred Krug jemals in Hamburg gewohnt hat oder immer nur im Hotel. Frau Schädlich meinte, nee, der war immer nur im Hotel, so gerne mochte der Hamburg nicht. Und Fanny Krug, nein, der hatte später auch noch ein Apartment gehabt, der wollte nicht immer im Hotel.
Und dann hab ich das kurz unterbunden, weil die beiden so auf ihre Meinung beharrt haben.
If you want to hear this diary, you can do that. There is the diary of Manfred Krug, read as a audiobook on Spotify. Ich bin zu zart für diese Welt is the second part. There is already a first part. It's called, I have to search it out briefly. I collect my life together. I collect my life together and I'm too tender for this world.
And the exciting thing I just wanted to say is the deal with the boulevard media, who were always behind him and wanted to know all the little stories. He had an accident and was afraid that the Bild newspaper would get it out.
And unlike today, where some windy guys slide into the DMs from the Springer publishing house or from other, rather lower media, it was like that at the time that they really made bellmen. He probably walked by at home. He described it quite nicely in one sequence. He already knew that the Bild newspaper was standing in front of the door.
Then he reported to the door bell with a Hungarian accent and pretended that it wasn't the bell of Manfred Krug and denied himself with a Hungarian accent. There he had a healthy distance to the boulevard media. He gave interviews, he hated awards, I can understand that very well. And also how he got an application by letter. He communicated a lot by letter and fax.
Apparently exactly the window where Morrissey also came on the fax trip in the 90s, who also communicates by fax. And also like that, you get a fax by hand from Doris Heinze, she offers you a script and you just write shit on the fax and send it back. back to the fax, to the same number where it came from. All such cool moves that you don't even know anymore today.
And then he got a letter from a Bild newspaper reporter who was doing some kind of interview with him. And he said, yes, thank you very much for your request. I paraphrase now. We can do that, but I would be happy if you were in the interview, which I would really like to give you, because I finally want to unpack, if you would wick my shoes.
So normally my wife does that, but if you would do that, I could publicly claim that you are my absolute favorite wick. And then three days later, Otti sent the letter to the Bild newspaper. She was very shocked, as expected. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
And then you also notice that there is probably a woman who is suspicious of such things.
Manfred, don't call the Bild newspaper man your favorite wanker. Short side story, I came in here and Olli got his nail clipper out. The second thing people ask me is, can we do a selfie? Olli, can you do it with your feet? Can you do it with your feet? That's the second question. Why did you get your nail clipper out?
Because we're in Hamburg and I'm just a guest here in my hometown.
Are you only allowed in Hamburg to get your nail clipper out?
In Berlin it was forbidden for me. Because the THW came, the technical aid came by. At night, a police station operation and Olli Schulz was locked up. They thought the M-Taler station exploded when their feet were undressed. But I thought with The Boys, Shirin David, smart. Comes totally smart over there.
Smart. Really.
I think so. And Bill and Tom? But luckily you didn't see. Bill and Tom anyway. Legendary. And Ronan Keating with his... Dude, how does he look?
He's probably 75. He looks so good. He looks good, I think.
Yeah, he looks really good. I have to say, I like it somehow. I like it somehow. So it's a good one. Giovanni Tamparelli. Here is also not bad. What? What's your name? Giovanni Zamparoni. Exactly. Or? So similar. It is the little boomer art edition. We are here. Now he starts googling my name. Zamparella. Or? Or? Now, honestly, Giovanni Zamparella. Is that really wrong? Giovanni Zamparello.
Zamparella. I really don't know, man.
The big Zamparello is back. What's his name? Giovanni Zarella. Giovanni Zarella. Just Zarella?
More Zarella? Every woman knows the name Moa. Christine Moa. His wife's name is Janaína Zarella.
The famous Brazilian Janaína. Janaína.
Do you remember Yana? Bananen Willi, Willi Moa, you know what? And then when there's a family... Mozzarella.
Mozzarella. I think it's totally awesome how Giovanni has repeatedly emphasized that his parents had one of the first pizzerias in Germany. And he comes from a gastronomic family. But they sold dinner.