Dhru Purohit Show
Want to Maintain Youthful Skin At Any Age? Top Dermatologist and Skin Cancer Expert Shares his Favorite Skin Tips and Tools and Busts Major Myths Around Skin Damage with Dr. Teo Soleymani
Wed, 02 Apr 2025
This episode is brought to you by Bon Charge, Pique Life, and Fatty15. When it comes to looking younger, sun exposure, and skin cancer, the research and advice can be overwhelming, leaving many of us unsure of what to believe. With endless skincare products and trends flooding the market, it’s hard to know what’s truly effective, worth the investment, and safe for maintaining a youthful glow. Today’s guest joins us to break it all down and share what really works. Today on The Dhru Purohit Show, Dhru sits down with double board-certified dermatologist and skin cancer and reconstructive surgery specialist Dr. Teo Soleymani to discuss research-backed skin protocols that can improve your skin and reduce your risk of skin cancer. Dr. Soleymani breaks down the difference between mineral and chemical sunscreens, what the data really says about sun exposure and skin cancer, and the top therapies for reducing wrinkles, acne scars, and sun damage. He also shares the most cost-effective devices and strategies for achieving a more youthful appearance. Dr. Teo Soleymani is a nationally recognized, double board-certified dermatologist and fellowship-trained Mohs Micrographic and Facial Plastic & Reconstructive Surgeon. A Stanford-trained physician and former clinical professor at UCLA, he specializes in the treatment of complex, high-risk skin cancers and sun-damaged, aging skin. He now leads California Dermatology and Mohs Surgery Specialists in Pasadena, CA, and continues to contribute to academic research and innovation in dermatologic surgery. In this episode, Dhru and Dr. Soleymani dive into: Sun exposure and its impact on the skin (01:11) Why traditional dermatologists recommend avoiding sun exposure (04:37) Can sun avoidance and low vitamin D levels be harmful? (13:42) Traditional sunscreen: benefits vs. potential harm (16:18) Physical barriers for skin protection (19:42) How skin color influences sun exposure tolerance (24:29) How to maintain healthy skin and prevent premature aging (27:57) Seed oils and their impact on skin health (34:50) Immune-suppressing conditions and medications (43:00) Tanning and spray sunscreen rankings (47:00) Antioxidants in your diet and key supplements for skin protection (59:50) Screening measures for long-term health and protection (01:10:00) The impact of alcohol on the skin and the dangers of grain-based alcohols (01:17:00) Red light therapy, microneedling, and radiofrequency: what works? (01:21:40) The most effective device for skin health (01:29:00) Cost-effective strategies you can implement immediately (01:36:45) Skin cancer prevention and screening (01:48:00) Also mentioned in this episode: Sun Powder For more on Dr. Soleymani, follow him on Instagram, LinkedIn, and his Website. This episode is brought to you by Bon Charge, Pique, and Fatty15. Right now, BON CHARGE is offering my community 15% off; just go to boncharge.com/DHRU and use coupon code DHRU to save 15%. Right now, Pique Life is offering 20% off the Radiant Skin Duo plus a free beaker and frother when you go to piquelife.com/dhru. Fatty15 is offering an additional 15% off its 90-day subscription Starter Kit. Go to fatty15.com/dhru and use code DHRU to replenish your C15 levels for long-term health. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the key factors for maintaining youthful skin?
Dr. Teo Soleimani, welcome to the podcast. You're one of the world's foremost experts on all things skin, including helping people catch skin cancer early. Knock on wood, nobody here today listening is dealing with that. How to preserve your youthful skin into a later age and the top things that are worth it and not worth it when it comes to our time and investment.
So it's a pleasure to have you here. I'm excited to jump into today's conversation.
Drew, thanks for having me. I don't know if I feel that I'm worthy of those words, but I appreciate it. I love what I do, and I've dedicated my career to that. So thank you for having me. It's going to be a lot of fun, a lot of things to talk about. I know skin's always hot, and that's why I chose that as a career, but thank you.
One of the things we're going to do on today's conversation is we are going to tier rank. some of the top things that people are concerned about when it comes to their skin health or are wondering, is this thing real or is it bunk? We're going to bust some myths that are out there.
So for those of you that are listening on audio, you can watch the video on YouTube, but you'll still be able to follow along if you're listening on audio. So we're going to jump right in. One of the first things we're going to go into is the sun.
Help us understand the sun and give it some context because the thing is on social media today, depending on which dermatologist you follow, and most of them would say, we have to be aware of the sun. We have to watch out for the sun. The sun is out to kill us. And if you're not careful, you're going to end up with skin cancer super early.
Talk to us about the sun and then give us a ranking on our system from S to F. Okay.
Oh, this is, if you couldn't hit a bigger category than the sun. So. I love the sun. I'm a skin cancer surgeon. I'm a dermatologist. I see a lot of patients with sun-related conditions. It's essentially more than 80% of my practice. Do I think we need to be afraid of the sun? Absolutely not.
And my colleagues on the East Coast will probably want to kill me for saying this stuff, but I'm just not one to want to dress like a beekeeper and go outside. Now, just like with anything in life, too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. You know, if you are outside and you are getting sunburns constantly, that's your body's way of telling you, hey, you're killing something.
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Chapter 2: How does sun exposure impact skin health?
At best.
Okay, got it. C, at best. So why'd you put it as a C and not a D or an F?
Well, we know that when people use it, it does provide benefits that outweigh the risks of blistering sunburns so it's it wants to do the right thing the problem is the way it's formulated the way people use it is not perfect so i can't give it a drf because their traditional sunscreens are intended to do their job they're intended to provide protection the biggest problem is
The cosmeceutical industry has played a big role in making a lot of subpar chemicals that are, you know, panda sunscreen. The second problem is most people don't even put on enough. And the third factor is we know that other forms of sun protection, shade, shelter, supplements, actually have a better role of protecting your skin than sunscreen. So...
If you pick the right, there's a lot of asterisks to that. If you pick the right sunscreen, if you use the right amount on your skin, then it would be a B or A or I probably wouldn't put it as S. But there's a lot of chemical sunscreens that are not great for the body. There's a lot of...
emerging or smoldering data suggesting they actually may be even deleterious to certain hormone messaging signals and endocrine disruption and even some of the breakdown products are carcinogenic themselves so that's a huge problem number two is most people don't put on enough to get the spf that's written on the bottle itself so i don't know about you but i ever since i was a kid till almost adulthood i didn't know i had to put a shot glass worth of sunscreen on you know crazy
I put a little bit on and I assumed that was it. Like that's what my parents told me, you know? So C, because I think it's well-intended. It's trying to do good, but it's not a B or an A because there's better forms and the stuff out there, a lot of it's crap, man. A lot of it's not great.
Well said. Well, you brought up a really important point before we get into some of the super controversial things that are related to the skin, including seed oils and antioxidants, alcohol. Those are all coming up, so stay tuned. But you brought up an important point, which is that for as long as human beings have lived, and you look at some of these more traditional societies that are used to
a lot of sun on a regular basis societies in maybe some of the aboriginal societies in australia places in africa like where i'm from in kenya india you know they'll often use physical barriers And I'll have you explain what that is as a way to protect themselves from being out in the sun, which sometimes they have to be because they're working outside during the day and doing other things.
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Chapter 3: Can sun avoidance lead to health risks?
And I'm not saying tanning means you're healthy. But there's a reason when you come back from vacation, you have a little bit of a vacation glow. It's your body has rested. It's tend to calm down. Usually we get a little bit more sun exposure and things like that when we're on vacation, especially summertime vacation. The problem with that is being able to measure that.
And no doc will be able to measure your exposure to sun and say, hey, Drew, you're healthier because you're getting some sunlight.
Yeah, important point. Okay, let's get into some of the controversial things that are out there. I hinted at this a little bit earlier, but one of probably the most controversial things in health right now is the topic of seed oils. You have institutions like Harvard University saying that not only are seed oils not bad for you, but they're not pro-inflammatory.
They're not things that are going to increase chronic disease risk. Places like Tufts and their nutrition school that are out there, everybody has different thoughts. I've shared my own thoughts, I've shared my own bias. I tend to not feel great when I'm having a lot of seed oils than I'm exposed to.
I know that I'm not cooking with seed oils, so if I ever have them, it's gonna be in eating out, which obviously tends to be higher calories, a lot more ingredients that are inside of that. But tell us about seed oils and their relationship to skin, premature aging. How do you look at it and where would you rank them on our tiered system?
What's below F? Can I put it below F? So, so many things to talk about in this. And a lot of the institutions have outside funding that affects their studies. Unfortunately, institutions are not immune to bias. We see this all the time. Also, just, and this is anecdotal, but almost every single person will agree with this. When you go to Europe, you can eat
The stuff that you cannot eat in the States, five days a week and you feel fine. The amount of industrialized products in our foods is monumental in the States. It's a huge problem. I tend to be on the camp that thinks seed oils should not be in our diet. Seed oils are pro-inflammatory.
I notice and we see this when you eliminate this in skin conditions that are inflammatory, psoriasis, eczema, their skin improves. We actually put patients on anti-inflammatory diets. We did this up at Stanford. I do it in my practice. When you get rid of inflammatory foods, including seed oils, you can get an improvement in actual quantifiable skin disease. I have psoriasis myself.
Every time I have a junk diet for a couple of weeks, my psoriasis flares and it's reproducible. So I know it's not just a one-off. I can consistently make it flare with my diet and improve it. Now, will it go away? No, but it's one less added drug or medicine that I need to use to cure something that I'm trying to cure.
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Chapter 4: What are the pros and cons of traditional sunscreen?
And how were they taking it? As a supplement? As a supplement. Okay, got it.
A thousand milligrams a day or 500 twice a day.
And is it true that I've seen skin products that have it now in it? Yeah, yeah. Do those work? Do those not work?
There's topical products. So they help improve complexion. They help improve redness from the same anti- But it's probably hard to get that same dosage. Yeah, yeah. And the correction, the DNA correction that is needed is from the inside out. So the oral supplements.
But we know patients who eat the full rainbow diet, the antioxidant diet, the anti-inflammatory diet, they have a reduced risk of skin disease. They have improved...
skin tolerance immune tolerance of the skin we know that they're they're inflammatory things like eczema and psoriasis tends to improve so antioxidants s you cannot go wrong nobody will ever say hey you ate too many good foods you know i love it yeah i love it all right we got it on s yeah i want to give a little shout out to a project that you're involved in yeah
You actually have your own supplement that's there. First of all, I love any entrepreneurs that are out there that are creating evidence-based products, things that can help people, that can work. So I have no problem giving a little plug. But I also want you to rank it. So tell us what we're ranking and what the product is.
I'm biased. This is a product called Sun Powder. It's the first daily drinkable skincare supplement. It's the first supplement of its kind to protect and repair your skin from the inside out. I describe it, and the simplest way to describe it is think of it as AG1 for your skin. Got it. And I'm biased.
I will rank it as an S, but I will tell you why I would rank it as an S because any other dermatologist, and you're going to see some dermatologists in the near future talk about this across the United States, would rank it as an S as well for several reasons. Number one, there's nothing out there like it.
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Chapter 5: How do physical barriers protect the skin?
And that becomes a problem, especially the next day, because we tend to wake up and our body's trying to overcompensate by holding on to the water we peed out. So you wake up with puffy eyes, that hangover look, there's an actual biologic change related to the alcohol that was consumed in your skin that makes you look like , which is the hangover look.
As a result, we tend to overcompensate for that dryness by producing more sebum, so more oil, more likelihood for breakouts. Our skin isn't that happy as a result of the secondary changes that occur from alcohol's mild diuretic properties. So that's number one. Which is why you always look funny or you have puffy bags under your eyes is the fluid shifts that occur from alcohol consumption.
Number two, the acetaldehyde is a toxin. And some populations, particularly Asians, have no ability to break down the acetaldehyde, so it collects in their skin. There's this thing we incorrectly call the Asian glow, and there's a reason for that. The acetaldehyde actually accumulates and dilates blood vessels in the skin.
There used to be what was thought as the sailor's nose or the drinker's nose in which patients would have really big vessels on the nose and the nose was growing, the pores were growing, the nose itself was growing too much. And they thought that that was due to too much alcohol consumption.
We now know it's mostly due to a condition called rosacea or rhinophyma as a result of rosacea, but there's some truth to that. Alcohol and acetaldehyde accumulate and vasodilate the skin, so you looked flushed, you looked redder. You can even get that surprised or shocked look when you're drinking and your face is flushed, and that's because your body doesn't like the metabolite.
There's no good amount of alcohol that is safe or healthy for your skin. We know it's a consequence during surgery and procedures. It makes you bleed more. It slows down wound healing. So if you're undergoing any sort of cosmetic surgery, reconstructive surgery, or even a cosmetic procedure, we avoid alcohol because of its blood thinning properties and bruising properties.
So there's a lot of problems with alcohol and not very many good benefits. Now, Do I enjoy a glass of wine or a cocktail? I do. Do I try to avoid it? I do. I think if I pick my alcohols, I tend to pick ones that at least come with some theorized benefit, which tend to be the red wines and things like that. But for skin, I put it as an F.
I heard you say on another podcast that in particular grain-based alcohols are the ones that you are most worried about people over-consuming.
Yeah, yeah. Grain-based alcohols for several reasons. One, the volume we tend to consume is a problem. And number two, it tends to be inflammatory. So grain-based alcohols will cause an inflammatory shift in our diet and our skin's immune response. We know that it flares certain... Skin diseases, eczema, psoriasis will get worse when patients are constantly consuming grain-based alcohols.
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Chapter 6: What role do seed oils play in skin health?
The rest of it actually is pooped out and you can measure it in the stool, the amount of collagen you consume and you measure the stool output and most of it's in the poop. So you don't need as much as you think, but collagen is great. The other problem with collagen is it's a large molecule. It doesn't cross the gut very easily.
So forms that are broken down, we call them, you know, collagen peptides or hydrolyzed collagen peptides are much more bioactive and absorbable. It's actually one of the reasons why that's the form we have in sun powder. But you want a form that's easily absorbed and you also want to have it with vitamin C because you can consume all the collagen in the world.
But if you don't have a form of vitamin C, most people, you know, have a diet that will, you know, have the daily recommended amount, you can't remake that triple helix. The way collagen works when you consume it is your body breaks it down into the letters and then your body will reform the sentence that is the collagen triple helix. So you need that vitamin C. But I love it. Great product.
I take it myself.
Fantastic. So we talked about the lifestyle things. Just as we're winding down over here, touching back on the screening aspect. Obviously, find a dermatologist, somebody that you can go to. It's a non-invasive exam. you know, they're going to check you out. Is there anything else that you can do?
Or if people have done their, cause you mentioned that so much of skin cancer is genetic family history, hereditary. Is there anything in our typical genetic screenings? A lot of people have 23andMe, they have other stuff. Is there anything there that people can be looking at to look at their risk of skin cancer?
So that's a, so I want to digress and make a couple of points on this. Family history, genetic history is one of the largest implicating factors in skin cancer. Now, this doesn't mean that Dr. Soleimani said sun plays no role. Go outside and burn all you want. Obviously, be sun smart. Don't burn. Just be cognizant of the fact that too much UV will increase your genetic predisposition.
But that doesn't mean we should be sun avoidant. So you can enjoy the sun wisely. That's number one. Number two, and I emphasize this all the time because I see such bad cancers and things in patients that could have been caught earlier. You know your body better than any doctor does. You know your intuition, your second brain, which is the nervous system in our gut.
It's the same reason why you get like a weird feeling when something bad is about to happen. Your gut intuition will tell you that something is not right better than any doctor. So if you feel like something is off, don't be blown off by your dermatologist, your primary care doc, your orthopedic surgeon, what have you.
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