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Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Eli Patel, Editor-in-Chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. We have a very special episode today. It's become a Decoder tradition every fall to have Verge Deputy Editor Alex Heath interview Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg on the show at MetaConnect. And there's a lot to talk about this year.
The company announced new developments in AR, VR, and the fast-growing world of consumer smart glasses. alex it's good to have you thanks for having me good to be back you got to try on some prototype ar glasses you got to sit down with zuck tell us what's going on here
Yeah, so the big headline this year out of Connect is Orion, which are AR glasses that Meta has been building for a really, really long time. Some important context up front is right before we started this interview, we had literally just demoed Orion together. I think I'm the first journalist, the first outsider to do that with Zuckerberg on camera. That's on The Verge's YouTube.
But yeah, we had just come fresh off that demo and literally walked in the podcast studio and sat down and hit record. So- It was fresh on our minds, and that's where we started. Orion is very much the story of AR as a category. It's something that Meta hoped would be a consumer product and decided towards the end of its development that it wouldn't be because of how expensive it is to make.
So instead, they've turned it into a fancy demo that people like me are getting around Connect this year. And it's really meant to signify that, hey, we have been building something the whole time. We finally have something that works. It's just not something that we can ship at commercial scale.
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