Piers Morgan joins me in London to discuss his background, the state of modern journalism, his thoughts on the Gaza–Israel conflict, and what his plans for the future hold. PreBorn! To donate, dial pound 250 & say the keyword “BABY” that’s pound 250 “BABY” or donate securely at https://preborn.com/candace Tax Network USA For a FREE private consultation visit http://www.TNUSA.com/Candace Or call 1(800)-958-1000 American Financing Act today! Call 800-795-1210 or visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens NMLS182334, http://www.NMLSconsumeraccess.org PureTalk Get 50% off your first month at http://www.PureTalk.com/Owens Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Subscribe to Club Candace: https://www.clubcandace.com Join The Candace Community on Locals: https://candace.locals.com #CandaceShow #Candace #CandaceOwens #News #Politics #Culture #PopCulture Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What makes Piers Morgan a controversial figure?
It was so preposterous. And in fact, worse than what happened to me. was what happened to Sharon Osbourne, if you remember, at The Talk, where Cheryl Underwood, and the show's now been canned, I'm pleased to say, because it really died that day when they did this, because it's a show called The Talk. You're supposed to be allowed to talk. Sharon just supported me.
She didn't even say she agreed with what I said about Meghan Markle, although now, ironically, I'd have been fired for saying the complete opposite. If I said I believed Meghan Markle after the Oprah interview, people would now fire me for believing Pinocchio, right?
So at the time, it seemed so contentious and outrageous to disbelieve her or to think a lot of what she was saying couldn't possibly be true. Now it doesn't seem that way. But Sharon, all she did was say, I support Piers. We've been friends for a long time. We worked again on America's Got Talent with Jerry.
And she was just showing a bit of loyalty to me without actually getting into what I'd said. And then Sharon was, what, even supporting with these racist things he said, isn't she? Hang on, what racist thing did he say? And it all blew up. She got blindsided.
And she got fired from a talk, a job she loved, for having the audacity to support me even though everyone knew I hadn't said a racist thing. Not one word. Sheryl Underwood couldn't actually say what it was I was supposed to have said that was racist. It was utterly shameful of CBS to do what they did to Sharon that day.
And the fallout from that whole Oprah interview, if you watch the whole sequence of events... Really a shocking attack on freedom of speech is really what it came down to. You could say something right now. I'm entitled to say I don't believe you. And you're entitled to say, well, I'm right because boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
But the idea that your first reaction is, if you don't believe me, you're racist because I'm not white. Sorry, what? That's the criteria? I'm not allowed to disbelieve you because of your skin color? That's how preposterous it was.
You know what? It's really interesting because obviously I kind of made my mark as a black woman who was anti-BLM from the very beginning because I saw this. I saw this budding and people who sort of were taking this perspective that black people became untouchable after the George Floyd. They're allowed to steal a flat screen TV from Target. You can't criticize that.
And if you do, it's because you're a racist, not because you have... some basic dignity and morals. But I'm seeing the same thing now. It kind of has changed definitely post-October 7th. And I've seen those same accusations where it's like, OK, well, if you're critiquing this foreign nation and Bibi Netanyahu, of course, none of us would want our Jewish friends to be harassed.
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Chapter 2: What is Piers Morgan's view on modern journalism?
Well, yeah, I would come to that. So you have the obvious bad actors on the world stage. In terms of people who are running countries, my biggest problem is not that they're bad, it's that they're incompetent, which can be as bad. But when I hear Elon Musk talk about this a lot, he's so brilliantly competent.
He operates at such a high level of competence that he finds incompetent people incredibly irritating. And I know exactly what he means. I think if you look around leadership around the world, there's a lot of incompetent people. I don't necessarily think they're bad. I mean, Angela Merkel's a good example, right? I wouldn't say she was a bad person. She's not unintelligent.
She just turned out to be incredibly incompetent and caused a lot of mayhem for her country, despite being lauded in real time. Jacinda Ardern, remember the Prime Minister of New Zealand... was lauded as a COVID heroine because of all her extreme lockdown views and so on and so on. But history has not been kind to her either. So I think a lot of people, it comes down to basic competence.
One of the problems of Boris Johnson here in this country was he's just a general shambolic character. The level of competence seemed very low. Trump first time around seemed chaotic and therefore stroked potentially a problem for competence. This time he's surrounding himself with incredibly high performing competent people like Elon. That's what makes it really interesting to me.
And that's why I think his next term could be genuinely transformative. And people might say Trump's a bad guy. I don't think he is a bad guy. I think he's somebody who had the wrong people around him first time around and was being beaten up so mercilessly by the media that his only response was to go after them with equal venom.
This time I see he's calmer, he's better organized, he's chosen his cabinet in record time, he's chosen people who are disruptive but they're smart, and they're just going to operate on a different way to establishment people would do. But he's got Elon Musk sitting there helping him all the way with all this stuff. It's a lethal combination.
Trump's instincts and Elon's ability and instincts to operate at a very elite level.
So do you think I'm just going to push back on the Elon Musk thing? Am I even pushing back? I just find myself puzzled about it. I wonder if we're attributing too much superheroism to Elon Musk because he did this amazing thing having freed the bird.
I think he actually might be a superhero.
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Chapter 3: How does Piers Morgan define his political stance?
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I am.
I just found this out today.
I'm a Catholic. I was actually given spiritual guidance by Catholic nuns when I was 11 and 12.
That's incredible.
For two years.
Now, is faith still a part of your life or would you say a bit of a departure? Do you go to Mass?
I go to Mass, but not a lot. I go to weekly Mass, but I do go to Mass. And my mother is still a very staunch Catholic, raised us all as Catholics. I believe in God. I believe in Catholicism, what it stands for. Yeah, I mean, we all do in my family. We're a big Catholic family. And, yeah, I take a lot of comfort from it, actually.
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