Dhru Purohit Show
Don't Let The Scale Run Your Life: The Power of Focusing on Body Composition
Mon, 03 Mar 2025
This episode is brought to you by Fatty15 and Blueland. When it comes to weight loss, most people rely on the usual strategies—cutting calories and exercising more. But what happens when these methods don’t work? And how do we ensure we’re losing fat, not muscle? It’s time to rethink our approach. Instead of just focusing on the number on the scale, we should prioritize body recomposition—building a stronger, healthier body that supports longevity and resilience as we age. Today on The Dhru Purohit Show, we bring you a special compilation episode featuring Dhru's conversations with leading experts on why body composition is more important than your scale weight. Sal Di Stefano, Mind Pump co-founder and fitness expert, explains why body composition matters more than the number on the scale. He breaks down the most efficient and sustainable ways to exercise and highlights the crucial role muscle plays in overall health. Sal also reveals why lasting motivation for a healthier lifestyle must come from within. By adopting practical, sustainable strategies, we can boost energy, improve well-being, and achieve our fitness goals—all while promoting longevity. JJ Virgin shares her top strategies for weight loss, muscle building, and vibrant aging, emphasizing the power of resistance training for sustained fat loss and the importance of tracking personal goals for long-term motivation. Sal Di Stefano began his fitness journey at just 18, quickly rising to prominence as a trainer and opening some of the largest big-box gyms in the California Bay Area. By 24, he launched a wellness-focused fitness studio that combined expertise in hormones, nutrition, gut health, and fitness training. Today, Sal is a highly sought-after expert known for his practical, easy-to-apply insights. As co-host of the Mind Pump Podcast—the world’s top fitness and health podcast—he’s appeared on hundreds of leading shows and frequently speaks at events for trainers and health practitioners. JJ Virgin is a renowned health and fitness expert, bestselling author, and prominent media personality. With over three decades of experience in the field, she has become a trusted authority in nutrition, weight loss, and wellness. She is the author of four New York Times bestsellers. Virgin actively contributes to the health and wellness community through speaking engagements, online programs, and her podcast, Well Beyond 40. In this episode, Dhru and his guests dive into: Why weight loss matters less than body composition (1:08) Reframing our approach to exercise and the body's adaptation to fitness (12:41) Hacks to help with fat loss versus weight loss (22:43) Tracking movement and progress (26:10) Testing body composition and the importance of prevention (29:27) Tracking food intake to optimize protein, fiber, and sleep quality (33:09) Aging powerfully and the new normal (44:01) The misconception about bulking up and the reality of muscle building (47:56) Also mentioned: Full episode with Sal Di Stefano Full episode with JJ Virgin Virginia MacColl Oldest Ninja Warrior episode This episode is brought to you by Fatty15 and Blueland. Fatty15 is offering an additional 15% off its 90-day subscription Starter Kit. Go to fatty15.com/dhru and use code DHRU to replenish your C15 levels for long-term health. Get a clean home while keeping a clean planet with Blueland. Right now, get 15% off your first order by going to blueland.com/dhru. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Why is body composition more important than weight?
Hi everyone, Drew Proat here. So many of us have been conditioned into valuing the number on the scale above many other markers of health. And it's no wonder why social media, traditional media is flooded with weight loss advice, much of which is unhelpful or unsustainable.
We're inundated with unrealistic beauty standards that especially go after and target women, if we're going to be honest, that focus on being skinny and petite instead of focusing on being strong. And these are pervasive. and our culture, and this all coexists with the population experiencing a serious obesity and metabolic crisis.
Most of us have taken in a lot of unhelpful messaging around the importance of weight, and we haven't been taught that it's actually our body composition that offers a clear indication of overall health and fitness. Weight is important, but body composition is even more important. So in today's compilation episode,
I talk with personal trainer and Mind Pump Media co-founder Sal DiStefano, a world-renowned health and fitness expert, best-selling author, and prominent media personality. I also chat with my friend JJ Virgin about why body composition is more important than body weight.
Let's listen in first to my conversation with Sal DiStefano as we discuss the benefits of strength training for looking and feeling your best.
having kind of gone deep into your content over the last month, as I've been anticipating this interview, is that both for men and women, but in particular, I had shared with you that my audience skews female, that if you are really serious about wanting to lose a little bit of weight, and that obviously fits into the conversation of body composition, because anybody could lose weight just by not eating for a short period of time or just way too much fasting, which is not good for you.
But if you're serious about body composition, which the fat loss being a part of that and building muscle, if you're not strength training in some capacity, and we'll go through that, I'd love to hear like if somebody's just started, okay? If they have a little bit of experience, what's the best approach to that? We'll get to that in a second.
You're really doing yourself a disservice because your only levers that you're pulling are... you know, the diet side of things and maybe a little bit of stress if people are paying attention to that as well, right? You're doing yourself a disservice because you're not taking advantage of the fact that muscle does all these things that you talked about before.
Yeah, so let's talk about weight for a second because people are so focused on the scale, especially women, Because we've looked at that number and that number to us means something. I used to love telling people this. I'd say, I want to lose weight. And I'd say, okay, what kind of weight? And they'd look at me like, what are you talking about?
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Chapter 2: What are the best strategies for fat loss?
And it sounds like it makes sense, right? Like, okay, if I'm trying to lose weight, trying to burn more calories, I should just pick the form of exercise that burns the most calories. The problem with that is it completely negates a very important factor with exercise, which is exercise gets your body to adapt. And those adaptations mean a lot. They mean a lot, okay?
So if I pick a form of exercise that just gets me to burn a lot of calories, let's say running, that's phenomenal. Now I'm burning a lot of calories, except, My body's adaptation process is gonna say this, we need more endurance, we need more stamina, we need to conserve more calories. We gotta be able to do this activity well and more efficiently.
That's what your body is trying to do with that form of exercise. So you build stamina and endurance, You don't need much muscle at all for stamina endurance. In fact, you need very little muscle for that. So what your body does to become more efficient or slow down its metabolism, lower its calorie requirements, is it actually starts to pare muscle down, especially when you combine it
with low calories. And the studies are very clear on this. You diet and you run a lot or you diet and you do tons of let's say calorie burning activity, you see weight loss, but a significant portion of that weight loss is muscle. Now there's a misconception that you're burning the muscle for energy. That's not what's happening.
Chapter 3: How can tracking movement improve results?
Your body doesn't like to burn muscle for energy except in extreme situations. What it's doing is it's just paring it down. It's becoming more efficient. This is why, and by the way, everybody, almost everybody who's ever tried to lose weight has probably tried that approach. They've experienced the following, that initial 10 pound weight loss, and then hard plateau. What happened?
I'm doing three days or four days a week of this activity. I'm eating this low calorie diet. Why did I plateau? What happened? Well, what happened was your body adapted and learned how to perform and operate on the lower calories and on the calories that you're burning with that activity. And it's very, very intelligent on how it adapts to that. There was this incredible study that was done.
They actually went and studied a modern hunter-gatherer tribe, the Hadza tribe. I'm sure you're familiar with it because people talk about it all the time. And scientists went down and studied them, and through some sophisticated testing, were able to figure out how many calories they burned on a regular basis. Now, remember, these are hunter-gatherers, okay?
So they don't have TVs and iPhones, and they gotta go hunt their food, they have to gather, they have to get water. They're far more active than the average Westerner. What they found at the end of the study was that they burned roughly the same amount of calories that the average Western couch potato burns. And you think, well, how's that possible? Well, that's how we evolved.
If humans burned six or 7,000 calories a day as hunter-gatherers, we wouldn't be here. It is very hard to find calories in nature until we learned agriculture and we live in modern, now it's easy, calories are really easy to find. But if you go out in the wilderness and you gotta hunt for your food and gather your food, you're not gonna find 6,000 calories a day. Their body's adapted.
So that's essentially what we're doing when we apply the wrong strategy to try to lose weight. Our bodies quickly adapt and nothing happens. And then what we do is we try to do more of the same. Well, I guess I need to do more exercise. I guess I need to cut my calories even more. Then you lose another seven pounds and you plateau again.
And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how unsustainable this is. Well, what do I end up at the end of this journey? I lost 30 pounds, but I'm eating 1100 calories a day. And five days a week, I'm on the treadmill for an hour. Most people don't want to do that forever. Or if they stop for a month, everything comes back on. It's miserable. Miserable.
So what we should do with our approach with exercise is this. What form of exercise, forget the calorie burn while I'm doing the exercise, because that's inconsequential anyway. What kind of exercise is gonna do the opposite?
Like what form of exercise is going to teach my body or encourage my body to adapt in a way where it becomes less efficient with calories, where it wants to burn more calories on its own, where I don't have to constantly move to try to make this happen? Well, that's strength training. Nothing does it like strength training. The process of building muscle and having the extra muscle itself.
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Chapter 4: What role does strength training play in body composition?
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Yeah, you know... We, the fitness space, social media now, but when I was a kid, it was magazines that we would read. It glorifies workouts like they're battles, like you're going to war and you're beating yourself up and you're crawling out of the gym. And by the way, if you don't do that, well, then your workout wasn't effective, right? we have to reframe what exercise really is.
Now, is there value in beating the crap out of yourself in the gym? Maybe, sometimes. I mean, I think mental fortitude is important. We probably need more of that nowadays. But that's not what makes a workout effective at all. Exercise is simply a signal that tells your body to adapt in a particular way. So let's use another form of adaptation as an example.
Let's think of our body, our skin's ability to tan or darken when exposed to the sun. Would it be advantageous to get a tan by going outside and sunburning yourself every day? So if I go out, I need to go out there and burn really bad. That's how I'm going to get a suntan. No, of course not. If I did that, not only would I not get a tan, I would cause lots of damage.
It would be miserable experience and I probably wouldn't want to do it anymore. Well, for some reason we approach exercise this way. You're gonna come into the gym, you've never worked out, or maybe you have a little bit of experience, and you're gonna crawl out of the gym, or you're gonna be so sore that you can't move for a few days, and yay, that was a great workout.
No, all you've done is created a lot of damage and you've completely overcome your body's ability to adapt. Recovery and adaptation, by the way, are not the same thing. They're somewhat related, but they're not the same thing.
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Chapter 5: How do we effectively measure body composition?
Chapter 6: What are the misconceptions about muscle building?
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Yeah, you know... We, the fitness space, social media now, but when I was a kid, it was magazines that we would read. It glorifies workouts like they're battles, like you're going to war and you're beating yourself up and you're crawling out of the gym. And by the way, if you don't do that, well, then your workout wasn't effective, right? we have to reframe what exercise really is.
Now, is there value in beating the crap out of yourself in the gym? Maybe, sometimes. I mean, I think mental fortitude is important. We probably need more of that nowadays. But that's not what makes a workout effective at all. Exercise is simply a signal that tells your body to adapt in a particular way. So let's use another form of adaptation as an example.
Let's think of our body, our skin's ability to tan or darken when exposed to the sun. Would it be advantageous to get a tan by going outside and sunburning yourself every day? So if I go out, I need to go out there and burn really bad. That's how I'm going to get a suntan. No, of course not. If I did that, not only would I not get a tan, I would cause lots of damage.
It would be miserable experience and I probably wouldn't want to do it anymore. Well, for some reason we approach exercise this way. You're gonna come into the gym, you've never worked out, or maybe you have a little bit of experience, and you're gonna crawl out of the gym, or you're gonna be so sore that you can't move for a few days, and yay, that was a great workout.
No, all you've done is created a lot of damage and you've completely overcome your body's ability to adapt. Recovery and adaptation, by the way, are not the same thing. They're somewhat related, but they're not the same thing.
we talk a little bit about recovery and that's important, but there's also our body's ability to, uh, overcompensate become better at than with, uh, withstanding the same stress next time. Okay. So let me explain what I'm talking about. Recovery is healing. Adaptation is changing. It's overcompensating.
It's, I scratch my skin, I cause a little bit of abrasion, my skin heals over, that's recovery. Adaptation, I develop a little bit of a callus, okay? you can overcome your body's ability to adapt by just getting your body to want to heal, okay? Beat yourself up at the gym, you get sore, soreness kind of goes away, go back to the gym and beat myself up again. No room for adaptation.
I'm literally on a hamster wheel. Recovery, damage, recovery, damage, no adaptation, okay? Some people take it even further and go beyond recovery. What we're looking for is the perfect amount of stress on my body to allow for the adaptation process to occur. Now the question is, what is that perfect amount of stress? Well, boy, that's different for everybody, okay? If you don't exercise now,
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