Seth Gehle is a professional speaker committed to empowering others to embrace their warrior spirit and overcome any adversity or trauma in their life. Enduring 16 years of abuse, Seth transformed his pain into purpose, using his voice as an author and motivational speaker to help others heal and find strength. A devoted husband and father, Seth proves that with determination, anyone can overcome their past and create a brighter future. Strength Beyond the Shadow: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0DMGQZZ1V?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr= Today's Sponsors: Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Drink LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/Clearedhot
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. Welcome back. I'm going to open right up with this. Today's episode is not a feel good episode. This is a heavy topic. It's a dark topic and it's real. It is more pervasive than I think a lot of people would care to even imagine. We're going to be talking about abuse, specifically sexual abuse of a young man.
But having said that, what Seth, my guest today is Seth Gill, what he has been able to do with that and how he has been able to shape his life through what happened to him, I think is an incredible thing. So like I said, the guest today is Seth Gill. He wrote this book, Strength Beyond the Shadows. Now, Seth himself is 82nd Airborne Combat Vet.
worked in the construction business, an ultra marathon runner. He's an author, obviously speaker now, BJJ practitioner, amazing things. I am not even going to attempt to describe what he has lived through because he gets into it in a level of detail that might make some listeners uncomfortable. My recommendation to you is to stay the course, to listen, to learn,
And I honestly think that in somebody telling a story like this, there are warning signs for those of us out there who would step in if they could figure out a way to stop this from happening. Whether it's just a conversation, asking somebody the right question, recognizing the warning signs, whether they're physical, emotional, psychological. I think it's possible.
I don't think it's possible that we could stop it, but I think there are ways that people who are paying attention to this type of predation can step in and do something. So that's what we're going to get into on today's episode. If you follow the podcast, you know that I work with some advertisers.
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Chapter 2: How did Seth Gehle overcome his traumatic past?
Yeah. I also had that when we switched, when the gym got the new mats, they had the rough tatami finish and I didn't feel it at the time and it had abraded almost all of the skin on my face. That was a fun one to hop under there.
Yeah. Yeah. I get a lot of that in my face just from, I'm a pressure passer. And so all I do is just like head constantly. And so I just get a lot of the ghee rubbing on the face. How long have you been training?
Two years now. Sweet. So blue belt? Yeah. The old blue belt. Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you find it came with any magical powers? Jiu-jitsu? No, the blue belt. No.
No. Fuck no. No. I was promoted way too soon. Did you have a wrestling background or a graphic? I mean, that's what's going to happen, man. I know. It's real. See, everybody says that. It's funny you say that because as soon as I start rolling with somebody, they're like, oh, you're a wrestler, aren't you? I'm like, yeah.
No, but that's a good thing.
I know. Yeah. I know, but here's the thing is I was a fucking dog shit wrestler.
Doesn't matter.
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Chapter 3: What are the warning signs of abuse?
I'll do that.
I don't think you will, but I mean, it's good advice either way.
I will.
I will. How's it feel to be an author, man? Published author.
Yeah.
10 years ago, if I had asked you to write down 100 things on a piece of paper, do you think author would have been one? Yep. Okay.
Yep. I've always known I was going to write a book. Okay. I've always known I was going to tell a story, tell my story, right? So, I mean, when I was... There's a specific day. There's two days. There's two moments in my life where... I knew I would do what I'm doing now. And one of them, I was 10 years old. One of them, I was about 12, 13 years old.
100%.
Yeah. That's awesome. I remember. And I was talking about this with, uh, with actually Nick the other day was, um, I didn't have a role models in my life. I had, uh, examples of what I didn't want to be. And so when I came home, I saw that and like no shit. Like this is like when D.A.R.E. program was like big, like the don't do drugs kind of shit. And really what happened was I came home.
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Chapter 4: How can storytelling impact healing?
But if I was in his shoes, I would do that and probably have one of the best nights of sleep in my entire life.
So, yeah, there's a lot to that, right? And everybody applauds Clark for it. One of the things that I love about him that he does say is, you know, because that's what everybody's like, man, it must have been cool to kill Clark. a child fucking predator, right? And Clark's like, look, man, honestly, you don't battle trauma with trauma. He's like, it was a traumatizing event.
He tells the story, you know, before he cut his throat, he says, you know, how's it feel fucking little boys? And he cuts his fucking throat.
There's an argument for, you know, you don't fight trauma with trauma, but I tell you what, and I'm not an expert in these people, but I'm going to call them predators. The rate of recidivism, even when they go through treatment and therapy in prison, is shockingly high. It's the same as people who- What the hell does recidivism mean? repeat behavior.
Okay.
Meaning they'll, they go and they try to, they're not, they're not, they, they, they will pick right back up where they left off. And, um, let me be very clear about this. Like I didn't do shit in my military career. I was surrounded by amazing people. Occasionally we would bump up against those who had the exact opposite beliefs of everything this country
is founded on and what I believe it stands for. And they would kill you and everybody, you know, and your family just to make a point because they have the opposite belief. I don't know of any other way to stop that person other than to put their lights out. And I don't know of another way to take those predators off the street other than actually taking them off the street in that way.
And I'm not saying that people should do that. I'm just saying that there is another part of that conversation of you can't fight trauma with trauma. Like, okay, I get that. Yeah. How the fuck do you solve, not solve the problem, but how do you, how do you stop somebody who is, I mean, we're talking decades later, this guy saw him, right?
Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of community support?
Chapter 6: How does trauma affect mental health?
Yeah.
Yeah, it gets fucked up all the time. Nobody knows where it's at. Lima, lost in the middle of America. Anyways, it's two hours south of Detroit. It's on I-75. Maybe 34,000 people, just to paint the picture. It's...
It felt like a big city to me when I was growing up because in the 90s, you could actually like walk outside and I don't know, you could ride your bike, you know, across the city without being, I don't know, whatever. I think that was true in most cities. Right, right.
And so Lima was like one of those places and it just felt like a big city to me because I would ride my bike across the town, you know, whatever. Anyways, when I was about two years old, my father, he stabbed my mom behind the ear, almost killed her. And so my mom was raising me and my two sisters by herself. My father went to prison for that, obviously.
And I don't know the full story of that to this day. It's a he said, she said between those two. And I don't know if I'll ever know the full details of what happened. I'd love to know it, but that'll likely never surface. So my mom raising three kids by herself, you're already statistically behind the fucking ball, right?
I mean, raising kids is arguably one of the... I don't truly think it's that difficult, but it is one of the most important things you can do, raising them right. And it takes a tribe. It just does. Kids need... They need the more positive influences the most as possible. We didn't have that. Like I said, I didn't have any positive role models. I had examples. And...
you know, when I was about five years old, those are my earliest memories. And we lived in this apartment complex and my mom, I was in kindergarten. My mom would, my mom would work during the day so she could be with us at night. So we'd wake up in the morning, go to school, come home and she would be gone for two, three hours.
And then she'd get home, you know, four or five, six o'clock or whatever. She'd be with us and put us to bed. Were you guys on your own during that time? Yeah. Yeah. We're running around by ourselves. Um, five, six, seven years old. Um, and, And the thing with that is we would come home and my mom would have a notepad. She would write out our chores.
So she would say, hey, you have this and this and this. Do all these things before you go outside. And we were sufficient. My mom was very disciplinarian of a mother. And she had to be. When you're raising three kids by yourself, they've got to be able to take care of themselves because you can't afford a babysitter, all of those things. And
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