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Consider This from NPR

When it comes to harassment, are federal judges above the law?

Mon, 03 Mar 2025

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People who work for the federal court system don't have the same kinds of job protections that most other Americans do.A nearly year-long NPR investigation has found problems with the way the courts police sexual harassment and bullying...and a pervasive culture of fear about blowing the whistle. A warning to our listeners, this piece contains a description of sexual assault.For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Email us at [email protected] more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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What challenges did the Alaska law clerk face in her job?

0.149 - 12.938 Ari Shapiro

In 2020, as the coronavirus pandemic began to shut things down, a recent law school graduate started a new job all the way across the country in Alaska. She accepted a coveted post as law clerk for a federal judge.

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It's kind of like a unicorn. It's a position that follows you for the rest of your life. It's on the top of your resume. You know, people pay attention to it, especially a federal court clerkship.

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The clerk hoped this job would jumpstart her career. She didn't know anyone else there, only the judge.

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The judge was the HR department. The judge was my boss. The judge was a colleague. The judge was everything. He had all the power.

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He started testing her boundaries early on.

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It started immediately, the inappropriate conversations. There was a lot of talk, you know, about the judge's personal relationships, about sexual relationships.

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She says she thought it was part of her job to listen to the judge and help him with anything. He was going through a divorce and he began to text her constantly to the point where her phone felt like an electric leash.

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You know, I never had respite from being just a few text messages away from him. It was constant. It was during work. It was after work. It was all the time.

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That pressure built. In the summer of 2022, things got worse.

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