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Chapter 1: Who is Eugenia and what does she do?
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Eugenia Fernandez de los Ronderos Jimenez.
That's me. That's too long. Too long. I always have trouble in the customs when I try to get to see my family in the U.S., but yeah.
Okay, so tell me how to pronounce your name. I want to make sure I say it correctly.
Eugenia.
Eugenia, I am Conando.
Encantada, Conando.
Let's see. Tell us, Eugenia, tell me a little bit about yourself. Where are you right now in the world?
So right now I'm in Madrid, Spain, from my house. And I work here as a physician resident in a hospital.
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Chapter 2: How did Eugenia meet her fiancé Sean?
Yeah. My fiance, he's American. He's Irish-American. Sean Dempsey. Yeah.
I like how your accent dropped on that. Wait, your fiancé is Irish-American and his name is Sean Dempsey.
Here in Spain, people call him Chong Chang. Seeing if they see it written, these people cannot really pronounce his name.
Yeah, well, I'm sure anything's okay with Sean.
Yeah, he goes by Juan sometimes when he gets tired. Yeah, guess what?
The Irish, we just don't care. As long as we're welcomed in and someone has something to drink and something to eat, we're fine.
You know, call me whatever you want.
So tell me a little bit. How did you meet this guy?
We met in 2016. He went to study abroad. He came actually to my hometown, Seville, in southern Spain. A lot of Americans go to study there abroad, actually. And we fell kind of in love, but it didn't make any sense. I was 19, and I was studying medicine. After a year, we met again. And that's how we decided, like, if in one year we couldn't meet anyone that fit that, it was worth trying.
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Chapter 3: What cultural differences exist between Spaniards and Irish Americans?
He was the one.
I don't think you should go around telling him. I waited and when it just no one came along. You'll do. You'll do.
He's fine. He's he's got used to Spanish way of being in a relationship with Spanish women. So he's fine.
OK, well, what are the differences, say, between a Spanish woman and an Irish Catholic guy? What's the thing that what's the biggest difference between you? How have you had to change him?
That's tough because I think we actually have a lot of things in common, like Southern Spanish people and Irish people. But probably like the drinking culture, it sounds weird, but like we can start drinking at 12 in the noon, like 12 p.m. And then drink at 4 a.m. after being the whole day with our friends, eating and everything. But
He and you guys, like, struggle with that type of culture when you get smashed in 30 minutes.
You guys? Well, wait a minute. Hold on a second. Let's clean up a few things here, Eugenia, if that's even your real name. You're saying that you guys can start drinking at noon and you can go to 4 a.m. and it's no problem, right? that you can tolerate it, you're fine, you paced yourselves. And are you saying that, what does he and his family do that's different?
Just, I mean, it's less, yeah, start earlier, way earlier, like breakfast early and finish before lunch. And maybe, okay.
Sean may have a problem. Yeah, this might not be an Irish thing. Yeah, I don't think it's that. I mean, so he's starting at breakfast and then at noon he sort of passes out.
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Chapter 4: What are the challenges of Public Displays of Affection (PDA)?
Oh, okay. We thought you meant he went to rehab and suddenly we weren't laughing.
And it wasn't a joke.
But now that we've learned he hasn't gone to rehab, we think it's really funny again.
Language barrier.
And now it's fantastic. Now it's fun when you can laugh about it. What about, okay, drinking aside, what are other things that maybe were different about the two of you? Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I think the biggest main thing at the beginning of our relationship was PDA. We don't have that in Spain or Europe. What do you mean? You don't have a public display of affection.
You don't show affection publicly or you do?
We do. We do. And we don't care about what other people think. So it was very violent for him at the beginning. He was raised part of his life in the Midwest.
Oh, boy.
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Chapter 5: How can Sean overcome his fear of PDA?
Let me explain something to you, Eugenia. I think it is a very Irish thing, which is we are kind of uptight. And we don't show a lot of public displays of affection. Whereas, of course, I know it's a... But when I think about Spain, I think of people being very open with their emotions.
You don't even know what to do with your hands right now. Oh, you want me to simulate? No, I don't want to. Then shut up!
I'm trying to find the words. You can't even do private displays of affection. He's speaking Spanish. He's got a flamenco. Eugenia.
Eugenia, let me explain something to you. I've been married for 21 years and my wife has never seen me naked. Never. When I take a shower, I'm wearing a business suit. But this is her choice though, right? Well, she saw me once and she said, I demand that you wear a five-piece suit. I didn't even know what a five-piece suit was. But Eugenia, there is a difference, which is...
We're more repressed. And I think, but I've learned, I've learned, I'm heavily medicated. I also drink a lot. And I live now in Southern California and I've changed a little bit. And I think I could talk to Sean and I could help him with his fear of public displays of affection because you're a very beautiful woman. I think he should be able to embrace you openly.
What? You are so awkward. Oh, my God. It's like you're holding a tuba. That is so awkward.
Well, listen, I'm assuming she's wearing a parka.
It's cold.
Sometimes it gets cold.
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Chapter 6: What are the wedding plans and how can Conan help?
I'm sorry. I don't know how to act this out.
Eugenia. Oh, my God.
I'm going to talk to you. No, no, no. You're a very beautiful woman. I was just... I don't want to put, even on your imaginary self, I don't want to get too close because of, I think that's, you know, the whole Me Too thing. So I'm being very, I'm showing, even in an imaginary way, I'm showing a lot of respect and distance.
A lot of space.
I'm giving you your space. But anyway.
We already told counseling what we get for Sean, I think. Maybe you could show him a little bit, the ways.
He would show you? You want me to show Sean, give him some premarital counseling on how to be more affectionate in public? No.
Maybe it could be a two-way kind of relation where maybe your wife will be also happy that he tells you some tips about it since you're also struggling.
No, no, no. Listen, we're not getting my wife involved in this, okay? You know? And it's not a two-way if my wife's involved. Listen, Eugenia... I feel for Sean because I know what he's going through. We are an uptight people. And so what you're saying is and I'd like you to actually say this. You think do you think that I could come and help Sean with his public display of affection issues?
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