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STOP EVERYTHING. They FINALLY Mentioned ME In The Blake Lively Lawsuit! | Candace Ep 152

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All right, you guys, happy Wednesday. So we took a one day break yesterday and we somehow time traveled to Christmas morning over here because I was recently name checked in Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds recent filing against Justin Baldoni in Wayfarer Studios. I did it. I made it. I can now retire. All of the haters out there who doubted me are now asking for forgiveness.

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But I was just like, Suge Knight. I turned into Suge Knight yesterday and I was just going to thug some people and say things. I was like standby people, too, people that were just going to catch stray bullets. I was like pulling up old emails that upset me, old text messages like, you know, and that person, too. I'm going to out that person, too.

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They will ruin Isabella Farah for sports. They will ruin the career of Brandon Sklenar. They don't care about that. They don't care about Liz Plank. I mean, for really do we need an expert on what a bromance is? These people were just like useful idiots to them. But Taylor Swift, for a narcissist, for two narcissists, they're like, that's what we want. We love power. We love feedback.

Candace

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We want to save this relationship. So we're going to file this, pretend it has something to do with something else that we can then go to her and say, we got you, babe. I got you, babe. It's totally fine. Then they go on and they start to argue about the specific tenets of paragraph nine of the model P.O.

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And they basically say that this designation is moot because if he's already said basically Brian Freeman has already said that he doesn't believe Blake Lively and that she thinks that she wants publicity and that she's proven that she wants publicity.

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And so if we do the model P.O., the two of us attorneys will have to go to the judge if we have a disagreement, because in the model P.O., you guys can look at the documents. You can say, oh, this is Taylor Swift's text messages. The lawyers from both opposing sides come together, look at the messages and they say, OK, let's let's not make this one public. And they agree.

Candace

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Well, her lawyers are saying they're never going to agree because Brian Friedman's just crazy. And so what then would happen is each time we'd have to go to the judge to make a decision. And that's just a waste of court resources. That's the argument they're making. It's a waste of court resources. Sweetheart, this entire lawsuit is a waste of court resources.

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Let's let's stop pretending that like this part right here is where it gets bad. The whole thing is a waste of court resources. OK, until you guys scream uncle and realize that we're not going to let you out of this. We are wasting court resources. Let's not pretend that you care about that now. And here is where it gets to me. I'm so excited. The last paragraph. I can't believe it. Here it is.

Candace

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This is my big day. Is everybody watching? I just want to make sure everyone's watching. Everybody at home, it's me. Hi. Okay. So they wrote in the last paragraph, "...certain online content creators who frequently parrot the Wayfarer Party's line..."

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at least one of whom, at least one of whom just so happens to be a client of Wayfarer's counsel, Brian Friedman, have used similar misleading accusations. So that little, that little petty betty was a mention for Perez Hilton. So they wanted to get that in there.

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They want the public to know that Perez Hilton, who has been covering this extensively, has a conflict of interest because apparently he was a client to Brian Friedman. But there's a little bit of dirt thrown on me here because I'm the only other person that gets mentioned. And I want to be clear. They said at least one of whom just so happens.

Candace

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So they're like kind of trying to signal like, oh, but Candace could be too. So let me clarify. I am not I have never spoken to Brian Friedman in my life. And it hurts me deeply. As I said to you guys, like he he and I are connected in the stars or something like, you know, he might be my brother from another mother. I've never spoken to Justin Baldoni. He's literally my cousin.

Candace

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OK, so we're talking about a family that's been torn apart. We've never even met each other. We're a long lost family. So don't you try to put this little this little maybe even other people. Then they mention me and they say they quote my tweets.

Candace

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My husband's looking at me like, you know, sweetheart, maybe. Maybe just don't do your show today. Maybe just take a chill pill. And so I took a chill pill, guys. And that's why we had to go off air. That is the truth. And that's the new excuse going forward. That's the new way. We don't say our dogs ate our homework. We're just dead serious.

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I'm not sure what argument they're making because I'm not sure what argument they're ever making because their entire lawsuit is just filled with contradictions. But they use my tweet and they say. Late last night, which is what I said, I tweeted this late last night while we all slept, Lake Lively and Ryan Reynolds filed a protective order.

Candace

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The guilty as sin couple is asking a judge to protect from the public some confidential documents and names that will be gathered in the discovery process. And then after they put my tweet, they write predictably the media outlets picked up the same narrative. Okay, yeah, but that's what you did. What am I guilty of here? What am I guilty of here?

Candace

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Leading the pack of people because we're psychotic and we're checking your filings every day. And we said, oh, look, yeah, she's filing for more protection to protect. She thinks it's confidential documents. We just read through this. We showed the public that's what you're doing. So I don't understand why I got name checked here. And then just to say predictably that's

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the media outlets picked up the same narrative. They're like, they got me out here looking like Regina George when she cuts her shirt. And then everybody just starts cutting their shirts. It's like, no, I'm just telling the truth. And I don't understand what your problem is with me other than the fact that I am under your skin. I'm so excited. I'm under their skin. Blake and Ryan are watching.

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You know what's going to happen? I want to be very clear, guys. You know where we're headed? I can see us barreling toward this future. I am going to be put not just in the Deadpool movies, but all over that next Taylor Swift album. I'm going to be, you guys are going to be Easter egg hunting. She's going to have songs about me. She's going to be like, nothing rhymes with kombucha.

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Yeah, there's going to be a whole song and teenagers are going to be singing in the air. Yeah. You took this. He's not even your cousin. Nothing rhymes with kombucha. I'm excited. And I'm going to go to the concert. I told you my little girl, she likes Taylor Swift music. And I am bopping to London Boy forever. But the point of the fact of the matter of everything that is going on is no.

Candace

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I'm not Judge Lehman. I'm not Brian Friedman. I'm not Justin Baldoni. I'm not Wilkie Farr Gallagher. But I am. The the public jury lawyers, both lawyers, both parties, I have to be able to make a decision on my own show. And I'm telling you that we are not accepting this. OK, I want the Taylor Swift text messages. I deserve the Taylor Swift text messages.

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We're just like, someone deeply upset me and I cannot perform my duties today. Anyways, I am better now. I'm happy now. I'm more than better because we did it. Like I said, I am not involved in this lawsuit, or at least that's what my lawyer kept telling me. Oh, no, you're not a part of this lawsuit. Well, joke's on him because I have now been name checked in this lawsuit.

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OK, I've worked incredibly hard for the Taylor Swift text messages. Years. OK, not years, but like everyone can see that I have made a real effort. And now that you have name checked me and I'm under your skin, I'm going to be there for a very long time. I'm not going to let go. I'm like a pit bull. OK, I'm on to you. I see what's happening. And you're just throwing me in here.

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We're trying to make people think that I'm somehow connected to Brian Freeman when I'm not. But it will be in the future. OK, that's my brother from another mother. And you're messing with my cousin and I'm pregnant. OK, I'm feeling like Suge Knight yesterday. You guys, look, you didn't run into me yesterday. There would have been problems, problems in these streets.

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And that's all I'm going to say about that topic. Now into a much nicer topic. Preborn. I love them. They sponsor this show. You know, we have so much in part of the pro-life movement that we do to kind of conquer Planned Parenthood, spending so many millions to target what we deem to be vulnerable women. I'm convincing them that the abortion pill is a quick, easy solution.

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That's HomeTitleLock.com, promo code CANDICE250 to get the protection and peace of mind that you deserve. Okay, guys, this also was going viral. And it's just funny and weird. People are just being weird now. I don't know what happens. People go down to D.C., you get these people into office, and they just start getting weird. And one person... who's gotten a little strange, is Dan Crenshaw.

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So let's back it up and I'll explain how we got here. I'm just giddy. It's so much joy right now. So Judge Lehman, don't forget, the parties all met, kind of a preliminary hearing. It's just the lawyers met. And Judge Lehman of New York instructed both of the parties of the suit to submit a proposed protective order. I think the deadline he gave them was March 10th for a proposed protective order.

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So we should discuss him altogether because I think in my political career, I don't know that I have ever been more wrong about a person. And I pride myself on my gut instincts.

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So I'm hoping that something just happened along the line because when Dan Crenshaw first appeared on the scene, he seemingly had it all, definitely checked all the boxes for conservatives because we're like, he's a veteran and he truly sacrificed his health to defend the country. And he also seemed to have a really good sense of humor and he wasn't exactly polarizing. which was nice.

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It was kind of nice to have a non-polarizing person. If you guys don't remember him, there was this notorious moment when Pete Davidson went on to SNL and he made fun of Dan Crenshaw because he had an eye patch. And then there was like a conservative backlash against SNL and Pete Davidson came under like major heat. And rather than like adding to the hate campaign against Pete Davidson,

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Dan Crenshaw did this really cool thing. He teamed up with Pete Davidson and they did a skit together on SNL. And it just felt nice. It was like, OK, we can take a brief pause in hitting each other and we can all agree that it's cool that they have come together. And I don't know what's happened since. I feel like that's where he peaked.

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And I was thinking at that time he was presidential material. I was wrong. Very wrong. You don't get it right all the time, but you don't always get it that wrong. And I got it that wrong. OK, so fast forward for those of you that don't follow conservative politics that much. He just started getting angry. OK.

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And I mean, like, can't answer a basic question about your ideas without snapping on people angry. And I'm going to give you an example of that. There was this town hall, a tea party town hall, and this young teenage girl asked him a question, as you are allowed to do at town halls. You're supposed to ask politicians questions.

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And she was particularly concerned about something that he had said on a podcast about Jesus Christ and whether or not he was a hero. So just look at how young she sounds and looks and how politely she asks the question and ask yourself if Dan Crenshaw's response makes you comfortable. Take a listen.

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People in the background are just like, don't talk to a kid like that. Mind you, this is amongst his peers. There's just been a lot of that like bubbling anger over the years. You're not allowed to ask Dan Crenshaw any questions about what he believes or what he says.

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You're not allowed to ask him about the contradictions of saying you're America first, but also giving money overseas to never ending wars, especially Israel. He just kind of snaps and calls people names. But I think that that

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That really demonstrates I just feel like you should have this natural male instinct when someone that young accepts you with a voice like that and sounds so innocent and is asking a genuine question of what you said and you just freaking slammer. And he's not pregnant. As far as I know, he is not pregnant. So it's a bit strange.

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So recently he was interviewed by a journalist named Stephen Eddington, who works for GB News that's overseas the UK. And when the interview had concluded, he was still mic'd up, obviously, because it doesn't like magically like disintegrate. You obviously have your mic on still. And the camera was directly in front of him. And he's caught on the hot mic.

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And Stephen asks him if he's ever met Tucker Carlson. And he responds, we talked a lot on Twitter, but if I ever meet him, I'll effing kill him. I'm going to kill Tucker Carlson. What do you mean you're going to kill Tucker Carlson? You can't kill Tucker Carlson. Anyways, here's the clip.

Candace

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because both teams agreed that some kind of a protective order would indeed be appropriate for this case to protect confidential information. Now, as we reported, Brian Friedman and Wayfarer wanted essentially a model protection order, which is indeed standard. It's a standard protection order. But on the 20th,

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OK. And so was he joking? Well, Stephen Edgington, the journalist, said that he was not. He shared that clip onto his X feed. He then he deleted it thereafter. But he's in at the time that he shared it. He said that he kept receipts of the remark. And he also claimed that Crenshaw told him when he laughed. which we didn't get to see that he wasn't joking.

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Like he's just gonna kill Tucker Carlson, which is like, it's a bit extreme. Anyways, this is now the deleted tweet right here. I laughed it off. He said, no, seriously, I would kill him. Okay, I don't know what to make of that. Now, some people were asking, is that fair game? Is it fair game to catch him on a hot mic?

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And those people clearly have not been following Dan Crenshaw because there doesn't need to be a hot mic around. OK, this is who he now is in public. He represents himself as someone who's really angry, who just wants to maybe hurt people physically to get that anger out. And I'll give you another example. There was a time that he freaked out when someone questioned him regarding a spending bill.

Candace

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Like fair critique. I don't know if you guys are comfortable with that, but I don't think that any sitting congressperson should be responding with such volatile and anger and like wanting to challenge people to fight if they have a disagreement or a question about a spending bill. That's literally why you're elected. People are allowed to question you and question how you're voting.

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That's that's how politics work. And if you're ill equipped emotionally to be able to respond to those questions, maybe you shouldn't be in Congress, obviously. Anyway, Sucker replied to his little death threat or whatever it is, whatever you want to call it.

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Whether you want to take it seriously or just think of it as just another unhinged Dan Crenshaw moment because he just says stuff because he's angry. And Tucker offered for him to come on his show. He said, why don't you come sit for an interview and we'll see how you do it. We'll see how you kill me. I'll send you my address. And it was weird. Elon Musk obviously just loves to hype.

Candace

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Elon Musk is basically on X. Did you guys used to have the cafeteria O? In middle school, like for no reason at all, because we're just like effing around. Just one person goes, oh, just like hype. That's Elon Musk on Twitter. So he's just hyping a fight. He's like, why is he homicidal against Tucker, Tucker Carlson? And it's going to be interesting to see how Crenshaw responds to this.

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Hopefully he does a little better than what he did when Marjorie Taylor Greene asked if he threatened to kill Tucker, even though we all heard it and watched it with our own eyes and the journalist confirmed it. He just said no. Marjorie Taylor Greene said, did you threaten to kill my friend Tucker Carlson? And Dan Crenshaw just said no. And I respect that. I respect it because...

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which was, I think, last Friday, Blake's team filed for a slightly modified type of protection order that would include increased protections to third parties. Now, we covered this filing. I told you that essentially what was buried in it was what I would describe as the Taylor Swift clause. I'm just calling it the Taylor Swift clause, essentially allowing the respective lawyers to

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When politicians lie, they do it so boldly that you do have to have a little bit of respect for that level of lying. Like you did not see or hear anything. Anyways, you guys just wanted you to know that this seems to be boiling over. This is a little montage of Tucker Carlson and Dan Crenshaw. It's been happening for years.

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They don't like each other, but I think things are really reaching a fever pitch. Take a listen.

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And I just want to say thank you to all of you who believed in me, who believed in us, who knew that this day would come. So grab your effing florals and welcome back to Candice. Right. So at first, let's just address the elephant in the room. That's me. I'm very pregnant.

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I just love the part there where he just says, I'm not going to name names. Then he's like, Dan Crenshaw. He's just like, pull the cut. I'm actually going to say it is Dan Crenshaw. And I totally agree with this. And I love people who have the courage to critique their own side or what's supposed to be our own side. It's why I love Tucker Carlson.

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I'm a huge fan of Tucker Carlson because he remains principled. Whether you like him or you don't like him, if you look throughout the years, he admits when he's wrong and he remains principled and he's willing to stand up when people... don't find that opinion to be favorable. And I disagree with him.

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I think irrespective of how we feel about politics, Dan Crenshaw just seems to be having some sort of a mental breakdown. It's been going on for a while. I've heard weird rumors about him flirting with the Turning Point USA girls at events, but I can't spill too much right now. My husband has me in timeout. I don't want to have to cancel the show again.

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Anyways, I wanted to show you guys one more clip because when I was in a really bad mood yesterday, Theo Vaughn, it just appeared on my Instagram, and I was cry laughing. I think Theo Vaughn is hilarious. He has a very strange brand of humor. He just says things that are all over the place.

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I don't know what's happening in the headquarters of Theo Vaughn's brain, but I want to hang out there for a day to just see why he thinks the way he does. What was that quote he said that you were quoting, Skylar, about? I like raisins because they're grapes that have been through ****. That's a Theo Vaughn statement where you're like, what, Theo Vaughn, what are you talking about?

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Anyways, give you the background of this clip before I show it to you. Theo Vaughn, I would not categorize him as left or right. He's a comedian. He used to be on Real World Road Rules and a lot of show game shows. And he does a lot of stand up comedy. And now he has a podcast, which has grown very popular.

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And it's one of the podcasts that Donald Trump went on, which made it even more popular, where he just didn't really speak to Trump much about politics. And he spoke to him more about just like who he is as a person, which was much more relatable than hearing people who hate each other shout at each other throughout an entire interview. So it was I thought it was a very good move.

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And anyways, for that reason, Donald Trump invited Theo Vaughn to the inauguration, which is funny. And Theo Vaughn was sitting at the inauguration and his chair broke. I guess they had some ghetto chairs and Theo Vaughn got lucky number ghetto chair, whatever. And he just the chair legs just gave out.

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So first I'll show you him falling in the chair and then I'll show you what he how he recaps that situation. Take a listen.

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to just deem anything that they want, attorney's eyes only, right? So they get a document and they're just like, you know what, this one, you can see it, Brian, but it's attorney's eyes only. You can't show that to anybody else. So it's really important that you guys understand this differentiation.

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Okay. Now listen to Theo Vaughn describing what he now refers to as chair gate. And you can take me all the way out of this.

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I just love the sound effect for a really rich woman who's offended that you've just done something out of pocket. And she's just like, no, I don't know why this person's sitting near me. Yeah. You're in the back, lady. You're in Section 8. Respect, Theo. I got to tell you, that literally put me... I watched it like 10 times yesterday.

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It puts me in a great mood, so I just had to share it with you. I had to sprinkle some good mood on you guys because it's Wednesday. It's hump day. You're almost at the halfway or more than halfway point of the week, and Theo Vaughn is just really random. So... I'll tell you guys about American financing and then I'll jump into some of your comments.

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Okay, I know the average person today is feeling the financial strain more than ever. Expenses are up, wages aren't keeping pace, and many people are finding it nearly impossible to make ends meet. Not the person, the rich lady in front of Theo Vaughn, but the rest of the world.

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With little left over after covering the basics, it's no surprise that many are resorting to credit cards just to get by, often carrying high balances and interest rates in the 20s or even 30s.

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We have to distinguish between the two, what a standard court protective order is and what Blake Lively's team is asking for, which is an attorney's eyes only designation. So the standard model one is referred to as a model protective order. A court model protective order is something that they had previously agreed to.

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So if you're a homeowner and you're stuck in the cycle of mounting debt, you need to call my friends at American Financing because their salary-based mortgage consultants are saving homeowners an average of $800 a month, helping you put your hard-earned money back where it belongs. Plus, if you act now, you might not even...

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be able to skip, you might be able to, pardon, skip your next month's mortgage payment. There are no upfront fees, so it costs you nothing to find out how much you could be saving each month. It's time to break free from the stress of debt. Talk to American Financing today and take control of your financial future. Call 800-795-1210. Again, that's 800-795-1210.

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Or you can visit AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. That's AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. All right, guys, let's see what is on your mind. By the way, fun announcement. First and foremost, a couple announcements. There's going to be a new Shot in the Dark episode up on the website. That will be episode 12, the polio vaccine.

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That's a really important one for parents to watch because that's the one that they do all the dramatic, like, we cured polio. And like, do you want polio to come back? Woo! Lies, misrepresentations, girlfriend. Let me tell you, please watch that episode. If you watch no other episode, watch the polio vaccine episode.

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You are going to come out of it shaken because that is always the one that people on autopilot about vaccines say, oh, but what about polio? Which, by the way, we've all been there. I'm not judging you. Like I said, if I didn't get personally injured from Gardasil, I would have been one of the people going, but polio, what about the polio? We cured polio. So that will be up also.

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Guys, if you're watching this live on YouTube, subscribe. We're so close to 4 million subscribers. I just feel like we can do that. Everyone watching right now, hit and get me to 4 million so we can celebrate and drop a new Sandus cup. And thank you for all of you guys who were at the book club yesterday. We meet every two weeks and it's been amazing. I absolutely love it.

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It's a totally different vibe, you know, way more chill. And it's just interesting to talk about concepts and to really be able to go down the rabbit hole and be a conspiracy theorist in the comfort of the book club. of our own little book club. Also, what else did I have? I think I had one more announcement, but I can't remember it.

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Oh, I have solved the little legal hurdle that was making me have to kind of delay the Harvey series until it got figured out. Hopefully tomorrow. Oh, definitely tomorrow. I can tell you a lot more about that series, more about the phone calls that I've had with him. So I'm really excited to spill on that and start activating the TikTokers and the sleuth moms and sleuth dads.

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to take a look back into that case. Okay, let's get into some comments. We have Jesse who writes, Candace, I shot you an email. I'm $400 confident it's worth your attention if you see this. Absolutely love your show and congrats on the new CBS deal. Hope to chat soon. That CBS deal is fake. I don't know why people keep saying that. Me and Megyn Kelly did not sign a deal with CBS.

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There's like these Facebook accounts that just like create memes and they pretend that it's like breaking news and it's never happened. So that's not happening. Unfortunately, I will be continuing to speak to you guys, my podcast where I'm comfortable and happy. Dahlia.

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Leah writes, cousin Candace are lively in Reynolds name dropping you because they're shook by your ability to stir the pot without breaking a sweat. Or is this their slick way of asking you to narrate the Netflix doc? I don't know. I don't know what they're thinking, but I was excited. I was very excited.

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It just means keeping some of the material that will come out through the course of a high profile lawsuit away from the general public. Most importantly, because it's just irrelevant stuff that has no bearing on the legal consequences of the case, but might unintentionally stir the public.

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Like I said, I actually I believe the purpose of that was just to kind of throw a little dirt. to try to imply something like, oh, there's probably something there with Candace. She's got to be working for someone. It's like, no, guys, there's no conspiracy, okay?

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I'm interested in this case because I really think Blake Lively sucks and I think Ryan Reynolds is a bully and I have just written myself into this narrative. I did. I wrote myself into this narrative. I'm not going anywhere. This is where I belong. This is where I feel at home. I'm mom. I made it. Proud of myself. Okay.

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Isabel writes, I think many would agree that your ops have increased significantly lately. If possible, having someone from your team check in when you go MIA like yesterday would be greatly appreciated. You're very sweet. You missed me so much. I did. I did. I posted on Instagram that I couldn't. I couldn't come to the phone right now because somebody spoke to me improperly.

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I was about as honest as I could get. And I'm good. It was just a rare Suge Knight breakdown. Sometimes people have a little Suge Knight breakdown. And I was too thug life. I was way too thug. I was ghetto. I was out of control yesterday, okay? I did everybody a favor. I caged myself and woke up in a better mood. I hope no more of those days happen. It came unexpectedly. I'm ashamed of myself.

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I should have done better. Andrea writes, you, Candace, keep it up. Love you, Candace. Keep it up. Praying for you. Thank you so much. The prayers work. They keep me safe. I'm convinced. Dahlia writes, are crying Ryan and Lively mad that you got a hotter take on their drama than their own press releases? Yeah, probably.

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Maybe because people know that they're lying and that they have obviously firms, PR firms that are trying to change the narrative and encourage us not to read documents. And I'm like, I'm here for this. Look at me, Ryan, crying Ryan, fake Lively. Look at me. Look at the notes, tations, like we are here. Look at this. There's no way out, okay? There is no way out. I am here. I'm paying attention.

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And we have Rose Kiesel. She writes, Candice, your next bagels are on me. Thank you. Yeah, I did actually confess about that. It was a bad day. Yesterday was a bad day. And I shouldn't have eaten two bagels, but I don't want that to become public fodder. So I don't want to mention it anymore beyond this episode. OK, don't talk to me about these bagels anymore, guys.

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Skadku writes, Candace, can you shed light on what Israel is doing in South Syria? Or, of course, the mainstream media is not covering it. Yeah, you know, I should have back on a couple of people that were experts in that region. It's the only one. that I feel that I am not educated enough to speak on, like the backstory of what happened in Syria.

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Example, they subpoena my financial records because I'm alleging that something was done that led to severe financial consequence in my life. So the other side says, OK, we're going to subpoena your financial records. And in the process, they become privy to things that might embarrass me, like the fact that yesterday when I was in a bad mood, I ate two bagels in the morning. I did.

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And that's why last time I had somebody on who was extremely educated to talk about Syria. You can actually go find that episode. And I think he did recently message us and say, can I come back on the show? So we should definitely do another deep dive on everything that's happening in the Middle East. I have just...

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And Scott Horton, if you're looking for that episode, it was it was a sit down between me and Scott Horton. And I did most of the listening and he did most of the speaking. And it was just very educational for me because, you know, I don't claim to be a geopolitical expert and I try not to speak until I know more about the backstory of certain things.

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But I definitely can host people that know a lot more and hopefully awaken a lot of people to what's going on around the world. Right now, I obviously am and I'm deep in a lawsuit that I'm involved in, no matter what my lawyer says. We're just getting closer and closer. He says, I'm still on a party to the suit. Who cares what he says? Noah, if you're watching, I don't care, okay?

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I'm telling people that I'm a party to the suit and that's how it's gotta be. I'll see you guys tomorrow.

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I had two full bagels in the morning. And that's just public fodder. You guys don't need to know that. It's deeply embarrassing. And a standard protective order would keep how many bagels that I ate yesterday morning out of your eyes and ears. It's just not for the general public. But of course...

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The opposing side to the suit, plus the witnesses and the jurors, would be able to see that sort of information. OK, so that's just like too much for the public. But yes, we've got this because it's relevant to the case. Her financial records are relevant to the case. So attorneys eyes only is a different designation.

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It's essentially a request for documents that could indeed be extremely relevant to the case. And they're saying we only want this to be shared between the attorneys, not even with the parties to the suit. So that means, you know, Brian Friedman can see it. Their lawyers can see it. But we're talking like not even Melissa Nathan or Justin Baldoni could see it because it might be

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Very damaging to third parties. So to give you an example, if Brian Friedman subpoenas Taylor Swift's text messages, wink, wink, that's what I want. That's what I want to see. And it reveals that actually Taylor Swift was LOLing with Blake Lively about being a dragon. Yeah, I'm a dragon. Rawr.

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She was like plotting the takeover of the movie because she's bored and it's Tuesday and Jo Alwyn isn't responding to our text messages anymore and she's already finished her album. Well, Blake Lively's team is essentially requesting the rights for their attorney to just designate that AEO. Attorney eyes only because that might unfairly harm the reputation of Taylor Swift.

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So to be clear, if the judge actually grants that kind of a protection order, the attorneys would become the judge of what exactly could be designated AEO. Does that make sense? I hope that makes sense. I used a lot of examples there that were very strong examples. So let's revisit the language from Blake's initial filing asking to strengthen the protective order.

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So they filed this on February 20th, like I said, and it says the proposed P.O. differs from this court's model P.O.

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primarily by adding the following and attorney's eyes only category, which applies to confidential discovery material of such highly confidential and personal, sensitive or proprietary nature that the revelation of such is likely to cause a competitive business, commercial, financial, personal or privacy injury.

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Specific examples of categories of discovery material that may qualify as confidential or AEO discovery information in a case of this nature, including, for example, previously nondisclosed information unique to the entertainment industry, such as, for example, creative ideas or client relationships or information of a personal or intimate nature in a case involving high profile individuals and allegations of sexual harassment.

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Okay. So that's what they were alleging. This is really to protect these third parties. But they're also kind of saying that people are high profile, but also kind of trying to slide this idea that we're also protecting these because these are other victims of sexual harassment, which would be included in this. That's why we should definitely do this. So what ended up happening was yesterday,

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I announced on my Instagram yesterday that I had to take the day off because someone spoke to me improperly on the phone and I was deeply upset by this conversation and I was therefore incapable. I could not trust myself to go live or I would have just been naming names and I would have been ratchet and out of control.

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Justin Baldoni's attorneys got back regarding that filing and they basically called them out, as they always do. And I'm going to show you what they said. They said, given how actively the Lively parties have publicized and litigated Ms. Lively's claims in the media, we are surprised to now learn how vehemently she wants to prevent the public from accessing material and relevant evidence.

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The Lively parties provided The New York Times with Ms. Lively's otherwise confidential administrative complaint filed with the California Civil Rights Department and thousands of pages of original documents, including. including text messages and emails.

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So that's kind of like a pretty strong argument because they're saying we're just like to remind the public that it was clearly her team who leaked private text messages and leaked emails without any due process at all to the New York Times.

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So why are they coming at us pretending that like, oh, such a thing could potentially ruin careers when it seems like that's exactly what you were doing when you released these messages that only you had? Obviously, only you had them. And you're alleging that you received some of this via subpoena, whatever it is, but this was handed to The New York Times. They then go on to say that Ms.

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Lively's counsel and spokesperson routinely attempted to rehabilitate her tarnished image with making bold statements to the press. such as characterizing the Wayfarer parties as quote-unquote another chapter in the abuse playbook, or trying to convince the press that her amended complaint saves her meritless claims by referencing other purported victims, although she fails to name a single one.

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Worst of all, in a planned skit on NBC's Saturday Night Live 50th anniversary special, which attracted 15 million viewers, Miss Lively's husband, Ryan Reynolds, stood up and made a joke about her claims for sexual harassment and emotional distress. Yeah, it's a pretty strong argument. Now you're saying like anything being revealed to the public would be too much.

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But weren't you guys the one that like made like a whole movie? Deadpool about what was happening. Your whole thing was a publicity tour. You know, it's giving like a never-ending publicity tour, but I want my privacy Meghan Markle type vibes. Like, is there a little bit of a conflict between the words coming out of your attorney's mouths and your actions? That's what he is asking.

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And I want to say this, what he should have included, since I have now appointed myself a lawyer in this suit, not just a party and not just somebody who's a victim, but also a lawyer to the suit. I'm everything.

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I also find it interesting that they're trying to pretend that it's a case that they're essentially trying to protect people who may have been victimized by sexual harassment when it was actually Blake Lively in that initial filing. that said everything but the name, right? Like when she was trying to imply like, wink, wink, I'm not going to name Lily Bloom. She was like pulling the Kanye.

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And then one of you guys kind of rather hilariously pointed out to me on Instagram that my post was unnecessarily funny. honest. Like I could have just said, oh, I'm not feeling well today. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Or like my dog ate my homework. But clearly there's something wrong with me.

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I'm not going to say who it was. And then she just says it. She's like, I'm not, I don't want to name anybody else in this suit. But if you actually go back and review her initial filing from December 31st or December 20th, also her CRD complaint, She lets us know that it is Isabella Ferrer. It's almost laughable. I mean, look at this point, point 54 from her original filing.

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Mr. Baldoni added a detailed scene to the film in which the underage version of Miss Lively's character, Lily, loses her virginity. In both the book and the script, there was no sex scene. Instead, the details about this moment were left to the audience's imagination.

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But Mr. Baldoni added in considerable details, including both dialogue between young Lily and her boyfriend about the loss of her virginity, as well as a simulated sex scene in which Mr. Baldoni filmed and included in his initial cut of the film a close-up of young Lily's face accompanied by an audible gasp at the moment of penetration. Miss Lively was informed when this scene was shot.

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After Mr. Baldoni called cut, he walked over to the actor's chair and said, I know I'm not supposed to say this, but that was hot. Did you two practice that? We know that's Isabella Ferrer. Like, it's ridiculous. Then another point in the suit, she mentions a mutual friend, a quote-unquote another female cast member that's friends with Jamie Heath and Justin Baldoni. Liz Plank.

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She's basically saying everything. She's like, it's Schmish Schmank. It's Schmish Schmella Ferrer. Schleller. I'm not going to tell you who it is, but it rhymes with Schmish Schmella Schmerrer. and Sliz Slank. That's all I'm saying. So it's ridiculous for her to pretend that she was trying to protect these women.

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She was desperately trying to signal to the public by dropping not even Easter eggs, just pointed blanket statements like that. So it's a crap argument. The point of this filing is supposed to be for Taylor Swift. Again, I'm showing you that point when she talks about Liz Plank and her filing, making it very clear. It says here in point 10, on May 24, 2023, Ms. Lively confided in a text to a woman,

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who was a mutual friend of Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath. Quote, I was going to invite you to set tomorrow, these people. Whoa, it's like HR Nuts Day, the both of them. I wasn't expecting that turn. I mean, it's been present today, but I came home and cried. And so she talks about how she's creeped out, whatever it is.

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OK, I'm now at the phase of pregnancy where I'm just like a toddler, toddler honest or like 89 year old honest. You know, grandma, she says whatever she wants, like in wedding crashers. He's a homo. Like I'm there. Pregnancy does do this to people. And so, yeah, yesterday I got a phone call and it just sent me on a warpath. It was so crazy. It wasn't even that serious in the retrospect.

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I don't want your male gaze or your words or your tongue or your videos or your naked wife. Yeah, it's shocking clowns. And Liz Plank obviously was friends with Jamie Higgins, Heath and Justin Baldoni because they had the podcast together. So it's very obvious who she is referring to in all of these filings.

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And it is just pointedly ridiculous that she's pretending that the nature of these filings has anything to do with sexual harassment or sexual abuse, rather has to do with her trying to protect Taylor Swift. OK, so anyways, getting back to the response to this. So now Blake Lively's this gets to me. I'm coming up, guys. Hey, it's me. Hi, mom. Look, I made it. We're getting here.

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OK, so they then file also yesterday and they are basically arguing to their argument. They're saying, like, actually, here's the issue. It says the model P.O. So essentially, again, that is what Brian's team is saying that the court model P.O. is enough. We want nothing extra. And they're saying the model P.O. defines parties or parties as those who are parties to the action.

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It does not reference third parties or expressly apply its process to them. So they're saying it doesn't go far enough. Taylor Swift won't be protected. And OK, fine. I don't know if that's true. I'm not familiar with that language, obviously. But then they go on to say that the opposition ignores that the proposed P.O. would extend the right to designate materials as A.E.O.

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to parties and third parties alike, some of whom have already faced online harassment threats and attempted intimidation. So she's like, we need to extend P.O. these third party protections, because some of these people are already getting threats and intimidation and they're being bothered online. Yeah. Hey, genius lawyer, that defeats your whole argument.

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It means the public already knows who these people are. OK, so you're sitting here saying you've got to protect them. We know who they are because of your filing. So if they're already being like if you file this order, it's not going to stop millions of people in the world for saying from saying Isabella Farah, you should speak up. It doesn't extend to the world.

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So it's making your argument moot. Again, she has terrible emotional lawyers who don't think through the arguments that they're making. And then it says, This is always the emotional plea. They have to drop at least once in every filing that they're women. And it's making me sick, but it's fine. I'll read it.

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An interview with TMZ that Wayfarer, Justin and their representatives have no ill will nor vendetta against anyone who speaks up in any circumstance and have firsthand experience with an empathy for the struggles of going against incredibly powerful individuals.

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The moving parties respectfully suggest that the Wayfarer parties can actualize those professed goals, that is, to facilitate the pursuit of truth and to empower third parties, including the victims of sexual harassment, to stand up to incredibly powerful individuals. I find this to be hilarious because they are doing the exact opposite. They are actually trying.

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protecting incredibly powerful individuals. Like I said, I see right through this. This is the Taylor Swift protection order. I'm not calling anything different. It is a Taylor Swift protection order. She's a very powerful person. It is her who will have her brand. Her is the only relationship that they want to actually protect. Like I said, everyone else was just on the chessboard.

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All right, you guys, happy Wednesday. I know that Tulsi Gabbard just got confirmed and that is obviously huge political news. But also, you guys, Colleen Hoover just reactivated her Instagram account and she has apparently deleted all of the photos with Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds' school teacher. has just reached out to me. Plus, there has been movement in their court case.

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They conclude by saying this case involves a number of high profile individuals, including third parties. We intend to seek a protective order. There has been a significant amount of leaking to the media. We want to list all the parties from the beginning. So this was actually a very major thing to say that there's some part of the suit that has not been named yet.

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And we should have focused more on that language because what on earth are they talking about? Who's missing? Who is who's joining in as a potential willing plaintiff? To this case. And we have an answer. As I said, we had a tick tocker who had some tea. We had some tick tock tea on this. He sent me an email yesterday and he's been going viral himself covering this suit. So I did my thing.

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You know, I went through his tick tock and figured out everything about him and his great great great great great great grandparents to check him out. And there's an amazing fact here in that this TikToker, Marcos, who runs the Be Better company, actually was Team Blake Lively when this all began, right? So this is not somebody that, like me, was like instantly anti-me too.

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He was firmly on the other side. He very much is like, I... believe that we should listen to him when they file these complaints.

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He went through everything, thought that like what Blake Lively had been through was horrific, and then did this crazy thing called reading Justin Baldoni's countersuit and was like, listen, I know this is going to sound crazy, but everything that I'm reading here points to the fact that Blake Lively manipulated her audiences and lied to her audiences.

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And like, I'm kind of shocked as someone who fully believed her. And he took he did. He's basically as psychotic as me. Like he's like a TikTok with the receipts, read every single line of it like I did. And he put in part this like nine part series, which is amazing work done doing a deep dive on what exactly was in Justin Baldoni's case that made him turn.

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and realized that Blake Lively was not telling the truth and that it was going to be a very steep climb for them to explain why they misrepresented so many things in their initial filing. So he was Team Blake Lively. That's very important to understand. He was not biased against her in any way. And so what happened, and I can't tell you who the person was, but he got a very...

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strong tip from somebody regarding Jenny Slate potentially being brought into the suit. And what ended up happening was after he discussed this tip, and like I said, we have ways of knowing if this is legit, if it's coming from, you know, somebody close to the person around, you He confirmed like this is a legit tip to talk about.

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But then she asked him herself to play Ryle in the movie and things were great.

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He said allegedly when he wrote did put up this video on TikTok and the video ends up getting taken down. I'll tell you more about that in a second. But here is the tip that the Be Better Company's Marcos got regarding Jenny Slate. Take a listen.

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until blake lively right we actually had and i think we're still trying to pull it in this old clip of her discussing how amazing justin baldoni was because he didn't just want to take on this book project but it was important for him to understand uh the readers and the fans of the book what it was that they adored about these characters because he didn't want to disappoint them when he brought this to life uh chris were we able to pull that in we can we can show it later if not

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Plantation Khaleesi is quite the nickname for Blake Lively. So he posts this video and then it gets taken down from TikTok on February 6th. Right. And he told me that when he looked into why it got taken down, essentially they received some sort of a legal threat in the background that like They could go after them for something defamatory in the video.

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So social media companies are not here to investigate. They're not here to be judges and lawyers. But having a lawyer email you on behalf of a client, and if it's an A-list client saying, like, we're going to come after you, TikTok, for allowing this defamation to exist on the platform, they're not going to take a risk. They're not going to be like, I'm going to go with Marcos, right? Right.

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I'm going to be like, listen, this person seems like they have a lot of money. They got a lot of power. I'm just going to take this TikTok video down. And that's what happened. And he was infuriated about this. And he essentially started tagging Brian Friedman's team and saying like, hey, if you want like

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something that you should be looking into and potentially this could happen, you should be subpoenaing TikTok because if her entire argument is that Justin Baldoni and the Wayfarer team manipulated the press and she's doing the exact same thing right now, meaning she's upset about TikTokers coming out with information or believing that TikTokers are leaking information, well, then that kind of defeats her own argument.

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And so they I mean, not they. Marco somehow was able to get this video reinstated by basically saying a tick tock, which is ridiculous. This is free speech. He said allegedly he didn't say like this is confirmed. He said exactly how he heard it as a source. This is what journalism is called. This is what you do when you report.

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You get information, you give it to the public and you give them exactly how you receive that information, which is like this is allegedly but it's a strong source. So we should probably, by the way, that's a major, major, major clue here. And everything that I'm seeing indicates that he's right. So that language in that first hearing, we might add a plaintiff.

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We're going to ask them to accept service. But if not, then we'll just subpoena. It's like, OK, so is the plaintiff willing to do this? Or do you feel like you can get this person to join the suit? Or is this person fighting you? We don't know. So that's on February 6th. we should talk about Jenny Slate in general or why I just haven't even been speaking about Jenny Slate.

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Like, genuinely, I didn't mention her. She played some role in the movie. And she instantly, when Blake Lively filed her complaint, did not...

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mince words she didn't try to make it seem like she wasn't picking a side she strongly picked blake lively's side this was a statement she released she said as blake lively's castmate and friend i voice my support as she takes action against those reported to have planned and carried out an attack on her reputation blake is a leader loyal friend and a trusted source of emotional support for me and so many who know and love her

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What has been revealed about the attack on Blake is terribly dark, disturbing and wholly threatening, she added. I commend my friend. I admire her bravery and I stand by her side. OK, so the reason why I kind of ignored Jenny Slate in all this is because, like, I just get vibes from people and I just felt like that statement was just very theater kid. It was way too much.

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And it's like, I don't really need to care about this. There's something about her that just registered to me. And I don't say this in a derogatory way, but just doing too much. And I could imagine very simply that she got wrapped into this Blake Lively spell of just like, I'm going to be the most amazing person.

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The fact that she called an emotional support puppy, one of these people on a plane was like, I can't fly without my puppy. I just was like, it's too much. It's too much, too fast. And I just didn't think it was relevant to looking into everything. But I will say...

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It is likely that similarly, she was under this spell of the Reynolds family and she wanted to feel like the A-list love, like she just wanted to hang out with them one degree closer to Taylor Swift. Who knows, maybe Taylor Swift even sprinkled a little glitter on her at a concert.

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Okay, perfect. We'll have it soon. And so when you watch this clip and you see how much work he put into it, and there are those clips available of him sitting down at these tables and speaking to all of these fans, you go, what went wrong that suddenly Colleen Hoover...

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We don't know what the connection is there, but she probably believed Blake Lively and Blake Lively has proven, Ryan Reynolds has proven to be actually the smartest in the room and was likely manipulating her

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And it is likely, this is my guess, that Blake and Ryan have messages with her because if she's that dramatic in a release statement, she probably was even more dramatic in like just being the friend that supports your friend even when you know you're lying. Like women lie to each other. Like we have to be honest about this.

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This kind of gets into when I was going over like the fat acceptance movement and you would see like pictures of people like Lena Dunham wearing a bathing suit and like a bunch of women in the comments being like, you look amazing. And it's like, OK, why are we doing that? Because we want to make each other feel good. That's like what women do.

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We just want to be the emotional support to your friend. Like, you know, maybe her outfit doesn't look great. And she's like, how do I look? You look so hot. You know, you look amazing. It's just this weird thing that women do. I don't know why, but we lie to each other on the Internet. I see it all the time. I want to call it out.

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I want to be like the Internet police and be like, you know, that's not true. Stop supporting your friends when they're doing bad or harmful things. I think Jenny Slate, again, full opinion, full speculation, was that girl in the room. who just wanted to like support whatever Blake was saying. And she probably text her and was like, me too. You know, I felt weird and creepy too or whatever.

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So Blake and Ryan are all out of cards and they've got nothing to prove this right now. And they're like, could we get Jenny Slate, the friend that nodded her head and said yes to everything to us to join this lawsuit, to give it just a little bit more of a punch. I know it was two of us, two of us that felt that we were harassed on set sexually.

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Like, you know, Justin was just so into Jenny Slate, too. So into me. Also, he wasn't into me. I'm also accusing him of treating me fat. But don't worry about how those two things cancel each other out in this lawsuit. But like we have text messages with Jenny Slate and I do think she was just being the raw, raw, raw friend. She just gives me that vibe. So it's interesting.

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It's very interesting to to consider her as a potential piece of this. Again, he's saying allegedly, I know nothing of this. I was not contacted by anybody in potentially in Jenny Slate's orbit. But we can begin to look at what just happened. OK.

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So on February 10th, two days ago, Blake Lively's team, having just told them on February 3rd, like we're going to add new people to we're going to amend our complaint. We're going to add some new plaintiffs and maybe try to serve them. Then filed two days ago for an extension. They're like, actually, we're not going to be able to make that amendment dates due date of February 14th.

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didn't appear to be on his side, that she was content to walk the red carpet knowing, assuming that she knew, she obviously knew he wasn't there, that he was being put in the basement. And she definitely knew that he was not a part of all of these promos. Well, I'm not cutting anybody any excuses, but I now believe firmly that

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So I'm showing you what they filed. And I'm just going to take you to the relevant point points. Their lawyer wrote to dear Judge Lehman, February 14th, 2025 is the original default deadline for Miss Lively to file her amended complaint as a matter, of course, in relation to responsive pleadings of Wayfarer Studios LLC. Then they go on to say Ms.

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Lively respectfully submits that an extension for filing an amended complaint as a matter of course to March 5th, 2025 is warranted. So essentially this is due February 14th. We're asking you to extend until March 5th. And then the reason she lists here for why she needs that extension is bizarre. She says the modest extension will allow for Ms.

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Lively to address the extensive new facts and claims at issue in this litigation and Such an extension is also warranted, given that after counsel for Miss Lively informed the court on February 3rd that she intended to amend her complaint to additional parties and claims.

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One of those intended parties, Jed Wallace, along with his company Street Relations, filed an anticipatory and meritless 10 page complaint in the federal district court in Texas regarding issues that substantially overlap with the issues in this litigation. the additional time requested will allow Ms. Lively to address properly the procedural issues arising from this unmeritorious lawsuit as well.

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So she's saying, remember we talked about Jed, who she came after in her CRD filing. Well, Jed, and then she had to file that in Texas. Well, Jed responded similarly to Brian Friedman responding on behalf of Wayfair. But this is a totally separate suit that's happening in Texas. And she's trying to justify an extension because he filed... his response, what she would have had to do to her lawsuit.

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That makes entirely no sense. Anyways, because Brian Friedman is Brian Friedman, he hits them back pretty hard in his response. He writes back on behalf of Wayfarer and says, notwithstanding the lively party's inexplicable refusal to consent to a similar extension requested by the Wayfarer parties in the throes of the Los Angeles wildfires, shade,

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But then he hits her hard on this weird attempt to lie to the judge about Jed Wallace. He says... Unfortunately, the Lively Party's letter goes further than a simple request for an extension of time, leveling unnecessary and baseless attacks on non-party Jed Wallace and the litigation pending against Ms. Lively in the USDC for the Western District of Texas.

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What Lively Party's conspicuously failed to mention is that the now pending litigation in Texas... was precipitated by Ms. Lively, who initiated legal action against Mr. Wallace in Texas state court on January 21st, approximately two weeks before he filed his federal lawsuit in response.

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having worked through the preferred Reynolds style of abuse, that Colleen Hoover was similarly love-bombed by the couple. I think that's what they do. I think Brandon Sklenar, Colleen, Channing Tatum, Isabel Ferrer, everyone was love-bombed. They isolate the person they want to destroy. In this case, it was Justin Baldoni.

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While the Lively parties now claim that Mr. Wallace's Texas actions suffer from serious issues with respect to jurisdiction, In Ms. Lively's verified petition seeking a pre-suit deposition of Mr. Wallace, Ms. Lively acknowledges that the jurisdiction in Texas is proper given Mr. Wallace's domicile. So he's like, I have no idea why she's lying to the court.

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And then he attaches her initial petition in Texas. which is just so embarrassing, right? It's the same tactic that they're doing over and over again of trying to manipulate the courts to get what they want, thinking that people are not going to keep receipts. Like, hi, have you met Brian Friedman yet? I know I haven't, but I wouldn't try this game.

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I wouldn't try trying to manipulate Judge Lehman and trying to tell him, I need this extension because this guy jedged this crazy thing and filed somewhere. where he doesn't have jurisdiction, as if Brian Friedman is not going to pull up and be like, actually, you established his jurisdiction. You filed first in Texas and he's replying.

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And by the way, he's not a party to our case here in New York. That's what Brian Friedman did. He's just a savage. Brian Friedman is actually my spirit animal. Anyways, Judge Lehman responds to this order and he slaps down. He just slaps her down. I don't know what else to say. Probably because he doesn't like probably doesn't take kind to just being manipulated.

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You know, you should have been like, I want an extension because I don't have any proof. I need to potentially allegedly kind of try to get someone to join this suit. Please, Colleen Hoover, didn't you see something? Did you see him look at my butt? I don't know. Could you I don't know. Could somebody please just join in? Maybe maybe young Lily Bloom, Elizabeth Ferrer.

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So unfortunately, I am so sorry. I regret to inform you that I cannot be a political reporter today. OK, I have to suspend political news. You came here for politics. Again, I apologize. I've already failed you. But to the rest of us, to the rest of us. Welcome back to Candace. Like yesterday, I'm unpacking an entire ring in France.

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Did you see something that you didn't like? Like she's she's trying. They're essentially trying to lobby someone to give this thing some teeth. And so this is the judge's order. He comes back and he says, order granting in part and denying in part the letter motion for the extension of time to file. He added one day. So it's supposed to be February 14th.

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That's a Friday that their amended filing was due. He bumped it to February 17th, which is a Monday, which is also a holiday. So I think it's still February 14th. I don't know. But it would be over the weekend, which that would be the first Monday. And so, yeah, he gives an answer. The lively parties have not offered good cause for any further extension.

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And so maybe you just shouldn't have lied about why you needed the extension, because that's not a good cause to talk about what's happening in Texas. It has nothing to do with this case. So completely shut down. All right, guys, I got to get to talking to you about Ryan Reynolds teacher emailing me. OK, that that. It's it's interesting. It's very interesting.

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Or you can visit AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. Again, that's AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. Okay, now I want to get into... Just because I love psychology. I think that's also what has been so compelling about this case for so many women is that it feels like we are watching IDTV. There's something about it. Why are women drawn to criminal shows where we get to learn things?

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It's because we're constantly thinking about our safety. And there's something about this story that kind of violates our safety in a way of feeling like people were nice and then realizing that they were totally behaving like psychopaths and were doing something so far, taking it so far as Ryan Reynolds did.

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So anyways, we are learning some new things about Blake and Ryan because the Internet just keeps on digging and just keeps on finding stuff. And there was an interview that many of you tagged me in that resurfaced a couple of days ago. It's Blake Lively speaking at the Forbes Women's Summit. And this is from 2022.

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And she's just sort of casually discussing how, you know, she lies and she takes over movies. Take a listen.

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Yeah, I bet it did feel like a bit of a rug pull. I would say this. Blake Lively, I almost appreciate her because she doesn't know she's insane. Like, she doesn't know how insane that sounds. And whoever was sitting across from her had to nod and go along with this. And you're going, wait, you're basically saying you're a liar. You misrepresent who you are.

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And of course, there is some dark irony here that Colleen Hoover wrote this book about abuse, but seemed unable to pick up the abuse that was happening right under her nose. So she unwittingly I hopefully I should say unwittingly played along in this.

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Maybe that has something to do with why you're now being sued for promissory fraud because you're admitting that you go in there and you're like, yeah, I'd like to be an actor. And then you take over everything. I mean, imagine calling taking this out of the context of celebrities and you like call a plumber to come fix your toilet.

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And he's in there and he's like, hey, I'm actually going to reorganize your closet. And you're like, no, actually, I'm good. You just fix the toilet. And he's like, no, I'm here to be your dad. I want to be your dad now. You're like, no, I don't I don't want you to be my dad. I want you to fix the toilet. So I hired you for a job that I hired you for. And he's like, where's your baby?

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I want to hold the baby and burp the baby. And you're like, I don't need you to burp my baby. You're not my husband. Well, I can be more. I can be more than your plumber. I can be your husband. And you're going, what's going on? Why do I need to call the police? Why do I need to call Brian Friedman? This is insane. What are you talking about? She genuinely is not aware of how insane she sounds.

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And if you're wondering like, hey, Blake, if you want to be that person, if you want to be a director or if you want to be the writer, why don't you just go be that? You're allowed to be a director. You're allowed to be a writer. Just write. Well, actually, there's an answer to that. She had an interview, a written interview with Vogue that was released in August of 2024. And here's what she said.

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OK, by the way, it's amazing that she still is able to be bit bratty in this email when somebody asks her a totally basic question about her baking because she always speaks about her baking and it's all over her Instagram. But here's what she said to the interviewer. The interviewer writes, I ask if she writes. Blake tilts her head, suddenly curious.

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She plays with the big blue ring on her finger. My husband did an interview where they asked, what's something surprising that people don't know about your wife? And he said, it's that she's a writer. She writes on every movie she works on. And the interviewer said, and the baking and the baking, right? She's a great baker. It was just such an interesting moment.

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I don't know if it's a female thing or not, but they always want to talk about the baking. And then the writer said, I'm sorry I asked to bake together. I say a little abashed. I'm a little I'm a terrible baker. And then she says, why did you ask about the writing? I say the question occurred to me the night before.

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I had read about all of her creative endeavors and something about that restlessness felt familiar. Later, Fee will confirm that she worked to bring about her vision for a character. She did work on her dialogue to make that happen, he will say admiringly, and it just brought everything to life. I ask Lively if she would ever write something from scratch. She considers this.

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She allowed Justin and his family to be put in that basement and seemed open to the prospect, as we showed in that old interview with her and Blake of her getting her movie rights back. even though Wayfarer and Justin had already purchased the sequel rights, which I would love to be a part of the project.

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She says, quote, a blank page is not nearly as exciting to me as starting with a script and finding something people have overlooked, saying, no, no, no, there's something here. To me, it's a treasure hunt. And so when I can see the treasure, then I get to be an archaeologist. I get to excavate. I get to carve it out and find this thing and show people the value in it.

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That, to me, is what I want to—can't say that last word—have. what I love. OK, so she's essentially saying I like to just take over people's work. And that's insane. And that's crazy. And this is a reason why I think in the future people are just not going to work with her because it's starting to add up. People are realizing that this is a pathology.

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And regarding Ryan Reynolds, I have received, just to be clear, a ton of emails and tips about him, people that worked as his stunt double, people that worked as Blake Lively's stunt double. And I'm trying to bring to the public what I think is relevant in terms of this case. And I don't share everything because I'm Sometimes I think it's just unfair.

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Is that really relevant? Whatever. The saying that he smoked pot, by the way, to be clear there. These sorts of things don't seem relevant to me. But this one I thought was relevant. And I'm going to tell you why. It's because it is somebody that is sharing an experience from his childhood. It is also somebody who has to be at least 70 years old in order to have been the drama teacher.

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years old if they're literally just starting their career and had Ryan Reynolds in his class and felt the need to reach out. And I think Ryan Reynolds' childhood is actually relevant because Ryan Reynolds himself oddly interjected his childhood traumas into this entire thing.

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Remember in Deadpool, he's speaking about, oh, like, I got to address my childhood traumas, like making fun of Justin Baldoni. But then there was that really weird promo with his mom for It Ends With Us. And they started speaking about his relationship with his dad and how he had unresolved issues with his dad. So let's take a listen to what he says.

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You know, Blake said, if Colleen gets her book rights back, and again, I'm not providing any excuses for Colleen Hoover here, but I do think that strategy of love bombing would work because what they're thinking is, all we have to do, if you're Blake and Ryan, is imagine what these people want. What would be the biggest help to them? What are their biggest dreams?

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OK, so it was very weird. And like I told you in past interviews, Ryan has spoken about this like relationship with his father. And that's the reason why he's so insane and controlling. He's spoken about how it made him a bit of a control freak because his dad used to yell or whatever. Seems very clear if that's a circumstance Ryan is kind of becoming, maybe taking on some elements of his father.

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But this message arrived in my box and it's about his first drama teacher from when he was 13 years old. And I think it's interesting to share that. And again, this is going to be a much older person. I think that's relevant because there are two people who always tell the truth. And that's senior citizens and toddlers.

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They just get to a place where they just constantly are telling you the truth about everything and they don't care what anybody has to think about it or say about it. And so this individual wrote this. I'm cutting off the person's name, obviously, because I'm afraid Ryan Reynolds will go after him. It came in from Alberta, Canada. He said it may be an odd thing. I was his first acting teacher.

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True. Summer 1989, he was 12. His parents had gone on a vacation. So grandparents he was left with had him for three weeks, as I recall. After a week, they enrolled him in my classes, essentially, as I found out, because they needed a break from him. Then the first three days I had had enough. The other kids had had enough and their parents were complaining because everything was about him.

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Self-centered, loud, sneaky, obnoxious, narcissistic, unkind and deceitful. I spoke to the grandparents that he needed to abide by the expectations or I'd punt him and give them a refund. The next day, same old. So I kicked him out. Two days back with the grandparents, they begged me to take him back. So I set on a couple of conditions.

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I drew up a quote unquote contract, essentially reiterating the initial expectations, but adding so behavioral things I had noticed, some behavioral things I noticed that needed to be addressed. And he had to write an apology letter to the class and either read it to the class or memorize it and present it to the class like a script. And if the other students said no, then no, it would be.

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But I did hold the final say. I work with kids in mental health. I have for decades. This was nothing new to me. So he returned. The kids were a bit shocked, but he was on probation. And then he was asked, Ryan, is there something that you'd like to say to other students here? Yes, if I may. He got up. Audience of 15 plus kids. Paper in hand.

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He glanced down at it, started to read it, then stuttered, cleared his throat, swallowed, then started without the paper.

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tears started to well in his eyes i'm so sorry that i heavy breathing selfishly stole time from you all as mr david was trying to teach us all about acting and i made it about me and and i just want to say that i will do my best to listen and we'll try really hard not to interrupt

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tears now and it's just that nobody really listens to me so sniff i will try try try my best to be better sorry full tears the kids were on their feet over to give him a hug etc can he come back to our class please so i said yes A few minutes later, he passes by me and under his breath utters, I was acting. It's very scary. I don't know. So I stopped him from walking away and I whispered, I know.

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How do we help them realize those dreams? So for Brandon Sklenar, We know, it's not confirmed that they helped, but we know that during this time period, he signed with WME, the biggest agency in the world. And he's not that big of an actor, but that happened for him suddenly. We know with Colleen Hoover, it was probably likely this pitch of, you should own your book rights.

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I guess he had learned something, but there was a streak in him. I wouldn't trust him. I didn't know if it was evil, insecurity, a ton, fear, psychopathy, arrogance, or just a sociopath. But he was 12. He never says he took an acting course. He turned 13 in October. He had the it factor. I think I still have his first headshot in a box somewhere with 100 other kids that I taught.

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I just felt like I should share that. I don't know that one for some reason to me. First off, it's the fact that like there is some issues in his background or whatever, which he has admitted in these weird skits.

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But the other thing was just like the ability to switch on and to have a teacher who has a background in mental health, which I was able to confirm, believing that there was some sort of a pathology that was driving that and that he's had that for a very long time.

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Interesting enough to share, weird, and I just feel like that's creepy to be crying in front of a class teacher and be like, I was acting. Everything that you just saw was not real. It's just giving serial killer dressed as an actor. I'm not saying Ryan's a serial killer. I'm just saying if he wasn't an actor, where would Ryan be? That's all I'm saying. Anyway. Anyways, that is enough about that.

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Also, we have A Simple Favor, which is coming up soon, coming out. That is the sequel, A Simple Favor 2, featuring Anna Kendrick. There's a ton riding on that. You know, the comments, people are enraged that this project is going forward. Poor Anna Kendrick has nothing to do with anything. But it's going to be interesting to see what happens with that movie when it is released.

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When you were at Daily Wire, this was over there that there may have been some episodes that are not on the website just yet. Like on I think they were asking about Rogan. Yes, you are correct. We're releasing it on a schedule of every two weeks before I shoot the next season. And then we have the birth control series, which has never been seen. So all of that is coming out. Don't worry.

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You should own the sequel rights. We want to help you do that. Maybe they were going to take a piece of the production company. Who knows? We know with Channing Tatum, it was Gambit, this role that he had dreamed of since he was a child. And I just went along with I think all of these people went along with it, not perceiving that there was evil afoot.

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1067 of you joined at CandaceOwens.com. And it just was amazing to just know that I have a little tribe of people that I can just talk about conspiracy theories with. That was very fun. If you'd like to join our book club, we are reading Chaos right now.

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It was just an introductory first meeting, so you didn't miss too much other than me being excited to be there and speaking about just that time and the place of what was going on in America when these Manson murders took place and how this book ripped me into a new reality. So don't miss the opportunity to join the book club. Head to CandaceOwens.com. Let's see what you guys are saying.

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Christina says... Please capitalize on all your new followers, Candice, and reshare the Balenciaga or re-highlight it or draw attention to it, anything. There are so many who aren't aware of the evil of that brand. So much love for your hard work. Listen, girl, I am capitalizing, forget Balenciaga, all of Paris right now in our podcast.

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Becoming Brigitte series, which actually includes these brands. LVMH, we talked about already. I have not yet gotten to Yves Saint Laurent. And it is insane when you learn what's going on with these brands. It wasn't just Balenciaga. And I should have saved that. You're right. Highlighted that. on my reel. But there is so much more to talk about.

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And if you guys are not yet invested in the Brigitte Macron series, you should be. It's really amazing. I hate to say that as my own work, but it is something that I was so drawn to. And it's not it actually isn't my own work. That's kind of the point. You know, I'm just presenting what was the work of Xavier Poussard, but it is all interconnected.

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I am telling you guys and just being shocked at the level of deceit that a government can execute upon the people similar to our theme of the book club. It wakes us all up in a way that I think brings us all together. It's really important stuff. Max writes, it's after 8 a.m. Thursday now. My mornings and weekdays are Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh and then Candace.

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Just so you know, I am so much better than Michael Knowles. And when you go there, you tell him that I said that. That's I'm just kidding. That's all love. Michael Knowles is actually the godfather to my child. This is like, you know, the Catholic gang gang. Love Matt Walsh. Love his family. Love Michael Knowles. He writes, can't wait for you to visit Australia.

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We have a gap in conservative thought since Tucker last year. last year, last year, was here last year. I think you're trying to say bless you. I can't wait to be there either. And it's going to be quite a big thing if we win in the Supreme Court of Australia, the High Court of Australia. Yuka writes, God bless you from Japan. I just visited Tokyo this earlier last year.

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OK, so just to basically recap here, when Blake filed her CRD complaint on December 20th, Colleen Hoover made her support of Blake Lively clear to the public. She said, stopped short of throwing Justin Baldoni under the bus.

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It was October of last year. She writes, appreciating all that you do for speaking out on the truth and the corruption of the world. Tokyo is a wonderful place. I had a great time in Tokyo. Definitely a memorable trip that I had been wanting to do my entire life. Becca writes, God bless you for your work. It always keeps me entertained during my daughter's nap time. Top tier journalism.

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Thank you, Becca. Irma de Santiago writes, thank you for supporting Justin. Please promote the release of his movie. His cut deserves to be seen. He hasn't released it, so I can't promote it. But I have promoted everything else that Wayfair has in the works, particularly the I think it's I, Eleanor, Eleanor the Great with Scarlett Johansson. I intend to go see that movie.

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So other than that, though, I don't know what else I could be promoting of him other than justice for Justin Baldoni. Tanya writes, God bless you, Candace, for speaking the truth about Gaza and for being a good human. Thank you so much.

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Yes, I use my platform to speak out about what's happening in Gaza because I'm not OK with what our government is doing, how our government has engaged in this left and right has been deceitful to the people. And we are being lied to by the mainstream media about what what the Gazans have gone through and have been going through for a very long time.

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Caroline York writes, is Gaza the biggest transaction ever? Are those climate disasters related with the smart cities more control? I love Melania. She's the best. Thank you, Candace, for everything. Christ is king. Yes. Treating human beings like real estate.

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I believe that this was all a part of the plan, including October 7th, given the commentary that we can go back and watch Bibi Netanyahu before October 7th ever took place of him saying that we need to deliver a pain that is so hardcore today. And to hear him say this stuff and say, cut off the cameras, lets you know that this is like everything that we're watching right now is just a show.

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And this was always the final intention, I think, to simply ethnically cleanse the region. And I'm not OK with it. Reality T writes, this is wild. Thank you, Queen Candace. We have literally left the circus and entered the zoo. At least at the circus, the animals are trained. Also, did Khaleesi's dragon unalive her in the end? You know, it didn't end well.

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Her lover actually unalived her in the end. And that's not I don't want that for her. Actually, we should not even think about that because Ryan Reynolds makes me very nervous. He makes me very nervous. Can't explain it. I am unnerved by Ryan Reynolds and his behavior throughout all of this, seeing and reading his text messages. It's like a little too close to the celebrity fire.

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But her statement was definitively loud and clear, especially given the fact that she attended all of the promos and the screenings with Blake and Brandon leading up to the film's release. And it felt very much, if you were watching everything, like basically they established the cool kids table, so to speak. Justin was nowhere. They wanted him to feel alone.

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By the way, prediction, Taylor Swift is now going to disappear. She's going to disappear. And I hope that Brian Friedman calls her because I'm telling you she had more involvement than she is letting on. She's not innocent in this. I just am reading the tea leaves there. And I think that she helped them significantly.

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And if she gets subpoenaed, it's going to be very problematic for her and her brand. Anyways, you guys, that is it. We will see you guys tomorrow. We'll be jumping back into the Becoming Brigitte series. It is not too late to start that series. I am telling you, it is extremely compelling. You'll be into it.

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Also, if you want to support us, you can now buy Make Him a Sandwich, my sophomore book, super exciting. You can just head to CandiceOwens.com and you will get a discount if you get it now while it's on presale. Better to buy it now when it's cheaper than when it's full sale, right? Totally agree. All right, guys, see you tomorrow.

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He was not allowed to sit with the cool kids. OK, so Colleen posted this in response to that filing. She wrote, Blake Lively, you have been nothing but honest, kind, supportive and patient since the day we met. Thank you for being exactly the human that you are. Never change, never wilt. OK, so she didn't exactly throw him under the bus. But how is the public supposed to read that?

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We're reading that you support her. So to some degree, you must believe her. Not that there's not a reason that you wouldn't believe her. But did you hear out Justin? By the way, we just got that clip of her speaking about Justin before all of this. So here is Colleen Hoover before she got Blake-ified. Take a listen.

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She adored Justin. She did. I'm sorry. She absolutely adored Justin. We could show you clip after clip after clip. Obviously, you can read the lawsuit and see the emails. And then, like I said, she got Blake-ified, Reynolds-ified. And suddenly she's in love with Blake in so much that she's allowing Justin to be treated terribly. That's the way the public is reading this and their right to read it.

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that way. Suddenly, Justin files his countersuit and there's major backlash against her for having supported Blake but not having said anything about Justin. And really, this happened because of mommy sleuths, right? Like, we pieced together what started to look like

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Sending your young son to school in elementary school only to discover that there's a bunch of cool kids in the cafeteria that are mocking him and like throwing food at him. You know what I mean? It's like throwing food at him, calling him a loser. And then you find out he's been eating alone in the classroom with the teacher ever since. It's just heartbreaking. And you're going, why?

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Why is this happening to him? And so the tables turned very quickly against Colleen. People expected her to then now give a more informed answer, a more informed response as to how she could have gone along with with what is appearing to be such obvious forms of bullying. And so Colleen deactivated her Instagram on January 21st.

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I'm like going to war with the French president, trying to expose all the connections. Today, I am back in Hollywood, similarly doing the same thing. For those of you who understand, corruption is corruption. Evil is evil. And you have to focus on it. And we also need to stop being so ADHD where we're only into stories at the very beginning of them and we never see them through.

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And she has now just reemerged and she's cleaned out her Instagram page. She has without question deleted five Instagram posts and the Internet. is certain that these were all of the Instagram posts of her and Blake Lively.

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Essentially, not that she's posting of Justin Baldoni, not that she has moved to refollow Justin Baldoni, but it seems like she's taking at least a more neutral stance on Instagram. So how do we know for a fact that she deleted five posts? Well, in case you guys don't know, there is this amazing website called Social Blade.com. socialblade.com.

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It provides you with accurate statistics regarding followers and posts on any social media profile. All you have to do is put the handle in, whether it's Twitter, whether it's Instagram, and it will shoot you back so you can actually see how people are performing. Are they gaining followers? Are they losing followers? Are they following people? Are they not following people?

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It allows you to observe those trends. I guess it's kind of stalkerish, but it makes sense for businesses of why you want to look into these stats sometimes to see how you're performing. And so here is Colleen's Social Blade, which shows you on that right-hand side, media for the last 30 days. She's removed five of those posts that she had up. And so that's incredibly interesting.

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But we should also, by the way, take a look at Social Blade while we're there and note the consequence, right? Okay. That is not a small amount. Okay. If you similarly go over to Ryan Reynolds, he's lost almost the same amount, a thousand more than her, 398,000 subscribers.

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This is the internet answering and telling you what they think about the situation, especially when you weigh it against Justin Baldoni. Look at his statistics. Over the last 30 days, he has received 206, or you could almost say 207,000 additional followers. So in the court of public opinion, they've lost. OK, so you can ask the question, why did Colleen delete these posts?

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Well, some people are speculating, well, she's read through things and now she's on Justin Baldoni's side. I don't feel that way because she hasn't made a strong enough statement. She has not made a statement in his favor. She should make a statement in his favor because the proof is overwhelming. And she has, I guess you could say, established her brand as someone who is anti-abuse.

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I think it's really important to now stake a horse in this race and say, I obviously was completely manipulated and maybe, you know, Rightfully manipulated and we could agree and say, OK, well, if Blake came to her after love bombing her and said, I've been abused, maybe Colleen actually did just legitimately believe her and did something that wasn't being motivated by anything other than belief.

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Right. But she's not doing more than that. And so I don't like I said, this feels a little bit like a cop out. And I think it's more likely that what she's doing here is trying to stay out of it. This is the Taylor Swift movement. This is likely a legal strategy. I don't want to be involved in this case. Impossible.

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Like we need to bring back true investigative reporting where people do not stop until the evil is rooted out. And this story, obviously, it bears all of the signs, the telltale signs of true evil in which we all must root out, okay? So there's a lot going on right now in Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively world. I obviously have the inside scoop because I've been obsessively following this.

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Without question, she's going to be called to take the stand and to speak about Justin's behavior. But I think she doesn't want to be pulled in beyond that. I really do believe that if you are her PR team, if you're her agents, if you are her lawyer, you are saying to her, you need to be neutral. You need to stay out of this thing. This is not good for you.

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It's not good for your future, which is going to get ugly very fast. And it has the ability to ricochet and to harm you as well. And I wanted to note this, by the way, in terms of speaking about that legal strategy. We have to go back to February 3rd. Remember, that was when they had the first hearing before Judge Lehman in New York.

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The first time the lawyers for all of the parties to the case were meeting. And there were some very important things that were brought up. So I'm going to show you this portion of the transcript from that court hearing because it's very relevant to what might be taking place here. I got a TikTok tip. Wow, that was amazing to say. I want to say it again.

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I got a TikTok tip and had a conversation with somebody who runs the Be Better Company. You guys might know him, Marcos. We're going to get to him in an email that he sent me. But so in the lead up to this moment of the transcript that I'm going to show you, that February 3rd showdown, this was obviously when Blake Lively's lawyers wanted to have Brian Friedman gagged. That didn't happen.

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They kind of told him he needed to chill. He hasn't really chilled, by the way. He's still doing interviews with TMZ, but essentially he can't do anything that might harm the jury pool is what they said to him. But there was an interesting back and forth between Blake Lively's lawyers.

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So leading up to this moment, just so you're not completely lost, they were discussing whether or not to consolidate or deconsolidate the cases with The New York Times and also discussing the recent amendment that the Wayfarer legal team had filed, which essentially they filed that amendment, included The New York Times little tidbits and like the data from The New York Times and

Candace

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And also were accusing Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds of promissory fraud. So it wasn't like a major amendment, but it was a significant amendment that they would need time to respond to. So this is what happened in the courtroom. Wilkie Farr said, and by the way, this is Wilkie Farr, our Blake Lively's lawyers. If you want to read along here, they said.

Candace

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Our plan at Docket 49 is no longer feasible. Counsel for Wayfarer did not tell us that they planned to file an amended complaint, including a 168 compendium, which is essentially all those text messages. There is authority to deconsolidate the cases. The Times may have its own views. We'd like to confer.

Candace

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Given that the Wayfarer parties added a new defendant, we have contemplated amending our own complaint. We have two weeks to do it. We think we can still make the trial date of March 9th, 2026. OK, so essentially they're just saying they're like they amended and like we may be amending as well to add some new parties. So Judge Lehman asks that for clarification.

Candace

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Judge Lehman says you are suggesting you'll add new parties by next Friday, February 14th. How quickly would you serve them? Okay, so he's like, this is due on February 14th. They're saying you can make this happen on February 14th. And Wilkie Farr responds and says, we'll ask them, meaning the parties that they're planning to add to this case, to accept service.

Candace

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So let's start with Colleen Hoover, okay? That is the author of It Ends With Us, who... Text messages, emails, interviews, all of all of the proof that is out there in the public shows us that she positively adored Justin Baldoni. She asked him herself. Initially, he was just getting involved with this project because of the book.

Candace

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If they say no, we'll immediately start trying to serve them. It's a very interesting sentence because they're basically saying, We're going to just ask some plaintiff to join this willingly, so we're not going to have to worry about delivery of service. We'll just say we're sending the person now. You're going to receive this, and now you're a plaintiff to this case formally.

Candace

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But if they say no, which suggests that, like, they don't really know whether this is going to be a receptive—pardon, I'm saying plaintiff—yeah, a plaintiff to this case, then we'll start trying to serve them. Essentially, we're just going to, like, force them into this, okay? Yeah. Then he goes on and Wilkie Farr's attorneys say there's one set of lawyers on the other side.

Candace

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There will be numerous depositions, including on the false light claims. Discovery will involve issues typical in sexual harassment cases and communications by defendants and their agents and the media, including people who may have been paid. I don't know why they say that. No one's been paid. Truly, we all just don't like what Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds have done.

Candace

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All right, guys, happy Tuesday. And a question for you. It's been one that's on my mind all the time, perpetually, whether we're covering Justin Baldoni or whether we're diving into this new series. What should be the consequence for false allegations? Right.

Candace

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And what I love about this is they have to play sort of a journalist game of Twister because they've spent the last six months calling me anti-Semitic only to find out that I've been speaking to Harvey Weinstein and basically believe that he was wrongly convicted. And so they try to, like, connect the dots here.

Candace

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This is Damon. And he says, if we can go to the next page. Now, this is July 13th through the 15th. Do you see that? She says, yes, yes. Now, you said you didn't have any contact with Harvey Weinstein when you were in California. She replies, I said I didn't recall. Well, do you remember what happened if you went to the peninsula when you were in California? It looks like I did. Yes.

Candace

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And do you do you know Harvey Weinstein to have frequented the peninsula? Not particularly. No. Do you know what was crossed off before the peninsula? No. No. If you look up there, it has the name Dan. Right. So he's showing her, just to be clear, her own calendar. Right. And it has a phone number, doesn't it? Yes. And that's Dan Guando's phone number, isn't it? I don't know.

Candace

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I believe if you say so. We can go to the next page here. And Dan Guando is Harvey Weinstein's assistant, isn't it? Yes. So when you are in California on the 13th, the 14th and the 15th, you are in contact with Harvey's assistant. OK. She replies and just says, OK. He says, well, I'm asking you. Potentially, I don't remember the conversations.

Candace

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If it is in your calendar, you had to have written that. She replies, it doesn't say that there was a phone call. It has a number. He says, and you would have gotten that number while you were in California, correct? I don't know. I don't recall getting the number, so I don't know when I got it. We can at least agree it's on July 13th, 14th, or 15th, or at least on that page, correct?

Candace

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Page referring to the page in her calendar. Not necessarily. That's just where I wrote it. And you wrote it on the page for July 13th, 14th or 15th. Correct. And if we can turn to the next page. And who is Colin Callender? This is very important because she's now seeing an entry on her calendar. She's written the name Colin Callender. She answers he is somebody who was working at HBO.

Candace

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And you met with Colin Callender while you were in California to pitch something. No, to ask for work, I think. To ask for work. Potentially, yes. That's on July the 17th, correct? It looks like it, yes. And then at the bottom, it says 10 o'clock p.m. hospital letter, baby. No, it says Cedars, Cedars-Sinai. I apologize. But that is when your child, your friend's child was born, correct?

Candace

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Like, oh, this Jewish guy who gave a lot of money to the ADL in Canada has been working. Maybe it's because I just fight for truth no matter what, and I don't really care what anybody looks like. And... Anyway, so as a part of this article, Gloria Allred, they went to her. I declined to comment because it's not relevant to me. And I just see Gloria Allred for exactly what and who she is.

Candace

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Yeah, the next day, actually. But yes. So you were still in California at that time, yes? And that was still on the ticket that Mr. Weinstein had provided for you, correct? Yes. And if we can go to the next date. So, ma'am, we discussed a little bit earlier how sometimes you draw things on your calendar to reflect your mood.

Candace

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On the 20th, the 21st, and the 22nd, you drew some more hearts and some flowers, correct? Yes. And you went to the spa? Yes. And what's Julie and Forge? Julie Byrds. Julie Byrds? That's probably a dinner with Julia Byrds.

Candace

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Okay, so the purpose of this is he is showing that it looks like she's had some communication with Harvey Weinstein because not only, and again, we can pull up this timeline that I made, not only does she allege that he horrifically you know, sexually assaulted her on July 10th. But now we're learning that for whatever reason, she went to the peninsula. She can't remember.

Candace

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It looks like she had some correspondence with Dan, the assistant, but she can't remember. But what we can confirm is that she took a meeting with Colin Callender from HBO and she could have only gotten that contact from, well, Harvey Weinstein, because as you see, he is the former president of HBO. OK, so the former president of HBO.

Candace

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So it's looking like on Harvey's dime, and again, I'm just reading this common sense, on Harvey's dime, she went to LA. She's drawing hearts in her calendar. It doesn't seem to be, she's testified earlier that she draws hearts and stuff to demonstrate her mood. She doesn't seem to be in the mood, I think is what Damon is implying here, of someone who just survived a horrific assault.

Candace

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Because even if they're discovered, even if we get to the end of it and we realize, OK, Justin Baldoni was telling the truth, there is going to be some consequence to his life no matter what. Just being, you know, driven through the press in this manner, having so many people form opinions about you. Can you really just recover from your life even if at the end you're exonerated?

Candace

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And she's meeting with people that Harvey presumably put her into touch with. there for two weeks and then she returned on July 24th to New York City from California. And then we see that she has an entry on her calendar to CHW, okay?

Candace

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This gets into the next assault, the one that we spoke about yesterday on July 26th, just two weeks later, she says that Harvey assaults her again at the Tribeca Grand Hotel. And we should get into this testimony about this because it is crucial. So I'm gonna pull this up on my laptop so I can read through it a little bit closer. This starts on page 1700.

Candace

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It starts with, if we can go right, let's look at line number 16 here. And he says, he says a question. Okay. At some point, Mr. Weinstein gets in touch with you and you put that in your calendar for a meeting at 5 o'clock p.m. in Tribeca Grand Hotel, correct? Yes. And then you schedule a dinner after that with your friend Christine. Is that Christine Pressman? Correct.

Candace

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Christine Pressman was a friend of yours that lived in New York, correct? A friend of yours that you keep in touch with throughout the summer of 2006, correct? Yes. And the state asked you some questions about what was going through your mind when you got that invitation to go to Harvey Weinstein's hotel. Do you remember those questions? Generally, yes.

Candace

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And I was reading this excerpt from that article. It reads, in statements to The Hollywood Reporter attorneys for some of Weinstein's more than 80 accusers, downplayed the value of the Owens-Weinstein effort, emphasizing that the producer has repeatedly opted not to testify under oath in his defense. Gloria gives this quotation.

Candace

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Okay, we are going to get into the specifics of that. But on the 26th of July, you had sex with Harvey Weinstein, correct? There was sex with Harvey Weinstein, yes. And if we can go to the next day real quick, yes. And if we look at the calendar again, and I'm just going on what you told me, you said you draw hearts to sort of reflect your mood.

Candace

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Is that reflective of your mood on July the 27th, the 28th, and the 29th? It may have been. OK, so she's had sex with him. She's admitted that this particular time, by the way, she's not saying that she said no or that she refused. And now he is showing he's demonstrating that she drew hearts on her calendar in the days following this second sexual encounter. She says, it may have been.

Candace

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Now we can go back to the 26th, please. Now you said you went to the Tribeca Grand and Harvey called you, right? Yes. Correct. I don't remember the phone call. Do you remember testifying in front of the grand jury? Do you remember him at least initiating this? I am sorry. Do you remember him initiating a call or initiating a request for you to come to the Tribeca Grand? Certainly. It wasn't me.

Candace

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Yes. And at that point, you had some options, right, as to whether to go or not? Yes, I did. You told the jury that after Harvey Weinstein assaulted you on July the 10th, you had thought about some of those options, correct? Yes. to do with the assault, yes. And the options that you discussed and thought about, one of them was to call the police, correct? Correct.

Candace

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Okay, one of them was to out him publicly for what you say he did, correct? The thought crossed my mind, yes. And it is your testimony that the reason that you didn't call the police was because you worked on Project Runway for a week and you were worried that you would have a problem with your visa. It was a little bit more than a week. Three weeks? Yes. So whatever it was, yes.

Candace

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In fact, I was told that you could even get barred from entering the country even on suspicion that you wanted to stay or work in the United States. When did you hear that? I have been told that. That's just what I have been told. Were you told that before July of 2006? Yes. Okay, yet you came anyway. I was very aware.

Candace

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Okay, so essentially he's just showing that she had an option here to just not go to Harvey's apartment. She alleges that she had all of these different, you know, she wasn't compelled essentially to go to the apartment on July 26th. But she says that, remember I told you yesterday that she was kind of going there because she wanted to face the magic, so to speak.

Candace

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And then she was totally shocked that she put herself in a predicament to have sex with him. And then where it gets really crucial here is that he specifically says, and this is at the top of page 1704, he didn't force you to have sex at the Tribeca Grand, did he? And she said, I didn't physically resist, but I felt that, yeah.

Candace

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Did you remember testifying before the grand jury that it wasn't forced? Correct, because I didn't resist. OK, so you get a call to meet Harvey Weinstein from somebody and you arrive at the hotel and it's your testimony that there was a, you know, an assistant or somebody who was there. So he's setting this all up and you're recognizing that, OK, this woman went by her own accord.

Candace

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She says that all of this happened and she's not really sure like why she went back, but she was completely devastated. So July 26th. She is saying, even though she didn't resist, she also recognizes that it's still kind of a form of assault because it's not what she wanted to happen, which is why what becomes super crucial is what she did after the 26th, okay?

Candace

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He points out that on July 27th, she has another entry, OK, another entry on her calendar, which she has once again removed from her calendar. And she's stricken it from the records to call Dan Guando about tickets. OK, Dan Guando again being Harvey Weinstein's assistant.

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I think that what really matters at this point is the evidence that will be admitted in his next criminal trial, said Gloria Allred. My guess is that the only evidence that may be explosive would be his testimony.

Candace

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So she has this unwanted encounter on July 26th and yet on July 27th, according to her own calendar, she calls Dan Guando about tickets. Now, if you're wondering what tickets are we referring to, we are referring to tickets to Vegas. Once again, Harvey Weinstein is going to fund Mimi, Miriam Halei, to go on another trip, this time to London. So if we get back into the page of 1710...

Candace

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He says on line 10, let's go to the next calendar. Can we blow that up, please? Did you go to dinner with Miss Pressman afterwards? Meaning after your next little sexual non-wanted adventure, she doesn't recall. Her answer is, I don't recall, okay? It's amazing when she gets amnesia and when she has clarity of mind, in my view. Question. This is the very next insert on your calendar, Ms.

Candace

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Halehi, am I correct? Yes. We already talked about the hearts being up there. The next day it says, call Dan about ticks. Did I read that correctly? Yes. You know that's Dan Guando. Yes. And the ticks you were talking about were tickets that Harvey Weinstein agreed to give you to fly to London on August 2nd, correct? Perhaps I don't remember the exact conversations or the yes, probably.

Candace

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So you do agree that on August 2nd, you flew to London, correct? I would have to be refreshed. If we can shoot it over one JFK to London, correct? Yes. And you know that Harvey Weinstein paid for that ticket, don't you? I know that now. Yes. Well, you knew it then too, didn't you? I knew it then, but I didn't remember particularly until I was shown.

Candace

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So did you talk to Mr. Weinstein at the Tribeca Grand about him flying you to London? I don't remember. Days later, I don't remember that conversation. You didn't talk to him in L.A., according to you, correct? I don't recall talking to him in L.A. And then when you get back, you talk to him at the Tribeca Grand. I talked to him at the Tribeca Hotel.

Candace

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If Mr. Weinstein decided to testify under oath and subjected himself to cross-examination by the prosecution, given that he has not taken the witness stand in his last two criminal trials in New York and California, I am doubtful that he will choose to testify this time. And then another one of the lawyers on this case, lawyer Dave Ring, basically says the exact same thing.

Candace

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You told this jury you remember the names that he called you, correct? Yes. And then on the next day, if we can go back to July 31st, it says, call Dan for ticks, right? OK, yes, the ticks we are referring to are the tickets that Mr. Weinstein bought you to go to London. Can we agree with that? Yes. So this is very important, obviously, because this continually happens.

Candace

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So she has an assault that took place on July 10th. And the next thing we know, she's on a plane and she's going to Los Angeles and she's seeing her friend there and she's meeting with executives that Harvey has. presumably put her in touch with. I don't think that she herself would have had contact with a president, someone who holds a presidential title over at HBO.

Candace

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Then we have this second assault. Again, these are the two that has put Harvey in prison for 20 years. And this time she's off and she is in London just a couple of days after this. So what's happening here, guys? Is this really someone who... is being victimized by Harvey Weinstein, or are they in some sort of a relationship? I don't know. I'm leaving this to you.

Candace

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Again, let's jump right back into the timeline, okay? She tries to scratch that August 31st memory. You can pull up a timeline, Skylar. She tries to scratch that August 31st memory. from the record. She sends the email on the next entry. The next thing that happens is on September 8th, she sends an email, okay?

Candace

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So this is a couple of weeks after her next unwanted encounter that she didn't say no to, but it was unwanted. And on September 8th, she sends an email to Dan saying that she's back in London and that she's bummed that she missed Harvey while he was in London. So I'm going to read that email. Hi, Dan, how are you? So I'm back in London and totally bummed to have missed you guys.

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I tried to change my flight till Friday, but I couldn't. So if you're coming back anytime soon, please let me know. Also, it would be great to know when Catwalk might start shooting if I have a spot for All the best, Miriam. So again, that is Harvey's assistant, and she is asking again for another job.

Candace

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Catwalk is the British version of Project Runway, and she is saying this after having survived two unwanted encounters, one egregious assault from Harvey Weinstein. Then she emails him again on October 23rd. The context of this email doesn't make sense to me. And this just says, was it something I said? We can pull that up. The subject line says, what happened?

Candace

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And then it says, was it something I said? Again, the reason why all of these emails are going through his assistant is because that's the only way Harvey Weinstein emails. Everyone has to email through his assistant, and then his assistant sends him just one email with everybody's emails, and Harvey tells the assistant how to reply to it. And so I'm guessing that...

Candace

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The reason she wrote, was it something I said, was that she didn't get a response perhaps, but I have no idea what the context is of that email, but I'm just letting you know. She reaches out again on October 23rd. Maybe she's saying, I didn't get the position on Cat Walker. You guys never followed up with this, but I can't be sure about that.

Candace

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The next time that she reaches out to the man who has assaulted her twice is just a few weeks after that on November 6th. And this time she meets Weinstein at a hotel again. Unbelievably, on November 6th, she meets him at a ritzy hotel called Claridge's, which is in London. And she alleges that she went there to pitch a project to him.

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He's representing Jane Doe One in the Los Angeles trial. She actually went public in an entire spread for The Hollywood Reporter following his rape conviction. We'll get to that later, obviously, because that's honestly the wildest case of them all. He agrees with Allred and says, quote, Mr. Weinstein chose to not take the witness stand on his own behalf.

Candace

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And I'll take you to the top of her testimony about this, okay? We're now at the top of page 1721. And he's asking if he can publish evidence right there on line nine. Actually, we'll go a little bit above. Mr. Taronis asks the judge, he said, and I ask that be received in evidence and published.

Candace

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Essentially, that's just him saying, the judge, I want I'm going to show you something and I want this to be published as an exhibit, as evidence. The court says, OK, it is received into evidence. And then he began. He resumes his questioning. His question is. And that's a meeting with Harvey Weinstein at four o'clock p.m. at Claridge is correct. Correct. And did you remember?

Candace

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Do you remember that meeting? I remember meeting him in London and showing him a trash TV idea on my laptop. Would you take my word for it that you didn't send him the trash TV package until February of 2007? Now I'm going to pause and tell you why that exchange is significant. She is alleging that she met him because she was showing him a TV project that she was working for, working on.

Candace

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She was pitching him a TV idea. And what he is saying is that we've got proof and we have got receipts. So that is actually not what you were doing there. And that actually that doesn't come until February. So she's trying to come up with a reason why she's at Claridge's. She's trying to make it professional.

Candace

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And this lawyer's dropping some hints that I don't know what you were doing at Claridge's, but what you say you were doing is not what in fact you were doing. So she may be recognizing, he says, would you take my word for it that you didn't send him the trash TV package until February of 2007, which is three months later.

Candace

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She replies and says, I was already thinking and writing about trash TV before that time. When you were thinking about it and writing, You wanted someone to produce it, correct? Not necessarily. I may have just been showing him the idea to see what he thought about it. Like a friend would show a friend something? No, a person would show somebody who is very experienced in the field something.

Candace

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And that's what you thought of Mr. Weinstein in November of 2006, that he was a person that you could share your work with because he was experienced in the field, correct? Right? Yes, I felt he was a successful producer who knew a lot. And that Harvey Weinstein, you signed that HW, correct? Yes. And if we can go back to July 10th, remember, that's the first assault that she said.

Candace

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She said, no, no, no. Are those similar? Not really. Did you write them both? He's again referring to the calendar. Like I said, I don't know anyone else who would have written in my calendar, so I would say yes. You talked about trash TV, correct? Yes. Trash TV was a concept that you had developed along with some friends, right? Yes. Mainly yours? Yes.

Candace

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It was sort of your brainchild, something that you wanted to get off the ground. Yes. It was an idea. It was an idea that you maybe wanted to turn into a show? Yes. Yes. An online show? Yes. And you put together a treatment for that show, didn't you? Somewhat, yes. And at that time, in February of 2007, Michael White was still alive. Yes.

Candace

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You had met producers on the TV show Shoot Me in England, right? Or Shoot Me Too? I was a producer on Shoot Me To, yes. At this point, you are 29 years old, correct? And you knew a lot of people in the industry, didn't you? Yes. And you knew other producers, absolutely. You knew other directors, yes. You knew actors, yes. You knew a lot of people, yes.

Candace

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And the person that you decide that you are going to pitch this to, yes. It's Harvey Weinstein. Yes. And many others. I pitched it to many others. I met with a lot of people about trash TV. So he's setting her up and he's just basically saying these.

Candace

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He said adding this collaboration is yet another ploy by Mr. Weinstein's public relations machine to try and change public opinion about him and his sordid past. Now, let me tell you what's super interesting about them saying that. First and foremost, like I've showed you with the Justin Baldoni case, it relies on the public just being stupid, right?

Candace

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And what I'm reading from this back and forth is you're testifying that this person assaulted you twice or assaulted you once where you said no, no, no. The second time you was unwanted. You were fearful of this guy. He was big. And now you're telling us that you're in London.

Candace

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And while you're in London, you have all of these contacts because the person who was your father figure, that guy that we spoke about last episode, Michael, he set you up with a bunch of people. You're producing a movie. Why would you move to message Harvey Weinstein at all? You're not under Harvey Weinstein's spell now. You can't pretend that there's a reason that you need to reach out to him.

Candace

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And yet you do twice. And he shows the emails there and there are emails of her pitching this concept to him in February of 2007. Let's take a look at those emails. This trash TV show that she wanted to get off of the ground. And she writes, hey, Dan, haven't spoken to you in a while. I hope you're well. This is February 9th, 2007. Please could you forward these attachments to Harvey?

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It's a letter and a sort of treatment for this project I want to do. I'm not forwarding someone else's stuff. It's my own thing. So please, please, please could you get him to read it? I'd really appreciate it. I could have attached these little mood clip videos I made, but the files are too big to email. Anywho, it would be great if you could let me know if you've received this.

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And then once again, the way that she ends the email doesn't seem like someone who's terrified of Harvey. All the best, Miriam. She's begging for that to be delivered to Harvey. So what am I to think if I'm on the jury and I'm looking at this? And I know people who have actually survived sexual, like rape, sexual, a terrifying thing to live through.

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And I'm watching this person right after these encounters in 2006. And she's trying to get in touch with him. She's meeting him at hotels. She's spotting on the details about why she's at these hotels or if she's at these hotels meeting him. But we're able to prove via calendar entries and emails that she is pursuing Harvey, trying to get him. to pick up one of her projects.

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What are we to make of that? I'm interested. I'm interested to see what you guys are thinking about this as you're reading through all of these emails that took place following her unwanted encounters with this monster. I'm going to take a pause and I'm going to quickly run you through what some other emails that she sent in that are incredible, in my view, absolutely incredible.

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They always assume that people don't understand how trials work or what's happening in the courtroom. Obviously, the public was not welcomed into the courtroom in this particular trial. And Harvey Weinstein would have to be the dumbest person ever in the history of the world to take the stand.

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That's puretalk.com slash Owens for details. Okay, so... Now we are in 2007. As I said, she has sent that email to Dan Guando once again asking for Harvey to look at the treatment, to look at this treatment that she has put together for Trash TV. And then...

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10 days after that, so that was February 9th, that email that I just read, 10 days after that, she sends him a long email to thank Harvey for his trash TV help. This is February 19th, 2007. Let's read this long email or parts of this long email that she sends. Remember, none of this for whatever reason. And she had a long press conference when she came out and cried with Gloria Allred.

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She didn't mention that this is what took place after her horrific assault that she survived. She writes, Dear Harvey, thank you so much for your kind offer to help and for John's call. It was very informative and he's very sweet and helpful. I've mulled over all the things that he said and carefully examined the websites he suggested as well as bought the book he thought I should read.

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Some of these sites I'd seen before and some were new and it was great as I feel I can now move forward with even more confidence. There is nothing touchwood like my vision for trash out there yet. As I was telling John, I had some unexpected developments with this in the past few days.

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As you know, I bought a few Trash TV websites, but wasn't able to get the one I really wanted that would solve my trademark issue, Trash.TV. Well, I found out the person who owns it is actually producer-director Philippe Calland, who incidentally produced my friend Adam's movie, Dead Girl. Adam, who was at one point going to partner me in Trash, but will now just help with the content.

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So it turns out Philippe has been wanting to do this for a while too, but has been busy on films to develop it. Though he has people to deal with technical business programming and PR stuff, et cetera, ready to launch it. We're hopefully meeting in the next few weeks to discuss a collaboration. So fingers crossed. In the meantime, I shall keep researching and working on it.

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And your support is very much appreciated. Lots of love, Miriam. Lots of love. Lots of love, guys. So lots of love that she was feeling towards Harvey for his help. Obviously, he helped her somehow with this getting in touch with this John guy. And she's feeling once again, tons of love. And I want to be clear that woman who's writing lots of love puts Harvey in prison for 20 years. OK, 20 years.

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Not only to take the stand this time, but last time when the amount of corruption which was allowed into that courtroom... They basically were going to make him—I'm going to actually let you guys know exactly what happened and why this decision got reversed by the appellate courts, because that's how corrupt the courtroom was, okay? It was essentially just a kangaroo court.

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alleging that she had obviously no control, even though we know that when she met him, she was 20, or not when she met him, but when they start beginning a relationship, rather, she was 29 years old at that Cannes Film Festival, where she first approached him about getting a job, and he offered her... in ways that she doesn't remember, but Project Runway, a production assistant role.

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She was 29 years old, turning 30, okay? And for whatever reason, in 2007, it was Lots of Love. Then we fast forward 10 years beyond that, next to Gloria Allred, and it's Lots of Tears. It's Lots of Tears, Mimi, okay? And I'm going to show you what happened in 2008, which we showed you yesterday to remind you back to the timeline. So she actually a couple of more entries in 2007.

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I forgot about this. She then reaches out to him in 2007 for tickets. She reaches out to his office for tickets to Cannes. And Harvey's office scrambles to try to get her tickets last second. They are able to get her tickets, but by the time they tell her that they're able to get her tickets, it's too late. So I can show you this email on May 25th, 2007.

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from somebody on Harvey's team named Leslie Hedlund. And she says, as an FYI, she doesn't think that she can use them because it was such short notice, but we did get them to her. If we jump back into the transcript to page 1733, obviously Damon questioned her about this. Like, why would you want to get tickets from this guy once again to Cannes? And he asks her,

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Then in 2007, you were given some tickets by Mr. Weinstein at the Cannes Film Festival for the movie Sicko. You remember that? I remember getting some tickets at the Cannes Film Festival. I do not remember to what movie. It was from Harvey, right? Yes. You actually reached out to Mr. Weinstein and his company to ask if you can get tickets for the movie, didn't you? Possibly.

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I don't remember doing that, but it is very possible. And that is because you knew Harvey Weinstein could get tickets at the Cannes Film Festival, right? He probably had some movies at the Cannes Film Festival, yes. You decided to reach out to him to ask for those tickets. Yes. Did you see him at all in Cannes in 2007? I don't remember seeing him, no.

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Do you remember leaving a message for him and his company telling him that you were in town? I remember leaving a message that I didn't make it to the movie. I do not remember the conversation before that. Do you remember Harvey asking if you were in London? I don't recall. I'm going to have somebody show you a document.

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This is when he shows the email chain to help refresh her memory that these things that he is implying actually did happen, that she reached out to his office and she secured tickets. And they were helping her to get tickets and that he replied by asking his team to see if she was in London.

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And so what these lawyers are doing is—it's the same exact strategy when I showed you in the Blake Lively case, when they subpoenaed like two and a half years of Justin Baldoni's records, knowing, of course, that— He would fight that because why would you why would I give you two and a half years of every single text message I've ever sent ever for two and a half years?

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So once again, clearly we are seeing when we jump back into our timeline that her and Harvey Weinstein had a good relationship. They had a friendly relationship, whatever it is you want to call it, a platonic father-like. I don't know. I don't understand. But it's not giving me 20 years in prison. When I read these emails, I'm not getting 20 years in prison.

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When I read these emails, I question the morality of someone like Gloria Allred. How do you put your head on the pillow at night? Because for me, that's the most important thing.

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The most important thing is that whatever you do, even if it's a truth, if it's a hard truth, that you are able to go to bed and sleep soundly knowing that you are actually fighting for truth and that you are actually fighting for justice, not social justice, not the Me Too movement has taken off and there's an opportunity for women to bring allegations against men that are going to go unchecked because the emotional climate in America is demanding somebody's head in a platter and that person should be Harvey Weinstein.

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Not social justice, but actual justice. I question Gloria Allred. I question how she gets through reading these emails and says, you know what? I'm going to go forward with this. I'm going to go forward with this case. And the reality, which we learned throughout this transcript, is that Gloria Allred, they actually represented her for free.

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In the criminal matter, because once somebody is charged criminally, you can then go after them civilly and make money. And he questions Mimi about those intentions. Like, are you intending to sue him after? And she kind of dances around and won't say anything. And then, of course, once the conviction happens, yeah, this is what this is. Are we going to ask for money? Does this come down to money?

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Then, of course, we know, jumping back into that timeline, so Miriam writes him on May 27th, 2007, and she thanks him for the tickets and says that she could not use them. Again, this is back at Cannes, so she's conversing with him all through 2007. And then on June 27th is when she sends that email about the Adams family being turned into a musical.

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Harvey replies and tells her that she's a genius. And then that last email that we showed you yesterday about the Kundalini yoga and looking for a job. Many of you guys pointed out that that email looked fantastic. very sexual because she says my kitty needs feeding or my cat needs feeding. You know, I'd really appreciate any lead.

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She's asking for a job and she ends it by saying my cat needs feeding. I don't know if that's meant to be a sexual connotation. I didn't even process that because my brain is so... It's really not in the gutter at all. But yeah, it's objectively weird that you would end an email by saying my cat needs feeding. And nowhere in the transcript can I find that she had a cat.

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I have found that her roommate had a cat and a dog. But that was back in 2006. I don't know if when she was in 2009, probably living with somebody else, if she had a cat. I don't know if Harvey knew her cat. But my cat needs feeding does sound like it could be sexual. I'm not sure. And that's what we've got.

Candace

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That is what we've got regarding Mimi Halei, who is deciding whether or not she's going to take the stand without having a courtroom that is filled with people who are able to just launch allegations and essentially emotionally move the jury. Now that that Molyneux standard has been removed, she doesn't know if she's going to take the stand. She's considering it.

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Like that scope doesn't even make sense. But they were doing it as a PR move because then when his legal team said, no, of course, you can't have access to that. They didn't go to the public and go, oh, he must be hiding something. Well, Gloria Allred and Carr were doing the exact same thing. Oh, he must be hiding something.

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Maybe she will do it on behalf of women. And I really hope she does. I really hope she does, because this stuff is crazy. As someone who is about to give birth to her third son, the idea of this happening, the idea of a man going to prison for 20 years and these emails being ignored by the jury because people are on the stand saying all sorts of wild things unchecked terrifies me. It terrifies me.

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It should terrify you. I want to address some of your comments here from episode one. One person wrote devil's advocate here. If it takes domestic abuse victims at least seven times to leave their spouses, what makes you think that these women who knew Harvey from one call could destroy you would not go back and do what he wants? entirely different circumstance, okay?

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Domestic abuse victims are people who tend to be in long-term relationships with someone, okay? So if you're married to your husband and you say you went back 10 times after he was beating you I am much more sympathetic and understanding to that sort of a scenario because you go, they have all these considerations. I want to keep my family together. You know, I'm addicted, whatever it is.

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You hear these circumstances. You don't hear of a woman who, in this circumstance, admits that she pursued Harvey Weinstein at the Cannes Film Festival because her father figure mentor, Michael White, the producer, who was 40 years older than her when she met him, who was taking care of her, right? Or she became his personal assistant, has a stroke.

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And it looks to me like he, is she looking for her next person to take care of her? I don't know. But she then, when she has that first icky, icky feeling that she says she left the hotel at Cannes, his hotel room after he asked her for a massage and she cried, she could have been to everything right there. There's no way you could have been like, that was creepy. That didn't work for me.

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That was really weird. But she doesn't do that. She takes a job opportunity instead. And it wasn't for her visa because at that point she wasn't in America. She was living in London. OK, this wasn't a person who needed to be in America at all. This was somebody who wanted a job. And she says that. She says she wanted a job. So she's not going back because there's this pull or she's worried.

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If she had left that hotel room and said, I'm actually all good. I actually don't want the job at Project Runway. What was going to happen? He's going to waste his time when there's tons of other actresses, clearly, that are throwing themselves at him because he's a power broker. And so Jen Lynn, also to answer another comment here, Jen Lynn writes, I'm a sexual abuse and rape survivor.

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No, the reality is you're nervous because you want him to take the stand because you don't feel confident in your case outside of the kangaroo court, which was allowed the first time. They need him to essentially risk perjuring himself so that they can impeach his character. OK, like I said, they believe that the public is stupid.

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I have never heard of anyone going out of their way to contact the abuser back. And I've been in a lot of support groups over the years. Something is fishy. Another person echoes that sentiment. This person writes, hi, Candice, as a victim of horrific R in Australia, I can attest the last thing you want is any contact with that individual. 18 months for a jury trial.

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And even after the verdict, when the person is finally released and you live in a small city, I am hypervigilant. If a man walks past wearing the same aftershave as an individual, I go into a full panic mode and lock myself in my house. Women that make this stuff up truly sicken me. As a real survivor, it destroys a part of your soul, safety and peace that you never get back.

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I wondered in my mind if Harvey's team dismissed a lot of women who had said that they were abuse survivors because they didn't know in the climate of Me Too what they were going to get. But just in looking at all the comments, I actually think they should have had.

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abuse victims, real abuse victims on the stand, because they would have looked at this evidence because there were so many of you commenting like this. I would never do this. I avoid this person like the plague. So what separates an individual like the person who just commented from Australia and Mimi? What is it? What is the difference here? Why are survivors of rape when they hear this timeline?

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Why do they feel motivated to comment and say that this disgusts them? that this makes them angry. It's because we recognize that there is a difference, right? There is a difference between what I would describe. And again, I was not in the jury. What I would describe is a sugar daddy, sugar baby relationship.

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that didn't actually produce an A-list celebrity, who a person maybe then, as she got older, saw an opportunity and said, okay, you know what? I actually would like to renegotiate that. I'd like to renege everything I did in the past and to instead present myself as a victim. It was a huge difference between that and people that are actual survivors.

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I want to just leave you with that notion and to question rather and to have you guys write some answers when we get to comments today. For now, let's jump right back into Harvey Speaks. We'll definitely tell you guys what I am enjoying today. What I'm enjoying today is the headlines about this series that I've just started coming out of Hollywood.

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And conflating the two only hurts the women who are actually raped and sexually assaulted. But this put him away for 20 years, guys, 20 years.

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So what happened in the appellate court, which you should understand, is they overturned his conviction, sending it back down essentially 50%. Four judges voted yes and three of the judges voted no on overturning it. They had a majority, it got overturned. But I just wanted to show you the absurdity of the New York court system. One of the judges who dissented, her name is Judge Madeline Singus.

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Spit and Fire writes, finally, someone exposing these Me Too fakers. Me Too fooled the world too long. Believe all women is a joke. said a woman believe the truth, period. Yeah. And like believing all men is crazy. Men lie. I could go through things. Obviously, when we get through and we're looking at Ryan Reynolds and all this stuff, it's like, how could you just condemn an entire sex?

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And just assume that one sex always is telling the truth. It's that that to me is actual insanity. Brian Schwartz writes, I'm thinking Harvey was conspired against. Yeah, I think there's a reason that judge wasn't reappointed. And I'm wondering who whose bidding he was doing. Because he was asked to recuse himself. I believe the mayor's office asked him to recuse himself, and he refused.

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And he just allowed anything to happen in that courtroom.

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And the only reason you would allow that, that you would allow these people to just impeach his character with all sorts of stories, and then to say that not only that, but if you take the stand, you're going to have to defend yourself against these unproven allegations, is because you know that the actual facts of the case are not strong enough to convict him. Otherwise, it's not necessary.

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You don't need any extra people. You just go as soon as you see this evidence, everyone's going to recognize this man is a hardcore rapist, that he engages in sexual assault and he should be put into prison. The judge didn't have that confidence. Gloria Allred, in my view, did not have that confidence.

Candace

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And they still don't have that confidence, in my view, because they're trying to publicly pressure him to do the dumbest thing possible, which would be to get on the stand so that they can start asking him a bunch of questions. No, you have the evidence. Try it again. Try it again with more people now aware of what's happening with this case.

Candace

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Also calling it a PR stunt, a PR stunt to read the emails. I'm not being paid by Harvey's team. Harvey's team isn't asking me to do anything. Harvey didn't even want me to do this because Harvey's still on the left. Think about that.

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I had to essentially try out to even be able to present this, to be able to speak about the things that I had learned because Harvey just, you know, is not a right-leaning individual and still, for whatever reason, has faith in the very media that took him down, the very media that refused to show this evidence, to show these emails. How is that PR?

Candace

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How is it PR to read the emails, to pull to Brian Friedman and to say, hey, everybody, here's a website. You can now, and this is, by the way, what his team should do. Get in touch with Brian Friedman. Put up lawsuitinfo.com.

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create a timeline like I have created, drop all of the evidence and allow the world to see the truth, not to read perfectly curated statements from lawyers who are willing to lie on behalf of their clients because there was a paycheck at the end of those lies. Does that just make sense? Key writes, I joined your website and also pre-ordered your book. You have opened my eyes on so many things.

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Shot in the Dark is amazing and has helped me navigate with being a first-time mama. Much love, Candice. Keep being a badass. Yeah, our episode that we released for free on the MMR vaccine was going so viral on Instagram yesterday regarding my Shot in the Dark series on our website that Instagram moved to essentially put a warning on it so nobody could share it.

Candace

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which is crazy because we didn't share the episode on Instagram. It was just a link. So they blocked the link from being shared by saying fact checkers have reviewed this and had decided that this can't be shared because it correlates autism to MMR. That is absolutely not what happens in that episode. I just showed you guys actual articles.

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She said she was dissenting because, quote, New York women deserve better than that. So I dissent. Oh, OK. I'm sorry. The collective of New York women deserve better. So you dissent. Is that a reason to dissent from this? Can you actually spell out whether or not there was corruption?

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I showed you actual proof that Japan said no to this vaccine, MMR, back in 1993, the combination vaccine that is. And giving parents information for whatever reason makes Big Pharma very angry. And so I'm very proud of that series. And I'm very happy that so many parents were able to access it yesterday. And you can go to Candace Owens dot com.

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I believe it's like it's required viewing to watch that series if you become a parent, because you just have to know the tricks that the doctors play and the gaslighting that takes place. Mark Adams writes, I've not been so excited to be waiting on each new episode since Lost. Candice is doing amazing things and I'm loving it. From a hashtag London boy. Thank you so much.

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Yeah, this has been important to me. Like I said, I was number one. when it came to saying that something was rotten about the Me Too movement. And I hope that in showing you these things, everybody can appreciate, like, this is when the genie got out of the bottle, right? He was ground zero of the Me Too movement.

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And it's important that we go back and take a look at Harvey Weinstein, examine him, Like I said, no doubt he abused his power. I said that to him on the phone. There's no question in my mind that you abuse your power. And I would hate to have been your wife. And I would never say Harvey Weinstein is a moral man because he wouldn't be in this predicament if he had just been faithful to his wife.

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Consider that. Consider that crazy as being faithful to your wife. But also, I believe that he was wrongly convicted. And it doesn't matter if you agree with somebody and the way that they live their life or if you agree with their morality. We must have a true due process that examines facts and logic and evidence outside of emotion and irrationality and tears. Anybody can cry on a stand.

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I cry on a stand today. I'm pregnant enough. I can cry about anything. It doesn't give me the right to to put somebody in prison for 20 years. Does it mean just believe her? Just believe her. She's crying. Why else would she be crying? I don't know. Maybe she's crying because she's being exposed as not being completely honest. There's tons of reasons people cry. I don't know.

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Anyways, you guys, I want to remind you, this is going to be a lot of Candace content today because tonight Trump is going to address Congress. He's going to address joint Congress session. And so we will be here live on YouTube to watch that. You can just watch with me if you're planning on watching that joint address. A lot going on.

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If you're super into politics, obviously, you know, stopping the funding on Ukraine. Who knows who's not going to attend? It seems like people are constantly always protesting in Congress as opposed to just doing their job left and right and sitting down and listening to whoever the president is respectfully. But we're going to see what's going to happen tonight.

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We're going to see what Trump has to say. Again, this is not a State of the Union, but it is a joint address. So I hope that you guys will come back and watch it with me. It will be at 9 o'clock p.m. Eastern. I will be doing my best. to stay awake. Like I might fall asleep live because I cannot stay up late, but I'm going to do it for you guys. So we will see you guys later tonight.

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The link is already on our YouTube live.

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Indeed, there actually was enough in so much that the rest of the judges who were acting impartial and looked at this case realized, what are we allowing to happen in this courtroom? Why was any of this allowed? And. From this article, which is shockingly extremely fair from The Hollywood Reporter, why the New York appeals court judges reversed Harvey Weinstein's conviction.

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This was written by a journalist named Kevin Dolak. And he said anybody who actually followed the trial wouldn't have been surprised by this reversal because essentially what happened in this courtroom has never been seen before. And here's a quotation from that.

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It says it reads, questioned that day were two key moves that Judge James Burke, that was the presiding judge over the Harvey Weinstein trial, made in 2020.

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His decision to allow three women whose accusations against Weinstein were not in the purview of the case to testify as so-called Molyneux witnesses, which are trial witnesses, are allowed to testify about criminal acts that the defendant has not been charged with committing. to establish the Hollywood power broker has a predatory pattern.

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Burke also said that he would allow the prosecution to confront the defendant on the stand about past behavior that was not related to the cases of the two women accusing him of sexual assault. So essentially, they just allowed anybody who wanted to say that something happened between him or her and Harvey Weinstein to And they could not prove those allegations whatsoever.

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They allowed them to just impeach his character. So you imagine you're on the stand and you're there. You're saying, sir, you know that you you're being tried for rape. And the judge just allows this rule where anybody who wants to say anything about you can come and take the stance. You can get like Johnny from third grade and Johnny's like, yeah, no, he stole my pencils.

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He stole my Pikachu pencils. Yeah. And so he's a bad person. They literally allowed people to testify that he got into a fight with Bob Weinstein. Like, what does that have to do with anything that's happening in this courtroom? And beyond that, they allowed women to just come in and to testify and to say, he did this to me, he did that to me.

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And they did not have to prove any of their allegations. They didn't have to present any proof of those allegations. These were just, we are trying to impeach his character. And we want the jury to hear allegation after allegation after allegation. And then the judge basically says that not only are you going to be forced to sit through all of this, all of these unproven allegations, but

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But if Harvey Weinstein takes the stand, I'm going to allow the prosecution to question him about these these unproven allegations. It was insane. OK, what this judge allowed in the courtroom was insane. And so in reversing this decision, and I'm going to read you directly what the judges said.

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They said, we conclude that the trial court erroneously admitted testimony of uncharged alleged prior sexual acts against persons other than the complainants of the underlying crimes. because that testimony served no material non-propensity purpose, she wrote.

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The court compounded that error when it ruled that defendant, who had no criminal history, could be cross-examined about those allegations, as well as numerous allegations of misconduct that portrayed defendant in a highly prejudicial light. I should mention that that overseeing judge, Judge Burke, He was denied reappointment since this case.

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He was so corrupt that the mayor's office denied to reappoint him to the bench due to this perceived corruption that was stemming from this trial. He was asked to recuse himself because he was just allowing whatever to happen in this courtroom, which makes me wonder, was he accepting payments? Who was he working for? Why would he do this? Why not just allow a fair trial to take place?

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Why not allow cameras in there so people could see what was actually happening? Anyways, I wanted you to have that background as we get back into Mimi Haley and we take a look at everything that's happened. So when this gets overturned, Gloria Allred does what she does best.

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She always brings people in front of the camera because she knows that you are not going to be able to follow her into the courtroom. So her job is to convince you via emotion. This is how I read Gloria Allred's work. Have women cry, like we showed you yesterday, say this happened to me, tell you a traumatic story, get you to react.

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And then she's probably like, when we get in the court, we're not going to follow and you're not going to listen to how this story falls apart. And this story, yeah, a lot of things she didn't mention in that press conference. Like, yeah, after your alleged sexual harassment and your alleged sexual assault, how did you correspond with Harvey Weinstein? So she already has come out with Mimi.

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And Gloria Allred, who, in my opinion, is just a shakedown artist. Like, it's incredible how many women she has represented who make an allegation. And men lose absolutely everything. And then I think her daughters, Lisa Bloom, like, they've really turned this into a career of sorts. Yeah. It's like a form of ambulance chasing. You know, there's Benjamin Crump.

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As soon as this decision was overturned, she had Mimi sit down on her show, on her podcast, whatever it is, to read a statement about how overturning his conviction is so hurtful to her and how she's considering, she's not certain yet, even though she's now learned that they're not going to allow Molyneux witnesses. They're not going to allow all these people to just come in and say whatever.

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So now we're going to have to you're going to have to convince the jury based on the facts that are in front of them. Here is part of her statement.

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OK, so you get it. She's supposed to just read this statement publicly, convince the public that something wrong happened here. So, you know what? Let's just actually look at the facts here. I don't really care about female emotion. I don't care about male emotion. I only care about the facts.

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And so I decided to build out a timeline, as I always do, so that you guys can follow along regarding her allegations, because this really is something. And now we have emails that we did not show you yesterday in our possession. And I think you're going to be shocked. You're going to be absolutely shocked. So let's actually start in the timeline and we can show you this whole timeline here.

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We're going to take a look so that you guys can freeze this if you're watching this at home. We start from 2006 from when she meets Harvey Weinstein. Her memory is weird. We can throw the testimony up somewhere so that you guys can actually read through it. But for the sake of today, I want to start with July because this is when she alleges that this assault happened.

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The one where she said, no, no, no. And so on July 9th, we have an email where Miriam sends an email to the Weinstein office asking for them to pay for her trip to Los Angeles. Okay. Here is that email. You can read it. It says, Dear Charles, presumably Charles Meach is an assistant of Harvey Weinstein.

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I don't know whether you're the right person to speak to, but Harvey had kindly offered to arrange for me to go to LA early this week. I know I should have probably have called Friday, but needed to sort a few things out first. And so I would now like to confirm that if it's possible, I'd like to go tomorrow or Tuesday. Don't mind which. Please could you let me know if that's cool.

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My numbers are blank cell and home. Okay. The day after this is when Harvey allegedly assaults her at his apartment. This is the most important assault in everything because she says this is the one that is forcible. She did not want this. And her memory is spotty about what happened during that time. But we know what happened the day after this. OK, the day after this alleged assault happened.

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And then the white version of Benjamin Crump is obviously Gloria Allred. And she's trying to be all big and bad in the press, acting like she's not nervous. Anyways, the Hollywood Reporter ran this article. Candace Owens' latest crusade, exonerating Harvey Weinstein.

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Both her and Harvey somehow are in Los Angeles. Right. So Harvey is attending the Clerks premiere. It's a movie that he is doing. And we're able to confirm that, by the way, not because Harvey testified, but because I just went on to the Getty database and saw. Wanted to know if he made it to the premiere. And so this is just a screenshot of their database.

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And you can see that they have images if you want to purchase them. The clerks to Los Angeles premiere. There he is. They snapped these images on July 11th, 2006. And then we learn from her testimony that she flies to Los Angeles on July 11th, the day after her assault. And when she's questioned about this by her side, she basically says, well, the trip was already booked.

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So I was just going to go anyways. Plus, I was going to see my friends. Plus, I didn't go to the clerk's premiere. So it was totally fine.

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So something that's crucial is that she gave her calendar, if we want to call it a planner, a calendar to the district attorney as proof of what her whereabouts were all throughout 2006, because she kept a calendar just to kind of go, OK, I'm going to be here, I'm going to be there. And she jotted down numbers. It became a crucial piece of evidence.

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But what the testimony shows is that she has this weird habit of crossing out the names that would show that she was in communication with Harvey's team. from July 13th to July 15th, okay? She is in Los Angeles. We can bring up that timeline again so that they can visualize this, okay?

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And you can see on July 13th to July 15th, she crosses off Dan Guando's name on her calendar, but his number is still there. So they're able to figure out that's Dan Guando. Dan Guando is Harvey's assistant, okay? So just to be clear, she was assaulted on the 10th. Then she goes to L.A. And then they notice that from the 13th through to the 15th, and I'm going to bring you into the testimony now.

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that she goes to the peninsula. Peninsula notoriously is where Harvey Weinstein stays every time he is in LA. And she, for whatever reason, jots down his assistant's names. And she cops to the fact that she went to the peninsula, but she can't remember why. So let's look at the top of that transcript. This is page 1695. So this is... This is Harvey Weinstein's lawyer asking her on the stand.

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All right, you guys, without further ado, today we announce our new investigative series, or you guys get to find out what it's going to be on. It will begin next week. Many of you guys guessed, by the way, and from what we could tell, only one person in the live chat on Friday completely nailed it. Get ready because this one is going to send the Internet and the media into a frenzy.

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There's no reason, even if you're exploding the story, to talk about how you walked in her hallway, spoke to her neighbors, described the building she lives near and the car that she drives, okay?

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But then right after this, two days later, or maybe it was even a day later, she released a piece or did a piece, collaborated with the New York Post, where there appeared to be a photographer in this swanky New York building that she's living in.

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And beyond that, she has since released private correspondences in the form of text messages between her and Elon Musk to various publications worldwide. And it's kind of it's just weird. Like it's like Elon Musk being like, let's have another child. Let's make plenty of babies. Like he just wants to populate the world with tons of different women.

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And she also announced that she was suing Elon Musk in New York to establish paternity, plus to seek full custody. And this caused a conservative meltdown. OK, and I'm putting conservative here. In air quotations, the general perspective was, well, she's obviously a gold digger and she got pregnant on purpose by him to go after Elon Musk's money.

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Elon Musk himself has essentially boosted this perspective by commenting on various threads of people who were one time friends with Ashley St. Clair and they're now sharing their private correspondences with her. to prove that she's a gold digger and that she basically eyed Elon Musk. Elon Musk is the victim of this story.

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He's a 53-year-old man who's supposed to be one of the most intelligent people in the world. He is the richest man in the world. But the spin here is that he was victimized because... you know, Ashley St. Clair kind of got in there and he had no idea what was coming, right? And so there's one person online, Isabella Moody, who basically is saying, I'm sharing personal messages with Ashley St.

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There is, in fact, a difference, New York Times, in saying that somebody barged into a trailer when someone was breastfeeding and then omitting the fact that the person was invited into the trailer. Yeah, that does a little bit. That little detail does a little to dissuade the public from believing that a person is a sexual harasser or an abuser.

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Clair because she shared personal messages with Elon Musk. And here's what she tweeted. I'm just going to share that with you because this is what Elon Musk responded to, saying that she agreed with Laura Loomer. She wrote, I wasn't going to post these, but now that Ashley St. Clair has leaked her private signal messages with Elon Musk...

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After lying and saying that she wanted privacy, here's more evidence that Ashley planned to baby trap Elon. She sent me these text messages in May of 2023 when she first met Elon and started sleeping with him. She said, I need his rocket babies and I need a caption to seduce Elon Musk in May of 2023. See dates below. She doesn't care about privacy.

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She planned to seduce him by her own admission and now she's leaking his texts. So I'm leaking her texts to me, okay? Because as Laura Loomer said below, we need to condemn promiscuous gold diggers. And then she posts the messages and it's Ashley St. Clair saying, Elon followed me. I need his rocket babies, LOL. And Ashley writes back, oh my God, no way. That is so awesome.

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I mean, sorry, Isabella writes back. Oh my God, no way. That's so awesome. And then she wrote, he 1000% saw my moon landing tweet look, I'll take one for the team, seduce Elon and get in a rocket to see what's up. And then she said, Isabella said, oh yes, you must for the sake of society. So when I read these messages, I'm reading like a joke, a gag between two girls.

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And by the way, I am totally guilty of this, never speaking about sleeping with someone, but literally last weekend, there was a person that followed me on Instagram and I made a joke to my producer and my former EP. And I was like, so-and-so just followed me. So none of you guys look at me anymore. I'll be wearing sunglasses inside as I pursue this friendship. It was just a joke, you know?

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And so I don't know if we're supposed to take that literally, but what we know is that she then went on to have a baby by Elon. And so Elon's responding to that and he writes, whoa, whoa. And this

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annoys me because it is first and foremost his response annoys me Isabella can share whatever she wants all is fair in politics this is just how it goes people turn on each other all the time stab each other in the back but Elon Musk responding well like he just found this out he is the richest man in the world okay stop just conservatives stop

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If Elon Musk wanted to employ every single person in Nashville and dedicated their employment to researching every single tweet and thought that Ashley St. Clair has had since she was born, he could do that. That's what it means to be the richest man in the world. He has wealth that is not calculable.

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He has everything, the whole world, resources at his fingertips, so much so that he can just pick girls like Ashley, have 13 children. The majority of them, I think, via surrogacy and IVF. And I have always said since the beginning, before this Ashley St.

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Clair situation happened, I'm on record saying that I find it problematic that conservatives have turned him into a superhero when the way that he lives his personal life is against our family values. But I want to say that because Elon Musk has a lot of money. And everybody wants to be around Elon Musk because he's like close to Trump.

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And so everyone's going to just abandon their family principles here and pretend that like somehow he's a victim in this. No, he's not a victim. He's a 53 year old man. I'm going to assume that Elon Musk knows how babies are made. OK, so, whoa, I had no idea that just that just seems fake to me. That seems petty. It seems fake.

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And it's ridiculous that you're leaning into this, especially when you have 13 kids that we know about. You know how babies are made, Elon. OK, so it is a total plausibility. Hear me out. that you don't need to root for Ashley or root for Elon Musk. That would be the realest thing ever if you recognized faults in both characters.

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And, of course, when they do these sorts of things, when they intentionally omit certain facts, they have the potential to ruin people's lives forever. Well, what I want to tell you guys is that I have had some conversations with someone, a once upon a time, very powerful someone. And I am now going to jog your memory on who exactly it is that I'm speaking about. The subject of my next series.

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So I don't have an issue with people saying, oh, well, she obviously did this because he's the richest man in the world. That's fine. She is not above critique. And she represented herself as a conservative that pushed traditional values. And so she's going to have that criticism coming her way. But to pretend Elon's a victim, really?

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And I'm talking everyone in the conservative movement is trying to take this angle. Christina Pasha, if you don't know her, she's the former comms director for the DeSantis campaign. I think she still works for Ron DeSantis. And she may have been just by the way, I don't want to like assign malice where there wasn't any. She may have been asking this question in earnest, but she tweeted this. OK.

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Somebody said sole custody. Why? Christina writes, what I don't understand is why it's even necessary to file for sole custody if her name is the only one on the birth certificate. They were never married. His name is not on the birth certificate. He has not claimed paternity and there's no paternity test. So why would custody even be in dispute?

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So maybe she's asking this question, like I said, out of earnest. But the implication here is like, well, he got you pregnant. You had your baby. Why do you have to go to the court and get his name on a birth certificate? And so here's where I think that socioeconomic differences might matter, maybe potentially, because I didn't grow up in like a bed of wealth. In fact, I grew up with no wealth.

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I grew up in a household where we watched Maury and Jerry Springer and watching conservatives try to grapple with this situation is crazy. Legitimately funny. OK, because Elon Musk and Ashley St. Clair, like what's happening between them, just so everybody's clear, is like every single episode of Maury. OK, it's every episode of Maury. It's two people who are both not great.

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And which means I learned at the tender age of six that you shouldn't root for Tyrone or Michelle. Right. Like so we can take a look at an old Maury clip for those of you who are not accustomed to this kind of a thing happening. Take a listen.

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There you have it, guys. If you want to know what's going on between Elon Musk and Ashley St. Clair, this is what's going on. OK, so I apparently didn't realize that I had somehow furnished better morals at the age of six watching Maury than the majority of people in the conservative movement who are basically saying what every Tyrone says.

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In the episodes of Maury Says, oh, she's this, she's that, she's lying. She's a bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. She's sleeping with everybody, Maury. She's sleeping with everybody. That ain't my kid. That ain't my kid. And then no one actually feels bad for the girl either because, like, yeah, she's sleeping with a few people. And then we find out that he's the father.

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So it doesn't actually matter if she's sleeping with somebody. I don't care if you think that she's a gold digger. I don't care if you think that she's sleeping with multiple people or that she plotted it. I don't care if Elon Musk found Ashley St. Clair at a strip club. I don't care if he hired her as a professional prostitute and she got pregnant that night. It's his kid if it's his kid.

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He's got to take care of it. That's just like moral consistency, okay? I just don't care. It has to be done in court. If she won the bag, as everybody's saying, it doesn't matter because Elon Musk is a 53-year-old man, okay, who has definitely had the talk about the birds and the bees, okay?

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And now I'm going to show you what I'm talking about when I say like the hypocrisy and why I believe that people respond to money. And this is what happens when you have a movement that is no longer being shaped by Christian belief. It's just about political belief, which means that you will you have to be worshiping something. And to me, it's like they're just all worshiping money.

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So remember, I don't know how old you guys were, but there was a situation that happened where Hunter Biden, OK? got a girl pregnant and didn't want to claim the baby. And conservatives had an entirely different perspective on the matter. So I want to show you this clip of Megyn Kelly covering Ashley St. Clair on her show very recently. She has on as a guest, Michael Knowles, who I love and adore.

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And sorry, Michael, but we didn't include your perspectives on this little clip that we pulled. Take a listen.

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Who is Harvey Weinstein? Or better yet, who was Harvey Weinstein? Harvey Weinstein was born in 1952 to Miriam and Max Weinstein, a diamond cutter from New York. Harvey grew up in Flushing, Queens, and then attended State University at Buffalo College before deciding to drop out and form a music production company with his brother, Bob Weinstein.

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But she had no difficulty giving it to London Roberts, who was Hunton Biden's baby mama. And to be clear, when this woman came on Megyn Kelly's show to hawk her book, talking about wanting publicity, she did a whole book. And Megyn Kelly promoted the book, did a reading of the book, which I'm going to show you. And not only that was – and by the way – The old Megyn Kelly was right.

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Doesn't really matter how Hunter Biden got the woman pregnant. She got it. She has to. He has to acknowledge her child. I don't care how powerful your family is, Hunter Biden. You got to acknowledge the child.

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And so it's just incredible to hear that Megyn Kelly and then to hear this Megyn Kelly discussing the Bidens and introducing this baby mama who's going to go on and admit that Hunter Biden was high out of his mind, clearly, when he got her pregnant. And she was literally a stripper. So let's just take a listen to Megyn Kelly.

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London joins me now. OK, I just wanted to show you this because it's like she's pretending to be outraged about the publicity of it. What are we what were we outraged about? And we with Ashley St. Clair that we're not outraged about regarding Hunter Biden, because I just think that it should be the exact same reaction.

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Why wasn't London when she, as I said, describes meeting Hunter Biden, describes the fact that there's literally drug paraphernalia in front of him, that Hunter Biden is literally on drugs. So he could at least say I was taken advantage of because I was high out of my mind. This woman slept with me. I was on drugs. I was an abender. Elon Musk has none of these excuses.

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And yet we're willing to condemn or defend Elon Musk. For what reason? I don't understand. While we were all willing to condemn Hunter Biden, as we rightfully should have. Here is, again, a last clip of her describing. This is London Roberts describing to Megyn Kelly the circumstances by which she met Hunter Biden. Take a listen.

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They were focused on the independent production of rock concerts through the 1970s. But in 1979, the brothers pivoted and formed Miramax, a company they had named after their parents, which had a focus on independent films. They received their big break into the industry in 1990 with the biographical drama My Left Foot, which earned the company its first pair of Academy Awards.

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You get my point here. This, is what drives me crazy about politics. And I don't have anything personal against Megyn Kelly. OK, I think that she has flip flopped on a variety of issues, whether she was on ABC or NBC or Fox News. And now she seems to come back over to the Trump side. And, you know, I just wish that there was a consistency there.

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Plus, later on in the show, I'm going to show you why I have grown completely bored of politics. Conservatives, my team, so to speak, are just becoming so hypocritical on the topic of Elon Musk. And it's making me want to rant. So I'm going to allow myself permission to rant about this topic of his 13th baby mama. Welcome back to Candace. Boy, oh boy, I am not sure where to begin on this one.

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And I could I plucked Megyn Kelly because that was the first clip I saw go through every conservative speaking about the Hunter Biden issue and weigh their comments and Compared to what they said when it was Hunter Biden and it was Joe Biden and Joe Biden didn't acknowledge a child and he was awful.

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Is anybody else going after Errol Musk, by the way, like which would be Elon Musk's father and saying, has he acknowledged that Ashley Sinclair has had another grandchild? I just don't like the double standards.

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And you don't have to have double standards if you're not chasing money and you're not chasing influence, you know, or not just trying to be in the room with people that you think are powerful. Like if you just have a perspective on life and a perspective on the fact that fathers should take care of their children.

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And if she has to establish paternity, by the way, for those of you that aren't familiar with Maury, the reason why you have to do that is because you can't get child support until you get that paternity. proof that the person on the birth certificate is the father. You have to establish paternity.

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Also, when it comes to making decisions about their schooling, things of that nature, you have to establish paternity. So there are reasons that women go through that effort to establish paternity. And again, I learned this when I was six watching Maury. But I'm just not really feeling the like pro family values party, only picking at Ashley St.

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Clair and pretending that the way that Elon Musk is living his life and trying to populate the world with his sperm is perfectly permissible because he's within distance to Trump. It's crappy. It just is crappy. And that's what I want to say on that topic. All right, guys, before we move on here, I want to remind you that the average person today is feeling the financial strain more than ever.

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The Hollywood floodgates had opened. Miramax went on to produce a string of critically acclaimed films, including The Crying Game, Pulp Fiction, The English Patient, Life is Beautiful, Shakespeare in Love, and Chicago, to name a few. This led to an unprecedented 10 years in a row of producing an Oscar-nominated film for Best Picture.

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By the way, speaking on the same topic of outrage and me just like not feeling it, people were freaking out yesterday over a two-week-old report regarding the Eagles who were supposedly planning to skip the White House visit. And no one knows if this is true. The U.S. Sun reported three days before the Super Bowl

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Happened that the Eagles were not going to visit the White House if they win the Super Bowl. The report apparently was sparked by a question that was posed to the owner regarding whether they would visit or if they would boycott. And he said, I just want to win on Sunday. And the report was largely ignored until for whatever reason it got unearthed yesterday on Twitter.

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And everyone started like instantly attacking and getting into our political conversation. sides and screaming at each other about a White House visit. Among them, of course, Megyn Kelly. She was very angry, dropped some more F-bombs about this. Same, go F yourselves, Eagle. My husband is a fan, so I got on board, but F this BS. I just think I'm lacking in caring anymore about these visits.

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I don't care if the Eagles visit Joe Biden. I don't care if the Eagles visit Trump. I don't care if the Eagles want to come to my house and visit me. I don't care if the Eagles want to never visit anyone ever again. I am so tired of like politicizing sports. I just don't care.

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OK, I literally if this report pans out to be true or false, let the Eagles do whatever they want, because now it's become such a show is the NBA or the championship is going to visit the White House. Why don't we just stop every sports team visiting the White House? Why don't we just stop that stupid tradition? Because this is why we can't have nice things. It is. I'm sorry.

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In America, we're no longer allowed to have nice things because everybody hates each other for no reason. We don't even know if the report's true. Everyone's yelling and screaming. And truly, maybe they just don't want to travel. Maybe they don't want to travel from Philly to the White House. There's also like a history there where Trump didn't invite them.

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And like I said, when things that were supposed to bring us all like enjoyment and togetherness are now being politicized and have us at each other's throats, why don't we just kill it? That's why I just kill it all together and find something that we can agree on.

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And I think that when you guys elect me to be the dictator of the United States, I want you guys to know that I am not going to invite any sports teams at all, ever, ever to the White House. All right, guys, let's get into some of your comments. I can't wait to hear what you guys have to say about Harvey Weinstein.

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And also reminding you guys that have signed up for our book club on CandiceOwens.com if you want to join the book club last second. We are reading Chaos. Tomorrow we will be much more organized in terms of going through the chapters because I was just too excited last time. I just had to say hi to everybody. But the book club will be meeting at 6 p.m. Eastern.

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We are still trying to get the live chat established, but it looks like we're going to need another couple of weeks on that. So we should have the live chat by the next two weeks, by the end of the next two weeks. All right. Getting into some of your comments. Who do we have here? Najam, you are up first. You said, thanks, Candice, for being brave and fair.

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Tricia writes, she's coming for Hollywood and it's about time. Keep going. You guys. You have no idea. There are so many names. I mean, you're going to like... big names. I'm talking A-listers, like people, you're going to be looking at them sideways. People that you thought were the villain, you're going to be like, whoa, he wasn't a villain.

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People that you thought were perfect, that you were going to be like, whoa, this person is a villain. I had it wrong on so many people. And like I said, I have been going through this for almost two years, and I feel very strongly about the stuff that I have discovered. And I am also terrified about the court system. I'm wondering if

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You know, there's a criminal network within the courts in Los Angeles and New York because even the facts of the case, what was happening in the courtroom, they did intentionally did not tell the public.

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They just stayed with the accusations and didn't tell the public what was happening in the courtroom because it would terrify us because irrespective of how you feel about Harvey Weinstein, if you ever get in trouble one day, you're going to have to go through the exact same court. So it's never root for the courts to be corrupt because you don't like someone. Rod writes, Candace, you rock, baby.

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Matt A. writes, thank you for exposing pedophiles. It's about time we stop letting them be. As an Assyrian Christian ethnic group, thank you for speaking out about issues in the Middle East in a fair way. Thank you so much. I really pride myself on doing that.

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And we actually should do another update and speak about what's happening in the Middle East because there is a lot, especially what's going on in the DRC. Just incredibly horrific. Vash writes, maybe a deep dive into Justin Drew Bieber. I am hopeful that at some point you do. Hailey Baldwin has ruined him by riding his coattails, praying for Justin every day. I do not agree with that assessment.

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We have done episodes on Justin Bieber. You should go watch them. Just go to pivot over to the live tab and you'll see we did a couple of episodes on Justin Bieber. And I actually think it's the opposite. I think Justin Bieber is trying to get out of Hollywood and you don't get out of Hollywood. Yeah. There's only one way out of Hollywood and it's not the easy route.

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Emiliano writes, God protect you, Candace. And by the way, just going back to Vash's comment, like all of the media press suddenly attacking Justin Bieber. Because of my knowledge about what they do, if somebody's got something to reveal or something to say, I have questions about that. And maybe there is a time and place where we could do a Justin Bieber deep dive.

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Holisticology writes, I guess the child's paternal care matters only if you're on the right side of politics. Yeah, it's just can we just consistently say the left and the right? If you impregnate a woman and you know how babies are made and she didn't drug you, which in this both circumstances works. Neither one of them were drugged. Hunter Biden drugged himself.

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An analysis found that Harvey Weinstein had been thanked or praised 34 times, as many times as God. And that makes sense when you come to understand that within the pagan culture of statue worship, Harvey Weinstein was a god.

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And you just got to be responsible for your kid, man. Like, you're not a hero for getting a woman pregnant and then trying to say, oh, well, she's a go digger. It's just like, I don't care. I don't care if London Roberts pursued you because you're Hunter Biden. I just don't care. Take care of the child. Acknowledge the child. And it's the only person that the only victim in this.

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It's neither neither side other than the child. It is the child that misses out when they don't grow up in a stable household. It is the child that misses out when they have an absent father. And I used to think conservatives stood against that. I don't know if I don't know what's happened over the last couple of months. This is the problem, by the way, with Hollywood culture.

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Now it's seeping into conservative culture where they're like, everyone's just so starstruck by Elon Musk, you know, and they can't they can't for some reason can't filter their values and just say, OK, I like him for this. I like him for rescuing X because I do. But I really don't like his his style of raising children and of impregnating a bunch of women, which I don't.

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Love writes, I'm very interested to hear what Candace tells us about Rose McGowan as she was a big part in accusing Harvey. I have had some conversations with Rose McGowan and she will likely find out about this. And she and I were actually supposed to meet down in Mexico. There's a fun fact for you. And it could not happen because I had an unfortunate change in jobs last

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Well, actually, I would say fortunate change in jobs, but meaning that just like things got shifted, it didn't end up happening. But Rose McGowan, if you are watching, let's make it happen where we can still be in communication. She, interestingly enough, is not a supporter of the Me Too movement. So let's have that conversation. Colonel Kurtz writes, I respect your guts on Weinstein.

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Can you give us a Marilyn Manson update? All of this can be a part of this Harvey series because we're going to go through tech, tech, tech, tech, tech, all the Me Too cases that fell apart. His fell apart very recently and there were reasons for that. And I had already said that Marilyn Manson was going to be found not guilty.

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Very scary that the media can have you rooting for somebody to lose their freedom and rooting for somebody to lose everything. And that's why I said TikTokers begin with the journalists. Start looking to who their parents are, who their families are, and the picture will start to come together. Lastly, Mig writes, all I remember is it hit huge.

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Oprah came out and laid a smoke screen and the next thing I knew he was in jail. It was like cremating a body too fast. Yes, Mig, I love it. This is the last comment because that so perfectly encapsulates how I felt where I didn't really know anything, but I just knew he was bad, right? Like I was just like, he's, I don't know, he's bad. And I felt that.

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And the purpose of me even taking a phone call of him, I'm not a person who's going to be persuaded. You're on the left. I'm on the right. We have nothing in common. And I realize that even I have the potential to be completely, I guess, have a spell of sorts cast on me by the media if there is so much information and I just don't have the energy to dilute it all.

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And now I have that energy and I can't wait. I'm going to be hitting up TikTokers. I'm like, Steph with the deets. Got a new project for you. Be better. Yeah, Marcos, if you're watching, I'm going to have all of you on this because you guys were amazing watching your content and all of us, the way we were able to pull across the Justin Baldoni stuff.

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And if you thought that was a lot, wait till we get to the Harvey Files. Looking forward to Harvey Speaks, you guys. We want to support our work. Obviously, we're keeping the bulk of this series completely free. Head to CandaceOwens.com and support us.

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You can do that by buying my new book, Make Him a Sandwich, which you guys are going to absolutely love, which is going to unpack the feminist movement. Fellas, buy this for your girl. If she opens it and she's like, I love it, put a ring on it. If she opens the present and she's like, Candace Owens, think twice. That's all I'm saying is think twice. Get to the bottom of what her values are.

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With seemingly unlimited access to not only A-list actors, but also heads of state. He had it all. Power, wealth, and artistic success. This meant that within Tinseltown, Harvey could make or break a career. And no one knew that better than Harvey. But cracks began to emerge, first with rumors of impropriety spun as jokes.

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CandaceOwens.com for more, you guys. We will see you tomorrow.

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Of course, Harvey had built up a wall of political power around him that seemed impossible to penetrate, thanks in large part to his philanthropic endeavors, as well as his relationships with leading politicians. That is until the fall of 2017, when Harvey's world came crashing down.

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On October 5th, two reporters from The New York Times, Megan Thewey, yes, that Megan Thewey, and Jodi Kantor, published a report detailing decades of sexual abuse. This report was followed up by Ronan Farrow publishing a piece in The New Yorker. Suddenly, more than 80 women began publicly accusing Harvey Weinstein of sexually abusing or sexually assaulting them. the media went into a frenzy.

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The Me Too movement had been ignited. In the blink of an eye, Harvey Weinstein lost his company, his marriage, and eventually his freedom, trading in red carpets for perp walks. A-list actors and actresses did an about-face.

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Hollywood turned its back on their beloved Harvey. But was the public told the truth? You're just going to have to take my word when I tell you that, no, the public was not told the entire truth about this story. And the Harvey Weinstein story runs very deep. I can tell you that without flinching. In fact, I pride myself on never believing the media, always investigating things further.

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But I can admit I fully fell for the narrative as it pertained to Harvey Weinstein, mostly because, first and foremost, there were just too many women, right? There were too many women that were all saying the exact same thing.

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And truthfully, I didn't even know why he was in prison or who specifically among the many women that had come out with all of these allegations and accusations against him had been the one, the two or the three that actually got him into prison. I just knew somewhere in the back of my mind that he had to have done something because 80 plus women, like I said, is just too many.

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And by the way, that's kind of the point. It's a very effective media strategy that's been employed by the media since the 1930s. For those of you that are in the book club, in my book club, you know, one of the books that we're reading is Hollywood Babylon.

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And it really woke me up to the fact that when Hollywood wants to hide something, they flood the media with so much information and so many different possibilities and so many stories that people can't think. The public can't think. Our minds just become cluttered and we just accept whatever it is that they're trying to tell us to accept.

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I want to say this because this is the craziest part of this. Harvey Weinstein and I are, of course, an extremely unlikely pairing, okay? We have nothing in common virtually. He is emblematic of Hollywood, and I absolutely despise Hollywood, truly. He gave millions of dollars away over his lifetime to the ADL, the Anti-Defamation League.

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I am literally on the ADL's list for being Adolf Hitler as of last year. He also gave to every Democratic presidential nominee, and I'm a committed Republican. So I really want you guys to imagine that. He and I having conversations over a prison line. I want your imaginations to really run wild with what that conversation might have looked and sounded like.

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And I want to tell you more about that today. There is so much that I want to tell you about those conversations as we begin to unfold this series. I will. Currently, we're just in a little bit of a legal hold. But suffice it to say that two years ago, when we had our first conversation, I was convinced that Harvey Weinstein was guilty of something. And to be clear,

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Harvey Weinstein is not Justin Baldoni. OK, when you come down this series, you're not going to be like Harvey Weinstein's my cousin kombucha. No, none of that. OK, he's not some puppy who got kicked by a swarm of bullies. Harvey was a bully who I believe may have stepped on the toes of a bigger bully, a network of bullies, so to speak. Many people forget, but Hollywood was founded upon gangs.

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And as a part of this investigation into the larger Me Too movement, I have now spoken to actresses, singers, Backstreet Boys, you name it. Many of whom believe that the Me Too movement consists of something that's akin to a criminal network. Journalists,

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acting as the hitmen, paid-off law firms which assist in corporate shakedowns, essentially a cartel of sorts that's operating in plain daylight, using a movement about sexual abuse to wrangle publishing rights and ownership away from certain people. So what do I believe today? Well...

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Other than to just come clean with you guys about the fact that I have been keeping a very big secret. Not because I wanted to. I don't do secrets. Because of contracts, lawyers, employment changes, all things that were well beyond my control.

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We'll get into it also as a part of this series, but I believe Michael Jackson also strongly asserted something similar, said something's going on here in Hollywood. And then he was swiftly met with media allegations, so many allegations, too many allegations of pedophilia, and then a highly publicized trial, criminal trial to that effect.

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So yeah, I believe the media has been used for longer than we're willing to admit to take down certain people or companies for reasons that are not immediately clear to the public. And regarding Harvey Weinstein, after looking into the case for years, I believe that his New York case was rightfully overturned.

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And that this time, the public, and I'm now calling on you, TikTokers, citizen journalists, as I start giving you these facts and giving you information that the courts not allow into the courts, you better pay close attention. Because he's about to be retried, and I will guarantee you that you will be as absolutely shocked as I was.

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I really do believe that TikTokers, mommy sleuths, it's time to start looking into journalists Megan Toohey, Jodi Kantor, Ronan Farrow. Learn a bit about these families, their families. Where did these people come from? Why are they being given Pulitzers? I expect Harvey Weinstein's case in Los Angeles, which he has appealed, is also going to be overturned.

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And I know that saying all that right now today probably sounds insane to you, probably as insane as it sounded a year ago when I said, hey, Brigitte Macron is a biological male. And now many of you are realizing that I didn't sound so insane. So trust me, I have the receipts. I would never say such things without receipts. And the receipts here are long and they are dark.

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And it just points to something really nefarious going on in Hollywood that has tentacles everywhere. And I will say this, in many ways, Harvey made it very easy to take him down because he was undoubtedly, like I said, this is not Justin Baldoni. He was undoubtedly a very immoral man. I want to make that clear. That is one thing that has not shifted my perspective.

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I guess what I should say here is that you should know that way long before I ever embarked on looking into Blake Lively or Brigitte McCrone, there was another series that I was very keen to bring to life. And trust me when I say that this one, is just going to make the American media lose its collective hive mind because it concerns them.

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I'm not like, oh, my gosh, Harvey. No, he was an immoral man. He was cheating on his wife. He was screaming at assistants. He was running the peninsula like it was a brothel. OK, treating journalists like they were scum of the earth. So it is very hard. It was very hard for me to really just stick to the facts. It was hard for me to immediately reconcile Harvey.

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who this person was with the potential that in the end, and I'm now speaking specifically regarding the crimes for which he was charged for, the reasons that he is in prison. It was hard for me to reconcile in the beginning that he may have been intentionally wrongfully convicted.

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But next week, I'm going to invite you guys all down the rabbit hole with me in our investigative series, which will be entitled Harvey Speaks. And so what that means for the Hollywood people that are watching this, the PR agents, the celebrities, yeah. You know what I know. A lot of you guys kind of happy he was in prison, gone, could never think about this guy anymore.

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But you know, it's a funny thing. When Harvey Weinstein had so much power, so many of you A-listers who laughed and made jokes, first went from calling him God to then throwing him under the bus. I would imagine... R.B. Weinstein might have been your first phone call when you yourselves were in trouble. That's why you want him in prison. That's why you never want him to speak. R.B.

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Weinstein probably knows where a lot of the Hollywood bodies are buried because he probably helped bury them. All I know is that you guys, and I'm talking to you, Hollywood, you guys are on notice. So stay tuned. All right, guys, I do want to tell you about one of our sponsors, Good Ranchers. Did you know that over 85 percent of grass fed beef in stores is imported?

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Some really big lies that they told to the public, and I would call these lies by omission. Just like we learned via the Justin Baldoni and New York Times story, when you omit certain facts which radically transform public opinion, you're a liar, right? There's no other way to say it. You are intentionally lying to

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So bear with me. I mean, I think everybody has sort of sensed that I am getting a little apathetic on the topic of politics. And there is a reason for that. I said this to you guys, like, you know, if you really love people in politics, don't get don't get to know them. Don't meet them. I think there's actually an expression there.

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Like, you know, don't meet the people that you or the celebrities that you love because then you're going to find out about them. It's just going to ruin it for you.

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And this has kind of been my experience over the last couple of years where I realized that I'm not quite sure if either the left or the right is married to principles and if they're really just married to the idea of getting at each other. Right. So we covered this last week. Elon Musk had another secret love child.

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OK, I'm saying another because this is allegedly the 13th child, at least that the public knows about. I would very much bet that there are more than 13 children that are out there. But we found out about this one because the baby mama in question, Ashley St. Clair, decided to break it, the news, onto her Twitter account, her ex account.

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And she alleged that the reason that she was doing it was because the Daily Mail had been snooping going through her building, putting her child at risk, and she didn't want, she wanted the public to find out on her own terms. And the Daily Mail piece was very invasive in my view.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is the moment we have all been waiting for. I'm so excited to share with you this interview with Xavier Poussard, the journalist who initially broke the Brigitte Macron scandal via a publication. He did multiple series in its collaborative work with Natasha Ray, who had helped him. You'll hear about that later. So much is leading up to this moment, obviously.

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I remember the first time that I saw that photo because that's actually what got me involved in the case. It was, for me, a matter of common sense. I just looked at the photo and the Daily Mail was trying to tell me that the little girl on the lap was young Brigitte. And I just looked over to the left of the photo and I said, no, I have two eyes.

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Obviously, I don't even know what the theory is, but that's clearly Brigitte. A very distinct face. You don't you can't really change your face. Well, I guess you can. But it was very distinct to me.

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So this is sort of what Natasha noticed is looking at this family photo, you're looking into Amion, you're looking into this chocolatiers and you're noticing that this boy on the left, you don't know anything about whatsoever. What happens next?

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OK, so that's fascinating because and this was also something that, again, I always tell my listeners, just common sense. Right. So I'm just thinking I'm the first lady of France. I'm Candace. If somebody comes to me and says, hey, your brother doesn't exist or your sister doesn't exist, I'm going to take an opportunity to do a press conference.

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I'm going to stand next to my brother and I'm going to say conspiracy theories are harmful. Let's put this to bed. I wouldn't contact the French equivalent to the Secret Service. and have them detain a journalist that's working on a story. That instantly flags me as very odd.

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So you're saying in addition to this, they're also giving you misinformation, ironically, and trying to get you to arrive at the wrong conclusion. So you've got intimidation and you have misinformation, and all you're doing at this point is researching. You haven't even arrived at any conclusions, but that's probably making you feel like, what's going on here?

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Unfortunately, you guys, that is where we are going to have to cut the interview. As we said, the last time we spoke with Xavier Poussard, our interview got taken down from YouTube and we want to play it safe. So all of you can head to CandaceOwens.com and watch the interview in its entirety. The rest of the interview for free. It's completely free of charge.

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The topic is way too important for us to put it behind a paywall. We hope that you appreciate the conversation and I can't wait to speak with you guys about it on tomorrow's show. We'll see you then.

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And of course, that's at CandaceOwens.com. So what we're going to do today is we're going to give you 15 minutes of that interview with Xavier Poussard here on YouTube, obviously making sure that nothing trips over any other policies. And then the rest of the interview will be available. for free at CandaceOwens.com so that you can watch it in its entirety.

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Just to let you guys know, when he and I were sitting down, I was still trying to comprehend elements of the story. So you may hear me ask questions as the viewers would ask questions, trying to understand exactly what it was that he was suggesting. That's why we felt that making this a series so that you guys could at least have the backing of the first episode.

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six episodes to comprehend what he is saying, which I think most of you do now, was so important to us, so important to the team. We have put so much work into this. And I am just truly humble in all of this, grateful to Xavier Poussard, Natasha Ray, and all of the journalists who have braved the French government, really, and the evil of the French government to bring us to this moment.

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So without further ado, here is Xavier Poussard. Xavier, I really don't even know where to begin here. I already feel like this is going to be the biggest story of the year and we're only in January. And so I think just for my audiences and everybody worldwide, just tell us how you got involved in the Brigitte Macron, Emmanuel Macron story, what your background is and what piqued your interest.

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So I just wanted to let you know when I sat down with him at the end of last year, never in a million years could I have imagined that Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte would be sending me a legal letter. I believe because they knew that this interview was going to be forthcoming and they did not want this series to happen.

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And so they sort of dropped this biography, Brigitte Macron, Emilio Macron. There's this unofficial biography that gets dropped about them. And what is the first thing that strikes you as peculiar?

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And in many ways, this series may not have happened had it not been for me digging my feet further into into the ground simply because I believe in free speech and I believe in information and I believe that what is happening in France is evil. Xavier Poussard has never before this moment appeared on camera. He has been remarkably private about his work.

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So essentially what you're saying is the media tried to do the modern feminist spin on this. Somebody got involved and said, we'll take the feminist angle, the sexist angle, the misogynist angle, the ageist angle and say, you only notice this because it's an older woman. And why is that a problematic if it's OK for Donald Trump to be dating Melania?

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It's actually a very smart way to try to spin it. But you're going, no, no, no, no. This is not about the age gap between because it's a man or a woman. Emmanuel Macron was just 14 years old and she was 39.

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He has dedicated years of his life, has dealt with the brunt of the, what I would describe as a totalitarian government in France coming after him and his family. He has uprooted his family and had to move to Italy to make sure that they were safe and make sure that they were protected. And of course, he is not the only one.

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Again, that's 800-795-1210 or visit AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. That's AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. So these are not... conspiracy journalists. These aren't people on Reddit that are trying to make noise. What you're saying is these people were well-intended. They were interested in this feminist angle.

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They thought this is going to be an amazing story to cover how this woman came to power, sort of like doing a profile piece on Michelle Obama during the Obama years. And they were sort of going, wait a minute. Where is this person? How did this person come to be? I've never seen such a black hole.

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And this kind of gets into maybe something you never thought you were going to expect here as you were digging into this. You expected probably some holes in the story, but not, I guess, what you discovered next.

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This interview is a culmination of a year worth of work, really a year last year, where I read just the tip of the iceberg and recognized that this was an explosive story. And then when Xavier Pizarro and I initially sat down and we just showed a picture of him,

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And is this the moment when you were first introduced to, I guess, the name, the person, Jean-Michel Trogno? Because prior to, there were essentially just no pictures of Brigitte Macron for 30 plus years of his or her life. And was it Natasha that first brought forth the name to you, Jean-Michel Trogno?

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So in America, there's an expression we say the dog that doesn't bark. Right. So what's quite interesting is this is the dog that's not barking. It's there's all of this information about all the family members. And you recognize that there's no information about this family member. And that photograph that we saw of their family and on the own.

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YouTube moved to move to take the interview entirely off and essentially said that we weren't allowed to discuss cults or imply anything about cults, but we felt that they had perhaps been contacted by someone with a lot of power. Well, this time what we've done as a response is we built an entire website where we can put interviews like this up with the fear of having them taken down.

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BREAKING: My FIRST Prison Phone Call With Harvey Weinstein | Candace Ep 153

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All right, you guys, happy Thursday. There is so much going on in the world. It looks as though the first phase of the Epstein files have been released. And to be honest, it doesn't really look like much, like a nothing burger. Also, remember Ari Emanuel, WME exec CEO, came out to defend Blake and Ryan against Justin Baldoni, whatever his name is.

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Eugenia was the only person, despite four women who brought a case against him in Los Angeles, she was the only one that was able to earn a conviction. And the details, like I said, are just going to shock you. Hers was the only one that landed a conviction. What I can say is that I've never changed my stance on the Me Too movement.

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And this is perhaps why this third party individual sought me out at the very beginning. She knew that when everybody loved the Me Too movement, I instantly said this is going to be a threat to due process. And that I have remained steady on this point, defending people who I... really politically disagreed with people like Matt Lauer.

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that my husband was dealing with. And I can now tell you that that legal hurdle was that when I had first begun speaking with Harvey Weinstein, we had signed this limited NDA that I had completely forgotten about. And we had to go through some effort to have that NDA, to have me released from that NDA so that I could speak about the topic without me being risked, you know, a risk of being sued.

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When I looked at the details of his case, it seemed pointedly ridiculous that they were claiming or trying to present him as a rapist in the media.

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I remained objective about things and know that even if you don't love a person or you think a person is immoral or wrong or cheating, as a lot of these men are definitively cheating and they are definitively abusing their power and the dynamics of their relationships, whether it be with employees or actresses, That is entirely different than referring to someone as a rapist.

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And despite those thoughts about the Me Too movement, never in a million years did I think that biases would then arrive into the courtroom. I think I've always had faith in our court system. And now that's beginning to change.

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Now I'm beginning to wonder if our courtrooms have been politicized, if when a movement grows so big, whether it's Black Lives Matter or Me Too, somebody has to hang, if you know what I'm saying. And I'm really excited to bring forth this series because it allows us to go backwards.

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It allows us to go from it getting so crazy that somebody who is as perfectly innocent as I believe he is as Justin Baldoni is now suffering the consequences because We didn't do the right thing years ago by objectively analyzing things about people who are definitely not puppies, like I said, people like Harvey Weinstein.

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So I am very much looking forward to presenting to you all beginning next week, our newest series, as we mentioned a couple of days ago, Harvey Speaks. And, yeah, I just I am really, really looking forward to showing you guys this. And you, like I said, are going to be positively shocked about the details of this case. It is in and of itself a Hollywood movie that is worth producing.

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And, yeah, I'm grateful that Harvey's team has sort of trusted me to just do what I do best. And I've said to him, look, I told him directly a million times, I think you're an immoral man. And I cannot, after seeing all this, see you as anything but an immoral man. Yes, you're obviously a brilliant businessman and you're a tough negotiator and you're a powerful person, but...

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I will do this case justice and I have no doubt that you guys are going to be in for a journey. So you're going to need to get your journals out next week as we map out the Harvey Weinstein files. Harvey speaks. All right, guys, before we get into everybody just losing their minds on X today because there's so much happening, the Epstein Files, we've got Tate in the news.

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They're back on American soil. Ron DeSantis speaking out against American citizens on American soil. And of course, Ari Emanuel, I want to remind you about Planned Parenthood because we know They have been spending millions to target vulnerable women.

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And the answer to that is pre-born, which I'm very passionate about the work that they do, because while Planned Parenthood is convincing them that the abortion pill is a quick, easy solution, it's not true. It just isn't true. There's so much devastation that can follow.

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Again, all my husband's headaches, but I'm excited to tell you about that first phone call Because you're probably all wondering how, how did Candace Owens end up speaking with Harvey Weinstein? As I said to you guys, we have had and still have really nothing in common. It is really stunning, truly stunning.

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Yeah, so every client is on his roster, and there's no one higher up than him, essentially. And he comes from a very powerful family, Rahm Emanuel being his brother, Zeke Emanuel being his other brother. They're just running it politically, socially, and you just don't get a bigger agent than Ari Emanuel, who right now is trying to take WME private, owns UFC. and the WWE.

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Yeah, WWE, the wrestling as well. They just kind of wrangled that from Vince McMahon. So yeah, he's one of those guys that kind of speaks like he thinks that he's in an HBO flick. You know, like it's Succession. You can tell, oh, Justin Baloney, baloney, phony, ha, ha, ha, ha, I'm so powerful. It's just annoying. People like that are just so annoying. Life is not a movie script.

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Just try being a human being. And so news had broken, I think it was two weeks ago, that he had joined the Freakonomics podcast, the Freakonomics radio, and they had done an event that was on stage. People attended this event and it ran live on their radio where he had just insulted Justin Bologna and made him feel really small and obviously did not read the room.

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And by read the room, I mean read the general public response to people feeling like a bunch of A-list Hollywood bullies who need to be shown that bullying is unacceptable, right? And so he didn't read that Roman. He decided, I'm going to bully him a little bit more and also condemn people on social media and pretend that Ryan and Blake are good people.

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Even though you're reading your messages and forming your own opinions, I'm going to remind you that we are the media, we have the power, and you should stop doing that. He really just kind of went so far as to say, like, you know, social media has been great, but it's sometimes bad. Why is it bad, Ari? Because we're able to get around bullying

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where we're able to get around your PR agents, we're able to get around your pieces in The Hollywood Reporter and your pieces in TMZ and your pieces in The Cut, which we'll get to later, who just wrote an amazing hit piece on me and those of you that are watching my podcast. Yeah. Anyways, it was a bad look. It did not make anybody feel more warmed to Blake and Ryan.

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And I think actually one of the more compelling things about he and I coming together on anything. So the story actually begins in November of 2022. Like, that is how deep I am on this.

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And now it's interesting because the host of Freakonomics, Stephen Dubner... is now coming out and saying, actually, that episode is never going to air on our podcast. And they're entitling it The Show That Never Happened and saying that there were just tech issues with the venue during their live show. And they apparently just never recorded that episode. Take a listen to Stephen Dubner.

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And now that you know how I am in terms of organizing like a psychopath and looking at timelines and really deeply researching things so that the public can be invited to do the same, you can only imagine if I've had the runway since 2022 to do this. November of 2022, that's

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Yeah, I'm sure that is the truth and the whole truth and nothing but the whole truth. That sounds a little bit like Baldoni baloney to me. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but just so you know, it's never going to see the light of day. Most powerful guy in the room. But there were just some tech issues.

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And even though it ran on our radio and we have we're obviously have a transcript of it. It's all very fuzzy and you can't see it. Like I said, I think that they're trying to pivot and their media strategy is changing altogether. They're angry at us for being independent sleuths and mommy sleuths, which reminds me.

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So I was also telling you guys, the people that started the Me Too movement in general, like we kind of have the same batch of reporters that have been involved in this. Jodi Kantor, Megan Toohey at The New York Times and Dylan Farrow, who writes for The New Yorker or New York Magazine. I should check that. I'm not sure which one. I think it's the New Yorker, but let me check that.

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Yes, he writes for actually have no idea if you guys could look that up. The point being is that I suddenly got contacted by The Cut, which is owned by New York Magazine. Essentially, that's their parent company. And it's a big mainstream media publication.

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And the woman was essentially working on a hit piece on me, saying that I'm trying to rebrand with the Justin Baldoni and Taylor Swift situation. And I'm going... have you never listened to my guy? I have been adamantly against the me too movement. Oh, is this the actual article that she wrote? Thanks so much, Savannah. I have been adamantly against the me too movement since its inception.

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Like since day one there, I have not pivoted on this whatsoever. I have covered multiple cases about it. Uh, Amber Heard, you name it. I have said this is not good. We as women need to understand that we birth sons. We marry men. These are going to be our fathers, our sons, our husbands. And we have to believe in due process. And this was before I had any sons that I had been saying this.

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And she was so snarky on the phone. She essentially writes this piece and she calls me every name. Transphobic. She calls me racist. She calls me anti-Semitic. And she's basically... I guess condemning you guys for watching my show and being like, you're being fooled. This is the headline that she that she came up with this this journalist who is so bad, by the way, at a hit piece.

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So it's just boring. Hit pieces are so boring. And it's entitled by E.J. Dickinson or E.J. Dixon. Don't fall for Candace Owens's rebrand. And she's unable to present a single fact about how I've rebranded any of my positions whatsoever. She's just like, well, people are watching her now and her show is getting a lot of views. And I'm like, yeah, that's actually not me being rebranded.

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It's just people seeing you for who you are. People are starting to see the mainstream media for who they are. And so if they're looking at a circumstance and they're recognizing how they have been completely lied to by a publication they trust, like a publication I used to trust, The New

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who did nothing wrong, it becomes, I don't know, understandable to them how it might be that you've done it to others. That's it, okay? And they can go back. I haven't removed any of my content. She even tried to pretend that me wiping my Instagram to promote my book was me trying to like wipe my past. I did the exact same thing with my first book.

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It's when I was contacted by a third party to my shock and surprise, and they asked me if I would just take a look at the Harvey case and if I would maybe be interested in interviewing him. And to be clear, this is back when Harvey Weinstein was in Los Angeles because he was very soon going to be eventually convicted on rape charges.

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I wiped my Instagram because I wanted the focus to be my first book. And it has nothing to do with trying to run from my past. I'm all over the Internet. I'm not running from my past and I haven't pivoted on my perspectives. And so you sense this thing over and over again where the mainstream media is getting frustrated because we are the investigators now and we are the reporters.

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And I'm not telling you guys what to think. I'm giving you evidence. Something that I have seen happening and operating for a very long time, a nasty movement that has taken down people who are not as innocent, like I said, as Justin Baldoni. But finally, I think both sides are waking up to it. And there is a frustration because they can no longer control the narrative.

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And when you read this article, Candace Owens has gone mainstream. The right wing's commentators coverage of Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni case has reached millions of viewers. And she sort of even here's a huge tell in articles, guys. whenever they put in parentheses just one word and the rest of the sentence was actually written by them, they're just taking me out of context.

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Like they're just fully taking any person out of context. It means actually if I presented the full sentence or the full paragraph of what this person said in its entire context, then I couldn't smear this person. And she does this all throughout the piece, like trying to paint me as an anti-Semite, as a transphobe.

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She uses just one word, which is a word I actually said, but doesn't actually provide the full sentence of what I said. And it's just such a tired, tired approach. And it's just amazing to me that these people are so pompous and so arrogant and their views are down and their listeners aren't listening. And they can look at the podcast charts and see that independent media is picking up.

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People like Theo Vaughn, who is neither on the left or the right, but somebody who regularly speaks about his addictions, who's now hosting people on the left and the right. And they can't figure out that... People are tired of them. They're tired of being name called.

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You know, Ari, the preschool rhyming tough guy in Hollywood, too cool to learn his client's names. Well, Now, Freakonomics is saying they were the ones that hosted him when he said this, that the footage, the video footage of this has been lost. So we will never be able to see that interview. Yeah, right.

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Whether you're on the left or you're on the right, you're tired of being called names for thinking critically about various topics. And so I just thought it was like really interesting to just see that the dripping resentment of her trying to paint me like she's still going with like the literally Hitler racist transphobe who show me that person that exists. How can I just be all of these things?

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How do I hate everybody? Maybe I do hate everybody. Actually, I'm pretty pregnant. That might not be like the wrong thing that she's saying here. Maybe I am just hating everybody at this point. I hate everybody. I hate everybody for everything that they are. Okay, whatever. But it was interesting to just see that she kind of went with that.

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Also, I wanted to shout you guys out because this is hilarious. So I've been saying how much. Again, nuance. Even if you think someone did something wrong, you don't need to dismiss a person altogether or if you disagree with them. That is the beauty of critical thinking. Take what you want. Leave what you don't. And I don't love Taylor Swift as a person, but she's got some bops.

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And I've been telling you guys that I love the London Boys song, and especially because I married a guy from London. Well, somebody pointed out to me, you guys tagged me, that now... A lot of people who are watching the show are going and downloading London Boy. So we're contributing to her sales all while examining her character, which shows that we are incredibly nuanced on this show.

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I absolutely love you guys. And I went to her comment section and look at it. It's amazing. These are like the top comments. I would never even have heard this song until Candace Owens said she'd bop to this forever. A fact. This person never heard the song until Candace talked about it here because of her. Love you, Candace. Candace is absolutely right about this song. It's a bop. It's a bop.

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Candace absolutely sings this to George. Yes, it is also because I know all of the places that she's referring to in London. The only thing she gets wrong in that video, I mean, in that song is that she says high tea and actually properly it's afternoon tea. So I knew I knew that that that wasn't the right thing to do, Taylor, but it's OK. It's still a bop.

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You know, you can say she loves high tea, but high tea is actually what Americans think it is. It's actually afternoon tea. But I married a guy from London, so I had to learn all these little nuances over time. But it's a bop. And I actually am so proud of that, that people are downloading it and loving it. Because like I said before, it's good to have nuance.

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It's good to say, here's what I like about this person. Here's what I don't like about this person. We don't need to like rapidly dismiss people altogether or pretend that she doesn't have bops. And we are bopping to London boy forever. All right, guys, I also speaking of nuance, we should also speak about what's happening with the Tate brothers. This has been insane.

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So we begin this conversation and I'm instantly like, yeah, of course, I would love the opportunity to interview Harvey Weinstein, obviously, for no other reason other than the fact that he is Harvey Weinstein. And it makes for a very compelling interview, a man that had so much power who got taken down by the Me Too movement. So we had a little bit of back and forth, me and this third party.

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And I know people hate to see me coming because I will take the time to read through a lawsuit, even if it's in a foreign language, whether it's happening in France, like I will say something and people will think it sounds completely insane at the time. And then I get proven right. Happened with the Becoming Brigitte series a year ago. Oh, she's crazy. She's spiraling.

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Now people are digging to the series and they just want more and they can't believe that there was something there. And I got completely lambasted by the left and the right when I came out and I said, I reviewed the Tate brothers case in Romania. Now they were being held on house arrest. First, they were in a prison cell for months and they had no charges against them. Then they were...

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put on house arrest for about two years. And finally, I just said, I'm going to actually read through this entire case because everyone's telling me, Candace, you're crazy. Like, they're so guilty. And, you know, they're guilty of human sex trafficking. Obviously, even hearing that.

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And then they were sending me all these videos of Andrew Tate looking like he was 10 years younger, talking about how he, you has a webcam service and he takes advantage of women. And I thought, OK, let me actually take a look at this because maybe there was something that I'm missing. And when I read the case, I came out and I said, they're not going to be convicted on this.

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There's nothing in this case. There's nothing to do with Andrew 10 years ago, five years ago, things he said on the Internet, things that he tweeted. The case that I am looking at is going to fall apart. Well, guess what? The case fell apart. OK. And it's kind of crazy because it was this sort of extrajudicial measures that were taken by a government.

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And it should scare you, irrespective of whether you agree. And everybody knows I'm Catholic. My perspectives on pornography are very clear. Even if you agree and you have every right to say that you don't like that they ran a webcam business because you shouldn't, because pornography is bad and I think that it fundamentally weakens men.

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And by the way, if we're going to speak about getting rid of pornography, the very last people we should be worrying about is Andrew and Tristan Tate. OK, let's talk about Pornhub. Like, really, guys, if we're going to go for it, let's talk about Pornhub. And so I just had the nuance. I read the case and everyone condemned me. How could you defend them?

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I'm not I'm just reading the facts and they're not going to be convicted. Well, guess what? That happened. OK, the case ended up being thrown out in Romania. They said there's no evidence here. It's exactly what I was saying. There's not enough evidence here to bring charges against them.

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And the prosecutors essentially were going to have to rebuild an entire case to try to charge them, at which case it looks like the Trump administration intervened because they are American citizens and they were just brought back to America. They are now on American soil. They landed this morning.

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And for some reason, people are angry about that because they don't like who Andrew and Tristan Tate are. They do not like their online personas. They don't like the way that they speak to women. And so they're happy to have these men be wrongfully convicted for something that they didn't do. I

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I cannot understand why you think you need to like someone or agree with their lifestyles in order to say that no person should spend a single second in prison for something that they didn't do. That is the moral stance to have, that due process is right, and that if they are an American citizen, of course, they belong back on American soil.

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And so Ron DeSantis, who kind of has always danced to his donors' emotions, came out and was asked about them landing in Florida, which is, like I said, they're American citizens. And here is what Ron DeSantis said.

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And they said, OK, well, they want to wait until he's actually convicted. That following month, he was to see if he's convicted. Rather, that following month in December, Harvey Weinstein was convicted in L.A. Fast forward to January. That's when we got into our back forth about this sort of limited NDA.

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OK, so to be very clear, that is deranged. That is not a conservative perspective. That should not be a liberal perspective. They were not convicted of anything. They were convicted of nothing. And what he is saying is that based on their conduct, even the person asking the question says they were accused. They weren't convicted. That's the point. Being accused of a crime means absolutely nothing.

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OK. As we have learned, you can be accused of anything today. You can be accused of being a sexual abuser or a sexual harasser if you're Justin Baldoni. The question is, were they convicted? The answer is no. I don't really care about how Ron DeSantis feels about an American citizen coming home. That disqualifies him from ever running for president of the United States ever again.

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If you cannot set aside your emotions... Right. Right. Right. Could you imagine? We're going to take a look and he absolutely will not be welcomed here as an American citizen if enough people are outraged by it. No, the right thing to say is they have not, to my knowledge, been convicted of any crimes. They are American citizens.

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If you're not asking me about their character or what I believe about pornography, which we can wax poetic about all day, then yes, they belong here. That's that's what it means to be a citizen of somewhere. It means that you get to come home if you are not convicted in a foreign country of something. You get to come home whenever you want. That's the right response to that.

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And I hope that as American citizens, we can all just agree across the line that that's the right thing to say and the right thing that should happen. And if something happens in the future and they get convicted of a crime somewhere else, OK, then what we should want for them is due process. If they get accused again of a crime, what we should always want is due process.

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And throughout that process, we can form our own opinions and we can look into the case and we can argue about it. And that's the way things should be. That's my opinion about the way things should be. I'm also reminding you guys about one of our sponsors, Beam, because I know that we all need to take more responsibility.

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And the next thing I knew, I was being patched in on a prison line to speak with Harvey Weinstein. And this is a day, this is a chapter in a future autobiography of my life that I will never forget because it was surreal in so many ways. It was just the opposite of what I was expecting. I guess to reflect upon it, what I was expecting was to speak with a defeated man.

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Or you can visit AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. Okay. Also... Epstein files. I am just tired of the Epstein conversation. We're never getting them, guys. OK, like I just feel like this is getting weird. And it's this excitement. Obviously, people that are implicated in these files are way too powerful and they're never going to let it be released.

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I'm filing JFK files and Epstein files as files that the American people are never going to be able to see because the people that are involved are the people that are still in control of America. How about that? That's what I think, actually. And so it makes no sense why we have this sort of media firestorm. The Epstein files are coming. The Epstein files are coming.

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And Attorney General Pam Bondi went on a media blitz and talks about how these files are coming up. People really excited. Here is her speaking to Jesse Waters on Fox News. And then I'll show you what we got. Take a listen.

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He is a person that is sitting in a prison cell. And the way that the third party person presented it to me was that essentially I assumed maybe partially everybody in the mainstream media had lied about him. And now he was maybe getting desperate. and wanted to speak with me. And I can be completely honest.

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Something that I find to be amazing about American history is how it's nearly impossible for us to ever have anything that implicates Israel declassified. You know, like if people know the story leading up to JFK's assassination, the arguments that he was having with Ben Gurion, the prime minister of Israel, the fact that AIPAC, then it was called AZC, was banned.

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Told by JFK that they had to register as foreign agents under FARA demanded that they demanded that they register as foreign agents and that obviously you're not allowed to lobby for a foreign country, according to our laws. And then lucky APAC, JFK got shot. And we're not allowed to see those files ever again. With Epstein, we know that he's had Mossad connections.

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That seems to be very apparent. CIA Mossad stuff. Again, CIA Mossad. I don't even know if there's a difference anymore. And suddenly it becomes very complicated to release files. Right. There's just something that's just so complicated about the process.

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And so we learned that phase one, phase one of the files are being and we've got to black out names, guys, because, you know, it takes a very long time to black out victims names. Right. There's 250 names, 250 names. You heard her. Send it to me, Pam. I will get it done in one hour, not even. Actually, what am I even saying? The apps today, whew. done, blacked out. I can color it.

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I can do this on Snapchat, Instagram. What do you want? What do you want? I'm just like so tired of the political back forth and pretending, oh, we're definitely going to be transparent. As soon as you know that there's any indication that Israel could be involved, we're not going to be transparent, my friends. OK, so phase one was a nothing burger.

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And I like a lot of the people that were at the White House and given You know, independent journalists, they kind of made this big hoo-ha. We're giving it to independent journalists. There's Libs of TikTok. There's Liz Wheeler. There is D.C. Drano.

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And to the right, by the way, Mike Cernovich, friend of mine who has actually one of the people who we should be thanking for the fact that Epstein ever got discovered in the first place. He's a lawyer and he filed a lawsuit because he saw something funny with the Epstein case. And I've spoken to him about this. So for years, he's not a fraudulent person by any stretch of the imagination.

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And he even said there's nothing here like there. He's saying he's blaming it on the SDN and why that they gave Pam Bondi only a little bit. And then she gave it to these independent journalists. Guys, can somebody give it to Brian Friedman? Can we just get a website like here's the files, unleash the files? for the whole public to read. I don't need meetings with independent journalists.

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We are the media now. All of us are the media now. We just need a website that's operative. And like I said, we can put squigglies on victims names. I'm like, let's just not do this song dance anymore. Can everybody just stop being fake and gay? Can we just stop? Can we all agree everywhere? Like we're done with it. And just, I'd rather someone just sit down and be like, look,

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Unfortunately, our nation is occupied and we did some crazy things like, you know, CIA maybe shot a sitting president. So we're not going to open that can of worms. We're just business as usual. If you guys don't mind, I'd be like, you know what? I kind of appreciate that honesty. It feels refreshing coming from the state. I might be OK with it. I could probably get down with that.

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Be like, yeah, it feels kind of good. I don't know. I feel good that you're just telling me. If you do this, like, look, we're so powerful. There's nothing you can really do about it. We're the CIA. We're going to keep doing what we want. I'd be like, OK, it feels better. It feels a little bit better than like gaslighting the public constantly. Right.

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Like I said, my motivation behind taking the phone call was, I think Harvey Weinstein's guilty, but who cares? I just would really like the opportunity to interview him about his life and how this all happened and how somebody could be where he was in life, and then fall. And I've already confessed to you, I thought Harvey Weinstein was guilty because there were 107 women, just to be clear, okay?

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I feel like that would be like better, more preferred. Am I crazy? I don't know. Is that just like weird pregnancy hormones that I would actually rather them just say like we are unbelievably corrupt and everybody's in the club and you're not? I'd like that. I'd say, thank you. I'd send them a gift at Christmas. I don't know. That's how I feel. I'd send them a Thanksgiving card or something.

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Anyways, we're not getting it. So I just want you guys to know that. You can ignore everything. The song, the dance, the pictures, the photos, the smiles, documents, the people. We're not getting it. This is a show and little tell. There's never going to be a tell because very powerful people are implicated. And that's the end of that.

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Anyways, you guys, I should see what you are saying to me and read some of your comments because we are going over time as we always do. Why do I always have so much to say? What is wrong with me? Ben Otten writes, unrelated to Weinstein, but do you remember Randy Quaid being called a lunatic for saying there were star killers murdering celebrities?

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Also, why is there no peep about Ghislaine Maxwell? Where did she go? Is that the dog that's not barking? Yeah, that's a very good question. And I don't I actually didn't follow the Randy Quaid thing. I do know that they said he was crazy, but I didn't follow why they were saying he was crazy or what he said.

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But generally speaking, as a rule of thumb, the crazy people are the ones that are telling the truth. And the totally sane people are the ones you have to watch out for. Zyra Maino writes, today I almost had a Suge Knight breakdown at our project group's dead weight. The only thing that stopped it was someone saying, calm down, Suge. I started laughing and I made a new friend.

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It happens to the best of us. Hugo writes, are you going to do a series about World War II and the reality of what really happened? I just watched a documentary called Europa, The Last Battle, but I don't know if I can trust the contents of that documentary, but I have trust in you.

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Well, I haven't seen that documentary, but I know that it is the most sensitive topic in the whole wide world is World War II. God forbid you speak to anyone who tells you any fact that was not approved in your third grade government class, your seventh grade class, when you learned about everything, they have a meltdown. And there's no further proof of that than

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Daryl Cooper joining Tucker Carlson, who's like a historian, like a nice guy. And he starts giving some facts that you maybe wouldn't learn in your high school class. And there was a mainstream media meltdown. And the reason for that is because the mainstream media has always been an arm of the CIA, at least since JFK was shot. Maria writes, Leonid Radvinsky lives in Florida.

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He is the owner of OnlyFans. Tate Brothers, not very moral, but they are citizens. This is why DeSantis will never be president. Wow. I did not know that. The owner of OnlyFans. Welcome in Florida. That's fine. You know why he's welcome in Florida? Because he hasn't been convicted of anything and he's an American citizen. So despite the fact that I think OnlyFans is disgusting.

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Absolutely disgusting. I wouldn't, of course, say that the person who created it belongs in America because my issues with pornography doesn't mean that I just get to randomly convict people and tell them that they get kicked out of the country. But, you know, who am I? I'm just someone who believes that we should be following the Constitution. John writes, pre-ordered seven copies this morning.

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Gotta pass them out to the potentials. I got women to vet, Candace. Aw, thank you for ordering seven copies of Make Him a Sandwich. Candace, can't step into the next year without my wife secured. Your book might just be the key. Yes, fellas, give it to a girl that you are dating. I want to know that she's wife material. You can order her pre-order.

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Make him a sandwich available at CandaceOwens.com. Gina writes, God bless you and your family, Candace. May Michael, the archangel, protect you under his wings. Thank you so much for saying that. And I do believe it is the prayers that have been keeping me safe. I don't know why the mainstream media still hates me so much. I just don't get it.

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107 women who came forth and made accusations from him. he sexually assaulted me. He did this. He sexually abused me. Whatever it was, there were just too many accusations. The media had completely flooded the zone in a way that made it impossible for me to believe that he could be anything but guilty.

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I promise I'm not this violent, crazy, racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, self-loathing woman. You know, I don't think I am. We can check when I get to 39 weeks pregnant. We're in the single digits now. So maybe, like I said, maybe I am a little angry at people. But I think you guys are just misrepresenting me and misrepresenting what I believe in. And I do have anger at both sides.

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I call everybody out all the time. I've done this forever. Go back. Like I said, my content is not being stripped from the internet. By the way, guys, look at this. Where is our little timer ticker thing for almost at 4 million subscribers on YouTube? Bring up my ticker, guys. I want them to see. Look at 5,000 more subscribers. Where are you, 5,000 more subscribers? Are you watching right now?

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Could you hit the subscribe button? Could you help us out? Could we get to 4 million subs so that we can party? And by party, I mean like go to bed early or something because that to me would be the best thing. That would be so exciting if I could go to bed at like 8.30 one night. Yes, I love that. Please hit the subscribe button if you are watching right now.

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Other than that, guys, I think that we have covered everything and I have to just see what everyone else is in a meltdown about. There are so many things that happened today. It seemed ridiculous, but can't thank you guys enough for sticking around and not believing the mainstream media smears and libels about me. I will see you guys tomorrow.

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And like I said, I say this as someone who takes pride in always looking beneath, looking, reading in between the lines and looking beneath the layer of social media manipulation and of mainstream media manipulation. But I fell for it, okay? I will just admit that, I will own that. So I just remember the casual demeanor that I had as I was being patched in.

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Like I was sitting like this, for those of you that are listening on audio, just sort of leaned back in a chair in this small cubicle, like, yeah, well, this guy's gotta let me take this interview. And this will be a nice little introductory phone call, nothing to worry about here. He gets patched in, he says, hello. Harvey Weinstein's voice is like a growl. And it's like, hello.

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But first, and before we also discuss the Tate brothers, they just landed on American soil and people are up in arms. I first wanted to tell you guys that I got the legal clearance to speak to you about my prison phone call with Harvey Weinstein and what brought me to do this series. And so I'm so excited. So let's jump right back in. Welcome back to Candace. Also, sorry we're 30 minutes late.

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That was actually really good. I did there. Hello. You know, and the first thing he says to me, I kid you not. OK. I don't understand how you can support Donald Trump. OK. Whoa. Stop everything. What is happening? What are we talking about? This is nothing to do with politics. My understanding is you just want me to do an interview with you.

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I am suddenly saying to him, yeah, and I'm answering and kind of recalculating the conversation and explaining why I support Donald Trump. And yeah, that's a known thing. Shouldn't you have already known that I support that? Why are we on the phone? And I just sort of answer. And I think I fumbled some just, you know, the real reason why I support him talks about the economy and like, who cares?

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And then he sort of gets into like, what about Kanye? Right. So I'm fresh off of my Kanye in Paris wearing the White Lives Matter shirts. And he's asking me questions about that. And he says, you know, I give a lot of money to the ADL. And I'm going, OK, here we go. I'm suddenly realizing that this is not The conversation I thought that we were going to be having.

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I have no idea why I'm on this phone call. And then he says to me, why would I go with you? And he tells me that he's speaking with three other people who want to do this interview, who have much better experience and a way further reach than I have. All things that are objectively true. He then says, I've never even heard of this company you work for.

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He mispronounces the company that I was working for at the time. And I realized at that moment that I was being big time for Harvey Weinstein and by Harvey Weinstein. And I just sort of sat up straight and recognized that Harvey Weinstein is still Harvey Weinstein. And he's making me pitch myself. I suddenly felt like I was trying out for the cheerleading team.

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I suddenly realized I'm auditioning for something and I had no idea I was going to be auditioning for something. And he's very powerful. And I want to communicate that to you guys. Harvey Weinstein is still very powerful. He is brilliant. He is not in prison because he was not innately intelligent and powerful. And I suddenly was nervous. It was so strange. I was nervous.

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And I'm going, why am I suddenly nervous trying to pitch myself to get this interview that I thought I had in the bag? And this guy is sitting in a cell and I'm having to recalculate and recalibrate all of this very quickly as I'm on this phone.

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Then he named someone who is, as a fact, one of the biggest and most influential media people in the world, someone that he is friends with, who he was in talks to do the interview with, not exactly someone that I could compete with, so to speak. Like I'm just Candace Owens and I'm nowhere near as big of these people. I have never been in the mainstream media.

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The mainstream media doesn't like Candace Owens. And it was obvious to me that at that moment that he was essentially taking this phone call to entertain his third party friend. And it kind of clicked and it dawned on me that that person was lobbying for him to do the interview with me. That person was a fan of Candace Owens.

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That person believes that if I took a look at this case, I would actually give it a fair shake on the basis of past investigations that I had done. And she was really saying to him that, You should do it with her. And he was disagreeing. So he was just on this phone to entertain a friend, in my view. I really felt that.

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And even though she felt I was the right person for the job, Harvey clearly did not. He did not think that I had the experience. And he still very much lives in the world of Miramax. He very much lives in the world of who is the best Hollywood person. He spoke to me about the right composers if I was going to do a docu-series. I'm not even thinking I'm music composers.

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What are we even speaking about? I thought this was going to be about a couple of interviews. Didn't think that we had the budget to do it in the right way. I mean, you just wouldn't even believe that sort of a conversation. It wasn't what I was expecting because he's still a visionary. He still wants to make movies. He still wants to tell stories in ways that are beautiful.

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And it's weird to say this, but there was something about the conversation that registered to me as naive, right? And I'm speaking about him. It seemed in the retrospect, very naive to me, that he still believed in the beast that took him down. Do you know what I'm saying? Harvey Weinstein still believed in the mainstream media apparatus. He still believed in Hollywood.

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He still believed in the power of his friends. The very same thing, the very same apparatus that took him down, he believed in. And he just didn't know what I was. So at this point, I guess I sort of gathered myself and I started pushing back more forcefully. It's like, okay, I got this. I'm actually now just got to be Candace Owens.

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And I got to start talking to him like he's talking to me because I'm in a business meeting. I didn't expect to be in a business meeting with somebody that's been in prison, has been sitting in prison for a year, at least a year. And there was one moment where I knew that I had gotten him, you know, like I had sort of defeated him, so to speak.

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I've actually done four hours of media today, so I have said a lot of words. Okay, so where do we begin with this? My husband, obviously you guys know, he is the entire brains behind the production and part of his job as my spouse is to keep me out of trouble. You know, make sure that I...

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If we were just kind of going back forth, riffraffing like New Yorkers negotiating a business deal, there was the moment where it clicked for him.

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And I think the moment that I wrangled it away from the mainstream people that had wanted to do this sit down with him, he said, and obviously I'm paraphrasing here, but he said about that person who was going to interview him, you know, I've been friends with her for years. She knows that I didn't do these things. I said, you know what, Harvey, you've got a lot of powerful friends.

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I'll admit that you've got a lot of powerful friends in Hollywood. And where are they all now? Have any of them used their platform to speak out? Has that individual used her platform to speak out and to say to the public that she thinks that you're innocent of the reasons that you've been convicted? Where are they now?

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And he did this sort of growl think that he does, which was like, genuinely, this is the sound effect. And I could tell that it hit. And he said back to me, they all turned their backs on me. And I said, yeah, well, I'm not your friend. And we obviously have nothing in common in terms of our politics, the causes that we support.

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But I can guarantee you that if I look into something and I believe that there is something there, I will stand up against the entire world to say something that I believe to be true. Okay. And I think that was the turning point. I think that is how we got to today. And I'm excited that at the end of this series, you guys will be able to hear a conversation between me and Harvey Weinstein.

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It will, I think, just explode the world. I want to remind you guys now something about Harvey, just a little bit about the background of these cases, which we will begin getting into next week. Because like I said, 107 women coming out and you probably have no idea why he is in prison. Harvey Weinstein was sentenced in 2020 to 23 years in total in New York alone. OK, 23 years in New York.

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20 of those years were for criminal sexual assault in the first degree. that was stemming from an accusation made from a production assistant who worked on Project Runway. Her name is Mimi Haley. I am telling you her name because she has come forward. So this is not, I'm not like, you know, unmasking a victim here. All of these people have come forward and spoken to the press and done media.

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File my taxes against my better instincts and also to make sure that if I sign a contract, I remember that I signed a contract and I don't just blurt out everything to you guys as I do because I just feel like I'm talking on the phone and I sometimes say way too much. So last week I was telling you I was really excited to announce next series, but there were a couple of legal hurdles.

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The other three years that he received in New York were for criminal, was for criminal rape in the third degree of a woman named Jessica Mann. Again, just to be clear, I'm telling the names of these individuals and we do not have to hide these names because they have already outed themselves proudly.

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Then in April of last year, so after four years spent in prison, the New York appellate courts reversed the decision of the lower courts and ordered a new trial. They claimed that the original trial had been prejudiced by witnesses who who were able to give testimony with claims that were unrelated to the charges at hand.

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In other words, they had allowed emotion and storytelling to flood the courtroom where in most circumstances they would say, this is not relevant. You can't say this here. You can't just like color the jury with flowery stories. This was a very big decision, which should not be ignored. And I will tell you, having looked into these cases, that was the right decision.

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I think, and I'm going out on a limb here, I think that as we start going through these cases, you are going to be like I was, jaw on the floor, shocked, and you will want to conduct your own research and you are going to wonder what the hell happens inside courtrooms. I want you guys to know his retrial begins on April 15th of this year.

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It's why I wanted to begin this series because I want everyone paying attention to the trial. And I have no doubt that you will want to pay attention this time around once I give you some basic facts about just some strange context that the media chose to leave out about some strange things that happened in those courtrooms. Okay.

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And the case in Los Angeles for which he was found guilty in December of 2022, he was sentenced to an additional 16 years in prison for the forcible rape of Eugenia Chernyshova. This is the wildest case. And I know there are Reddit beats of people who never got the attention that they deserved for following these cases step by step. The Internet sleuths.

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And I have to tell you, as I fell down the rabbit hole and looked at what you wrote, it is the craziest case that I have ever I've ever read in my life. I mean, this is it puts everything to bed. The Eugenia Turner show over one is insane. It rendered me speechless. And to be clear, there were multiple women who brought a trial against Harvey Weinstein. We started with 107. We got it dwindled now.

Candace

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All right, you guys, the internet is on fire. Today we jump back into our conclusive episode on the Becoming Brigitte series because I know there are so many lingering questions. Is Brigitte Macron the first lady of France, Emmanuel Macron's biological father? We're hearing that a lot. Where is the real Brigitte Trogno?

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Why does it feel like you've always had your hand held by people that are more powerful than you? We definitely know and have confirmed, like we did in the last episode, that he had his hand held through his career by David Rothschild. A family that is known and is on record as having practiced incest, okay? Why and how did Emmanuel Macron get so close to the Rothschilds?

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So close that his colleagues said, this dude didn't even know what Ibida meant, and yet he became the youngest managing partner. We understood that whatever it was, Emmanuel... David Rothschild was holding his hand. He just couldn't question the power that he was being given. And we would laugh at him in meetings because he knew nothing about finance.

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Why did David Rothschild see to it that Emanuel had his hand held? Vice is nice, but incest is best because it stays in the family. That is a direct quote from David Rothschild's cousin, Natalie Reams Rothschild. And in case you don't believe me, here was a clip of her saying that, by the way. Take a listen.

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She said it in English. She switched right over from French and said, this is what we say in our family. Vice is nice, but incest is best.

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Then there was a biography which was written by author Natalie Livingston, which was entitled The Women of Rothschild, which sort of revealed the maniacal desire that the Rothschild family had to maintain their fortune and their power in the world, a desire that was so maniacal that they practiced family incest. That is just undeniable. It is a fact, okay?

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And allegedly, they did this only until it was no longer socially acceptable, right? Right up until the late 19th century, you guys, right before we get into this trogno family. It's just amazing. Then they said, no more, no more. And what's interesting in this book is that Natalie Livingston documents that the reason for this is the original Rothschild, Mayor Amschel Rothschild's will.

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If you begin to map out the supporting cast of characters, that's why we took our time here, because you have to understand who is around these people. What is their network? How much power would it take if you did want to create identities or destroy identities? And we've arrived there. We have finally arrived there.

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She says, quote, it goes back to that will. In it, Mayor Amschel Rothschild said that nothing was more important than the family. And that meant at any cost. It was about preserving the unity of the bank and the integrity of the name. There's no question endogamy can't have been great. For example, there's an enormous amount of mental health issues that ran in the family.

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I can't believe there's not a correlation between endogamous matches and the issues of mental health. She then even discusses how that mentality within the family was so strong that they believe that any woman who stepped outside of the family in terms of who she married was cursed. Like you are cursed because you did not marry your cousin, brother, uncle, whatever it is.

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So of course your brain wanders and you begin to think naturally in this story about Why did David de Rothschild pluck up Macron? a guy who his colleagues said did not even know what EBITDA was, and yet David Rothschild moved to make him the youngest managing partner in the bank's history, okay? A bank's goal is to make profit. If you're a Rothschild, you care about making profit.

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Of course, if you care, especially in a maniacal sense, about making sure that your power is not lost in the world, the last thing you're gonna do is pluck up some obscure guy who knows nothing and pull him through the ranks. You would only step outside of that obvious goal of wanting the bank to make money if there was something more important to money. And that would be power, right?

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And you would only do that if nepotism was going on, in my view. You're like, I'm pulling you through the ranks because you are related to me. And what matters more to me is that this bank and whatever it is that you do maintains within the family. You give someone a job not because they're qualified in that sense, but because they are your family member, right?

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How and why did David the Rothschild get so close to the McCrone family of doctors and the Trogno family of chocolatiers, right? How? What I can tell you, and again, we are now being purely speculative, is that my instinct, my personal instinct has always been that if you were going to inbreed, a father-son relationship might actually be too close.

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I always felt that if it took place, we would be looking for an uncle. I feel like that's just like a standard story, like an uncle molesting a child feels like that's what my brain instantly does, what my brain instantly searches for.

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And it turns out, you guys, you are not going to believe me, but this pattern of similar names in every family and the family members also extends to the McCrone family. Remember, there are no photos known to date of Emmanuel Macron with his parents growing up. That is insane, okay? We do know that his father, the person that they tell us is his father, his name is, of course, Jean-Michel Macron.

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So first and foremost, just bringing this back up, let's take again a look at Emmanuel's family tree. And of course, we have learned, and I'm going to reinforce here, that he is not, at least doesn't appear that he was close to who are supposed to be his biological parents or his biological siblings, at least by any stretch of an understanding of his own autobiography, right?

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But there's another Jean-Michel that we haven't mentioned yet, and he's perhaps the most important one. Uncle Jean-Michel Nogue. Now let's add him to the Emanuel family tree so you guys can get a visual here, okay? So his dad is Jean-Michel. His mom is Francois Nogue. Well, Francois Nogue has a brother and had a brother. As you can see, he died in 2006. And his name was Jean-Michel Nogue.

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Okay, that was of interest to me. Again, I'm going down the rabbit hole. I just want to identify who is who. Okay, he is the brother of Dr. Frances Nogue, the one who helps transgendered individuals get new IDs. Okay, amazing. And also she said, as we pointed out, that to her, Brigitte is not a daughter-in-law. Huh? What is she to you? Okay, let's just keep going down this rabbit hole.

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Well, the funny thing is that Emmanuel Macron did not follow the normal course of Catholicism, okay? He was not baptized as a child. In fact, his parents are not religious. He chose himself to be baptized at the age of 12 while he was at the La Providence School. So two years before he met the love of his life, Brigitte, he decided to make a decision, which is, I mean, that's amazing, right?

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To say, I want to be baptized. And that's a weird thing. I think it's a remarkable thing. Well, not a weird thing, a remarkable thing for a 12-year-old to do without parental guidance. But what's interesting in that what we haven't mentioned before is that he chose his uncle, Jean-Michel, to be his godfather when he got baptized. So baptisms are not supposed to be just like an act of vanity.

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I know today they've become them. I'm just going to pick a godfather or godmother. And actually, I have no faith in God, no faith in religion. I just think it would be cool or whatever. That's kind of the modern interpretation. Now, this has significant spiritual meaning. This person is supposed to be selected to be the person to guide you spiritually throughout the rest of your life.

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If something were to happen to you, this is a person that your parents would entrust. If something were to happen to your parents, pardon, this is supposed to be an individual that your parents would entrust to guide you spiritually. for the rest of your life. Emmanuel Macron picked Jean-Michel Nogue, his uncle, okay? I'm going to read this directly from Xavier Poussard's book. He wrote, quote,

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Born on December 15th, 25th, pardon, 1940 in Neve and died on October 6th, 2006 in Amiens, Jean-Michel Nogue was not some general practitioner. He was a prominent member of the Board of the Faculty of Medicine of Amiens, as indicated by his obituary published by his colleagues in Le Courrier Picard. Remember, that's the newspaper in Amiens.

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He was also the chairman of Domus Medica, a non-trading real estate company, bringing together numerous of local healthcare professional organizations. Then he gets into, these are just friends for the council department, blah, blah, blah. So this was an important man. He's a huge figure. So I thought, surely this man, Uncle Jean-Michel, must be photographed somewhere.

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He didn't write about them. Just a couple of sentences, but he had so much to say about Brigitte's family and really only a lot to say in terms of his biological family about his grandmother. And I think most of us suspect, and I can say I most certainly do, that that mom and dad They're not actually his mom and dad.

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Maybe a photo of him and Emmanuel at the baptism day. Maybe at La Providence. I don't know. Maybe on Emmanuel Macron's wedding day to Brigitte. Surely we can find a photo of this guy within medical circles, okay? And you're not going to believe this, guys. And of course you're going to believe it.

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First and foremost, he died in 2006, the year before Emmanuel Macron got married to the love of his whole entire life, Brigitte. And regarding photos, of course, of course, Xavier Poussard attempted to secure them. He specifically went to the archives of the Faculty of Medicine where Jean-Michel, Uncle Jean-Michel, worked in Amiens and built up such a remarkable reputation for himself.

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And guess what? For whatever reason, he refused the request. So we don't have any photos of him. He died in 2006. And we don't have any photos from him from when he was alive and was clearly very active in Emmanuel's life. And I don't know why Emmanuel didn't dedicate an entire chapter to him, his uncle, who he was so close to spiritually, his leader. That's not something you just forget, right?

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The person who you believe is going to spiritually guide you throughout the rest of your life. You're attending a Catholic school. You would know the significance of such a meeting. Why did you pick him? This means nothing. It could mean nothing, guys. It could mean everything, okay?

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It just, again, more than anything, demonstrates the unbelievably, unnecessarily secretive nature that surrounds this family. People exist on paper. They don't exist in photos, and then they disappear, right? You have to imagine, by the way,

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that Uncle Jean-Michel would have been living in Amiens at the same time that Jean-Michel Trogno would have been living in Amiens throughout his marriage with the woman that he married. I'm totally blanking on her name. Who did Jean-Michel Trogno marry? Veronique. Veronique Drew. They were all just in this little close community. You'd have to imagine that, right? At the same time, but who knows?

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They both just kind of disappear into thin air. Anyways, this is just what happens when you look into things. They debunk nothing, by the way. If you ask, hey, could you just clarify that? Can we get a photo here? They instead wait for everyone who's investigating this to make a mistake, and then they sue people.

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Make a mistake while you're asking meaningful questions, and you are going to get sued if you live in France. Worse, you could be in prison. People have been imprisoned for looking into the story, arrested for looking into the story. Xavier is correct. It is meant to drive everyone crazy, jumping through a thousand rabbit holes.

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And speaking of rabbit holes, we should now discuss more thoroughly the little chubster, the little fat one, as Xavier calls him, recently presented by the media as proof that Jean-Michel exists. Listen, I want to be very clear. I have no doubt in my mind that that a Jean-Michel exists in Amiens. It seems like that's just everyone's name. Everybody Jean-Michel.

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So do not color me shocked when they say, we have found a Jean-Michel. I've already found about six of them. Now you're probably thinking, Candice, yeah, there's just too many Jean-Michels in every side of this family. I'm not quite sure what to trust.

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Well, we at least have to try to understand who this little chubby guy is and if he is indeed the same Jean-Michel that is pictured in the initial Trogno family photo. First, just want to throw to some of our sponsors. Jacked Up Fitness is one of them. With RFK Jr. 's historic confirmation, the Make America Healthy Again movement is finally here.

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That's how I just feel about the circumstance in terms of him describing, well, it was my grandmother that first taught me how to ride a bike. And I also find it to be suspicious. Again, this is our last episode, so we can start to theorize a bit. I feel incredibly suspicious about the fact that they're both doctors, that they were doctors, that dad's a pediatrician, and your mom, who we thought...

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From Pure Talk, America's wireless company, that's puretalk.com slash owens for details. All right, now let's jump back into this. Let's try to identify the little fat one, the little chubster, okay? Now, it's important that I keep reminding you that the public is being gaslit in a manner that would make even Sigmund Freud blush. He was the father of gaslighting, okay? Gaslit little kids.

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We'll get into that another day. It is so easy to to simply present photos of the current first lady throughout the 80s or photos of her with her brother, Jean-Michel, at any point throughout her entire life, okay? It's so easy. Don't let the media gaslight you and pretend this is crazy. It is the exact opposite. They are being crazy by not just putting all of this to rest.

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even if her very active and photographed teaching years, even if she found some throughout her very active and photographed teaching years of her and Jean-Michel together, I'd be like, okay, cool. There is only one massive family reunion photo that I could find since that family photo that was taken in the 1950s in Amiens. And this photo was actually published in 1991 in a German magazine.

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And I'm going to show it to you. Now, you can see on the right there, we have got Brigitte, now Brigitte Oziere. And missing from this photo is Jean-Michel. There's no Jean-Michel in this photo. And it was allegedly them all getting together to celebrate the 50th wedding anniversary of the father, Jean-Georges Trogno, and his wife, Simone.

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Like I said, a lot of people have theories, and I think today we can allow ourselves to roam and wonder these sorts of questions. I see that there are TikTokers that are getting their accounts hit and banned for discussing the matter. So welcome back to Becoming Brigitte. Thank you so much for having me. Next to the current French first lady, Brigitte Macron.

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So why would you not have all the siblings there that are alive? Doesn't that seem like quite the event to miss? We should very easily be able to say that the siblings are all here because you don't just miss your parents' 50th in 1991. We know that Jean-Michel has never died on paper, okay? He's never died on paper. He is still alive, according to Brigitte Macron.

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didn't understand why she was involved with the Social Security Office, actually was involved in helping transgendered people secure new identities. That doesn't make us feel good about that nebula that is around them. Then, of course, like I said, the curious case of his grandmother, who he affectionately calls Manette. We know that there are virtually no photos of her available.

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But what he does, what he has been doing, what his career is, nobody knows. Nobody knows. We are told in one book by one journalist who found it to be very suspicious when she went out to investigate this circumstance, Emmanuel Amizan, that she was told in Amiens that he just plays cards with his friends. I guess he's just a private guy who never left Amiens. That's what we're supposed to believe.

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He never left Amiens after his divorce from Veronique Drew. Now he's just kind of like retired and playing cards in a cafe with his friends. Okay, nobody really knows what he's been up to. So with questions that were then reaching a fever pitch amongst the French public when they realized that for whatever reason, this brother had been sort of left out of Brigitte's story.

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And now they're being told that, well, him and Brigitte were so close that at his wedding, she signed at his very private wedding to Veronique Drew. She signed on as the witness. And also at her wedding, he was the best man ever. People are going, what's going on here? Where is this person?

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Suddenly, the media had to start making up some answers, and the answer that they provided was, oh, a little chubby guy, as I discussed with Xavier Poussard. We are told that this guy is the extraordinarily private Jean-Michel, all grown up.

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Now, I can tell you right off the bat, in case you're wondering, the World Economic Forum Chinese software program says no, that is not the Jean Michel that we are looking for of a little boy in the photo. I can show you this match right here. The confidence is 54 percent. Now, Xavier does say that when it comes to glasses, just to be super clear with you guys.

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The technology doesn't want you to use two people that are wearing glasses or glasses in general. They do caution, can sometimes shade the face in a different way. But you can see here when we're showing you this, we're talking 52% confidence on the little chubby one next to him.

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Anyways, it would be easier, rather than having to use technology, if the Élysée Palace just came right out and said, yes, this is actually Jean-Michel Trogno, the one you've been looking for, the same one pictured in that 1953 family photo from Amiens. It's such an easy thing to say. That's not their thing. Clarity is not their thing. Ease is not their thing.

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Hush, hush, be quiet, threat, sue is their thing. So instead, just to be clear, in the initial... letter that they sent me, the 100-page letter of an opportunity, really, to say to me, do not publish your series. I am telling you that this Jean-Michel that you're looking for, that little boy on the left, is alive and well, and they could have just provided me photos of his missing years.

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They decided to squander away that opportunity by instead sending me screenshots of the little chupster at the inauguration of Emmanuel Macron. This is what they sent me. This is the exact language. What's more, Jean-Michel has recently appeared in public. He attended President Macron's inauguration in 2017 and 2022.

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During your June 12th, 2024 appearance on Piers Morgan Uncensored, you bet Piers Morgan $100,000 that he could not find a photo of Jean-Michel Trogno, implying that this would disprove your false claims. Below are publicly available images of Jean-Michel Trogno from videos of President Macron's 2017 and 2022 inauguration. You will see that not only is Jean-Michel present publicly,

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but also in the same frame as Brigitte Macron. The conclusive evidence that you have been seeking to debunk your claims. Okay, so this is amazing. Keep that up for a second, okay? It's amazing for a lot of reasons.

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It's amazing that the Elysee Palace, rather than giving us a document, a passport with things blacked out, but maybe just his name, a driver's license, anything that would be a form of ID, photos of them together growing up, because this is our problem, is sending me screenshots of an inauguration ceremony. with the guy in the background. Aha, it's debunked. Jean-Michel exists.

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the person who essentially raised Emmanuel Macron, again, according to his own autobiography, we are given just two photographs of. Why? Do we even actually know if that was her name? She was allegedly also a teacher. Why is it so hard to get photographs that demonstrate his childhood? Was her name even actually Jermaine Aribet Nogue? Did she have another name that she maybe potentially used?

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Like I said, 27 of them exists. I have no doubt that a Jean-Michel Trogno exists somewhere in Amiens. In fact, there's probably 20 of them. But of course, they mistook me for a fool, okay? I have already been made wise to their game, so to speak. Names and it's all about how you phrase the questions.

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It means nothing to tell me that a Jean-Michel exists, but it would mean everything if they simply spelled out an answer to a basic question about who they are claiming is Jean-Michel. So we went back to them with an exact question so there could have been no remaining confusion. We were clear. We will publish the truth. Here is the wording that we wrote in our letter back.

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Because the McCrones dispute the substance of Candace's reporting and opinions, we would like to provide them with the opportunity to present their stories and to clear up any rumors in the press. As such, we offer any date and time during the months of January, February, and March of 2025 for an interview between Candace and your clients.

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Candace, her producer and a videographer, will fly to Europe and arrange for a translator and studio in which the McCrones can answer questions. As you know, the first remedy for a defamation plaintiff is mitigation by using available opportunities to contradict the lie or or correct the error and thereby to minimize its adverse impact on reputation. We are providing such an opportunity.

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To facilitate this interview, we offer the following questions in advance. So we gave them this opportunity weeks before we began this series to answer a specific question about Jean-Michel at the inauguration. And here is the question we asked. I draw your attention to number three.

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is the man you showed at President Macron's inaugurations in 2017 and 2022, the same individual pictured on the far left in the Trogno family photograph from Amiens. Yeah, I'm awake to your game, okay? Don't tell me names. Tell me, is this the same person? And of course, you guys, we never heard back. They had the energy and the frustration to write the letter and say it's a lie.

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And we gave them a runway of two weeks to say, just give us a yes or no to this. And I promise you, okay, hand to God on my children's lives, if they had answered and said, yes, this is him, I would be reporting that information today because I'm not interested in jumping down this rabbit hole for the purpose of spinning a conspiracy theory, okay? There is something very wrong with this family.

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And perhaps the biggest thing that is wrong with this family is their refusal to answer basic questions while pretending that they're being victimized by the questions at the exact same time. It is bad faith acting. Plain and simple, bad faith acting.

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So with no response from them at all, suddenly them going mum on answering these very basic yes or no questions, we decided to instead turn to try to identify the guy with the inauguration footage. What is this screenshot? They gave us in their notations a YouTube link, hours of footage from the inauguration, and we decided to scrub through it.

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Okay, Eliezer Palace legal team, we will raise to the challenge and- look through this, maybe there is this familial vibe we can pick up on. First thing that I should note is that in both of these inaugurations, the Jean-Michel is not standing with the family for Macron's speeches, okay? Not at either inauguration.

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In the 2017 inauguration, here's a still, he is standing with a bunch of priests and OK, and when you watch the footage, the family is all walking together as they go down the line and say hi to people. And Laurent, that would be Brigitte's quote unquote daughter, speaks to him very briefly. They're all saying hi. It's like you've got to kind of walk through and say hi.

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I'm taking you guys through my own process here. Why are we just getting these two photos? Like I said, while in the past we have stuck strictly to the facts, today we are going to permit ourselves a little more wiggle room. I hold the suspicion that many of the people have come to, I think, the same exact understanding that it could be plausible that all of these people have multiple identities.

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The family is walking down and he's greeted two kisses on the cheek by Emmanuel Macron, but he's not standing with his family. Maybe he showed up late, right? Maybe he just showed up too late, got ushered in. Okay, fine. But that can't happen twice, right?

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Something that's also interesting is that Jean-Claude, his alleged big brother, he wasn't with, standing with, or anything, was also present on this inauguration day. And yet Jean-Claude, at the luncheon which followed this speech, was seated at a table with his siblings. He was seated, Jean-Claude was seated with Brigitte. Here is a photo of that luncheon, okay?

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Not Jean-Michel, not the person they allege is Jean-Michel. For whatever reason, he was not seated with his siblings. Now, that's in French, the bottom. It says this was published, by the way, in 2023.

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Interestingly enough, in Paris Match, and they were speaking about the Trogno family, and they declined to mention that Jean-Michel, as they're telling us now, was at this inauguration, not sitting down at this table. with his relatives, not sitting down with his brother, not sitting down with Brigitte.

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And what it says down there is at the table of Brigitte, her brother, Jean-Claude, and loved ones. okay, interesting. Maybe he needed some fresh air. Who knows? Maybe he didn't want to sit there. Maybe they've got a strange relationship.

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But let me tell you, it's going to get even stranger at the 2022 inauguration because scrubbing through the footage, I once again recognize that Jean-Michel is not standing anywhere near the family for the speech. Was he late again? I don't know, my friends. I'm going to show you this because even more awkward is the fact that when Emmanuel finishes his speech and does the walk...

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He goes over to the family section. Here he is. And he makes a concerted effort to kiss and hug everyone alongside Brigitte. You'll see Brigitte just a pace behind him, intentionally pausing to kiss and hug all the family members. You can see them. They start leaning in. They come out. Look at moi. Love you. Oh, let's take our time here. Tiffan looking so proud.

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Now he's not walking with anyone but Brigitte. I'm not exactly sure who that guy is, but what we're seeing here are nephews, cousins. We're able to confirm who all of these people are. This is clearly the family section. And once again, I want to be clear, it's both sides of the family that are standing in this section. It's not just the Macron's. It is also obviously Brigitte's family.

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And you're going to see that. I'm just going to let this play because it's important for you to recognize the differences here. This, by the way, in case you want to look this up yourself, is at the 43-minute mark of the inauguration. He starts going through his family. Now you're seeing Laurent, another child of Brigitte's, OK, kissing her kids.

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And now behind you have who is supposed to be his mother, biological mother, Dr. Frances Nogue, who spends her time helping transgendered individuals get new IDs. This is the family section. OK, there is no question the person they allege is Jean-Michel, for whatever reason, once again, does not want to stand with his family. OK. You fast forward. So that, again, is the 43-minute mark.

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Then you have to fast forward all the way up to the 51-minute mark to see him finally approaching Jean-Michel. And a couple of things I'm going to point out to you. Now, this is the screenshot where the legal team had the audacity to say, in the same frame, he's in the same photo as his sister Brigitte. What they left out was that Brigitte completely ignores him.

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I mean, completely does not say a word to the individual that is supposed to be her brother. Let's watch this together and watch how awkward Emmanuel Macron is with this individual. So you are seeing this if you're on audio. That's her brother. That's supposed to be Jean and Michelle. OK, they won't answer that for sure.

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If you've got somebody in the family that can destroy identities and create identities, why wouldn't you use that to your advantage? And I also think it's important to think about the time frame. It was a different world.

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But that's supposed to be who they're trying to make us believe is her brother. Nothing said. Emmanuel Brigitte just completely. Oh, there's the frame where they're trying to like, oh, she's right there with her brother. Says not a word. OK, you can go back and watch this and I'll make this up. Just walks right by. Who would do this to their brother on Inauguration Day? Emmanuel Macron now.

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I feel like if I was in the presence of my brother-in-law, I'd feel like I must go up to him first, right? I better go up to him first. And then Emmanuel's like, oh, okay, I have to say something a little friendly. Goodbye. And that's it. Okay, now let's pause that frame. Who's he standing with? Let's back up a little bit if you can, Mark. See that guy in the background?

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You want to know who he's standing with? David Rothschild. Jean-Michel is standing with David Rothschild. So just I'm truly amazed by this because Jean-Michel didn't have a career in baking and banking. Jean-Michel may have had a career in baking, but not banking. He's supposed to be from the family of chocolatiers. He's never left Amiens. We can't find any evidence of him having left Amiens.

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So what's he doing? What's his relation to David Rothschild? Why is he standing there? And please just make sense of it. Again, I'm just a regular old person. I got nothing but street smarts. But I got to tell you, my entire family is all the way down there. And I've decided not to sit with them, not to stand with them, but to be by myself with security and David Rothschild.

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Ladies and gentlemen, what the hell is going on? What's going on? Do you feel convinced that's a family member? Nope. Brigitte, once again, doesn't want Jean-Michel at her table. They were so close when she got married to Andre Lewis. Please, I need you to be the best man. So close when he got married to Veronique Drew.

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It must have been a massive family falling out that makes it so that even when he's at the inauguration, he doesn't stand with the family. Like, it just must have been an absolute disaster of a family falling out. And again, what do the Rothschilds have to do with Amiens? I just find this to be an incredible theme here. So what does this all mean? What does this all mean?

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You know, thinking about relatives that were growing up during World War I or World War II, we are talking about humans moving over national lines, nations changing, literally geographical changes that were happening, depending on who won wars or who lost wars, right? You had people who were hiding their true identities, sometimes out of a necessity, out of fear of persecution, right? Right.

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Well, what it means is that, unfortunately, guys, I can't answer these questions for you, and neither at this moment can Xavier Poussard. But what it means is that for the first time, rather than the entire world

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being told by the mainstream media, being gaslit by the mainstream media to believe that there was nothing here, and Candace was having postpartum psychosis by looking into the story, now millions and millions of people worldwide are going to look into this story. Millions have watched this series. Millions are emailing. Millions are investigating. And someone, somewhere, knows something.

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Someone somewhere saw something. Someone somewhere may be able to find a photo of Jean-Michel Nogue in the archives of the medical centers that he worked at throughout his illustrious career. Someone somewhere maybe recognizes which Jean-Michel that is, okay? Someone somewhere perhaps knows the answer to the mystery of what happened to Brigitte Trogno. Where is Brigitte Trogno?

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Was Brigitte Trogno given a different name? Did Brigitte Trogno die young after having children? I don't know the answers to these questions. It's taken us, taken Xavier Poussard, pardon, and people like Natasha Ray, almost a decade of their lives to get us to this point. Many of them giving up their freedoms.

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Natasha Ray has been in and out with a cancer diagnosis, being tortured by the trogno mafia, as I would describe it, because they act like a mafia when you start prying into this world. We will legally abuse you if you start asking these questions because that's what we'd rather do than answer anything. They have given up a decade of their lives to researching this.

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And now we have the ability to crack this wide open. And so if you have information about this family, maybe you're somebody sitting in Algeria and you're going, yeah, no, I remember him. Yeah. What goes on in Algeria? At this time, maybe you went to school with Jean-Michel Trogno. Maybe you are in the French military and you see something strange about access to his files because there is a file.

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There is a military file that is being locked down as it pertains to Jean-Michel Trogno. Again, something that is supposed to be made available to the public that they won't make available. And they just want to gaslight us about that. He's just so private. So private, but he does go to the inauguration, but so private, he doesn't want to stand with the family or be involved with them.

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He'd rather stand with David DeRothschild. Help me out, guys. You have information, please send it to info at candiceowens.com. It is my instinct. Yes, I agree with those of you that are commenting right now that we are looking potentially at incest.

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That is what in my gut feels it has to be a secret so big that it would make them react in this way because it is a type of violence to treat journalists like this. It is a kind of emotional violence to do these sorts of things and they do it as though They know that advice is nice, but incest is best and things should be kept within the family.

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It's a whole another rabbit hole to jump down for parents to understand what is happening to children and vaccines. and to learn more about the medical mafia and people that are waking up to the fact that there is a medical mafia.

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All right, guys, getting into some of your questions that are coming in right now, which I hope that I'm equipped to answer. This person just got my Becoming Brigitte book in today. I can't wait to dive in. Thank you and your team for all of the great work that you guys do. Honestly, guys, this series podcast form is one fraction of the work that Xavier Pouzard has done and has put into his book.

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Way more pedo criminals that I could have brought up. and just thought, okay, we want to keep this series moving. You got to do that deep dive. I mean, even today, me telling you about the uncle, we hadn't even gotten to that point. And yeah, to see the success of this book, people that are already asking for rights to it in different languages.

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I'm getting emails on behalf of Xavier that are coming in. I'm just so happy for him because like I said, his family, what a sacrifice. You just don't see journalists like that anymore who are willing to give up and fundamentally alter their lives to tell a truth and to stand up against True power, true systemic power and abuse.

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And it's kind of strange that the public was sold this story about the trognoz without somebody just adding that actually we made up this guy's name. Let's get into that Trogno family, right? The Brigitte Trogno, where did that family come from before they settled in Amiens and became sort of like a mafia? Because that's what it looks like to me.

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Nadia is giving us tons of vomit emojis just speaking about the topic of incest. We are right there with you. And it is unbelievable to hear someone just say that on stage and admit that freely. Ali says, Candice, the media poisoned my mind against you for so long. I am truly sorry, but I am here now and staying because you are one of the most elegant and inspirational people I've ever heard.

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Thank you for always speaking truth. Totally forgiven. I know so many people have heard lies about me last year. When I began looking into this story, it seems to be. One of the points where everything turned around and they just started trying to tell people that I was literally Adolf Hitler. Like, that is the storyline.

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A couple of weeks ago, right before we started this story, they then came out and tried to convince the public that I was inspiring school shootings. I mean, it has been insane. insane to see what the media will do to someone when they inch closer to a truth. And I think all of us wake up at a different moment and begin to question our relationship with the media.

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Mine's happened a little earlier than yours, Ali, but I had that moment too. I believed everything that I read because it almost, you'd be crazy to think that the media is actually protecting evil and attacking good. But that is the circumstance that we find ourselves in today. We recognize that. And it's a to admit that you are wrong. Not a lot of people have the humility.

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They just go, I've said this for years, so I have to just keep saying a thing. So welcome. I'm happy to have you here. Waves just writes, you're amazing. Thank you guys for these compliments. I need them today. I was so tired today. You have these days when you're pregnant where you're just like, I just can't do it. And I was having that kind of a morning and now I feel great and amazing.

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Mikkel writes, Friday guesses, fake moon landing, Manson murders, F scene, MLK. Okay, so I have announced that Tomorrow, I will be announcing my next series, and it's a big one. We're not going to start it tomorrow, but I'm going to announce it tomorrow, so you're not going to want to miss Friday's episode.

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And she's guessing Moon Landing, Manson Murders, Epstein, MLK, JFK, Obama's birth certificate. Love you so much. I love all of those guesses. You will have to wait and see. Allison just wrote that Allison actually just donated to the show. So just thank you for that, Allison. We see that coming through. Keeley writes, hi, Candace. Thanks for your incredible journalism.

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During the interview, Xavier said Mimi had a falling out with the fam. Has no one spoken to her since? I feel... though shady, that she may have the info that we need. She is currently going through trial. She's being potentially going to be convicted. It had a huge scandal. I remember reading about it vaguely, but it involves like Nicholas Sarkozy.

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It's insane what she was doing to get blackmail just right up her alley. You know what I mean? And so you can look into that. If you actually just look up Nimi Marchand, you can follow that case. I don't have an update for you right off the top of of my head, but she is in it.

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And yes, of course, they would have necessarily had to have distanced themselves as they are still pretending that everyone around them is a criminal. It's just not them, which is pointedly ridiculous. Brian writes, wow, there it is. The gene pool is so mixed and confused in both the Trogno and Macron families that they are difficult to individually identify. And yes, that is the point, I believe.

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KH writes, Macron was live on TikTok earlier. All I saw in the comments was your name over and over. Fantastic. That is fantastic. I cannot wait to go find that. He is in a PR crisis trying to smile his way through it. It's not going to work. This scandal is now officially too big. And in my opinion, Emmanuel Macron needs to step down from office.

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It looks like the Trogno family operates like a mafia to this day. They're supposed to be a family of chocolatiers. They have this supposed to be the sweet origin story. And this is actually the most recent publication discussing their family story that I could find in the local newspaper in Amiens. This was published in 1990. I think it was 1991. It might be 1993.

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because you have lied repeatedly to the French people. You have harassed journalists. You are a monster, and not a monster of your own doing. You were targeted when you were a child, and a part of me feels bad for you, but you are damaged goods, and what you have done is unforgivable as a leader of a country. What you are doing is unforgivable. And no one takes you seriously anymore.

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He's actually doing America soon. And it's just ridiculous to pretend that he has any power. You know, whatever shadow is behind you, fly it over so they can have a conversation with President Trump. We know that you were created. You are not real. You have no thoughts of your own. You are the Manchurian candidate and you have absolutely no power.

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And that's why I didn't fear you when you sent a letter because you are an absolute nobody in my book. And what I sense is your fear of being seen. And what terrifies me is that people described you, your own people described you as almost psychopathic during COVID, like you were enjoying harming people.

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And I wonder how much your childhood being groomed by the person that you are married to impacted that. Lastly, Eddie writes, I found an interview of Brigitte talking and it sounds exactly like the mystery trans person in your previous video. You are batting 1000 Candace. It is not me. It is the French people. I am blessed that Xavier brought this to me and I am blessed that I.

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have the courage to look at something and be maimed and caricatured and called crazy by the media. And it actually only commits me further to that cause because I know what the media is. And I feel grateful. I genuinely feel honored that this audience has grown, that you guys trust me to bring you stories that might sound crazy in the beginning.

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Trust me, tomorrow's is going to sound crazy in the beginning. But to trust me to then unfold it for you. And at our core, what all of these stories have in common is that you will recognize the media for what it is. It is an evil entity that is not protecting the people. It is the exact opposite. It is protecting the globalist power structure. And so thank you guys for trusting me with that.

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Obviously, we will be here tomorrow. Please head to CandaceOwens.com and support our independence. And we'll see you then.

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And this was to announce the birth of another Trogno family member. And it's showing you the lineage of the family fathers of the chocolatiers, right? So at first you have an 1852 John Baptiste. He was leading the shop. Then you have John. Then you have John. Then you have Jean-Claude. Then you have Jean-Alexander.

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And I'm showing you this because I want you to understand all of the men in the Trogno family have the same first name, Jean Trogno. That is significant. It is significant also because it complicates matters, okay? So if they say, John Trogno is alive and well, you're not really getting anything there, right? Is it cousin, brother, uncle, nephew?

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Every male in the Trogno family has the name John Trogno. And most of them, by the way, to be clear, have more than one middle name, okay? So first and foremost, just going back to that publication, if we can get that back up, that first original Trogno, Jean-Baptiste, yeah, that was a lie. His name wasn't actually Jean-Baptiste.

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The original Jean that settled in Amiens and opened this chocolatier shop, his real name was actually Marc-Étienne-Xavier Trogno. So that's just a part of the legacy that they just like made up. And I'm not sure what the reason or the purpose of that lie is. Again, we know for a fact his name was Mark Etienne. We were able to secure the birth certificate. This is not disputed amongst genealogists.

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So it's just the question of why even start with a small lie about your family's legacy. Is it because you wanted to show lineage? Or was a conscious decision made for one reason or another that's unbeknownst to the public to tell that lie? Is it really about just making things more confusing? Did you make a decision that we're going to call everybody in the family Jean?

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For what reason would that be? Why would you make that decision? Even, by the way, to be clear... The women in the family also have male middle names. So we're going to bring up that family photo again, the now infamous family photo. We are told, by the way, that that's Brigitte in her mother's lap. It looks nothing like Brigitte, but we're just going to go with that.

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This photo, again, to remind you, was introduced to the public by Mimi Marchand, who we do not trust to save our lives. But you can see Brigitte's middle name, her full name is actually Brigitte Marie Claude Trognoe. Okay, Brigitte Marie Claude Trogno, which is interesting, by the way, to be clear, because her dad, as you can see, doesn't have Claude in his name.

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So she's taking on Claude Trogno for what reason? Her dad is John George Trogno. He does have a son, as you can see right above there in this photo, a son who has Marie in his name as well. His name is John Claude Marie Joseph Trogno. That's a lot of names. You don't typically see this in families outside of the aristocracy. Right.

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Outside of the aristocracy where you'll see 20 names going back to show their lineage. Jean-Claude Marie Joseph Brigitte Claude Trogno. And then, of course, we have our our our guy Jean-Michel Henry Trogno to the far left. And then just to add more confusion, the people in the family. seem to marry people that have the same names as their siblings, okay?

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So this is not too relevant for you to remember. You can keep that photo up because I just want to keep going through it. But Monique Trogno, there on the right, she married someone with the same first name as her brother. So she married someone named Jean-Claude, okay? A bit confusing. And then Jean-Claude... the brother up top there, married someone with the same name as his sister, Brigitte.

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He married someone named Brigitte Poisson. So she then became Brigitte Trogno. It's just very convenient and very confusing. And this is why you can just sort of go down this rabbit hole. And it makes you wonder, as I have wondered, is this confusion intentional?

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Because if you have all these names and everyone's kind of got the same name, my brain just goes, it would make it very easy for you to move throughout the family and share identifications, right? To go in and say, I just want an ID that says Claude Joseph. No, no, no, that is my name. I have a lot of names, but I'm actually Claude Joseph. And so maybe now I'm going as Claude Joseph.

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Again, I'm speculating here, but... To be clear, this image in general is not one that I'm comfortable with because, as I mentioned, we do not trust Best Image because we do not trust Mimi Marchand.

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And the first time that this image was ever presented to the public, it was given to the public to the documentary filmmaker who said that she felt like she was interviewing with the police when she was trying. Her name was Virginie Lindhart. Remember her? She did this documentary, Brigitte Macron, a French novel. And she said she had never been questioned like that.

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She was only allowed to speak to certain people, given very few photos. And those photos all had to go through Mimi Marchand's best image. So she's handing out these images. And her history, Mimi Marchand's, of being accused of forgery and extortion, I'm starting to wonder what exactly best image specializes in. That they had the exclusive on any photos from Brigitte's past and only produced a few.

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Do they specialize in Photoshop? No. Because there's one thing that some people on the internet have caught on, a couple of things really that jump out to me as odd about this photo. First and foremost, that girl on the far right, Monique Trogno, okay? Look at her hands. That looks weird. What's going on there? It looks like a lot of fingers, maybe potentially too many fingers.

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Looks like six fingers, three of them of which are nubs. I mean, maybe she was throwing gang signs. Maybe she's in a gang. I don't know, but that looks very weird to me. And the one thing that I do know about Photoshop is that people say it is incredibly hard to Photoshop hands. That's usually where people get caught Photoshopping, when you see all these scandals.

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We knew Kim Kardashian Photoshopped it because of her hands. She's missing a hand. She's missing a finger. I don't know why that is. Again, I don't work in that space, but it is incredibly hard to Photoshop hands and fingers. And then there's Monique's face in general.

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And they were just kind of jolted into the understanding that something was very wrong. Like, yes, you can be an almost identical twin with your brother who you're supposed to have like, you know, seven years, seven or eight years apart from. But that doesn't seem to be the case. The photographic evidence became instantly, I think, undeniable for a lot of people.

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As soon as I saw it, after going through so much of Brigitte's history, I realized, and we can pull that photo up again, that Monique just looked familiar to me. I felt like I had seen that face before. I'm being told this is an older sister. But to be honest, she looks a lot like this photo. Okay, I was like, this looks like this photo looks very, very similar.

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These are supposed to be two different people. It looks like, I don't know, how could this be two different people? And if you're wondering what that photo is on the left, that's a photo of Brigitte. Apparently, they dug up France 3, came across an old photo from 1989 of Brigitte, Brigitte Osierre. So this is Brigitte after marriage, Brigitte in the teacher phase.

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And I just find that that face is just so familiar. But hey, siblings are familiar, right? Not a big deal. You can look exactly like your sister. And so I just said to myself, okay, well, let me just see some current pictures of Monique. Maybe they still look like dead ringers for one another. And they're both alive today. So this shouldn't be hard to find photos of Monique.

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And actually, it was really hard to find photos of Monique, despite marrying a billionaire from Amiens, now a billionaire automobile family. Monique Trogno marries this guy, again, not important for you to remember, named Jean-Claude Guidet, who owns like the largest automobile billionaire company in France. She just never took photos throughout her life besides that one.

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Can't find a wedding photo, nothing. Xavier Poussard had warned me because I was texting him going, how is this possible? I mean, come on. How do you marry a billionaire? Marry someone who comes and there's just no photos of you. And there's like one photo of her husband. I'm like, this can't be a thing. I understand privacy, but this is not a thing.

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And Xavier warned me, don't start down the rabbit holes. Because nothing makes sense. As soon as you start looking at the story, you realize nothing makes sense. And that's exactly what they want, essentially, to drive you crazy, to confirm what should be very basic things. And for whatever reason, it's virtually impossible to do so.

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Despite the big names of these families, despite their proximity to power, it is virtually impossible to confirm anything. So I just went ahead and I left it alone. But there's one thing that I find that makes entirely no sense. And it's very strange. And I would very much like to invite the public to jump in on this incredible mystery.

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OK, so many of you had suspected that these families might all be related. Are the Osiers, the Trogdos, and the Macrons all just from the same family? Is there a chance that Brigitte Macron, some of you asked, is actually the father of Emmanuel Macron? Now, to be clear, I had never made that statement because I wanted to keep this series factual.

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and to pull away from my gut and to be like Xavier and to only go with the documents and the things that we could confirm. But there is obviously a lot going on here, a lot of evidence which suggests and points to the conclusion that the secret seems to be bigger than just having a transgendered wife, right?

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And so now we have just a lot of people that are going backwards and diving in from the very beginning, as they should. I am recommending do not start at that interview and then jump into this episode. We have covered so much. One can only come to understand how such a potential identity swap could be feasible here.

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I mean, think back to the moments that we went over here of President Emmanuel Macron looking to his wife Brigitte, right? for answers, basic answers about the biological, biographical background of his family. Remember that scene we told you about when he was speaking to a politician and the politician was like, yo, your sister lives near here. Where does she live?

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And Emmanuel freezes up and looks to Brigitte's Why don't you know where your sister lives, Emmanuel? What's going on here? Why does it feel like there is this relationship where maybe you and Brigitte, Brigitte's your, I don't know, more than a wife for sure, to be sure. Why does it feel like Brigitte is sort of holding your hand?

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All right, you guys, happy Monday. Obviously, the Super Bowl was last night. Unsurprisingly, Taylor Swift did not attend with Blake Lively, but she did get booed, and that was a surprise. That has got to signify a new era for her. I totally blame Ryan Reynolds. I'm going to tell you why. Also, speaking of the Deadpool devil, you are not going to believe this, but...

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shit-hetery, pardon my language, with his esoteric, hot yoga, chakra-balancing nonsense and his little top knot and all that stuff. So we plant this seed early that he's a little fake spiritual, but he also may be the kind of piece of SHIT. It just allows us to not feel too bad about taking his life brutally. End quote. is going on. We created this character so that I could kill him.

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We created this character and we were planning the seats early that you shouldn't like this character. So at the end, we could overkill him. We showed you like I think I showed you on my actually on my Instagram was you couldn't show you like how many times he shot and killed an ice pool.

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And it's funny because my editor said to me when I watched the movie, it was weird because an ice pool seemed nice. And then there was a scene of him just killing him. And there's no way to look at this other than to recognize that Ryan was living out his fantasy of killing Justin Baldoni via the movie Deadpool. And And there is like no way to normalize that or to excuse that.

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It was it was he was caught on a podcast saying something about ice spice that she then became friends with ice spice. because she was like, I cannot have this, and she left Matt Healy. Then, of course, notoriously, the Kanye West debacle over the lyric. They were quote-unquote best friends. They had a phone call discussing the lyric. The public heard the lyric, freaked out, didn't like the lyric.

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He was living out a fantasy of killing Justin Baldoni. Like that's the reality, okay? He wrote about this down to like his hair. Somehow Justin Baldoni was driving him insane. He talks about everything Justin Baldoni speaks about on his Instagram. I told you when I crawled through it. I mean, there's just no...

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Question that this character that he created late in the day, which we went through the timeline, he added like tacked this all of these scenes on late in the day when principal filming the photography party was already over. And then he's like, let's get back, get the gang back together so I can fantasize about murdering Justin Baldoni. Very, very strange. Makes me uncomfortable.

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Kind of reminds me of like, for people that were watching Deadpool, it's kind of like when I was 13 and you're listening to Eminem and you're like, yeah, Slim Shady, it's amazing. He's going to kill Kim. He's going to kill Kim. He's going to kill Kim. And then you get older and you're like, Is Kim OK? Can somebody check on Kim? He's bringing out blowout dolls and fantasizing about killing his ex.

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Like, I don't know, maybe maybe that makes you bop your head when you're 13. When you get older, you're like, I don't think Slim Shady's got it all going on up there upstairs. This is not OK. We can't just call it artwork while we fantasize about murdering people. And I'm very uncomfortable by it.

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By the way, not to make you even angrier, but obviously with the whole hair and making nice pool have long hair, that's been like a major feature. And that's why he brings it up in this book. And I'm getting the book because there could be more gems in there. So I just that's just the first thing that we have. I want to go through dog pool. I want to I want to go through everything.

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But you should know that Justin Baldoni's phase of having really long hair, which deeply upset Ryan on some sort of a spiritual level, was not something that he grew out in an effort to reinforce a stereotype. Like, yes, my cousin does like a little bit of kombucha. I actually don't know if he does. I feel like he does. And I do think that he is a stereotype in many of those ways.

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But his hair, he actually grew out to donate to children with cancer. He documented that. He was growing it out because he wanted... children with cancer. You have to get it to a certain length if you do that. And then he chopped it off in April of 2023, right before they began or the same month they began principal photography on It Ends With Us. And his hair had obviously gotten long enough.

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So here is a video of him explaining to his kids that this is going to children who have cancer, just in case you needed more of an excuse to really strongly dislike Ryan Reynolds.

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So there you have it. So I have this theory because what what Ryan does is so by the book, narcissistic abuse. It's not that it's unusual for Deadpool to have a nice pool. The character existed. He then turned the nice pool character into Justin Baldoni and turned it into basically however he felt his insecurities about dog pool being Blake Lively.

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That was made very clear once we were able to kind of go through his text messages and get a sense of the situation. Right. And I've realized that his issue is control. We've talked about this. And the one thing that will really drive somebody who exhibits this sort of behavior crazy is feeling like control has been removed from you.

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Taylor Swift suddenly was not okay with any part, or she didn't mention the phone call, but we know... It wasn't good for her brand anymore, and she moved on. And now we have Blake Lively, and they've been friends for 10 years. And I am telling you, I knew leading up to the Super Bowl, godmother or not a godmother, she will throw the godbabies out with the bathwater. That's just a fact, okay?

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And so I had said to you guys last week that there's an element of this that I'm convinced has to do with Scarlett Johansson, right? Call me crazy, but I got to run this by you, okay? I believe that to Ryan Reynolds, she is the one that got away. I am sorry. She is glowing. She is beautiful. way stronger career than Blake Lively.

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Uh, she's always been an A-list actress and she saw the signs early and got out of that relationship and never really spoke about things, but came very close to saying that Ryan Reynolds was a bit controlling. And I mentioned to you guys how even his friendship with Hugh Jackman is based off of getting back at Scarlett Johansson because she starred in a huge blockbuster success.

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And at some point in their marriage, Hugh Jackman said something to Ryan Reynolds like he was like a little punk, like better be good to my little sister kind of a thing. And Ryan never left Ryan. He was angry about Hugh Jackman. And so he pretended that they had this like rivalry. But deep down, Ryan was serious.

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But then it developed into a bromance and sort of this way to say, I don't know what to Blake Lively, like, actually, I'm collecting this person in your life. And I just found it to be very strange that We then learn that Ryan Reynolds is going through this exhaustive effort to get Wayfarer Studios blackballed from Hollywood at the same time that it is like announced.

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We learned this, obviously, that Scarlett Johansson is having her directorial debut in Hollywood. The Eleanor film, I'm forgetting the name of it. It's like I, Eleanor, I don't know why. Eleanor the Great. And this was going to be the first time. And so she was doing she was working with Justin Baldoni and Wayfarer Studios and her directorial debut.

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And all of a sudden he's like fighting for Blake Lively to like become the director of Justin Baldoni's movie. There's something about that that feels competitive to me. So then I was thinking about this, OK?

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And another thing that struck me was it made me go back to Brandon Sklenar and that Brandon Sklenar gave an interview where he said, like, he didn't understand essentially why Blake and Ryan were being so nice to him. OK, so. And I was like, what was his involvement?

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I think genuinely an element of this narcissistic abuse is that he loved bomb's people and they don't realize that they're all a part of like Ryan's web of trying to get back at somebody else. Like, I think they knew their end goal was to take over this movie. And so they loved bomb. The Young Lily, Lily Bloom, which was Isabel Ferrer.

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They love bombed Brandon Sklenar with like, oh, we're just going to be the most amazing couple. We're going to take you to we're going to take you to these Wrexham games. And oh, they love bombed Liz Plank. Oh, you would be perfect for my documentary that we're doing on soccer. I don't know why you would be perfect, but you would. You are exactly who we're looking for.

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So they find people in the orbit and they bring them in essentially with soccer. Surrounding them with A-listers and, you know, surrounding them with money or whatever it is that that person wants. I think Brandon Sklenar at this time, interestingly, I'm not suggesting anything, but he did sign a deal with WME. Prior to he was not with one of the big wigs. He wasn't with WME or CAA.

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And then all of a sudden he gets a deal with WME. And so listen to Brandon Sklenar on the red carpet when a reporter asks him during premiere night about how, you know, Blake and Ryan have taken a liking to him. Take a listen.

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Now, I thought she was going to attend with Kansas City Wags, the wives and the girlfriends, and maybe Jason Kelsey's wife, but she didn't do that. She wound up attending again with iSpice, who she went to the Super Bowl with last year. The Haim or Haim sisters. I still have no idea who they are, but she hangs out with them a lot. I'm aging out. I don't need to know who everybody is in culture.

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Now that we know what they were doing behind the scenes to hear him give this sort of raving review is quite strange. But again, their target is Justin Baldoni. So they have to be amazing to everybody else. So then I started looking at like who else was being love bombed during this time. We've got Liz Plank. We've got Brandon Sklenar. We've got Bloom, young, young Lily Bloom, Isabel Ferrer.

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And I realized that if you go through his like Instagram, Ryan Reynolds Instagram, there's so much Channing Tatum. out of nowhere. We got Channing Tatum everywhere. And somebody said that Channing Tatum played essentially a cameo as Gambit in the Deadpool movie. So I'm like, that's interesting.

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And it didn't just stop at him playing a character in Deadpool, but he also then took him to Wrexham and included him into a commercial. Watch this. We're going to give you seven seconds of this Wrexham ad before we get hit by YouTube for stealing music. Take a listen.

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So he dances in this ad and whatever. Again, weird crossover events. Like I know that they have both worked with Marvel, but like they didn't have this like bromance. This is also during the Justin Baldoni crazy time. So I started wondering, what's the connection here? What am I missing here about Channing Tatum? And it's got to be something about power. It's got to be about control.

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It's got to be about narcissistic abuse. And then this caught my eye. Very interestingly. Okay. Scarlett Johansson was co-starring, okay, as a love interest alongside Channing Tatum at this time as well. So she had a couple of things going for her. She's got tons going for her, but you know what I'm saying.

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She had her upcoming directorial debut, which was slated for 2023 for her to start filming in Eleanor the Great with Wayfarer Studios. They start targeting Wayfarer Studios and he wants to make her director. She also was filming with Channing Tatum as his love interest in a movie called Fly Me to the Moon, okay?

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And all of a sudden, Channing Tatum is now being announced in 2024 after principal photography has already begun for Deadpool that Ryan is bringing him in as Gambit just for a cambio. And people thought, by the way, in the Marvel Universe world, this was amazing, an amazing act of kindness because for years...

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For years, there has been there's this whole long story about how Channing Tatum has wanted to play Gambit since he was a child. It was his lifelong dream. He came really close to it. And then like Marvel sold to Disney and they dropped him. So he wasn't going to be the lead of the movie. And then all of a sudden, here we go.

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Good guy Ryan Reynolds jumps up to the plate when he's spending time with his ex-wife and is like, I'm going to give you a cameo here. But I didn't want to jump to conclusions. I was like, maybe this really was just extraordinary timing. Maybe it wasn't even Ryan Reynolds who cast Channing Tatum and Deadpool and Wolverine. It was some other executive.

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And it really was just this organic thing that happened and they became friends. But I was like, let me dig, because I feel like specifically he picked Channing Tatum and made this happen, made this cameo happen. And then I found it Channing Tatum on Jimmy Fallon saying, yeah, thank you to this wonderful human being, Ryan Reynolds. Take a listen.

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I just know that she is friends with them. And that was that was her entry into the arena. But the big news that no one expected was that she got booed. Taylor Swift got booed. I don't think I have ever seen a clip anywhere ever since the dawn of her career of her getting booed. So let's watch that. OK, first off, shout out to Ice Spice.

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It's just incredible. It was him. I want this for you, Brandon Sklenar. I want this for you, Channing Tatum. I want this for you, Isabel Ferrer. Like, no, it is about Ryan. And he's always trying to get back at someone else. And in that case, I am telling you, it was not about you, Channing Tatum. I am sorry. It was about Scarlett Johansson.

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He was squeezing her because he has never seen himself as successful as her. And she's the one that walked away. I think she saw the signs earlier that he's a narcissistic abuser. So anyways, all of that's insane. I had to give you guys an update on that. I know I just like oscillate between becoming Brigitte. I'm like in France.

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Again, that's TWC.health slash Candace and you can use promo code Candace today. All right. Got to get into this like weird debate. We're in a weird time. Everything is a new era. We're just in a new era. I don't know what era it is. That's, you know, Taylor Swift is getting booed.

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I don't know what era it is that I'm finding myself agreeing with people on the left about a lot of things and disagreeing with some people on the right about some things. But this Tucker Carlson versus Piers Morgan clip really gets down to, I think we're just choosing different realities. Something's splintering in the universe.

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We're all just splintering and going, okay, I either see things like this or I see things like that. And I've never heard something that is so non-controversial to state that is being received so controversially. And I have a relationship with Piers Morgan, as in like I've done his show, he's done mine.

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And I actually want to say at the jump of this, no insult to Piers Morgan here, because I think just by hosting both sides of the debate on Gaza and Israel, he has done a tremendous service on his show. But this clip is alarming, OK? Find the thing that Tucker Carlson says here that's wrong. OK, I'll check the chat. Maybe it's crazy. Maybe I just can't hear it right. Take a listen.

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His feelings surrounding the creation of the Mr. Nicepool character, a.k.a. Justin Baldoni, were captured and recorded in a book. He spoke about why he created this character. And it's extremely dark. It is truly dark to read this. You're not going to believe it. Also, Tucker Carlson said something that absolutely should not have offended anyone. But it did. So we're going to talk about that.

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Yeah. So I don't know how, but this clip gets taken out and it starts going viral. And people tend to have a perspective that it's not potentially even just asking the question, he says, is it evil during wartime to target innocent? Even asking that question to me, I can't wrap my brain around it. I can't wrap my brain around it.

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the level of propaganda that is trying to marry America to the state of Israel in so much that they are now trying to convince us that bombing innocent civilians isn't always the wrong thing to do. And it really, like I said previously, is a stark contrast to the upbringing that we had when we learned that these sorts of things were patently wrong.

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I like this look on her a lot better than the look that she had last year. She looks a lot better. Never want to be a hater. Secondly, you can see she's quite startled by this. A lot of people enjoyed it. I think no matter what, getting booed in a stadium, it just doesn't feel good. You know, a little piece of me does feel very bad because it's super embarrassing.

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It's the entire reason why we had to create the why we why we have the ICC is to make sure situations like this can't happen. And so I was so shocked. And I want to be clear when we talk about on both sides of this, we talk about innocent hostages or you talk about innocent children. Any harm being brought to either side is sad and it's wrong.

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But it is amazing that we've spent two years being gaslit, watching children being blown up, watching women being blown up, watching kids crying, watching kids starving. And all of a sudden, Western media is in a full like launch, propagandist launch of Because a hostage was released and the hostage, right, like without question, was clearly starved, has lost a ton of weight.

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And there's headlines everywhere about it. Everybody's speaking about it. It's like this is the reason like why we have to understand that we have to get involved. Trump came out and said he looks like a Holocaust victim. OK.

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And I'm just wondering where was everybody's voices last year when everyone from UNICEF to every organization in the world that I can think of said the children in Gaza are being starved. We saw the images of these children being starved and crying. And everyone was quiet. Nobody cared.

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OK, so I'm just going to show you this CNN report that came out last year that for whatever reason didn't generate the same amount of outrage. Take a listen.

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The entire world, it felt like the entire world looked away. The Western media looked away when these kids were starving to death. And now all of a sudden we get back one hostage which was starving in an area in which we knew that food wasn't going into. And we were gaslit and we were told that noticing that was anti-Semitism, which is shocking because Palestinians are Semitic.

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And now all of a sudden we get one hostage that is in bad condition, which is not OK. I want to be very clear. My perception of that, any person being starved who has nothing to do, like Tucker said, innocent people, especially women and children, though. And it is like all they want to talk about. It's like they're finally we've got it. And so this just to be clear to people is.

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Like I said, no matter how famous or how rich you are or how how secure you are getting booed like that in a stadium is it's embarrassing. It just is. And I think it's leading to a lot of questions rather than people debating or being like, I'm pro Taylor, anti Taylor. It's a cultural moment that should be discussed, which is why, why was Taylor Swift booed? She's coming off of her era's tour.

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is why people see Israel as an ethnic supremacist state. Because what you signal to people over and over again is that if an Israeli is starved, if an Israeli is killed, then it's problematic. But if tens of thousands of children are murdered, or if an entire population is being starved, that's just the cost of war. OK, that's not good messaging.

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And there is no amount of social engineering and propaganda that is going to convince me that what happened to the Gazan children is OK. So I've chosen the reality wherever Tucker Carlson is, where we can just plainly call things evil.

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And we get to say that there's something deeply wrong with our media for trying to turn us into supremacists and for recognizing that what's happening over there is an evil as we talk about These children, like they're just like real estate, like they're a real estate deal. There's no amount of propaganda that's going to transform that.

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And so this, by the way, is perfect time to tell you an amazing update for those of you that knew I'm going on tour in New Zealand and I'm going on tour in Australia. Well, the bad news is that we have to bump that tour to the fall. But the good news is the reason why. So as you guys knew.

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Australia last year, I had a ton of groups, the ADL, everyone coming after me for saying these plainly obvious things that are just not able to be, in my opinion, argued or manipulated about we needing to protect innocent children. And I did when I was scheduled to tour in Australia before I even applied for my visa.

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My visa was rejected publicly again before I applied by their minister, Tony Burke. He said I won't let her in because the Zionist Federation of Australia leaders basically said that I was extreme and that my visa should be canceled. It couldn't have been canceled. I didn't have a visa yet.

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Long story short, you know, we when we actually did apply, it was Tony Burke put his hand in and said, you can't come into this country. And he called me everything like it was a stunning document in which I was being accused of being an Islamophobe, an anti-Semite, a racist against black people. I mean, you name it, a self-hating misogynist. It was all in there. Basically, there's just

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He wanted people to know there's no one I like at all, and that's why I couldn't come into the country. And also, I want to be very clear and even that when we submitted my application, there were also Jewish groups that disagreed with that.

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So it wasn't just like they disagreed with the Zionist Federation and said, even though I don't like her, I don't like her stance on Israel, she should have a right to speak. So it was, you know, being argued on both sides. But we agreed. applied to we applied our appealed our case pardon to the high court, which is essentially their their Supreme Court.

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And we just heard back that the full bench wants to sit this, meaning the entire court, rather than just getting a judge or getting someone to hear it. They're not only just they're not only accepting this case, but the full Supreme Court, if you will, of Australia is going to hear this case, which will be coming up soon. And so that case, if you would like to follow it, which is something that I'm

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I'm deeply honored that I am going to be the subject of this case. I won't be able to be there for the actual court case because I can't get into the country. But it is Candace Owens Farmer versus the minister of affairs versus the Commonwealth of Australia. And so we are going to bump our tour, hoping that they return this decision on this most crucial decision on free speech in our favor.

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Obviously, we don't know what's going to happen, but we are going to bump the tour until the fall. And so I just wanted to give you guys that update. I no matter what happens, just to be clear, I have no regrets.

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She's what she is arguably one of the top five most famous people in the world. And some people rushed and said, Oh, that's just the nature of football. Right. No, let's not take that excuse. It's not because it's football. OK, she was at the Super Bowl last year. She was in the middle of her Eros tour when she was at the Super Bowl last year and she did not get booed.

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You know, if the cost of playing the game and pretending, you know, I can go anywhere in the world as long as I pretend that I don't see children being bombed and starved and women crying and screaming and shrieking. I would rather not be able to to move around the world. I don't I just don't want to sell my humanity.

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I just agree with Tucker full heartedly that evil is evil and that we should not be seeing ourselves as like, well, it's worse when an American dies than when somebody dies. Like, you know, if one American dies and we should murder a million Iraqis. Like, that's not how my brain works. Like, innocent Iraqis. Like, I don't think that way. I never want to think that way.

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I never want to bend the knee to evil, as I've said many times. All right, guys, I do want to get into your comments about all of this Baldoni stuff and what we're speaking about. And I do, by the way, I see people in the comments right now. I do want to say that there does seem to be this degree of in order to defend what's happening in Israel right now, you have to blind yourself to evil.

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And it is strange. It is strange to see people that I deeply respect in politics not be able to say what Tucker said so plainly and so easily. Thank you so much for having me. at 800-795-1210. That's 800-795-1210. Or visit AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. That's AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. All right, guys, let's get to your comments. Second book, you can go to MakeHimASandwich.com.

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Gosh, guys, this was like, you have no idea the story behind this book. I've wrangled it from two publisher's hands. And I'm so happy that we will be that we are now in control of this book. And the timing is it was just God's timing, everything going on, the questions that we're starting to ask.

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I think more people kind of coming towards the middle and having stances and being willing to speak about this sort of radicalized feminism and being able to I don't I don't know that we could have done this book a year ago or two years ago. I don't think it would have worked. But the timing is right. And so we had already had planned to drop it Valentine's Day and to encourage everybody.

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It is available for presale. And it will be out late summer. So go to make him a sandwich dot com and you will love that. Also, people are commenting about this new. Yeah, of course, it's out. I told you guys everything is fake and gay.

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Bringing back the 90s and everybody got along and everybody said gay, not in a way to denigrate homosexuals, but because like we just called everything fake and gay because we were like cool in the 90s. Everybody was cool in the 90s. We were wearing overalls, saving up to go to Disney. Things were chill. Everything got crazy in the 2000s.

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She also has been on the sidelines following the Kansas City Chiefs around. And obviously the NFL has spotlighted her all throughout the season and she has not been booed. Some people say, well, it's because of politics. Well, that doesn't make sense either, because Donald Trump was there. OK, and he received a roarous applause, despite the fact that people have strong feelings against him.

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I don't know who we can blame, but we will find someone who we can blame. All right, who do we have in the comments today? Talia writes, so excited for this show today. As a Philly fan, the booing was diabolical for TS. I was obviously rooting for Philly. I used to live in Philly. I got engaged in Philly.

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So I got engaged, by the way, if you guys are in Philly, the restaurant Mellegrano is fantastic. downtown. Go for it. Oh, Nicholas, he's a Swifty. He's giving his thoughts. Amazing. Okay. Nicholas writes, Candice, I'm a Swifty since speak now and I would love to get my thoughts on Taylor's current PR status. Where can I message you? Right there, Nicholas. You could have messaged me right there.

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I would have read it out loud. He says that she's repeating her 2016 exposure all over again. I have thoughts and details about her recent hanging out with Selena Gomez right before the Super Bowl. It's known in the fandom that Selena and Blake don't like each other. Oh, I didn't know this about the fandom. Ooh, I will look into all of that. Thank you very much.

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Stacey writes, and you can email me always, you guys, any tidbits that you have, info at CandaceOwens.com. Stacey writes, Candace, have you listened to the Gents Talk podcast with Justin Baldoni? Everyone in the comments was tagging you. I have not because it had aired just like an hour before. I knew it was coming out, but I also knew that it was filmed prior to...

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Obviously, the lawsuit's being dropped. So it was great marketing on their part. But I know I did see some clips of him saying that he had anxiety. And so I will definitely go over it and comment on it. Likely probably on my Instagram stories. I'll do that because tomorrow we're going jumping back into becoming Brigitte.

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Brian Schwartz writes, I'm not sure Piers understands the nature of this Gaza war. He says it's a war, but it's a dirty war. Piers is kind of boyishly naive and doesn't question authority. What say you? I think he's afraid of the cancellation. I mean, I did not go through a normal thing last year to say a true thing. You know, it's not normal.

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It is like nothing I've ever seen before in terms of trying to use the media to make people think that you are hateful when in fact it's them that's being hateful and it's them that is being inhumane and it's them that are trying to propagandize and to brainwash people into accepting the death of children because they're well, ironically, Semitic. Like I said, Palestinians are Semitic.

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So it was not easy to go through what I went through last year, but I never once lost faith that, you know, you just have to do the right thing. And at the end of the day, I just don't think evil wins. I think it can win temporarily. I think it can win quickly, but I don't think it wins in the end.

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We have Lisa who writes, Candice, you're such an inspiration and a role model to young girls everywhere. Thank you so much. Real... So Nyjah Chick writes, thank you, Candice, for being a badass and for standing up for the truth. Will your new book be available for purchase in the UK? Yes, you cannot get it. We got a ton of emails about this. I should have answered that earlier.

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You cannot get the book available for presale if you are overseas. There's a reason for that. It's like just the way the book world works. So for presale, you can. But once it actually goes on official sale, you will be able to get it overseas. And so I will update you guys on all of that. If you guys have signed up for the book club, don't forget we are reading Chaos.

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And our first book club meeting is going to be tomorrow. Just go to CandiceOwens.com. We're going to speak about the first part of the book. Crazy, crazy read. And I'm really excited for it. Bear with me because it'll be our first time that we're doing it. So if something goes wrong, I promise we will make it all up. And other than that, it has been an amazing, explosive Monday.

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And, you know, of course, everywhere he goes, there's going to be a chance that some people don't like him. And so I don't accept any of those excuses. And I think something else is happening. And I think what could be happening is that the world is starting to register some Taylor Swift things. fatigue. OK. And part of this absolutely is because of what is going on with Justin Baldoni and her.

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She's been in the press a lot regarding this unbelievable circumstance of bullying. And even though we can't say that Taylor Swift is guilty. Right. And she's doing everything to basically signal to the media, I will never to speak to Blake Lively again, please do not drag me into this lawsuit. I do think that what's happening is there's something that's starting to emerge about Taylor Swift.

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And I would call it almost the brand versus the person. And I'm super keen to hear the Swifties on this, because even like I said, the Swifties really want to get to the bottom of the Justin Baldoni case and understand what was Taylor Swift's involvement. They're not hotheaded right now. They're not like, well, you know, Blake just used her. In fact, people aren't liking the excuse that

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Taylor Swift is once again saying that she's been used, right? And I think people are asking questions like, how much of the brand of Taylor Swift, this nice girl who helps out people, is real? Another obvious question is, why was she so close with Blake Lively and Ryan? Because whether we know how much she contributed to this case or whether we get answers to how much she contributed to this...

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We can all ask a realistic question, which is, OK, why are you friends with these monsters? We all agree that Ryan Reynolds is a monster. And you're going to think even worse of him when I show you this. Something that he wrote or he was recorded as saying rather in this book about Justin Baldoni. Nice pull. But you are the company you keep, okay? You are aware of Blake Lively's personality.

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You were aware of Ryan Reynolds' personality. There's a reason why the first time Ryan Reynolds even texts with Justin Baldoni, he drops your name. You've been all around speaking about how close you are with them, how much you love them, how much you adore them. You said yes when they asked you to be the godmother. I can't accept that you didn't know this is how they behaved. I won't accept that.

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I think that's an element of this. And then it leads you down, I think, a path where you go, OK, well, has every ex really been so terrible with Taylor Swift? Was Calvin Harris lying when he said that she operates behind the scenes? I'm summarizing, but he was basically like, I know your moves. You use the media to go after people.

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And I have an amazing update for those of you who are hanging on for my Australia tour. All that coming up on Candace. All right. So leading up to the Super Bowl, my producer had this idea that Taylor Swift might attend with Blake Lively. He was like, that's going to be when we can really see. And I was like, there's a zero percent chance.

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Remember that moment where Icarus almost flew too close to the sun with Taylor Swift? And Calvin Harris said some stuff. But at that moment, the world wasn't ready to hear that. And he got attacked for saying that. Like, oh, my gosh, how could he do this? And he was basically saying she's playing a media game. Are people starting to go back and revisit that?

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Is she really always just being used and being treated terribly? Or should we accept some of the lyrics in her songs when she tells us that she's the author of a lot of that, that she controls things behind the scenes? Is that just being art? Is she just using art and imagining herself as that person?

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Or is Taylor Swift a media empire that is able to get out a narrative regarding various topics, and those narratives are sometimes not always in line with the truth? Are people getting Taylor Swift fatigue, I would say, is the question, okay?

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and my producer getting into this, the presentation of her versus the reality of who she might be, my producer pointed out something that is incredibly interesting that we should have picked up on and discussed before, okay? Back in 2016, notoriously, Kesha accused Dr. Luke of sexual abuse. And there was this image of her which was plastered everywhere.

Candace

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It was just like at the beginning of the Me Too movement of her in the back of a courtroom crying when a judge decided that she was not able to simply, you know, leave her case, leave her contract with Sony. And he, I think Dr. Luke owned six albums. She hadn't delivered them and she was crying. And just that picture without people really knowing the facts of the case, got people to react.

Candace

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And suddenly all of these celebrities started donating to her legal fees. And one of those celebrities, by the way, was Taylor Swift. She instantly jumped in in 2016 and donated $250,000. And she had her team make a public statement, a representative for her

Candace

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said, quote, in a show of support, Taylor Swift has donated a quarter of a million dollars to Kesha to help with any of her financial needs during this trying time. OK, OK, fine. And I want to also be clear, it's not the first time that she did that way back in 2013. And I, by the way, to this day, will say I believe this happened to Taylor Swift like she was telling the truth.

Candace

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One hundred percent. Remember, you had that weird, creepy radio guy who grabbed her butt and And you can see it here. And there's just no way she took this guy to court for four years because it didn't happen. Like she took a stance and was like, this is unacceptable. Kept him in court for four years.

Candace

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In 2017, she wins the court case for one dollar because she just wanted to send a message about how what he did was not OK. Very good. And then she decided to donate on top of that in 2017 to assault victims. Right. Here is the headline in Reuters. Taylor Swift donates to assault victims group after groping win. Okay, so very happy to hear that.

Candace

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Then that instantly just makes us go, okay, well, wait a second. If all of that is how she reacts to sexual assault, do you mean to tell me that... She then has a best friend of 10 years, okay? 10 years, her and Blake Lively have been friends. And her best friend has selected Taylor Swift to be the godmother of her children, okay? They're all over the place together. They're being photographed.

Candace

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They're sharing each other's secrets. They're telling each other everything. They're basically branding each other together, going through relationships. A decade of friendships, okay? Her and Ryan Reynolds, I think she said like Ryan Reynolds was like a brother to her or whatever it was that we covered when she was promoting Deadpool for him.

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And now we have December of 2024 and her best friend comes out and says, it happened to me too. You know, I was I was sexually harassed by Justin Baldoni. It's terrible. You're going to tell me these girls were not speaking about this all year, knowing what we know now, knowing that Blake has come out and said Taylor was with with with her every step of the way.

Candace

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She was with you every step of the way in the making of this movie, which means that you were speaking to her throughout this movie, talking to her about this horrific incident that happened to you. You're so close. And yet you drop this lawsuit and Taylor Swift elects to remain silent. You guys buying that?

Candace

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Are you guys buying that Taylor Swift would choose to remain silent if she thought or knew that the allegations that were being made against Justin Baldoni are true? No, you're not buying that. I'm not buying that. And here's what I want to say to you about that, because what it signals to me is that Brian Friedman needs to get this girl on the stand yesterday.

Candace

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I am telling you he needs to depose Taylor Swift because she knows something. What it signals to me is that she maybe knew that Blake and Ryan were orchestrating a plan. In order to take over this movie.

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OK, I said everything about what happened as I was reading through this lawsuit just reminded me of Taylor Swift in terms of the Deadpool stuff, like dropping an album, dropping all of these Easter eggs, saying all these things on Instagram. It felt to me like a Taylor Swift album. Then we found out that she was close, like she was involved in all this stuff. And I'm just going, what's going on?

Candace

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There's not even a negative one percent chance that Taylor Swift is showing up with Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. That is just put it out of your mind because she has proven time and time again, no matter what you think about her, whether you love her, whether you hate her. She cares deeply about what the public thinks. That is just a fact.

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And it is actually the loudest silence in all of this is that Taylor Swift did not make a statement when that was filed. And she for sure would have known, given the nature of their relationship, that it was going to be filed. So what gives? What gives? Ironically, in the Dr. Luke situation, he may have been a guy before his time, but his defense was this sexual abuse did not happen.

Candace

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Rather, Kesha is making these allegations because she wants to change her contract. I'm saying that's just a little bit of irony here, okay? Anyways, moving on from that, Ryan Reynolds, if you have not seen him, he's been spotted out in public a few times in New York, also at an event. He now looks exceedingly thin. He has lost a lot of weight, showing that he is stressed.

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Again, I do not wish bad for him and Blake. I don't wish bad on anybody. I just want, I'm almost like asympathetic. I feel nothing for them. I have no sympathy for them. And I just want them to get what they have coming to them, which is for people to recognize who these people are, okay?

Candace

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And so in an amazingly psychotic find, someone that I used to work with texted me this weekend and we just like kind of get deep in the trenches together on like research stuff the whole time. We're just like obsessive about things. And she randomly texted me and she informs me that Ryan Reynolds actually has a book that is published.

Candace

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It's not, he didn't write the book, but essentially, and this is some Comic-Con stuff, guys, like literally like if you're deep into Marvel Universe or DC Universe, you may know about these things. I definitely do not know about these things, but they create these books, essentially, about all of the movies. And they're sort of these art books.

Candace

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This one's called Marvel Studios, Deadpool and Wolverine, the art of the movie. I know there's going to be someone watching this that's like very into the comic universe stuff. And they're going to be like, Candice, you're describing this wrong. I'm doing my best, okay?

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Essentially what that is, it's a gallery of never before seen artwork, which is the description, and exclusive lithographs and in-depth interviews with the creative team.

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So these are created by going to the team, speaking to the characters and asking them, people that have made this movie, essentially the original artwork, lithograph, whatever, and then saying like, tell me how and why you created this character. And so they sit down with these characters and the people that created them and they ask them questions, right? And I am scared. I am so scared.

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So I'm going to read you directly what Ryan had to say when they sat down with him to discuss Nice Pool. OK, I'm going to show you this and then I'll give you the exact quotation. You can pull this up. This is from the book. I ordered it. This cost me $80. I spent $80 on this that you don't have to. It doesn't arrive until tonight, but she was able to.

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Whether you whether you think that's a good thing that we can kind of manipulate who she's friends with. There have been plenty of examples of that. Right. First and foremost, Matt Healy. Everyone forgot about Matt Healy. She was like really deep into that for a couple of weeks or a month or whatever until her fans said no. And she cared so much about that.

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She found it actually on like a super niche YouTube page of somebody who just goes through these like Marvel art books or whatever. And she was able to screen grab it. And then I ordered it, but it doesn't arrive until 10 p.m. tonight. Darn you, Amazon. I needed it for the show by today, but it's okay. Anyways, it says, in one respect, NicePool is everything Deadpool wishes he was.

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Reynolds says, you know, easy, breezy, gorgeous hair, normal face, gold plated 50 caliber Desert Eagle pistols and this beautiful suit. But the thing that Deadpool is most coveted, covetous of is, of course, Dogpool. OK, just pausing there.

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OK, so he is saying, if you know that we understand what this character was created for, is that as Ryan Reynolds, actually, I like who I want to be is Justin Baldoni. Right. He's got this presentation. He's easy. He's breezy. We have him in this beautiful suit. But the one thing that Deadpool is the most coveted of is, of course, Dogpool. We know that Dogpool is Blake Lively.

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Okay, like this is so creepy, so creepy. Okay, it goes on. So nice pool initially just existed to serve the purpose of introducing dog pool, but then it evolved and it grew. The idea appealed of creating this character based on guys you find in the Zygust right now who are faux nice. They may present as very progressive and enlightened.

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Nicepool himself identifies as a feminist, but the truth is very different. They're talking about themselves as these incredible allies, but underneath that, there's something a little false and probably awful, Reynolds says. I liked that this guy was kind of paving over all of this

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All right, guys. Happy Monday. Sorry we are running a few minutes late. There are so many pieces when you're doing these series that you just want to make sure that you dot your I's and cross your T's. So sometimes we take a couple of extra minutes to get everything going. But as always, I promise you it will be well worth the wait. And I am so excited to bring forth this series.

Candace

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You can stay with me. You can stay at the Ritz. And she says that she declines that offer. They get out of the car. His assistant, by the way, male assistant, is also in the car. He's like, oh, this is where you live? This is the building that you live in? She's like, yeah. I guess Harvey was just paying attention to the layout or something, at least.

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That's what you're left when you get through the transcripts. That's kind of the impression that you get, that Harvey was kind of just monitoring and really wanted to know where this young woman lived. She said that she didn't want to go to Paris, but she says that he didn't take no for an answer.

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And she testified that she had no intention of doing so, but in an effort to be polite, she said to him that she would let him know, maybe I will go to Paris. And that Weinstein calls her repeatedly. And then later on, he comes back. He shows up at her apartment for the second time that day. And now we're going to jump right into this court transcript. I can only imagine.

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This is one of the most powerful men in the world. And he's going to this East Village apartment today. So the question that she gets asked on the stand is, did you act in any way romantically interested in Harvey Weinstein? She says no. Did you act in any way sexually interested in Harvey Weinstein? No. Did you hear from Harvey Weinstein once he left your apartment and you went inside? Yes.

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Maybe she was even that girl who, before she left her hometown, quietly mocked in the back of her mind the unambitious other women, right? The girls from her hometown who married off at the age of 20 and then they immediately started having families. Maybe in her youth she mocked them because, you know, she knew that she had something special. She was going to make it.

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At that point, was your roommate Liz at home? She was not. Was Peanut there? Peanut is Liz's dog. I believe so. Describe the additional contact. Well, I heard from him and his assistant a few times that day asking if I had decided whether or not I was going to go to Paris. And I said, thank you so much, but no, I am not going to come.

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He said, well, just think about it again, you know, and he kept calling and I kept saying, thank you so much, but no. And Question, those initial communications that you were describing, were those phone calls? Answer, I'm not, I believe they were phone calls, yes.

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Question, and that was to that phone number that you had in your planner and that you were using at that time when you were in New York. She answers, I believe so. I'm not 100% sure that they were phone calls, but it's more like they were phone calls than emails. Question, can you describe Harvey Weinstein's tone during those conversations of those phone calls?

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She answers, well, he was persistent and persistent. And what if anything happened sort of following those repeated phone calls? Well, and later he showed up unannounced at the apartment building. And I am not sure if he rang the intercom or whether he called me on the phone and said he was outside, but he had shown up there unexpectedly.

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question, did you try to get him to leave via phone initially? I did. He wanted to come inside and I said it wasn't a good time. And so he said, you know, just talk to me like five minutes. I want to see you for five minutes or something like that question. And so after you had said that it wasn't a good time, did he remain outside of your building? Yes, he wouldn't leave.

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And can you describe his tone at that point? It was just very persistent and insistent. And what did you do? Well, I didn't want him to come into the apartment, so I thought I will go out and see him outside, just like outside by the door. So I left the doors open to go outside to open the front door.

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And as soon as I opened it, he just pulled it apart like that and barged past me and walked down the hallway and said, where is it? Where is it? And he was pointing and he saw, obviously, the door was open and he just walked into the apartment. Let me just come out of this transcript for a second.

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So Harvey Weinstein reappeared at her apartment and she doesn't kind of maybe sort of remember the phone call ish. The phone call details are always a bit hazy when you go through this transcript. But she knows that he she only went outside because she didn't want him to come inside. But Harvey's she's given a narrative. He's crazy. He's like, where is it? Where is it? I want to see Harvey.

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your East Village apartment and just bursts past her and barges in and somehow finds exactly which apartment it was because the door was open and he just took a guess. That is power, my friends. Anyway, jumping back into this, the lawyer asks, and what did you do? I mean, I was just standing there like I didn't I didn't know what to do. So I just like, oh, God, oh, no.

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Why is he walking into the apartment? Describe what happened. Did you go into the apartment? Did you follow him into the apartment? Yes. And describe what happened once you were inside of the apartment. Well, once we were inside of the apartment, we were just standing there and he was basically standing there. He asked a few things about the apartment and who I was living with.

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She was leaving her hometown. And I think about that because... Interestingly enough, in my first book, I wrote an entire chapter about a friend that I used to have who was exactly that sort of an individual. And I spoke about her because she was an aspiring actress in Brooklyn and we met interning and just kind of chose different paths in our life.

Candace

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And then he was persisting with trying to convince me to go with him on this trip to Paris. I mean, he must have really want her to go on the ship to Paris. Question. Do you remember anything about the details of what he was saying at that point? Answer. Well, at one point he said, OK, well, why don't you just take your roommate if that will make you come? She can come, too.

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She can be your chaperone or whatever. What was your responses to his request? Well, I was still trying. I felt I was just saying thank you so much, but no, thank you. Basically, I'm not going to come. Can you describe his demeanor in the apartment as he is making these repeated requests? He was just very overwhelming and he wasn't he was just very, very persistent.

Candace

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And he was still friendly, but it was almost beggy. And he was kind of very insistent and would not just take just accept the no. Did you continue to hold your ground and say that you were not going to go with him? Yes. Was he listening? And then there's an objection here from Harvey's attorney. So he rephrases the question. Was he continuing to ask you to go? Yes.

Candace

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At some point, did he stop asking you to go? Yes. Can you describe that? Well, at one point I had, because I just didn't know how to shut it down, so to speak, I just said something that I have, you know... I was trying to say things and I said, you know, you have a terrible reputation with women, I have heard. And it was more like half a joke or something.

Candace

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I was trying to be friendly still, but he got offended by that and he stepped back and he said, what do you mean? What have you heard? That sort of thing. And I said, no, I'm just saying like, no, just in general, like whatever. But that's when he backed off. At that point, do you leave your apartment? Yes. And I'm going to show you that I have marked as people's exhibit 65 through 69.

Candace

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Do you recognize the people's exhibit 65 through 69? I do. What do you recognize those to be? So this is the front door of the apartment building where I lived during that time. So I wanted to just describe to you that incident because it's important to understand. So she starts with this hotel incident and then and can. And now we've moved and she's, you know, gets a ride.

Candace

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And I guess he's just decided to memorize her little East Village apartment. And he's barged in, luckily found the apartment because he could tell from this door that That that must be hers. And he walked in there and she follows. And then despite this beast and monster chasing her, she's able to get him to back off with just this one sentence. Oh, you have a bad reputation with women.

Candace

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Her memory then gets a little bit fuzzy, I got to tell you. She doesn't remember, again, exactly how they communicated. But she acknowledges that she accepts an invitation for Weinstein to fly her out to California, Los Angeles, for the premiere of Clerks 2, a movie, in July of 2006. She frames that as like, you know, I felt bad I didn't go to Paris. But she's going to go to L.A.

Candace

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because also the timing works out for her because her friend just had a baby. But then something happens. OK, before Mimi flies out to L.A. on July 10th, 2006, Harvey invites her to his Soho apartment. And that's what you heard her crying about. He forcibly performs a sexual act on her.

Candace

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I was kind of just wanting to get myself out of student loan debt, willing to take any and every job. And she was just sort of this free spirit. She described herself as a free spirit and she came from another country and it was all about attending the right parties, meeting the right directors. She was just so much cooler than me.

Candace

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Now, even if you knew nothing about this case, just this sentence alone that I'm about to show you from 2020 when the trial was going on, AB News article that was covering the trial would probably make you go, huh?

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It reads, quote, one of the two women that Harvey Weinstein is on trial for sexually assaulting took the witness stand on Monday to describe how the Hollywood producer violently and sexually assaulted her and to explain why she returned to him within a month and endured a second unwanted sexual encounter.

Candace

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So she's taking the stand to explain why after a violent sexual forcible assault, she then went back to him within a month to endure a second assault. That doesn't sound right. But yeah, Mimi's allegations were that on July 10th, 2006, Harvey Weinstein forcibly performed a sex act on her. Then she went to L.A. on his dime, by the way.

Candace

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And when she returned on July 26th, 2006, so we're talking two weeks, it happened again. Mimi alleges that when she returned from LA to New York City, about two weeks later, Harvey invited her to the Tribeca Grand Hotel for a drink, and she agreed. She said, quote, he was very persistent and insistent.

Candace

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I've already explained to you why it's so special to me, mainly because the Me Too movement, I believe, has... become an evil manifestation, and I have three sons. So let's jump right into it. Welcome to episode one of Harvey Speaks. All right, guys, so where should we begin? I'm thinking that we should begin with the theater kid archetype, okay?

Candace

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She explained her going back by saying, quote, I was still trying to make sense of what had happened, why it had happened, and I felt very trapped in not being able to do anything about it.

Candace

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She said she felt like she was trying to regain some sort of power until she walked in to meet him on July 26th, 2006, wearing a battered pair of vintage shoes with little money and no family in the U.S., by the way. So she testified, quote, I just felt like some sort of hobo, just like a girl who's just down on her luck. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Candace

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Park aside, the fact that we're talking about a grown adult woman, she was down on her luck and she really was just kind of going there to regain power. But she testified that when she arrived at the Tribeca Grand Hotel, she was directed to Weinstein's room where I mean, I call me crazy. I maybe wouldn't have gone to his hotel room again. But like, this is a different, it's different.

Candace

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She's going again to regain power. And this is where she claims that he took her hand and he pulled her toward a bed. And she says at that moment, quote, I just went numb because she realized right then that Weinstein had trapped her again. She testified, quote, I just felt like an idiot. In the courtroom, this is the moment where she trembles and she weeps and she puts her hands in her head.

Candace

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She was so much cooler than me and more confident than me and she was gorgeous. She was prettier than me. And for a while, it seemed to be working for her. Men fell at her feet. She got these small acting gigs that she wanted. And then as we grew older... And obviously in Hollywood, older is even when you're young. She stopped getting those small roles.

Candace

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Because if you're thinking about asking questions about that or wondering if there's an aspect of common sense here, maybe don't go back to a hotel room. Don't let him into your apartment, anything like that. The point is, is now she's crying on the stand. And crying counts for a lot on the stand. You're going to learn that a lot throughout this case.

Candace

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Now, I want to take you through when Harvey's lawyer is able to question her because it gets quite interesting. And if you go back to that original encounter at the Cannes Film Festival, he asks her. And this is the top of 1638, Skylar. He asks her, remember, this is when he's supposed to be the massage incident at an initial one. He he's realizing I have some questions, even though she's crying.

Candace

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And he Damon Chernus is his name is the lawyer. And he says that assistant brings you up to the room and she says, correct. And then he says, do you remember what you did earlier that day on the 24th at the Cannes Film Festival? Do you remember where you went? I don't. When you get to the Hotel Majestic, you get brought to Mr. Weinstein's room, right? Yes.

Candace

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The two of you, according to your testimony, have a brief conversation about whatever. Yes. At some point, you say Mr. Weinstein asks you about massages. Yes. He asks if you'll give him a massage or at some point if he can give you a massage, right? Correct. At this point, you told the members of the jury that you were very upset to say the least, right? Yes. I was offended, yes.

Candace

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You were offended because this was a business meeting that you thought you were going to potentially talk about Project Runway. No, not Project Runway at this point. Something else? I allegedly, I went there to meet him to ask if he had anything, any production work that I could help on, yes.

Candace

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During the course of that meeting, is it your testimony Mr. Weinstein propositioned you with a massage, right? Repeat. propositioned you with a massage? He did, yes. And you were humiliated is the word you used. I was. You left and you left the room. You testified. You started crying. Once I left the hotel. And when did Mr. Weinstein give you his phone number during the course of that?

Candace

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I don't recall when he actually gave it to me. Somebody's phone number is usually the last thing that you get, right? Objection, says her lawyer. Probably, she says. The court says overruled. Was it after Mr. Weinstein had made these propositions and you were walking out the door that he gave you his phone number? Objection, Mr. Haas says. The court overrules that objection.

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She answers, possibly, probably. Then you said at some point later you received a call from Mr. Weinstein, but you don't really remember it. I don't really remember if it was from Mr. Weinstein himself or an assistant, but somebody came through to arrange for me to go help out on Project Runway. Mr. Weinstein gave you his number? Yes, I may have followed up with his office.

Candace

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So we are clear, you called Mr. Weinstein's office after this massage request? Yes. And when you called Mr. Weinstein's office, who did you talk to? Actually, I'm not sure, but yes, yes. Were you thinking in your head at this time this massage incident occurred? Why am I going to call this guy for a job? No, I needed a job.

Candace

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And isn't it true that Project Runway was already in production at that point? Correct. And being in the production industry, you are aware it was probably fully staffed by the time that you would have gotten involved, correct? And she answers, yes. Well, it's an interesting testimony there. Yeah, she needed a job.

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And I sensed in her a bitterness, a bitterness at the different decisions that I had made in my life. And unfortunately, our friendship ended. But I'll never forget that one of our last conversations that we had was actually about the Me Too movement. And she was so invested in it. She was like, you don't understand. Like, this has to happen.

Candace

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And kind of has to admit, like, yeah, maybe she got his number on the way out of that horrible massage incident in which she cried. And then maybe she reached out to his office about that position, which wasn't really an open position, but required someone with power to kind of make the position for a person who isn't supposed to be working in the U.S. just kind of happen. I don't know.

Candace

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I don't know. I'm not I'm not alleging anything. OK, but the point is, I'm just reading you the testimonies that are going on. And then Damis Churnis is able to question her again. Of course, he questions her throughout this entire thing. But about that incident. on July 26th, when she just can't explain how she got trapped again by him at another hotel. And here is from that transcript.

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Cheronas asks her, on the 26th of July, you had sex with Harvey Weinstein, correct? There was sex with Harvey Weinstein, yes, she replied. Shortly after, Cheronas asked her, he didn't force you to have sex, did he? I didn't physically resist, she replied. Do you remember testifying before the grand jury that the sex was not forced? Correct, because I didn't resist, Halehi said.

Candace

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He also then challenges her, according to this article, her recollection on the stand, where she now says that he called her a B-I-T-C-H and that he called her a whore. And that was something that she had not recounted in her initial interviews with prosecutors. She found that to be very strange. Like when you're in front of that grand jury in early 2018, you never said any of this stuff.

Candace

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And here's how she replied. She said, quote, I think that is something that I remembered later. She said, OK, OK, let's just take her at her face value here. Listen, I'm not here to not believe women. Let's take everything she said into account because, again, Harvey gets 20 years, okay? And I hate being a person with common sense, so I'm happy for you guys to comment. Let me know what you think.

Candace

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I would expect that after having survived two sexual assaults,

Candace

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after having survived with one powerful sentence, you have a bad rotation with women, having survived him having barged into her apartment, plus the weird massage incident in the room that began it all, I would surmise that Mimi Halehi, now done with that in the past, project runway situation over, that she would have maybe just stayed away from Harvey Weinstein altogether. Is that fair?

Candace

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I'll look in the chat. Is that fair? Is it fair to go, OK, maybe just stay away from this guy? He's bad news bears. Like if you're not going to go to the cops, you're too scared. Fine. But just stay away from him. And if you think that is fair, or if you think it's not fair, I invite you to tell me why it isn't. I can tell you the answer. She didn't stay away from him.

Candace

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And I had wondered, even though I was listening to her, whether or not... Her investment in the Me Too movement was actually her trying to reconcile decisions that she had made in her past, decisions that she had made with producers and people that she thought that, well, if she slept with, they might lead to her getting her big break. Anyways, that's all somewhat anecdotal.

Candace

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She didn't stay away from him after her sexual, various sexual assaults in 2006. You're going to be rather surprised to learn that she instead would send Harvey Weinstein emails. He conducts his emails always through his assistants. And she sent Harvey Weinstein this email two years after her double assault. This email went out on Friday, June 27th, 2008. She wrote, Hi, Harvey. How are you?

Candace

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It's great to see you in Cannes. I noticed an article in today's New York Post about the Addams Family being turned into a Broadway musical. Just to remind you what a genius I am, didn't I tell you that was a great idea like three years ago at the Mercer Bar? Lots of love, Miriam. Oh, lots of love. I was not expecting to read lots of love. Now, I want to be honest. I've never been raped.

Candace

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I've never been sexually assaulted. But I would imagine in a world where that happened to me, I probably wouldn't send an email and say lots of love to the person that had conducted those sexual assaults. That's just me. Again, I could be in a totally crazy space. Happy to hear you guys come explain to me why that sometimes happens. And And so specific.

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And she's kind of going back to the Mercer bar. She says they had that great time together. That was just right before he scoped out her apartment, barged in. And she doesn't seem to be concerned about that. And to be clear, Harvey replied to her three days later. Sounds like a busy guy. Maybe he wasn't giving her the attention that she needed or wanted.

Candace

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And he replied on the 30th and he said this to her. Miriam, you are a genius. It's good to hear from you. All my best, Harvey. Oh, just one sentence back, which he just must have been so pompous and so arrogant that he didn't even allocate the proper amount of time to wanting to have this relationship or wanting her to like him, because if he had committed these insane assaults, you know.

Candace

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I don't know. I just I would imagine that he would want to, you know, make sure that she was happy. But that's a pretty short response. Anyways, she then writes him again. Yeah. A year after that, she writes him on February 25th of 2009. This time she's a bit more explicit in what she's what she's looking for. She writes, Dear Harvey. I haven't seen you in so long. How are you?

Candace

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Listen, I'm saving up to become a Kundalini yoga teacher and I just wanted to announce myself available for work. If you happen to by any chance have anything shooting in London, I'll be a runner, whatever. I'd really appreciate any leads. A cat needs feeding. Either way, I hope you are super well. Peace and love, Miriam.

Candace

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Okay, so I don't know if I'm just not aware of what can happen or why you might email a person who has multiple times assaulted you and again, try to put yourself into a circumstance where you are working for him. But that is what Miriam did. And now we are talking, she's three years older. So she's about 32, 33 years old. And I would say, obviously, Miriam,

Candace

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It's real, but anecdotal. And the reason that we're here today is because we're speaking about Harvey Weinstein. Because we all remember nothing and everything about this case. It is very strange. There was so much information that we couldn't dilute it at that time.

Candace

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Probably had every opportunity at that moment to go to the police and to report what had happened to her. But she doesn't do that. She doesn't do that at all. She waits another. This is 2009. She comes out with her allegations in 2017.

Candace

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She waits another eight years when she's next to Gloria Allred and Harvey Weinstein is going down and she decides to present this story as her having been sexually assaulted. And she was successful. Like I said, she broke down crying on the stand. And that was enough in New York to give him 20 years.

Candace

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Now, when we take a look at the transcript and we start hearing and looking at more information about that time that he barged into her apartment, you know, when Damon Chernus is able to put her on the stand and ask her questions about that setup of the apartment. And you learn that there was not just one door in which she had to buzz him into and he barged. burst through it.

Candace

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There was also a second security door that you would have to be buzzed into. And she's not really sure how he goes, doesn't really remember the details of how he got past that one, but he did. And then we learned that the layout of that apartment actually required him to go right and then left in order to get to her open door, which

Candace

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And I am telling you, when I'm reading this transcript, I'm thinking, if a girl did not want you to come to her apartment, to be inside of her apartment, you've got two security doors, you've got to call to get it. I mean, I just maybe would have let it, the call go to, go unanswered, maybe. Not opened the second door, not showed him. Well, I'm not implying she did.

Candace

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Obviously, her testimony is he just said, where is it? Where is it? And then, you know, found it. Just was able to find it. She's like had a scent about where her apartment might be. But I felt like there were maybe some opportunities for her to get out of that situation when I was reading through. And then I found to be very weird. And again, this is another one of her memory lapses.

Candace

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When Damon Chernus, the lawyer, starts asking her about this trip to L.A. that she says she got invited to because of a movie premiere. Then we learned that she was in L.A. for two weeks and that Harvey paid for that trip. And then Damon kind of says, hey, how long do movie premieres usually last? And she says, you know, I'm paraphrasing here, one night.

Candace

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And so you were there for two weeks and Harvey paid for this trip. Yeah, she doesn't remember how that happened after he barged into her apartment, but recalls maybe that she... And then Damon shows her an email, another email that she sent to the Weinstein company, where she says, hey, yeah, um... Harvey said that he would help me get to Los Angeles.

Candace

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And then Damon Churnis, Harvey's lawyer, is able to show in her calendar entry that on June 26th, actually, she had gone out to buy her friend who had a baby in L.A. a gift. So before Harvey, before this movie premiere offer, which she alleges was the reason for her going to L.A., she had plans to go to L.A. So that, I guess, was serendipitous, serendipitous.

Candace

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We for sure remember that it began with an explosion, an explosion of journalists and then way too many women to count that were making allegations. Here is just a small snippet.

Candace

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Or as Damon kind of presents, he was just paying for her to go to L.A. And this wasn't really about a movie premiere. This was about Harvey Weinstein. Again, this is reading the transcripts. My takeaway is that they kind of maybe had, He just offered to pay for her to go to L.A. on a trip. And he didn't really need her at the movie premiere at all. But what do I know?

Candace

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Again, I don't want to make any implications here because he was found guilty, guys. And there's so much more that I'm going to tell you about Mimi, this woman who kind of enjoyed these father-like relationships, these mentor-like relationships. And truly, guys, she just felt like a hobo.

Candace

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And it's really sad that this 30-year-old woman just couldn't, I guess, didn't have enough life experience to know about these pitfalls of men and their hotel rooms and robes. And even when the signs were there and he asked for a massage and... You know, those parts get really hazy. And so the New York courts said that she was a victim.

Candace

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And what's really compelling, by the way, is to when you hear all these people pretending to be outraged that the appellate court said, what happened here? And one of the things that one of the judges says, and we'll get to that transcript tomorrow or in our next installment of this when they're reviewing this case, is they go, why were certain people even allowed to testify?

Candace

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Because it almost looks to this judge, this appellate judge, that they didn't have the evidence really to convict Harvey. So they just kind of allowed this sort of banana court thing to happen where they let people testify about all sorts of things. Like Bob Weinstein, his brother, Harvey once got into a fight with his brother. Okay, why is this being allowed in this courtroom?

Candace

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What does that have to do with anything? What does that have to do with...

Candace

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anything happening so if you if you get into a fistfight with your brother or you punch your brother it means that you're a rapist what what is it was all about just like character assassination you know oh harvey one time you know didn't pay me or something it's just like assassinating his character it seems like a show trial like i said i'll show you what the appellate judge said about this and why they are sending this back down but i want you to imagine this i want you to imagine you

Candace

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or someone you love, maybe it's your woman watching, your husband, your brother, your son, gets 20 years in prison. 20 years in prison for this relationship of Mimi, now goes by Mimi Haley. And nobody really cares to look into this and to recognize that There's some strange things that I think went down here. Anyways, we're going to stop there for today.

Candace

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Candace

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I can't wait to see what you guys are thinking about just what I presented you so far. Tip of the iceberg, guys. Tip of the iceberg. Okay, we're just getting started here. So don't even get crazy. And it's amazing to think, by the way, I know we had showed you before when we cut a trailer for this, but all of these celebrities, he's God, he's God, he's God. And then instantly, right?

Candace

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instantly, and this is a matter of self-preservation, those very same people, like Jennifer Lawrence, who said he was a god and thank you, I owe you so much, turned on him and were a part of the dog pile. Take a listen.

Candace

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Incredible. With friends like these who all took, took, took. Who needs enemies, right? And that's kind of the thing about the Me Too movement is how it moves. When people are certain that people are going down, they are willing to say so much. And then when someone starts going back and through the facts, I think people get a little bit nervous.

Candace

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I think there's going to be a lot of celebs that are nervous. They know I'm talking to Harvey. They know I know stuff. They know I'm getting close. freaking out. What do I know about these people? OK. And similarly, we saw this, by the way, to go into a current event with the Blake Lively thing. Oh, it was so easy for the cast members to throw. Oh, my God. Just throw Justin Baldoni under the bus.

Candace

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And I don't mean to correlate Justin to Harvey, but it was amazing because it's Justin was just so kind and did nothing wrong. And they all were like self-preservation. La la la, Brandon Sklenar. Read it. Read the complaint. Well, guess what?

Candace

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I just wanted to very quickly let you guys know Brandon Sklenar has had a change of heart because he is avoiding saying that he's Team Blake like the absolute plague now. And so last night there were the Oscars last night. I didn't watch them, but I did catch that on the red carpet of the Vanity Fair Oscars party, someone came up to him and just flat out asked him if he was Team Blake, you know?

Candace

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Decades, she said. And it was, of course, then this very big watershed moment that was going to bring down Harvey Weinstein. Goodness, you guys, he was arguably the most powerful man in Hollywood. And now we had upwards of 100 women who were claiming that they had been sexually abused, harassed or even raped, which is why he's in prison today. But I got to tell you something right away.

Candace

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And here's what he had to say. Take a listen.

Candace

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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Say a bunch of words and also say absolutely nothing. I get it. Brandon, so much easier. Just say sorry. So much easier. But you will know, by the way, that was the Hollywood Reporter. OK, the Hollywood Reporter is the one that is like unbelievably Team Blake and Team Ryan. Ari Emanuel's got power at the Hollywood Reporter.

Candace

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So they set him up for that, trying to get him to say something great about Blake Lively and that. failed and he just kind of backed out and just mumble, jumbo, jumbo, mumbled his way out of that one. That's kind of amazing. Also, a quick update. There is a legal filing today in the Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively Me Too case.

Candace

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The first ever to be a Me Too case that I would say was orchestrated by a man, Ryan Reynolds. That is my take on that situation. But the court is going to post an audio only access for the press and the public to have access to an upcoming hearing regarding their protective order. I am so there. I will be covering it. Do not worry about it. I will be there.

Candace

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Candace

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Or you can simply visit AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. That's AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. Okay, let me see what you guys are saying very quickly. All righty, who do we have? Jandy writes, I actually caught it live. You're amazing. Always keeping you and your family in my thoughts and prayers. Sneaking from work really quick just to donate and say that. Jandy, thank you so much.

Candace

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That is so kind of you. Myla says, I have worked in the industry for 15 years and have seen many women throw themselves onto the casting couch for that leading role. They are not innocent. Oh, shocking. Do you think that's what happened with Mimi? Not what? Maybe you need to go back and watch her cry some more. Mia writes, love everything you expose. Kamala's not black. Brigitte is a man.

Candace

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Blake and Ryan are fake and everything is gay. Thank you. Alice writes, Candace is fab. Zadeh writes, congrats on 4 million subs. Candace well deserves. God bless you and always keep your faith. This person anonymously writes, as a woman who has been abducted and raped, you would never, and I mean never, reach out to that person, let alone reach out like this year after year, time and time again.

Candace

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You know what? I'm so happy you said that because I didn't want to then end up with a bunch of rape victims being like, no, that's just like that's protocol. That's what you do. You send emails, you try to see them, you try to be alone with them again in hotel rooms. I mean, I'm just from the school of hard knocks. I use a little bit of common sense.

Candace

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But I had that instinct that maybe people who have lived through rape, which is, by the way, a huge reason that I do this series and what I hate about the Me Too movement is it completely cheapens the word rape. So people that survive an abduction and a real rape and real sexual assaults have to contend with a movement of women who perhaps are engaging in something consciously. Perhaps.

Candace

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That list, that long list of women who found the cameras and spoke out and said that things happened and you don't really remember whether or not he denied it, that list significantly dwindled by the time we got into the courtroom. And then even when we were in the courtroom, it dwindled even more. And I'll tell you why.

Candace

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I'm not here to paint a picture about Mimi. She won. Don't want to get in trouble, but I'm just reading you the facts of this case and it's going to get even crazier, you guys. By the way, before we jump off, I wanted to let you know that We released an episode of Shot in the Dark for free because right now there's all of this talk about measles, measles, measles.

Candace

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And I was getting flooded with emails from parents saying, Candace, where is this episode? Because they're basically using another fear mongering campaign to force parents into agreeing, acquiescing. to their children getting a combination shot, measles, mumps, and rubella. And so we thought it was too important to keep it behind the paywall.

Candace

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We released episode 14 of A Shot in the Dark early and for free, available at canisowens.com. So if you're a parent and you're listening to all of this measles rhetoric, that will help you get a base understanding of even the history of measles and mumps and rubella in this country.

Candace

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And hopefully it will cause you to not be as concerned about this rhetoric, which will keep happening as more people wake up to what big pharma, And while you're there, obviously sign up for the book club. You can buy our book, Make Him a Sandwich, which is available for a pre-sale. Support us in our independent journalism, journalistic endeavor in any way that you can.

Candace

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We deeply appreciate it so that we can keep doing what we love to do. And we'll see you tomorrow.

Candace

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This is one of the very many compelling aspects of this case, how they were able to sort through the women who were just outright lying, meaning women who had definitively never even slept with Harvey Weinstein, some women who he alleges he never even met. from the women who had, at the very least, been intimate with him, okay? I'll tell you why.

Candace

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Because, of course, when people realize that someone's going down, if you were a struggling person who wanted to make a quick buck and you knew that this empire was going to crash, you might be willing to come in for a quick payday. And what better way to do that? You could just cry and cry and then describe something terrible that happened. Your honor...

Candace

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He made me fondle his testicles, you know, tears streaming down your face. And these sorts of moments happened, and Harvey's lawyers would give each other a look, a knowing smirk, a high five, realizing that, yeah, no one's going to believe this woman. And I'll tell you why. The answer to that is because Harvey Weinstein didn't have any testicles. He doesn't have any testicles.

Candace

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I told you guys this is a strange tale with many twists and turns, and this is just one of them. But what became a crucial element of the Harvey Weinstein case, something that Harvey probably had considered a curse when it happened to him back in 1999, wound up being something of a blessing to his very many court proceedings. I want you to check out this headline, okay?

Candace

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It reads, Harvey Weinstein's abnormal testicles are key focus of final arguments in trial. I am not kidding. This is real. And I'll tell you, the story goes that back in 1999, Harvey Weinstein was diagnosed with something known as Fournier's gangrene, okay? It is extremely rare, but a life-threatening infection that impacts the genitals. with a rapid tissue destruction.

Candace

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Essentially, what we're talking about is necrosis, right? It's necrosis. The tissues are dying. And I can show you this excerpt from a Variety article. It says, during the trial, prosecutors revealed to the jury that Weinstein underwent surgery in 1999 for Fournier's gangrene, which required doctors to remove some of his scrotum.

Candace

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That surgery caused pretty noticeable scarring because of an infection. His testicles were actually taken out from his scrotum and put into his inner thighs. So his testicles were removed and put into his inner thighs in 1999. I know, you're thinking, Candace, are you making this up? How could this be? Yes, that happened. So the list of credible allegations had significantly dwindled, okay?

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Because if there's one thing that I've realized throughout my career in politics and in the media, it's that there is this theater kid archetype that exists. It's real. People who dedicate a large portion of their lives to the pursuit of the camera, wanting to make it in Hollywood, wanting to make it as an actor or an actress. Maybe you start as a drama kid, right?

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And like I told you, really, this came down in New York to two women. As we told you, Harvey Weinstein was sentenced in 2020 to 23 years total in New York. But 20 of those years for criminal sexual assault in the first degree stemmed from accusations that were made from a production assistant who worked on Project Runway. Her name is Miriam, otherwise known as Mimi Haley. Okay.

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So 20 years, fellas, 20 years, ladies listening, you've got sons, you've got husbands, we've got brothers. It's got to be horrific, right? If we're throwing the book and we're saying, basically, die in prison, because that's what that means. You should die in prison, Harvey Weinstein. What she lived through must have been terrible.

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I'll tell you right off the bat that Mimi Haley was born in Helsinki in 1977 and she grew up in Sweden. So she was not an American citizen. That little tidbit will become somewhat relevant in a little bit. And the way that she was introduced to the public was through a lot of tears. It was a press conference in 2017. She announced her allegations against Harvey Weinstein.

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Next to none other than Gloria Allred. And I'm going to be honest with you guys. It's hard to listen to her recapping what Harvey put her through. So let's let's take a listen to Mimi.

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So you heard her here. She said, no, no, no. He was overpowering. This is how this happened to her. And by the way, Gloria Allred, I got to I got to give it to that woman. She has really perfected the craft of ambulance chasing. Right. Using press conferences to persuade the masses with a lot of sobbing. Right. And it doesn't really matter at that point whether or not what she says works.

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in the press conference is going to be the same thing that she says in the courtroom because people are paying attention to the press conference and probably not going to follow this into the courtroom.

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And I got to tell you that as detailed as that press conference seems, Mimi does in fact leave out some important details and she also edits some details when she gets on the stand, which we will get to. But the important thing to know is that Harvey was indicted by a grand jury in 2018 and Mimi Mimi's testimony was therefore taken sometime before then.

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But by the time that she hit the stand, she, in 2020, had edited that testimony a little bit. Even from the grand jury indictment to the stand, there were some things that had changed. She had included some epithets, which we'll get into. So first we should just get into how she and Harvey met. This is all according to Mimi. This is her story. She first met Harvey Weinstein back in 2004.

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I'm not sure, I'm not certain, and I will take your guys' opinions on this, that that thirst ever dies within them. And of course, I'm generalizing here, but I find that when I come across these people, now that we're older, they seem to forever be on a quest to the back of their minds for their big break. Like it could still happen even if they're in their 30s, their 40s, their 50s, their 60s.

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And then she approached him two years later in 2006 at the Cannes Film Festival because she was looking for work in the industry after her mentor, quote unquote mentor, famed London producer Michael White had suffered a stroke and lost his business. So that's her. You can see her. young, young and beautiful. And there she is with Michael White, a producer in London who she said became her mentor.

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Now, it's worth mentioning that by mentor, she means that after she met him once and they exchanged numbers, she visited him and decided to stay with him during that visit in London. And you can see she looks young, he looks quite old. Yeah, she was in her 20s, he was in her 60s.

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She told this, by the way, to Vanity Fair, that he then became a father figure to her and that they enjoyed a quote-unquote unconventional platonic relationship. Okay, that's how she spent her 20s beside that guy, Michael. Brushing shoulders because he was a big producer with Kate Moss, the Rolling Stones' Princess Diana at her...

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father figure's house, and then she went on to become his personal assistant. Like I said, he then had a stroke, okay? Her father figure boss man had a stroke, and so with Michael White no longer able to provide that kind of support, she decided to perhaps look for another father figure.

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I'm not sure how to contextualize that, but she approached Harvey Weinstein at the Cannes Film Festival in 2006. Now, I want to be clear that in 2006... Mimi would have been just about to turn 30 years old. OK, in other words, she was not a Hollywood spring chicken. I think that's really important. You've seen throughout this podcast.

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I've always tried to stress what a woman's age is because it's important. It's important to differentiate between someone who's, you know, 17 years old, someone who's 15 years old, someone who is 30 years old. a fully formed adult woman because it changes the context or it makes you, I guess, think about how helpless and unsure and uncertain they were. And yeah, Mimi was about to turn 30.

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That's where the story begins with Harvey Weinstein. She was not in her early 20s anymore. So her story goes that Harvey invited her after she approached him to meet him at his company's hotel in Cannes, the Majestic Hotel. And right away, it was a horrible experience, okay? She was humiliated because she got to his hotel room And they have a little bit of conversation.

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And then he does this really crazy thing. He asks her for a massage. And she's confused because she's thinking she's coming up here to talk about potentially getting a job, talking about career aspects. And she instead offers to call downstairs to get him a massage. And then he turns it around and he says that he instead wants to give her a massage because And she's humiliated.

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Like I said, she testified that she was so humiliated that when she left that hotel room, she broke down crying. Yeah, that's not what she was expecting when she went into this guy's hotel room. which is why what happens next gets interesting.

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Now, her memory is super fuzzy on how exactly it happened, but she then gets a temporary job on Project Runway, which was at that time being produced by the Weinstein Company. And to be clear, they had already been filming this series. They were deep into production and reminding you again that she is not an American citizen. So he hooks her up with this job again, Who knows?

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She doesn't know that I speak to his assistant. I don't know why. I don't remember any of this. And she begins working for as a production assistant on the show for several weeks. And she's paid in cash because her visa did not allow her to work in the United States. Shooting then wraps up.

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And so the question then becomes what happens to these individuals when it never arrives? Okay, I want you to think about that. What happens if there's a woman who spends a decade or even more of her life trying to make it in Hollywood only to realize that she's failed?

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And by the way, while she's living in New York, while she moved to New York for this opportunity, she's living with a friend of hers in the East Village. And after shooting raps, she reaches out to Harvey to thank him for the opportunity. So despite this really uncomfortable, humiliating experience in his hotel room, she gets this job. Then she just wants to thank him for the opportunity.

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And he invites her for a drink at the Mercer Hotel. And she describes that experience as very pleasant. She met him on June 26th, 2026, at the lobby, in the lobby of the Mercer Hotel, and she testified that he was, quote, very respectful, even charming. He offered at that time to have her return to Project Runway the following season.

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And the next day on the 27th, she's going to his office to see somebody else. And she then also stops by his office and he gives her a book that she should read. And then he offers to give her a ride home to her apartment after that meeting at his offices. And he also says to her, like, you should come on my private jet. We can go to Paris the next week. We can attend this fashion show.

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All right, so everything in the world is just ridiculous. It's pointedly ridiculous, I would say. I mean, I'm no longer believing the things I'm saying. I feel like I am now lying to the public when I cover these things because we're just reaching levels of absurdity that are offending my sensibilities, right?

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And has referred to some of the historically documented atrocities of the Holocaust, such as Joseph Mengele's experiments on twins, as bizarre propaganda.

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So she writes that and it's fascinating that she included, like she asked me these questions and I gave her such concrete answers to debunk these lies in the media and she chose not to publish it because her job was to smear me, not to clarify any of the smears that had been written about me.

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But that part about the Kabbalah was really interesting because on the phone call, she suddenly gets very weird and she's like, I read on the ADL's website, I couldn't find a source for it, but I read that you think Judaism is for pedophiles. And I said, you couldn't find a source for it because I've never said that. I was like, that would be foolish, absolutely foolish. I'm Christian.

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What are the first five books of the Bible? It's Judaism. I was like, of course I never said that. And she said, so do you think they mischaracterized your statements? I said, no, I think they outright lied. She's like, And I read two books. I read a book by David Bacon, who is a formerly, he is passed away now, but he was a Jewish professor who taught at Harvard, the University of Chicago.

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And he wrote a book about Sigmund Freud and the Jewish mystical tradition. And then I told her, and more importantly, is this Jewish Harvard graduate, Jeffrey Ma, I'm saying his middle name wrong, Moussaif Masson, who wrote this really incredible book that is a part of our book club—we're going to read it this year—called The Assault on Truth, Freud's Suppression of the Seduction Theory.

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And I said, no one, in my view, has more authority to speak on Sigmund Freud than this guy because he was hired as the assistant director, soon to become the director of Sigmund Freud Archive Center. He worked with Sigmund Freud's daughter. Anna Freud was very close to her.

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And while he was working at that center, he learned German so that he could read Sigmund Freud's notes that had never been released to the public. And he basically discovers while reading this note that Sigmund Freud had created these theories not because he actually believed that children were attracted to their parents, but because he was covering for pedophiles.

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Like these children were actually being assaulted by their parents. And I told her this on the phone. I literally said, here's the book. Here's the author. And here are the people that have connected those dots for me. And I think we need to go back and discuss Sigmund Freud. And she didn't include any of that in the article. She just republishes the lies, which is amazing.

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But it's going to get even more amazing. So then I'm like, you know, I'm pregnant. OK. And I decided that I had time to just kind of obsessively. All I like to do is research, research this this writer, because why would you just outright smear me when you could have just clarified what I was speaking about and included what I said?

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And I find this article, you guys, of what really perturbed her about this Sigmund Freud thing. And it's an article that she has published. She had previously published regarding her childhood friend who was convicted as a child molester. And I'm going to read from it directly because I think this is really important for all of us to recognize who are the people that are in control.

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So she's publishing an article saying my views are just so contemptible. And here's what she thinks. Here's what she still thinks. And now I'm going to read you her views. This is a first person article that she published in Kashmir magazine.

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She wrote a few months ago, upon looking at a former elementary school photo and doing a cursory Google search of former classmates, I discovered that a former childhood friend of mine who I'll call Sam, a boy that I hadn't spoken to in more than 10 years, a boy who used to zip to school on his razor scooter every morning, a boy who went to my bat mitzvah, is now a convicted child molester.

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Partly out of morbid curiosity and partly out of an attempt to reconcile the floppy haired boy that I once wrote and in sync parody lyrics with and the person that he turned out to be. I spent many late nights combing through his court documents. I learned that he had molested his half sister, a girl I remembered as a baby in her pretty mother's stroller on multiple occasions.

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I learned that he was part of a child porn file sharing community. And that the feds busted him at his mom's house. He is currently serving a five-year sentence at a penitentiary in Texas. The rest of this article is not spent speaking about his victims or speaking about his sister. It's then spent trying to convince the readers. I'm going to read it verbatim.

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I don't need to take her out of context here. That the problem is that we aren't trying to find solutions for him, for the person who molested a child and victimized other children via child pornography. The article is entitled Could Child Sex Robots Cure Pedophilia? like robots that look like children that would allow pedophiles to get out their frustrations.

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So what I thought about earlier this week was, She then quotes a person named Ron Arkin, who's the director of a tech lab, who says that childlike robots could be used for pedophiles the way that methadone is used to treat drug addicts.

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She then, going back into her first person, says in recommending that this future technology be used in a controlled research setting, Arkin's cautiousness is understandable given how quick our society is to demonize pedophiles as well as demonize those who suggest any mode of treatment for them short of execution.

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And I said, no, why? And he said, then why is he in your belly? It's just like, I was so tired. I looked over at my husband and I was like, I am not prepared or well equipped to answer this question, but I just love his logic. He just thinks now he's like this ever expanding stomach. And you keep saying my brother's in there. Like, did you eat my brother? It's just amazing.

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She then says, the aversion to discussing the potential reality of child sex robots is also understandable. Without a doubt, the idea of pedophiles having the opportunity to have wide-eyed, pigtailed child sex dolls sent to their homes the same way one would a bag of groceries or a bunch of books off of Amazon is incredibly horrifying.

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But in reading my former friend's story and in reading the stories of other pedophiles, as well as This American's Life's segment, I've become convinced that we need to stop getting caught up in our knee-jerk reactions to adults having sex with children. She literally writes this. Like, the problem is us.

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We need to stop getting caught up in our knee-jerk reactions to adults having sex with children, however despicable we might find it, and start focusing on rational solutions. When we talk about pedophilia... which is defined as a predominant attraction to prepubescent children, we need to get two things straight. Not all pedophiles are child molesters. That's one.

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And two, pedophilia is not a psychological aberration that can be easily tweaked. Many researchers have argued it's actually a fixed sexual orientation. This is an uncomfortable possibility for many to acknowledge.

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But the fact is, is that just as you hit a certain age and you knew that you were attracted to girls or boys or neither or both, pedophiles at a certain age and they knew they were attracted to children. Like all sexual orientations, pedophilia is immutable and it's unlikely to change with medicine or therapy. Then she goes to and she's going to make us feel really good about her friend.

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She really has this guy who went to her bat mitzvah. Clearly, she I don't know if she had a crush on him, but like this is her emotions are spent on him. She writes there is no evidence. She admits there is no evidence that child sized sex bots or virtual child porn is any more effective as a means of curbing sexual desires towards children. But there's also no evidence that it isn't either.

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And we need to start thinking about pedophilia in a rational rather than an emotional light. When I first heard about Sam and the horrific things he did, I found it impossible to reconcile that shy, floppy haired, razor scooting 10 year old that I knew with a 20 something bastion of evil that he'd become.

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And I wondered what kind of trauma he must have experienced in his youth for him to have become such a monster. But from reading the court documents, what I came to understand is that there was a third person. This person was the shy and underdeveloped for his age. This person wanted desperately to forge connections with anyone his own age, male or female. And he was intimate with both.

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This person was lonely. This person at one point realized that he had this feeling inside of him. And this person at another point made a terrible decision to act on it. And as horrible as this might sound, I don't feel anger towards him or even disgust.

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I just feel so incredibly sad for him and for all the little shy, floppy-haired boys like him who recognized this darkness inside of them and knew the futility of trying to make it go away. Ladies and gentlemen, that is E.J. Dixon, the young woman who called me and is now signaling to the public that it's my views that are problematic. It's my view.

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Why would people watch Candace Owens and her views? She's so problematic because she has an issue with Sigmund Freud. And no, actually, this is very problematic. This woman is a senior writer, okay? The senior writer for both New York Magazine... and The Cut. She also has bylines in The New York Times and was apparently an unproblematic person for the New York magazine, The Cut.

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But I have to tell you, this toddler logic, it makes so much more sense to me, in my opinion, than Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds logic as it comes to PR and all the filings that they're doing. Because like I said, I don't even know what's real anymore. I don't even know where to begin, okay? But this is an actual headline right now in Variety. It reads...

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She doesn't hide her beliefs. She has this weird way, as I started going back through her work, of sort of fusing the topics of sex and children in her public persona. For example, when she was seven months pregnant, she opened up to The Cut about how she was suddenly really into watching, quote unquote, terrible gang bang porn. This is it. This is actually published in The Cut.

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First and foremost, Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds have hired former CIA agents with a proven track record of lying to the public, gaslighting the public. Also, they moved to do this within the same 24 hours that I started randomly getting attacked for my coverage of Blake Lively. And then I just found out more about this very interesting background of E.J. Dixon.

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EJ Dixon found herself with a libido of a teenage boy, including a desire to watch hardcore pornography, the kind of terrifying gang bangs that she'd never seen or saw before. And by the way, this is the tip of the iceberg, because I just thought it was just too gross to keep going through the stuff that she promotes and the stuff that she says publicly. And I'm getting the feeling that it's,

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Really, my staunch views against pedophilia, even if a pedophile attended your bad mitzvah when he was young, that is what really upset her. I want to be clear. I could show you much more on that stuff. But the point of all of this is so that you understand that these are the people. These are the sorts of people. These are the morality.

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This is the morality that guides the people that write hit pieces. So whether they work for the CIA and they have no problem lying, whether they work for one of the CIA's satellite publishers and they have no issues lying, what they share in common is, in my view, just immorality. Like, they are just happy to do and say whatever and feel nothing. And they always have this...

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perverse relationship with the truth. Like they feel they root for the bad guy. Again, nowhere in this piece she talked about his little sister again. It's just like, I feel really sad for Sam, not his little sister that he molested. Anyways, you guys, we have obtained the audio of Ari Emanuel, which we're going to get to. We also have to get to Trump slapping down Zelensky alongside J.D. Vance.

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Blake Lively hires CIA alum for crisis PR in legal battle with Justin Baldoni. And there are a lot of implications here. And I love this story simply because it combines what I love most, politics and culture. And I want to explain a lot to you. We learn in this article that that Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds have moved to hire a PR crisis manager with deep government ties.

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So you will remember, I think it was last week, we covered this absurd subpoena that was filed by Blake Lively's team. They were asking for basically every text message and every phone call for every person that they are suing dating back two and a half years. It was a ridiculous request. They knew they were never going to get it. And I said, why would they do this?

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Why would they file something that no court would ever grant in a million years? And I said, probably because you can literally go back. I predicted this. I said, probably they are going to do this because they think the public is stupid.

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And so when the judge come back and says no, they're going to go to the press and they're going to say, why doesn't Justin Baldoni want to give us every single communication and text message that he's ever had for the last two and a half years? He must be hiding something. Like what? And guess what? That's exactly what happened. The judge slapped down that absurd request.

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And there's a little more nuance there and we'll get into it. But quite literally, this is what the spokesperson for Lively said. They said, quote, what is Brian Friedman hiding? That's what they said to Deadline after the ruling was made public.

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They continued, quote, after promising to release all the receipts, Friedman ran into court to keep secret the phone records of who Baldoni, Heath Sarowitz, Nathan Wallace and Abel were calling during their retaliatory campaign.

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So instead of getting these records from the phone carriers the way that we initially requested, the judge has ruled that if we simply submit more specific requests, we will be able to get the records we are seeking, the spokesperson added. Today, we will do that. And we are submitting those requests directly to the defendants involved. And we look forward to seeing the records.

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I mean, it is weird how dumb they think the public is. Like, what what do you mean? Why on earth would you be allowed to see every single message that someone has sent for two and a half years predating? Even the timeframe that these people were their PR agents. What are you talking about? You're looking for stuff so you can embarrass them so you can know things about them.

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I would never in a million years be like, yeah, you can subpoena every single tech measures that I have with my sisters and my friends and my husband and whoever it is. Anyways, I'll take you through the judge's ruling because it is actually a kind of a split ruling, obviously very much in the favor of Justin Baldoni. But I'll tell you this so that you know what happens next.

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So Judge Lehman writes Wayfarer Studios, Justin Baldoni and Jamie Heath moved to quash the subpoenas issued to their cellular providers, AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile for the reasons following. The motion is granted in part and denied in part. Lively served the subpoenas on February 12th, 2025.

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The subpoenas requested all documents concerning ingoing and outgoing calls or text messages related to telephone numbers belonging to Wayfarer parties and related individuals within the time period of December 1st, 2022 to the present, included but not limited to call logs, She wants to know even where you were when you sent the text to your doctor about the rash on your child's buttocks.

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As her legal battle with Justin Baldoni escalates, she's quietly working with Nick Shapiro, the CIA's former deputy chief of staff and senior advisor to former director, John Brennan. So this guy, high up, just about as high up as you could possibly get if he is the deputy chief of staff to John Brennan, who was the former CIA director, who makes me very nervous. I'm going to tell you why.

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Like, that's what they essentially were asking for, okay? Now, the telephone numbers of the Wayfarer parties and related individuals are identified in the subpoenas. Then they say that what happens next was that on February 14th, the Wayfarer parties obviously came back and said, no, they moved to squash it. And they said, because what you're asking for is, quote, overly broad and invasive.

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So the court then ordered that they both meet and say, come back with something logical that you can agree to. After the parties conferred, Lively agreed to remove all documents and to remove the request for locational data and to clarify that the subpoenas seek only call logs and text logs.

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reflect non-content and numerical information regarding ingoing and outgoing text messages the wayfarer parties then came back and said no they shouldn't even have a right to that because some people are not involved at all in this lawsuit why don't you just request basically the numbers um of people that are like our communications but why would you have third parties why would you be able to see what's going on between them and so the judge came back and he said um

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Yeah, they objected to the fact that the phone numbers with for anyone with whom that they converse with Lively argued that the purpose of those subpoenas is to lead to admissible admissible evidence regarding communications, not only for the defendants, but among the larger network of individuals who perpetuated the untraceable campaign against Miss Lively.

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Now, the judge came back and he said that the court must weigh the relevance of the probative value of the documents that were being sought against the privacy interests. And he felt that the subpoenas of the Wayfarer Party's phone records, even as Blake Lively had modified the request,

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did not meet those standards, that the request was overly intrusive and disproportionate to the needs of the case. And here's where it gets funny because he says this. He says, "...even though Lively has narrowed her request to exclude the content of calls or messages, the phone records themselves will still contain sensitive information regarding doctors, psychologists, or even acquaintances."

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Lively has identified no means to segregate those numbers that may have some relevance to her case from numbers that would have no relevance to her case. And here's the biggest part. She mainly argues that the subpoenas will help her identify the larger network of individuals who perpetuated this campaign against her

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But according to Lively's own complaint, this negative campaign did not begin until August of 2024. And then he cites her own filings and says, ma'am, you filed a lawsuit saying, quote, that the beginning of the plan to destroy Lively's reputation began in August of 2024. Now you're requesting to see everything dating back from 2022.

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He writes, it is therefore unclear how communications to and from Wayfarer parties in 2022 would reveal individuals who participated in the campaign. That is the kindest way that a judge can say to you that your lawyers are stupid. It's like very he's like being nicer. He's like, your lawyers are really stupid.

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Because you guys started this lawsuit and you said that this campaign began in August 2024. And now you're suddenly asking me to see text messages dating back to 2022. You are not able to hold a logical thought. But guess what? I, as a judge, I am able to hold logical thoughts. We're going to slap that down. You obviously cannot do that.

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You can now you can, however, and this is where he grants them the request. You can, however, receive the communications regarding not just Wayfarer parties, but potentially third parties they were communicating with. from that time of August 2024 going forward. So they're basically going to get four months of messages from August 2024 until December in 2020 of messages, including third parties.

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They felt that that was relevant, that she could, in fact, see who they're texting and who those individuals who they potentially could have been coordinating with that are not parties to the suit, as long as it is people that are mentioned in the suit. So she's mentioned some third party individuals like she mentioned Jed Wallace. He was not actually part of the suit.

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So apparently her legal team says they've given a quote to Variety. They say the litigation team for Miss Lively retained Mr. Shapiro to advise on the legal communications strategy for for the ongoing sexual harassment and retaliation lawsuit occurring in the Southern District of New York. OK, that's what Wilkie, Farr and Gallagher, that's the excuse that they're giving to the public.

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Well, she will be able now to receive his messages for four months to be able to see if phone calls took place for four months. And of course, they did because they hired him. So I don't know what they're going to be able to discern from those communications, but he has granted that order. So it's really a positive movement, I would say, obviously, for Justin Baldoni's team.

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They basically got everything they wanted and they're just going to have to, which they were willing to do, comply with a limited scope subpoena. Okay, now we have to get to this leaked audio of Ari Emanuel and Freakonomics. Remember we showed you, I think it was yesterday, how they pretended that something happened with the audio and we don't know what it is.

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I now understand why it is that they did not want this audio to see the light of day. And you're going to hear something that Ari Emanuel says that is going to be extremely problematic for his clients who he's, quote unquote, ride or die for. You're going to hear him say that. And yeah, it's going to be it's definitely going into the lawsuit.

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It definitely proves the point that Justin Baldoni was hurt financially. by what Blake Lively did with the rumors and colluding with the New York Times that he lost money and he lost opportunity. So this clip is rather long. It is three minutes. I feel like we should let you hear it in its entirety. My team cleaned it up. Again, it's a crappy audio. We cleaned it up the best that we could.

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So you might have to strain your ears a little bit. But here is Ari Emanuel on stage, the Freakonomics podcast. Take a listen.

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So I'm going to slow this down to you and debunk that just in general, in case some of you guys are not up to date on the CIA's relationship with the mainstream media in general. OK, so you should understand this before we draw the necessary conclusions from this really bizarre move.

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So that last portion is the smoking gun. Don't forget that Justin Baldoni is alleging that he lost opportunities, that he was fired from WME because I told you the rumors were, and I told you to take it to the bank, that Ryan Reynolds went in there and said he wanted him dropped from WME. And somebody at WME who just outed himself made it happen.

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And that's Ari Emanuel, the CEO of WME, is now bragging that he dropped them. And he says his reason is because he's ride or die. I remember Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds have already denied. They said, oh, they had nothing to do with WME dropping him. This just proves that they lied. So Ari, in his maybe suffering from the same narcissistic condition as Ryan Reynolds, became braggadocious.

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He needed to be like, yeah, I'm so powerful, Justin Baloney, Baldoni. And he just said too much. And this would have been why they would have realized that this tape was not a good idea for their legal strategy.

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You can't play the victim and pretend you had nothing to do with him being fired and then be like, yeah, I fired them because he's ride or die as soon as I found out about it and they told me about it. Yeah. What you did directly led to the consequence of him losing a contract or of him being a client of the biggest agency in Hollywood, which is WME.

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So Ari Emanuel, like I said, even these billionaires just get real gutsy and they start acting like gangsters. He sounds like a gangster when he's talking, right? He has no respect for Baldoni, no respect for the process, and basically is saying everyone online needs to shut up. And we're not exactly shutting up and we are following all of this.

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And obviously, if you are Brian Friedman and you see that this has leaked, you're like, yes, this is exactly what we needed. We needed to hear this audio. And there's now no way they can deny this claim. There's no way that this claim gets denied that what they did hurt Justin Baldoni's career and hurt his reputation because listen to what somebody with that much power is now saying.

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So it is a fact, an absolute historical fact that can never be wiped away, that the CIA, after JFK was shot in the 60s, put journalists in the mainstream media on their payroll. And they did this in order to control the narrative, right? Which is another way of saying to gaslight the public, to stop the public from asking certain questions.

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And he's saying it like it's true about Justin Baldoni. I know them. I've known them for years. They wouldn't lie about this. And yeah, I don't like this guy. Baloney Baldoni. Yeah, he's hurt in Hollywood. He's blacklisted in Hollywood as effectively what something like that means. All right, guys, want to get to talking, speaking to you about Seven Weeks Coffee. Because, you know, I love them.

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So head to 7weekscoffee.com and use code Candice today. We have to speak about this Zelensky meeting. I don't know where you guys stand. Can't wait to hear the chat. I am just so over the never-ending wars. I have been against Zelensky since day one. We jumped out of Afghanistan after decades of sons and daughters being killed and with nothing to show. Nothing to show.

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It was billions of dollars given to a region. We have no idea what was happening. It was just a money laundering operation. What is the explanation for Afghanistan? We've got nothing, literally. What were they doing? I know that some... People were having to guard their poppy fields. Was it just a way to create the opioid crisis? Was this for big pharma? We're never going to get any answers.

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But literally two weeks after we got out of Afghanistan, we jumped into being involved because the most important thing ever was for us to defend Ukrainian borders, even though the majority of Americans... Cannot point out Michigan on a map.

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Suddenly everybody was like, no, Ukraine is it, and didn't really know the background of our involvement and the color revolution that we launched in 2014 in Ukraine, installing essentially someone that was controlled by America, controlled by NATO, to be a leader in that region. We caused the... regional issues there. We did. NATO, America, we caused those issues dating back to 2014.

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No matter what anybody tells you, that is the truth. OK, we staged a coup. And so Zelensky is just a person who is a puppet. He is not a real leader in that region. And he has taken billions from American taxpayers and watching him disrespect us by showing up. He has done Vanity Fair. He has done Vogue twice. He has done the cover of Forbes. He was on the Lex Friedman podcast, okay?

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And every time he comes to the White House, he can't even be bothered to put on a suit. So you can't afford groceries. You can't afford to fill up your tank. And he doesn't care. He He's just like, oh, well, you know what? I'm just going to dress in my sweatpants, my military fatigues because he's a propagandist. He's supposed to be selling to you like he's like on the front lines.

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There's a lot of speculation that our CIA may have been involved in that assassination. But I'm not saying that. I'm saying other people are saying that. Wink, wink. Okay, so one of those journalists and publications that was put on the CIA payroll was none other than the New York Times, which was published at that time by Arthur Sulzberger.

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He thinks he's in a movie. And that's because before becoming the president, he was literally just an actor. He was like a Netflix actor, so to speak. Right. He was on a very popular television show in Ukraine where he played. I'm not even kidding. I would talk about The Matrix. He played an actor. that went on to become president. And then he was an actor who went on to become president.

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You can't even believe these things. It's true, okay? And so that's his goal. He's an actor. He's supposed to wear outfits. He's with tons of A-list celebrities. You're in a war, and thousands and thousands of men are dying, and you're making time to do the cover of Vogue twice? Vanity Fair? Guys, you have to realize how unbelievably ridiculous and wrong that is. And so it has been nice.

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So soon as this guy gets out of the car, like he's just a buddy to Trump and he's just going there to pick up some more money. I mean, he actually got angry when someone suggested that we cut off these welfare checks to Ukraine. He's like, no, you pay for me. You pay for me and do whatever I want.

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This is the first time where he went to the White House and Trump looked down at him and was like, what are you wearing? I'm going to show you like he makes a little smart comment like, oh, OK, show some respect. Take a listen.

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That's good enough. So Zelensky has always, to me, been giving Veruca salt. Don't care how I want it now. You know, don't care how I want you guys to get back to work. You're going to keep funding my war, which even AI will tell you they never had a means of winning. This was just a never ending money laundering opportunity. Get money out of the taxpayers dollars.

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And then they go, oh, we lost it. Pentagon doesn't know where all of the billions of dollars went. That's just what keeps happening all the time. And I have been calling this out since 2022. OK, before it was cool or popular to recognize that we were getting got like we were just getting got in the Ukrainian laundromat over there. Here's my tweet in 2022.

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I literally wrote, I cannot stop laughing at how Zelensky always intentionally styles himself like he just came out of the trenches as a recurring piece of propaganda. He just has no time to put on a suit, you guys. He's just so busy doing hero things with your money. He can't be bothered to wear a suit.

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There's no reason he can't put on a suit other than the fact that he's trying to sell to the public that he is on the front lines. It's a movie role for him. And that drives me insane. So you have to imagine how absolutely giddy I was when I saw this clip circulating from C-SPAN of J.D. Vance, Trump, and Zelensky in the Oval Office because Trump is looking at him like, you're like a bratty kid.

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You don't even have the respect. Even you knew... During Christmas time, when you were going or it was your birthday and you were going to see your grandparents, you knew they were going to write a check and they're going to slip $100 or $20 in there. You knew to come correct, right? You knew to have some respect because your grandparents are going to give you a little bit of money.

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So the Sulzberger family are the ones that currently own and operate and have operated the New York Times for a very long time. And again, we're not in conspiracy land. This is right up on Wikipedia, pulling this up for you. We're looking at the... entries for Operation Mockingbird. Like I said, you can look this up by yourself. This is not coming from Candace Owens. It's just a historical fact.

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You're going to act surprised that there's money in there. You're going to say thank you. That's not him. That's not Zelensky. He's Veruca Salt. Don't care how. I want it now. I want the whole world. I want to wear them like braids in my hair and I don't want to share them. OK, that is Zelensky.

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And so today, for the first time in four years, in my view, he got the treatment that he deserves from the American people, not even the American people, the American representatives, J.D. Vance and President Donald Trump. Take a listen to this meeting.

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Zelensky needs a spanking. He needs an old fashioned spanking. Go outside, get the switch back when they used to do it in the day before we were coddling toddlers. That is toddler behavior to know. Just wear a suit. You're going to ask for money. Wear a suit. Have some respect. Do not litigate matters in front. Could you just imagine the audacity of your child like speaking? He is a welfare child.

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He is ghetto. OK, people, you know, I say ghetto and the media always lie about that. Oh, Candace calls black people ghetto. There are people all around the world who act ghetto, and he is a welfare child, okay? Make no mistake. I don't care where he's getting his military fatigues, which he apparently has never-ending supply of.

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Him coming out with this handout and acting like a bratty child should be treated in that manner, okay? That's how toddlers, you need to put them in their place and remind them, okay, adults are speaking. You don't use that tone with me. So I say to my son, you don't use that tone with me. You don't speak to adults like that. Why? Because you're a child and it's inappropriate.

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And it reads here that in a 1977 Rolling Stone magazine article, The CIA and the Media, reporter Carl Bernstein expanded upon the church committee's report and wrote that more than 400 U.S. press members had secretly carried out assignments for the CIA in including New York Times publisher Arthur Hayes-Solsberger, columnist and political analyst Stuart Alsop, and Time magazine, okay?

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And that's how I felt watching him. I'm like, who are you? Okay. And he's lucky it wasn't me in there. He's lucky it wasn't me in there because I promise you, if I was in there and he was talking to me like that for taking money from the mouths of my family, my family's out there. They can't put gas in their tank. And you're over here coming here in your sweatpants. Oh, it would have been over.

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It would have been over. This is why I just do this from home because I can't I can't be out there dealing with men acting like that little man child that he is. And so I was happy to see this. And by the way, the best part was that Ukrainian's ambassador, who probably is just his babysitter, who probably just has to write down the lines he's supposed to remember and saw this happening.

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Look at her face as she's watching this correspondence in the Oval Office.

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Dang, my child just do not know how to act. I told him to just say these three things and he's out of control right now. And we're about to lose all this money. And I can't believe he couldn't just pull it together.

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And I just have to call out the hero here, the reporter Brian Glenn of Real America's Voice, because nothing has been more real and more American and more representative of our voice than him straight up asking Zelensky about this little outfit that he's wearing. Take a listen.

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And of course, like all the rest of the leaders, like Emmanuel Macron, what is his background in? Drama club, theater. And so for him, like I said, it is a costume that he's wearing now. He gets up and he's like, how can I look like I'm a military guy that's playing a role? This is why he hangs out with Sean Penn. What he desperately wants to be is a Hollywood actor.

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It's why he spends so much time with Hollywood actors. He wants Ari Emanuel to be his agent. OK, these are just the facts. If you've been paying attention, these are the facts. And I am over it. I do not care. Piers Morgan jumped into it and was like, well, Elon Musk doesn't wear a suit in the White House. Guess what? Elon Musk isn't taking billions of dollars away from the taxpayer.

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Do you understand the difference here? And listen, if you guys in Europe, because you guys love this war so much because you have an aging population that's still high on what I would refer to as Cold War propaganda. Like these are the kids, this boomer generation that grew up and like in the way that we had fire drills, You got to think about this. They had nuclear drills. OK.

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And the kids would get under their desks and they'd be like, oh, Russia's going to bomb you. Russia's going to nuclear bomb us. And if you get under your desk, this is going to save you. Pointily ridiculous, completely crazy. But obviously it's stuck with this generation because they are so ridiculous when on the topic of Russia. It's like Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

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We got to be afraid. I'm not afraid of Russia. OK. I have an understanding that they have a smaller GDP than California. This whole idea that they're trying to recreate the Soviet Union is a nonsense. It is propaganda. It is stupid. It is beyond stupid. It is literally just a way to keep people fearful. It is CIA propaganda. Because what's really happening...

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is we're expanding into their territory, guys. Take a look at what the EU is. Take a look at what NATO is. It's military people that are on the border of Russia's country, not the other way around. Russia is not in Mexico. They're not in Canada. I don't care. I want nothing to do with this nonsense. You think Putin bad? You fund it. You fund Zelensky. You be his never-ending pocketbook.

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You love that, Piers Morgan? Do it. You love that United Kingdom? Do it. You think that this is just forever want to be his granddad? Fine. I have no issue with that. But the American people are tired of it. And I have to tell you, we are tired of being the pocketbook to the world.

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especially while our countries are in deterioration, when we look around and we have all of these issues and we can't even get like, you know, things to look nice, the streets to look clean everywhere. Crime is rampant in inner cities. And you keep telling us, I have to care about this little small man who doesn't have the decency to put on a suit. Pass. Miss me entirely with this.

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So Trump then gave a statement. On the meeting, he tweeted this. He tweeted, He disrespected the United States of America and its cherished Oval Office. He can come back when he is ready for peace. Donald J. Trump. And then Zelensky replied with this on Twitter about the visit. Thank you, America. Thank you for your support. Thank you for your visit.

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And so it just goes on to say that Bernstein documented the way in which the overseas branches of major U.S. news agencies had for many years served as the eyes and the ears of Operation Mockingbird. So you can look into this yourself. Again, I want to stress that the Sulzberger family still owns and operates the New York Times. And why is that relevant?

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Thank you, POTUS, Congress and the American people. Ukraine needs just and lasting peace. And we are working exactly for that. OK, so it looks like his ambassador took the phone and just said, listen, you're done. You're done for today. Go take a shower or sleep. You fumbled the ball greatly.

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All right, guys, before I read some of your comments and your opinions on this, the average person today is feeling the financial strain more than ever. Expenses are up, wages are not keeping pace, and many people are finding it nearly impossible to make ends meet with the little left over.

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Talk to American Financing today and take control of your financial future. Call 800-795-1210. Again, that's 800-795-1210. or you can visit AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. Again, that's AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. All right, let's hear what you guys are saying. I see some people putting Ukrainian flags in the chat. Rose writes, retirement day.

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Today, after 35 years in Buffalo public school system, I went out with a bang because I believe in truth. You can always give us the truth. Thank you so much. And congratulations. I can only imagine the things that you have seen with 35 years of public school system, probably deterioration, by the way, speaking of things that are just moving downward in this country.

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The education system has moved downward in the last 35 years. And so thank you for your contributions and and trying to correct the ship. S. Wrights says, Hi, Candice. Missed the first part of this live, but loved your take on Zelensky. You inspired me to get closer to God as a Muslim and keep writing as I study dentistry. I hope one day that I will write something that you enjoy. I hope so, too.

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And definitely, I just want you to know that I'm terrified of dentists. It's like a thing. I try not to go. I literally just everything. But I love orthodontists, which is weird. I will spend so much time in an orthodontist chair. I have to be kicked out of orthodontists because they're just like, I don't know what you want me to do for you. I just like it. It's weird.

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Joseph writes, if Taylor Swift fans are Swifties, are we candies? That's a very good question. Are you candies? You might be candies. I'm going to have to get back to you on that, Joseph. Brittany writes, congratulations on 4 million subs. Yes, guys, we did it. 4 million subs. I'm so excited about that. We started this in mid-June of last year, and we had 1.3 million, and now we're at 4 million.

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And I am so grateful to all of you guys for making this happen. I mean, that wasn't even a goal that we had, and we absolutely smashed that anyways. And that's the first time I've ever had 4 million subs on YouTube. Never even had that on my prior channel at a prior network. Brittany writes, that was what you said. So congrats on four million subs.

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Because there is absolutely no evidence that Project Mockingbird has ever been discontinued. But there is plenty of evidence to suggest that it's still ongoing. OK, remember, I said to you, journalists behave like hitmen. You just we just watch this with the Justin Baldoni case. They just sort of take out, smear and destroy the reputations of people that they don't like.

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And I can't wait to get sucked into another web of craziness starting on Monday. Thank you for making all of us conspiracy theorists, quote unquote. Christina writes, Candice, what do you think is going on with the stringing along of the release of the Epstein files? I'm a bit disappointed and I find it slightly alarming of the promises being made and the promises not being kept.

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I gave my take on this yesterday. Christina, if you go back and watch it in the comments or I think we actually covered it, but we're never going to see it. because too many powerful people are involved in it. And, and also it implicates Israel and we never see any files that could potentially implicate Israel. That's my take on it. So put it out of your mind. It's never going to happen.

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Hilda writes deep down. We always knew that we were being lied to. Now we have access to everything, giving them no room for lies. You do an amazing job at making them look like clowns facts. Congratulations on 4 million. Yeah. And this is why they hate me. This is why someone as creepy and weird as EJ, um, write these sorts of articles because now we have a way to get around the mainstream media.

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And I'm giving you the documents. You can go fact check this yourself. I don't consider myself to be an authority on this stuff. I consider you guys to be my colleagues and we're all researching and we're learning together. And if we get something wrong, we can pivot and we can say, okay, that was wrong. We covered this last week. Here's how we can patch that and fix it. And I just think the era of

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that's what you want to call it, of people looking up to reporters as if they're honest and truthful and non-biased is just completely over.

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Right and left, we know that that is just not the circumstance and that it's going to require us to start thinking critically and to continue to think critically, even about the people that you follow like me, like just back check stuff yourself, make sure everything is real. And yeah, I think that's all that we can really offer.

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I'm equally as excited to embark on the Harvey journey beginning next week. So get fired up, you guys. It's going to be, you're not even going to know how to process it. Anyways, thank you guys so much. Go to KennethSowens.com, buy yourself a book, support independent journalists, make him a sandwich available on sale now. You can also sign up for the book club, which is going to make E.J.

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Dixon cry when we get to this book, The Assault on Truth. She's going to call you guys anti-Semitic. Yeah, I'm done. It's you guys. You guys are Adolf Hitler, not me anymore. Once you say anything bad about the cherished Sigmund Freud, you should see. I don't know. The media freaks out like, no, no one should know about the truth about him. And I'm like, book club, book club.

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I'm so excited for the book club. Okay, so yeah, we're doing that. Sorry, EJ. Sorry for you and your friend, Sam. Whatever. We'll see you next week.

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or people perhaps that their clients don't like. But the question is, who do they do that on behalf of? Who does it benefit when they tell perfectly curated lies to get people really upset, to get the public very upset? Like I said, we know that the Justin Baldoni hit piece originated from Megan Toohey from The New York Times.

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And now we have news here that Blake and Ryan, who for sure gave that information to Megan Toohey of The New York Times, have opted to use a former top guy at the CIA for PR. So what is he doing for them exactly? OK.

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Well, the Variety article goes on to tell us that Nick Shapiro, the former CIA agent, launched a crisis PR firm called 10th Avenue Consulting back in 2015 after a very long tenure in the federal government. Now, in case you're wondering, How does a CIA agent have any experience to just launch a PR firm?

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Well, remember, a massive part of the CIA's job, really the most important part of the CIA's job is managing public relations because we, the people, wouldn't agree to go to war unless they sold that idea to us. They need a crisis. They need to look. 9-11 happened yesterday. Are you guys fearful? Okay, we got to go. Now we're going to go to never-ending war in the Middle East.

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Also, the judge in Blake Lively's case just slapped down their psychopathic request for two and a half years worth of every message that Justin Baldoni and Justin Heath and the PR agents have ever sent to everybody, plus location data. We knew that was going to happen. And we have obtained the audio. of hotshot Ari Emanuel of WME, who describes himself as ride or die for the couple.

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They need us to feel emotions, to be angry, to be out of control, to acquiesce to sometimes our freedoms being taken away or sometimes to being enraged and targeting our rage towards someone like Justin Baldoni and maybe agreeing that we should sign in laws. I don't know, whatever it is. If you're working for a firm, you're like, well, we want to get like SAG after a union done.

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We need the public fired up. Maybe you would hire one of these guys, right? Like I said, Because otherwise, why would you want and agree to your son's going to fight a war? I think naturally, we're all kind of averse to that. And I would, again, argue that 50%, therefore, of what the CIA does is public relations. So here's another thing that you should know, connecting this politically.

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Washington, D.C., shocking news, is massively corrupt. I know you're like, what? No, I never thought that D.C. could be corrupt. Yes, it is corrupt. Republicans, Democrats, people in between, massively corrupt institutions because we don't have term limits and they're there and they're just figuring out how to enrich their own pockets. They kind of forget about us once we send them to D.C.

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And what you have a lot of times is that there are former CIA agents who keep their security clearances. Meaning that they get to access the White House, they get to access national security intel, classified documents, because then when they leave their federal jobs, they can charge up the wazoo to become consultants.

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They are consultants if they'd like to join legal firms, legal consultants if they like in their federal afterlife. And they can, again, just be like, I still have access to the government, so you're going to want to pay me a lot of money. And so I'll give you like an analogy or actually an anecdote, not even an anecdote, a reality of how that can serve people. Hunter Biden's notorious laptop.

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If you are Hunter Biden and this laptop starts going viral right as your father is running for president, you're going to want to hire a PR crisis agency with perhaps security clearances to let you know ahead of time what exactly the government has.

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If you're going to get charged for a crime to potentially help stop that plausibility and to work within the government to lie to the public just long enough. Right. We just need to gaslight the public long enough. For my actions not to impact my father's campaign. Right. And that actually happened. We all know that actually happened. First, you were told it was like Russian disinformation.

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And then they had to essentially go, actually, you know, these are, in fact, photos of Hunter Biden smoking crack. And they it's a weird thing to know that we were kind of gaslit and lied to.

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But there's this old clip that I want to show you, because way back when, because of the obvious corruption that can take place with these security clearances, Trump revoked security clearances of former CIA people. namely John Brennan. So remember, Shapiro, Nick Shapiro is under John Brennan. He's the director of the CIA.

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Trump at one point rejected John Brennan's credentials to security clearances because he's like, this is too much corruption. And I want to show you how much of a meltdown some former CIA agents had when they went on air and they literally threatened this guy, Paris Denard, who was a

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for explaining to the public that the CIA keeps their security clearances or former CIA members because it allows them to be corrupt. OK, take a listen to this clip.

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And also great political news for those of us who are anti the never ending war campaigns. J.D. Vance and Donald Trump just absolutely humiliated Zelensky in the Oval Office in front of cameras. And it is really glorious because I'm just so tired of funding everybody else's borders, man. Can we just get like cheap groceries? Like I said, a lot going on. So let's jump right back into it.

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Get out. Yeah, you only freak out when you're lying, right? You'd be totally calm otherwise. But the purpose of showing you that clip is to essentially paint a picture to you of why somebody like Shapiro, Nick Shapiro, who Blake and Ryan have hired, might want to be launching a crisis PR firm after they leave the CIA. And he did hold on to his former security clearances.

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Now, he no longer holds on to those clearances because guess what? He lied to the public in a rather egregious way. He was one of the 51, one of the 51 former senior intelligence agents who signed that letter to gaslight us all in 2020, claiming that Hunter's laptop was rushing disinformation, which was just retrospectively an insane lie, an unbelievably bold lie.

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And then when that lie eventually fell apart, he had his clearance revoked. Again, I'm reading this from the Variety article. says, quote, Shapiro is not without controversy.

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He was one of the group of 51 former senior intelligence officials who signed the widely cited and subsequently criticized 2020 open letter stating that the Hunter Biden laptop, quote, has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.

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And that, my friends, is exactly why Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds have hired him, because he has proven that he is willing to lie without flinching, that he will straight up lie to protect his clients. He will lie to gaslight the public.

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And he has proven successful under that model because there are many people who took their word for it and thought, OK, this laptop, nothing in this is real, just long enough for it not to impact any election. Maybe there are some people who would have voted differently. Who knows? We can't go back. But it shows you who he is.

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It tells us what we should know about his character, which is essentially that he has no morals. And so this is a terrible look for Blake and Ryan Reynolds. But these two seem to be very intent on making every wrong move, in my opinion. Like they truly believe they are too rich and too connected to have to face any responsibility for their lives.

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They're just going to hire people who are more immoral than them to handle it, to just make it go away. So it's now extremely, by the way, interesting to me that I suddenly got contacted at the same time by both New York Magazine and their sister publication, The Cut, by their senior writers, which I told you about yesterday. And one of the most blatant hit pieces...

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To happen to me, I would say actually this whole year was pretty blatant, rather egregious. And I told you guys about this yesterday, but I want to expand upon it because more information has come to the forefront. The writer, E.J. Dixon, contacted us under the guise of an agreement, pretending that she was just interested in how my podcasts have gone viral. I'm a Blake Lively situation.

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Happy Friday and welcome back to Candace. All right. First, just a funny Friday story. Last night, my husband and I, we were sitting on the couch with our kids. And my eldest, he's just four years old, who is kind of starting to grapple, you know, like ideas and logic are starting to form. And he's asking a lot of questions. And he looks at me and he asks, Mommy, did you eat my brother?

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And so I agreed to this phone call because I don't really care about the smearing and libeling anymore. I think everyone left and right is kind of waking up and we're fracturing our trust with the mainstream media. But then the conversation got really weird. So first, I want you to I just want to read the sentence that came out of it to show you how dishonest she was.

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She wrote on her live stream, she's talking about my past extreme views that have led people to disavow me. She writes on her live streams and her social media, she has equated the Jewish religious practice of Kabbalah with pedophilia. nodded to medieval blight level conspiracy theory that Jews ritualistically slaughter Christian children. It's a complete lie.

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All right, guys, happy Friday. I have a major scoop for you. This is gonna be a fun Friday because it's regarding Taylor Swift and the Blake Lively lawsuit, which is just, I'm obsessed with it. I am so sorry. Basically, a protection order was filed and agreed to last night by all parties. They're just waiting for the judge to sign off on it. And I can tell you right now,

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I don't know why I'm assuming everybody's a teenager that is a Swifty, but the point being is that you're kind of growing up and you're starting to see these strategies that can be used. When you revisit that situation and you learn more facts about it, if it at all disturbs you. So again, this book has not been published yet.

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I'm literally showing you the manuscript from my Microsoft Word document. You can buy the book. And I shouldn't be showing you this because why would I show you this? But I think it's important. So here we go. We can bring this up. I'm going to pull it up here on my laptop, gang. So...

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I write in my book, before unpacking this incredible event, this is between her and Scooter Braun, it's important to at first note that Taylor Swift does not represent a rags to riches Hollywood story. In fact, if Taylor had never become famous, she would have had to settle with just being wealthy. Taylor Swift grew up on an idyllic Christmas tree farm in West Reading, Pennsylvania.

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Her father, Scott Swift, was a stockbroker for Merrill Lynch, and her mother was a marketing executive for a financial fund. It's important to note that both her parents had careers which would have rendered them financially savvy.

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This is a pretty standard thing that happens in commercial cases. And it's really just a measure that's used to protect business interests. So I'm giving you guys a really bad analogy here. But let's say I'm in court and I'm fighting with Chase Bank about something. And all of this is obviously public.

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They hired their daughter, a talent manager, at the age of 12, and Scott relocated to Merrill Lynch's Nashville office so that Taylor could pursue her career in music two years later. Suffice it to say that when record executive Scott Borchetta approached her family to sign their daughter in 2005, Taylor was well-represented.

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So well-represented, in fact, that her financially savvy father purchased a 3% stake in Borchetta's new company, Big Machine Records, under which Taylor Swift was signed. Naturally, there would have been a fleet of lawyers involved from both sides to close the deal.

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Of course, neither Scott Swift nor Scott Borchetta could have ever predicted Taylor's future success when they orchestrated that deal. They simply agreed to what they both thought was fair at that time. Borchetta took a chance on an unknown Taylor Swift, and that risk paid off. Until Taylor decided that it somehow wasn't fair 14 years later.

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Taylor decided that she would relitigate her business deal through the tactic which had always served her, manipulating the emotions of her fans who she could assume knew nothing about business. At the heart of the matter was a man named Scooter Braun who had recently just purchased Big Machine Records through his holding company.

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Through this perfectly legal business transaction, he had acquired the masters to the music catalog that Taylor Swift had created while under the label. For definition's sake, a master is effectively an original recording. Whoever therefore owns the master recording controls the destiny of the song.

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Should any person or company wish to use that song in a TV advert, a fee must be paid to the owner of the master. OK, so then I get into like clearly Taylor Swift leaves Big Machine Records. She goes with Universal and she posts this Tumblr post, this this notorious Tumblr post about.

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when Scooter Braun acquires the company, what people didn't know that was going on in the background was that Taylor Swift just in her mind had had this huge fight with Kanye West over the famous music video and Kim Kardashian. And she associated Scooter Braun with Kanye West as like his manager.

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And the reality is he actually wasn't his manager because I did the due diligence on this book at the time that that famous music video was posted. So she just didn't like him. She considered him to be Team Kanye and just didn't want him to buy the Masters. But she never told the public that her dad owned a piece of the company. This drives me.

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And we move together for the judge to seal certain aspects because we don't need those things to become public fodder. So maybe it's like my account statements. Like, why does the public need to know if I'm waking up every day and buying Starbucks coffee? Whatever it is, it's just irrelevant to the public. And so that's what they're doing.

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I was like, this is the most wildly manipulative thing to pretend that this isn't a normal business transaction. It's like he bought a house. And something was built into the house. And he's like, OK, well, I'm buying this house. I'm buying it. It comes to the pool. And then Taylor Swift takes a tumbler and she's like, I sat next to that pool and I wrote my songs.

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And it's like, girl, I don't care what your memories are here. I'm just buying a company. Like, I don't I had nothing to do with the deal that you and your dad or your dad and Borchetta orchestrated. You're not the only person here under this record label. Anyways, just showing you the beginning of her Tumblr post that she posted, because I just remember, again, her and I are the same age.

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I was like, this is insane. She wrote, for years, I asked, pleaded for a chance to own my work. Instead, I was given an opportunity to sign back up to Big Machine Records and earn one album back at a time, one for every new one I turned in. I walked away because I knew once I signed that contract, Scott Borchetta would sell the label, thereby selling me and my future.

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I had to make the excruciating choice to leave behind my past music that I wrote on my bedroom floor in videos that I dreamed up and paid for from the money that I earned playing in bars, then clubs and arenas, then stadiums. You pleaded for a chance to own your work. Did you talk to your dad?

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Why do you look like your dad was literally there's only there were only five people that were a part of this business. And one of these people was her father. So this just this entire thing was just not plausible. And then she did in a second maneuver. She posts this other Tumblr posts, which is an objective lie. Guys, it's an objective lie.

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And again, relies on people not knowing business to call out this lie. It was about the AMAs. She wrote this. Guys, it's been announced recently that the American Music Awards will be honoring me with the Artist of the Decade Award at this year's ceremony. I've been planning to perform a medley of my hits through the decade on the show.

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Scott Borchetta and Scooter Braun have now said that I'm not allowed to perform my old songs on television because they claim that would be re-recording my music before I'm allowed to next year. So this is just an objective lie for those of you that don't understand what a master recording is. They can't. It has nothing to do with you live performing something.

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It's literally just what you already recorded and that we own. Right. So it's on the album and you could say you can't play this exact album like my tears ricochet in the It Ends With Us movie. They could have stopped that. Right. The exact copy. It has to be an exact copy. That is what the master is. Right. It has nothing to do with live recording.

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And again, people who don't know business or know the ins and outs of music would have accepted this, which is why I just say at the bottom of this post. And the thing that bothered me about this was because I remember at the time Scooter Braun's wife pleading publicly with her not to do this because their kids were getting death threats because her army of fans were just so angry.

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They're trying to say, OK, there might be some things that come out that are not relevant to the public. But the language here in this protection order I found to be very interesting. And at first it made me think instantly of Taylor Swift. So we're going to pull this up. I'm calling this like the Taylor Swift clause in the protection order.

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They were so angry because they believed that she was his perfect victim. And then the story ends, by the way, if you want to pull this up back to that post, Skylar, First, I said everything about this appeal to her fan base is despicable. Even the title, Don't Know What Else to Do, is absurd. You don't know what else to do? Working it out via normal contract negotiations would be a start.

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Second, don't try and emotionally manipulate your fan base to ruin people's lives. Words and phrases such as tyrannical, wrong, be a good little girl and shut up. The entire appeal was just like, help me, help me. I don't know what to do. Not like I'm a billionaire. And I have access to the most powerful marketing team in the world. And yeah, it sucks, by the way.

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I can, to some extent, I would have agreed with her if she had done it on more honest terms and said like, you know, when you're a young artist and you sign and she says like, you know, obviously my dad had control. I didn't. And you're kind of would have done things differently and you realize how hard you're working and And you feel like, you know, your your celebrity has outgrown that contract.

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It's really frustrating. That would have been cool. Like that would have been the cool adult thing to do rather than to pretend like you were a total victim. And the story ends and it never got told. Her dad got paid 15 million dollars. Like when they got sold. And then a couple of months later, Scooter Braun resold it because it was just a normal business transaction.

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And it was more about her hatred of Kanye West at that time. And I from that moment on in 2009, I just like just saw her for this, like kind of saw this maneuver of if you can control the press, if you can control the narrative, then you can take down people and you can get what you want. And the craziest part of the story is actually the fact that Taylor Swift now makes double the money.

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So then she recorded everything. Her fans were behind her, like, you re-record your stuff and we'll buy that. And she never told her fans, but I still own the percentage of what my dad orchestrated at the beginning. So she's making money both ways.

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It actually was an incredibly financially savvy, and I will say actually a brilliant Machiavellian scheme to magnify her money, magnify her ownership while keeping her young fan base kind of emotionally swayed. And I felt... I felt that it was so wrong.

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And so when I look at this situation with what's happening with Blake and she's doing kind of that same maneuver of saying, like, I've been used, I really just don't buy it. And I'm tired of it. I'm exhausted with that narrative that she's used every single time. And she's 30, going to be 36 this year. OK, you're smart. You are capable. You have done things in your life that are wrong.

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It says the person producing any given discovery material may designate it as confidential or attorney's eyes only.

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OK, relationship wise, business relationship wise. And And you can't keep doing this because you've done a good job of kind of curating your brand as a helpless little girl. It's just wrong. OK, and so what I can expect and this is what I'm again, I'm guessing this here is that they are now done with Blake Lively. I think that that's real. I don't think that this is fake anymore.

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And this might be the reason that Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds fold, because what matters to them in a narcissistic world is the friendship with Taylor Swift. That's the only thing that can actually impact them. They like that access to power. They like being able to tell people like Taylor Swift is our friend. She's our dragon.

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And if they think that that's going to be removed from their lives, then they might go, OK, I don't want to do this lawsuit. Let's issue a statement and let's settle this thing. That's that. is my again, that is totally my own prognostication. Who knows? But my guess is going to be because I've seen her move.

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She's shutting down this friendship ASAP because she doesn't want people to have access to those messages. And I don't think it's going to be a nice girl. I don't think you're going to get a sweet girl who would have never done this to Justin Baldoni. I think the public is going to be very, very surprised when they meet the very media savvy, very capable, very business savvy Taylor Swift.

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That's my that's my point. Now, that's Tree, by the way, with the red hair. And listen, I respect them both. They've killed it. They've killed her brand. They've killed stories. They've persuaded the masses. And like I said, no matter what happens, I'm still bopping London Boy. It's a great song. And there's some more songs, too, that my daughter likes off of the Lover album.

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Only such portion of such material, the public disclosure of which is either restricted by law or will cause harm to the business, commercial, financial or personal interests of the producing person and or a third party, including high profile individuals to whom a duty of confidentiality is owed. I don't know why they are. I don't know why we owe these high profile people confidentiality.

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I'll probably be at her concert. I'd just be like, listen, I don't believe anything you're saying, but like, Lover's a good album. You know what I'm saying?

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In other news, by the way, Leslie Sloan PR, and I forgot to bring up the chart for you, but just to remind you, Leslie Sloan PR is the PR firm that reps Blake and Ryan Reynolds, and they have repped them for years, like close to a decade, okay?

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And their attorney, who is Sigrid McCauley, the one that represented Epstein's victims, the one that made a fool of herself in the hearing by just trying to use a girl power strategy, my, they should not be in this because they run an all-girl firm. What? Well, she's now filed a motion for them to be dismissed from Justin Baldoni's lawsuit.

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Plus, they want all of their attorney fees covered in what's known as an anti-SLAPP motion. Anti-SLAPP basically meaning that if you bring about a defamation lawsuit and there's no grounds for that lawsuit, then they can charge you the attorney fees. And so every state has different laws pertaining to anti-SLAPP. They're asking for their attorney fees to be covered. And their reason...

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In case you're wondering in this filing, this again went in yesterday as well. They're saying, well, they opened this up by saying, well, Justin Baldoni once said that he believed women. I'm not kidding. They're doing the feminist thing. This has been their whole strategy.

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They wrote this quote, Justin Baldoni has spent years profiting off the feminist and hashtag Me Too movements, peddling books, podcasts, TED Talks, and more, using slogans about believing survivors. ending victim blaming and promoting informed consent. His conduct in this dispute is therefore sheer hypocrisy. Like, I'm just so shocked by this. This is like, I'm a girl.

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He said things close to a decade ago that we should believe women when he was in a TEDx stage. And I said something and I want to be believed. So get me out of here. I don't want to be here anymore. It's just it's crazy. And then we move from this like feminist strategy to this unbelievable dip in IQ altogether. This is a real statement from their filing. Right.

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Baldoni does not deny the lion's share of misconduct for which he is accused. Instead, he tries to contextualize his behavior and suggests that Ms. Lively asked for it. Then they give an example. You can see in the bottom notes there.

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For instance, Mr. Baldoni responds to Miss Lively's allegation that Baldoni and Heath invaded her trailer uninvited while she was undressed, included when she was breastfeeding her infant child, by publishing a text message where Miss Lively invited Baldoni to her trailer. Yeah, that's kind of some important context. What are you accusing him of?

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Providing the context that lets us know that she's lying? How dare he interrupt her narrative where she says that he barged into the trailer by then including a text message which proves that he was actually invited into the trailer. What lawyer put this in here? That is truly just... unwise. It's the nicest way I can say it. Whoever put this together is not a very intelligent lawyer.

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That is your defense. How dare he contextualize our out-of-context statements? Yeah, that's kind of important to contextualize everything that you guys have said. And when they did that, it made the public understand that you're Your clients are playing a very nasty game. Then they go on and they accuse him of like, you know, predatory behavior.

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He and his team used every weapon in their arsenal blame to embarrass and to silence. And then they go back to that initial CRD complaint of trying to put things out of context. They say their crisis PR manager who promised to, quote, unquote, bury Miss Lively and, quote, unquote, destroy her life. They have since debunked that so many times. This was the New York Times hook.

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We're going to bury her. We're going to destroy her. And then when you actually see the full context as presented by Brian Friedman, you realize this is a nasty game of PR. And they plucked and choose what they wanted to create their own narrative narrative. Now, they also go on to say that they want to be dropped from this lawsuit because there's no evidence of extortion.

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They say that there is no evidence of defamation. And I'm going to tell you guys right away that I do not think that the judge is going to allow them to be dismissed because it's just a really weak filing, first and foremost, that does nothing to make sense. if I'm the judge, make me think that they weren't involved in this.

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And that consists of a previously nondisclosed financial information, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. OK, you get it. So I'm thinking this means like we're not going to be able to read these Taylor Swift text messages. We're not going to be able to read or they're going to like seal her deposition. Turns out

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There's also going to be some limited discovery involved in that circumstance. And given the fact that Leslie Sloan PR, as I said, has represented Ryan and Blake for almost a decade, it's just not likely.

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That it was not them that was shopping around those articles that we saw during the premiere time when all these articles were premiering that were coming out about Justin Baldoni saying the cast didn't like him and saying that Blake thought he was a creep. Remember this TMZ article? They have a strong contact. Leslie Sloan PR at TMZ. Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni.

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She felt kissing scene lingered too long. Feels he fat shamed her. So we were getting an early preview of the CRD complaint in TMZ. Who would have dropped that in TMZ if not her own PR firm? Like, that's just obviously that's coming from that. It was also People magazine that says it ends with us. Justin Baldoni's clash goes past Blake Lively. The cast will have nothing to do with him.

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Who had access to the cast that would have dropped the cast that would have dropped that in People magazine? They then go on and I want to just blatantly call out the absolute BS on the claim that Leslie Sloan is saying that she did not get involved with her clients until August 8th. OK, that's from the filing. She did not get involved until August 8th. Look at that. OK. Completely crazy. Ms.

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Sloan did not speak to the press about Baldoni until August 8th, when she responded to a press inquiry about a story that Baldoni's team had planted days, if not weeks earlier. Maybe you didn't directly speak to the press, Leslie.

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that depositions are coming. It is a fact, an absolute fact. Also, in the wildest, most pathetic, most dishonest and cowardly response ever to the Becoming Brigitte series, President Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte Macron have their goons coming out and saying that they never received my letter back to them.

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Maybe you had one of your younger junior people on the team speak to the press, but you are not going to make the public believe that you were not involved until August 8th. You would have been involved all year, okay? Both of your clients, Ryan and Blake, had movies. Again, relying on the public to not understand how PR works.

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We are obviously not going to accept that you didn't get involved until August 8th, but Deadpool had premiered the month earlier. It Ends With Us had premiered, what was it, August 3rd or maybe on August 8th. And in the midst of an absolute firestorm, we're supposed to think that you just weren't speaking to them or dealing with the press at all or your firm was not dealing with the press at all.

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I am completely wrong because I have it on very good authority that Taylor Swift is going to get subpoenaed and she is going to be deposed and she is up first. They want her first. They have heard the public pleas and essentially we're just we're going to get it. We are finally going to get what we want. And this is a very, very, very big deal. And I'll tell you why.

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LOL. It's also highly unlikely that they were not involved when Jennifer Abel's phone got taken away. Remember that Jennifer Abel was the one who left Stephanie Jones PR and then joined kind of the new PR and took Justin Baldoni with her. It, She got her phone taken away from Stephanie Jones.

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That was kind of the basis of a New York Times story, text messages that they forced her to hand over her phone. And then they found and emails that were out of context. There's no chance that Ryan and Reynolds and Leslie Sloan did not speak before that. Now, I want to show you this before we move on from this, because I think this is insane.

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I think, and again, this is fully opinion, that Ryan Reynolds engaged this psychopath in trying to, once they had made the decision to go to the New York Times, which they had been threatening to do behind the scenes, apparently, that he tried to essentially create an alibi for himself and for Leslie Sloan PR because a very weird text message exchange that she drops.

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Allegedly, this text message that took place between her and Ryan Reynolds took place on August 13th. August 13th, okay? Let's pull it up. This is from the filing yesterday. Leslie says, hi, it's Les, just checking in to tell you that I'm thinking about you, B and the family. Hugs to all, XX. Ryan then says, thank you.

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This is the craziest thing I've ever witnessed in my life, but it will be resolved. Okay, let me tell you right away what is wrong with that message on August 13th. Why is she saying, hi, it's Les? Who starts a text message like that with anyone who's already admitted in her filing saying she got involved. She didn't speak to the press directly until August 9th. I don't even believe that.

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But you're telling me that this is after Kirsten Flaa's video had dropped. Everything's going insane. He's had Deadpool. You're starting a message with Hyatt's Les? You don't have his number? You don't have Ryan Reynolds? He's been your client for a decade. You don't have his number?

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The only excuse for this would be you had a new number, you got a new number, in which case you would have started with, hey, it's Lez's new number. And he probably would have checked to make sure it was, in fact, Les to make sure it was a new number or something. But why does she start this text with, hi, it's Les? Then they go on and they say this is another exchange that they had.

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And this is very weird. Again, Ryan's way too formal. I'm telling you right now, I have a PR person. You are the most informal with your PR person. My guy's Mitchell. And you're constantly in fire, especially when you're a firestorm. Like they call you up. They're like the New Yorkers running a piece saying that you're Adolf Hitler. You're not like, hi. Hi, it's Mitchell. I would like to.

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I'm like, what the heck? What's going on? This is crazy. This is we have we have to stop. This is insane. This is not true. Watch this next message that's next to it that Ryan allegedly sent. They're using this as proof that they had nothing to do with the storm on the right hand side there. Ryan says in perfect language, now we know he's crazy, so this makes me uncomfortable.

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It's like serial killer vibes. Thanks for sending. It's imperative we stay silent on everything and speak to nobody. As I mentioned in Denmark before Blake's premiere, to not talk to anyone about any of these attacks on Blake. Just making sure you haven't done that at any point, question mark. I think this is sweet, Bart said.

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First and foremost, with my non-legal expertise, as I have said from the very beginning, smartest possible move for Justin Baldoni's team to make. I've said deposer. I wasn't sure they were going to do it because Brian Friedman was asked about it by Harvey Levin on TMZ. And he said, well, we don't know. We'll see which way this case goes. And I'm going... What do you mean you don't know?

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I think this is sweet that Bart said this, but the only thing to do is to remain quiet for now. So they're introducing this as a message that Ryan sent, okay, in August, in mid-August to Leslie Sloan PR as proof that they had nothing to do with everything that was leaking. Pull that text back up because it's just, no one texts like this.

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Don't forget that I also told you in Denmark back in August not to say anything. There's no record of that, so I'm creating it right here in this message. Do not talk to anyone about any of these attacks on Blake. Wink, wink. Hi, it's Les. Hey, Les, it's me, Ryan. Don't do the thing that we're definitely doing, but we need to now create a trail that says that we didn't do it. You feel the same?

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You definitely feel the same, right? This is like it's giving alibi. It is giving we're making a decision to go crazy. I'm trying. He's trying to buy his company. And it's even crazier when you consider that he's saying don't say anything after he's created the movie Deadpool. And he has said everything. Ryan has said everything that he could possibly say in the public sphere.

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Like, he is petty Betty, okay? Petty Betty everywhere, all over the internet, on Deadpool, in the credits. Now he's, hello, this is Ryan. Let's not do anything and be really mature. Remember when I also said let's not do anything at the premiere in Denmark? Guys, guys, Smells like an alibi and it was dumb. If you want to do an alibi, Leslie, don't start with Hyatt's Les.

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Don't start with Hyatt's Les. You got to. I can help you. I keep saying this, guys. If you give me a budget, I can help you. Call me, Ryan. Call me. Okay, don't. Put me in the new Deadpool movie that's coming out and make petty little jokes. I can help you. You're just being you guys aren't being very smart right now. I know you're the magician or the narcissist that believes in his own magic.

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And you thought you definitely orchestrated this weird alibi thing that you're doing. But it was a bad idea. I know you can't see yourself because you think you're untouchable, but you've been touched, my friend. You've been touched. Hi, it's me, Candace. Please don't do anything. All right, guys, don't do anything as I read a couple of messages from our sponsors. First one coming up, Ramp.

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That would be like the very first thing I would do. I would depose Taylor Swift against Blake Lively because first and foremost, no matter how you feel about Taylor Swift, you have to recognize and respect the fact that she is a machine, okay? She is an absolute machine. She will do everything to protect her image. In other words, Blake and Ryan will wind up fighting a real dragon, okay?

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So call American financing today and start your journey towards being credit card debt free. call 800-795-1210. Again, that's 800-795-1210, or simply visit AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. That's AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. Okay, so yesterday we wrapped the Becoming Brigitte series, and obviously it's everywhere.

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OK, and there's just no way that they're not going to be questioned about it. Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte Macron are getting questions about it. They're trying to play it all cool. Their comments are being inundated. Everything they do now is being touched with people calling them, calling Brigitte Jean-Michel Trogno. And so this is amazing. The AFP, so essentially the French AP, went out.

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to Mrs. McCrone or whoever is in charge of Mrs. McCrone's PR and asked them about the Becoming Brigitte series. And Brigitte McCrone's lawyer, whose name, the French lawyer, okay, because they have the American team, they're the ones that served me, asked OK, they got us a letter and then my legal team replied to them with 21 questions.

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And now their lawyer in France, a woman named Jean Anaki, is she first confirmed they asked, like, are these like X excerpts that Candace showed on her show real? And they confirmed that the excerpts from the letters that I addressed on my show and published are, quote, indeed a reproduction of a letter from the American lawyer of the Macron couple. So they're admitting, yes, that was us.

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We sent the letter. He points out, however. Oh, I realize it's Jean, not Jean. It's a guy. The lawyer's name is Jean Inaki. He points out, however, that the list of questions allegedly sent by Candace Owens in return was never received by interested parties. What does that mean?

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Okay, then they go on to say, quote, Candace Owens' interventions are just unfounded statements to convince people who are already convinced by this delusional thesis, if there are still any, he insists. Scroll back up. Like, literally, what does that mean? What does the statement, it was not received by the interested party. It's like you're saying nothing there.

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Are you saying that Brigitte Macron and Emmanuel never received the 21 questions back? Because let me tell you something. That's a lie, my friends. That is a lie. And we know it's a lie. It's an insane lie. But listen, if you're lying about your entire gender, what's it to you to lie via your lawyer about receiving it? You made contact with me.

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We weren't trying to send letters and guess who your lawyer was. You admit, yes, the American law firm got the letter to me. Not only did we respond to you via email, okay? We gave you 21 questions, which you can pull up via email, but we then got a response from you. We got a response from you in the form of a preservation order that you sent us, and we went over that preservation order.

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A real dragon that has an army of teenagers that are behind her. And it is my professional opinion that, that she was very much involved. She was involved in this circumstance and that currently her team is lying to the public. I kept saying they are clearly lying to the public and trying to signal Justin Baldoni's team, like, look, we have nothing to do with this.

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We read the entire preservation order on our show to show people that you refused to answer the 21 questions. So are you now trying to pretend that your American law firm, a big American D.C. law firm, just went rogue? that they received a response. You spent money to write 100 pages to me, have it delivered to my home. And when they got a response, they just didn't tell you.

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They were like, no, we're not going to tell you what they are. If you are alleging that, can you explain also who's running your Twitter account? Because not only did I send you the letter, I mean, with the 21 questions, not only did you respond with a preservation order, but then I tweeted you the 21 questions. I said, we sent our reply to at Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte yesterday.

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We included specific questions for them to answer before we released our full investigative piece on Brigitte. Again, we were doing the right thing here. We said, if we get basic answers, did you give birth to three children? We'll put it in the series. We have no interest in lying. And look at the date on this. We did this before we started the series. Straightforward, yes or no questions.

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I look forward to a straightforward response. They did not answer these 21 questions on Twitter. I then tweeted again. Again, I tweeted and I was making jokes and I was dropping 50 cent. I got 21 questions and they all about us tagging Emmanuel Macron every single time being like, girl, it's easy to love me now. Would you love me if I was down and out? Please just answer my 21 questions.

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And they're saying they just, the interested parties just never received it. What goes on in France? Are you like allowed to lie in France as the president? Is this just like legal? In France, you can just say whatever you want, just make stuff up. Like I said, Brigitte, You've got balls, my man. You've got balls to just have your lawyer come out and say that you never got the 21 questions.

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But here's the thing. That's the problem. When you lie about who you are, who you are, your identity, There is no lie in your life that you won't tell. Like, that's got to feel like nothing. Like, pretending you didn't get it, you're like, oh, well, I've been lying about my gender my entire life. I've been lying about my, you know, my friends. I've been lying about everything.

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I've been lying about my relationship with this man when I met him. Why would it what do I feel towards lying and pretending that my American lawyers were just so out of pocket and suddenly went rogue and didn't deliver to me an email, which was then tweeted at me. And I was being mocked with the dissent music. It feels like nothing. I'll just lie. You're just lying.

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And so this is just who they are. This couple absolutely must step down. They just have to step down. They are terrible human beings. It's not Emmanuel Macron's fault. It is Brigitte's fault because you groomed him. You groomed Emmanuel Macron.

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And so I take it that you're not going to file that lawsuit, that heavy threat, which makes it even crazier, because you're saying, if you didn't get my 21 questions, where's your lawsuit? Where's your lawsuit, Brigitte? When are you going to drop it? You've had all this runway, and you waited until the series concluded, and now you're pretending you didn't get the questions? Wild. Absolutely wild.

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But like I said, we're in this weird... I like 2025. Liars are being exposed. Whoever they may be, the liars are getting exposed. What has been done in the dark seems to be being revealed in the light. Sunlight being the best disinfectant. So I'm just going to sit back and see what happens with this couple and sit back and see what happens to Blake Lively. I'm lying. I am not sitting back.

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We're not friends with her anymore. We don't even like her. We don't even know her. We can't believe she said this. They were running articles. She feels used. She feels abused. They claimed to TMZ in one article that she only met Justin once and it was briefly. And essentially she was startled because the meeting was supposed to be over at Blake's apartment.

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I am active. I am involved. I have deluded myself into believing that I am a part of this lawsuit. Blake Lively can delude herself into believing that she was sexually harassed by Justin Baldoni. I can delude myself into believing that I am a party to this lawsuit. Thank you guys very much for understanding that and for supporting me through this delusion. All right, guys, I want to tell you-

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The topic is pornography. He is quite a controversial character. He was put on ADL's list for I'm on ADL's list. So what can I say? Because they don't really love speech. And he talks about the origins of pornography. It was a fascinating discussion. He's also a fellow Catholic. I would love to see what so many people think about that interview. I think it's tremendous.

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And I think pornography is hurting the world. I think it's hurting men, especially, and it is harming women and relationships. And we have become an overtly pornographic culture. So that is up available on the website for subscribers. Also, of course, if you want to buy the book, You can get it now on sale. I read you a little tidbit. My husband is probably watching and going, why did you do that?

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I'm sorry, honey. I just do things. I just want to do hood rat things on the internet with my friends. And also I want to tell Thank you so much for having me. And somebody's got to keep me straight. You know, if it's got to be a legal team and it's got to be my husband and they're like, no, you can wait one weekend to say who it is.

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We just need to make sure that we are dotting our hour I's and crossing our T's so that you don't end up in prison. Anyways, keep sending me your guesses all weekend and we will be announcing that on Monday. Getting into your comments. Let's see what you guys have for me today. Talia writes, the way I cackled and ran straight to watch this episode. These thumbnails deserve Emmys, Candice.

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Also that 21 questions line, cackling. Thank you so much. Yeah, we have a fun time with thumbnails. Today was me. Thank you very much. There's a Taylor Swift song for everything. It's great. I'm like, wow, the more we cover her, we can just get deeper into her music. It's just so funny. Wanda says, Candice is my only news source. Thank you so much.

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We're having, obviously you can see we're having way too much fun. Helda writes, I absolutely appreciate the type of person that you are. It takes a lot to be poised. Keep on keeping on. Thank you so much. Eddie writes, caught the Candace crush. You are amazing. God bless you. Thank you for saying things that matter. The truth. You know what you're doing. And I am here for every minute of it.

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Thank you so much. And the reason just you guys know, because I know the media said terrible things about me when I didn't support the Me Too movement. I just always in my head just thought it was weird that we were pretending that we might not one day have sons who have to live in that environment. Like we like Justin Baldoni was definitely born from a woman.

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And then she arrived and Justin Baldoni was there. And then they painted this narrative like Taylor was just really nice. And because she thought this is Blake's boss and she was being really kind, had a brief discussion and never spoke to him again. And we just know objectively that that is not true, okay?

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And like if you can imagine your son going through something like that and it's because you've created an environment where we should just like believe women. That always scared me. And that was before I had any sons. And now I've got three. So, you know, I am glad that I just said, listen, we should not believe women or men, but we should believe facts when they are presented.

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Both people are convinced both sexes are capable of lying, obviously. Yeah. Dahlia writes, the roof scene had me squirming. Haha, you're a neurosurgeon bit. Pure cringe. And her outfits were absolutely hideous. Ryan probably forced Balaki to file the suit. I totally agree that Ryan was behind a lot. And those messages still make me nervous. Look at his face. He scares me. I can't explain it.

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I'm so afraid of Ryan. He's going to come for me. He's going to come for my whole life. Can't believe it. Ben writes, Ken is pleased with an episode on Catholic emancipation in Ireland. The government failed to include it as a date to remember in 2029. In 1829, it gave Catholics basic human rights and led to our independence, but not a word on it.

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So that's actually very ironic because I just happened to watch Braveheart. I know that's not like obviously Ireland, but I watched Braveheart over the weekend and I just kind of got very fired up about Catholicism. And yes, OK, we have to do more episodes on Catholicism around the world and what's happening. And that will be definitely more in our longer pieces.

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So thanks for putting that on my radar. Sydney writes, Candice, I dipped my toes into your content with the Yay interview, but have gone fully into the deep end with the Brigitte series. The Blake versus Justin is my Roman Empire. Thank you for your hard work. And it's allowed to be our Roman Empire. I want to say that.

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I know we're chasing our husbands and we're tackling them and we're forcing them to, you know... learn all this information against their will. But it's our right, I feel. They've had their Roman Empire like since the Roman Empire. And they talk about it and they think about it all the time. And we're allowed to do that, okay? They might not think it's important. It is important.

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So I just want, carry on, ladies. And now we've gotten them. I see men in the comments like, I'm here. I'm here now. My wife forced me to do this against my will. And I'm here now. And I want to say this, fellas. We are very happy to have you here on this journey. We are going to rescue Justin Baldoni. All right, guys, we will see you on Monday.

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I don't think there's anything else that I have to mention other than the E. Michael Jones interview going up today. Other than that, yeah, have a great weekend.

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We know objectively that is not true because both Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, despite this contentious fight, have agreed on the fact that Taylor Swift was involved in this film, okay? They just have agreed on that without knowing that this fight was coming when everything was all good in the hood and Blake Lively was using her name.

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So I'm going to jog your memory just so you understand how many points she's involved in, how many times she could be subject to having to answer questions about maybe giving text messages pertaining to, first and foremost, the casting of young Lily Bloom, otherwise known as the actress Isabella Ferrer. Remember, she said this on the red carpet premiere.

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And Justin Baldoni confirmed this in an interview. He said that this happened. But listen to his language, OK? Because it sounds like he's maybe seen Taylor Swift more than at that one time at the apartment in which she was, quote unquote, startled and never spoke to him again, according to the PR teams. Take a listen.

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My letter back to them with the 21 questions, which they replied to with the preservation order. Absolutely insane. What can I say other than Brigitte Macron has got some balls? Welcome back to Candace. All right, guys, Taylor Swift, she is getting to post. It is happening. It is happening. Everybody stay calm, okay?

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OK, so she he showed the casting tape. Did all that happen in a couple of minutes? Are we supposed to believe that happened in a couple of minutes at the apartment when she apparently just said, hi, bye. Nice to meet you, boss. He then said, oh, let me show you the casting tapes for Lily Bloom. More going on there. OK, they're lying to the public.

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And again, this is because Tree is trying to protect her client. The right thing to do, by the way, the right that is the job of a PR person, which is try to signal to the public that she wants nothing to do with it so that she does and have to get pulled into this. Now, we should also be reminded that Taylor Swift also allegedly got the lead composer on the film, Brian Tyler, fired.

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And the guy under him, allegedly for personal reasons, we were told by this anonymous Reddit post, which came out way before any of this broke in the public and no one believed the person at the time. And yet everything this person has said has now fact-checked true.

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So they were alleging that Taylor Swift came in there and was like, if you want to use my song, My Tears Ricochet, which they did, again showing that she was very involved in this film, then you can't have these guys as the composers. And we saw that Brian, whereas Brian Taylor is friends with Justin Baldoni, and he's worked with him in the past, and that he had written a score for

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For this movie, for whatever reason, his music was not used. So where there's smoke, there is fire. And they have not explicitly denied that, despite the fact that all the podcasters and TikTokers are speaking about that. There has not been this denial from Taylor Swift's camp. Then there's this, OK, we went over how odd the It Ends With Us credits were.

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I was sexually harassed and now we're just mocking him everywhere, mocking Justin Baldoni everywhere. But she thanks Taylor Swift. So bingo. Obviously, she was involved. Now, you might say, oh, well, it's because her song was used. Well, we found out from that Reddit post that it was more than that. They had a sit down with Bradley Cooper, which is why he's mentioned in the It Ends With Us

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It Ends With Us credits because they had this like celebrity screening of Blake Lively's cut. But then it was the person said it was like her cut was problematic. So they brought in Taylor Swift's videographer or Taylor Swift's music video makers to help with the edit. Well, then I noticed that in the It Ends With Us credits, there is a person named Stefania Delowski.

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And I had not scooped this before. So I was looking up everybody on this list, like a psycho, and I was like, who's Stefania Dulowski? It turns out that she is an editor, she's a director, and she's a photographer who previously worked with Taylor Swift. Not just Taylor Swift, but also Blake Lively. This is from Stefania Dulowski's website.

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She has a list of every music video she's worked on, and this is Taylor Swift's song, I Bet You Think About Me. You see it lists Shane Reed and also Blake Lively. This is Blake Lively in her directorial debut. This was back in November of 2021. So she directed Taylor Swift's video. And the person that did the edits was this Stefania.

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And they clearly brought on Stefania, Taylor Swift's team, to come in and get involved in this movie. OK, so you don't get to now go, oh, I had nothing. I just one little run in here with Justin Baldoni. I have nothing else to do with anything. OK. Then you have the fact that Blake Lively herself admitted during an August 2024 panel. They're doing all of these promos.

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They're on the promotional tour. And they did this stop, I guess, really to appeal to influencers and speak about the movie. And she just flat out spells out the fact that Taylor Swift was involved every step of the way with this film. Take a listen.

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It's really interesting when you consider really the thrust of this lawsuit and you can only imagine the things that she's allowed to say. If Justin had ever said that, if he was like, I don't take no for an answer, can somebody show me what it looks like in a dictionary? I don't listen when I'm told no. They would have made a big stink about it, particularly in their filings.

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So yesterday, as I mentioned, yesterday evening, again at 11.02 p.m., I don't know why Blake Lively's team likes to file these things late in the day, knowing that I'm monitoring things and I can't stay up that late. But they filed a protective order, and I at first looked at it, and I thought that they had done this by themselves.

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But all of that's believable, by the way. So she's just saying right there, Taylor Swift's been involved since the beginning, you know, every step of the way, more than just the song that she gave us. It's believable, but Because as I pointed out, we have been so focused on that text message about the dragons and Khaleesi because it's wacky and it's weird and it's crazy and it's unstable.

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But what's also compelling is that the very first time that Ryan Reynolds and Justin Baldoni speak via text message when they first are introduced to each other, Ryan Reynolds immediately name drops Taylor Swift. Okay. She's the only person they're blurring out in this lawsuit. So I'm going to remind you of this. This is important. He is basically saying how great Blake is.

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And then he says, Justin Baldoni, some of the greatest creative decisions I've made are in fact, Blake, the same goes for Taylor. Okay. The acting is a small piece of a pretty astounding patchwork quilt of creativity. So he name drops her right away. And I remind you, she was coming out of that relationship with Joe Alwyn and she was spending a lot of time with them.

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At the beginning of her eras tour, she was being pictured with them. It's what she likes to do when she gets out of relationships. She likes to girl squad, get photographed by paparazzi. And I would just imagine she needed something to play with. And it ends with us, ended up being what she decided to play with.

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Then, of course, the most obvious thing is that Ryan uses Taylor Swift's strategy of dropping Easter eggs all over social media, all over the Deadpool movie, all over the It Ends With Us credits, all over the Deadpool credits to take all of these digs at Justin Baldoni again, which makes all of us not believe that she was actually sexually harassed and rather they were moving to try to squeeze her and to eventually just have Blake replace Justin Baldoni as the director on the film.

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you know, by playing this part of I'm a victim. This is, whether you want to admit it or not, this is Taylor Swift's MO. So she is screwed. She's up first on their people to depose, and we are going to be able to read that deposition, you know, because there's nothing proprietary there. We don't need her accounts.

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And you can't say, well, I don't want to be deposed because I'm Taylor Swift, and there might be something in there that shows that I'm a liar. You can't do that. This is a PR crisis for Taylor Swift. And I'm going to tell you why that interests me, okay? It interests me

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Because this moment is super interesting for the left and the right because—and I was having this call with Taylor Lorenz, formerly of The Washington Post, this morning. And she was asking me specifically about this lawsuit and why is it that it seems that it's bringing together the left and the right. And I sort of said to her, well, actually—

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But actually, it looks like it was agreed to by both parties to protect some of the things that may come up in discovery and through all of these subpoenas. Now, my lawyer told me that this is actually pretty standard. My poor lawyer, who I call all the time asking questions about this case, and he tells me that I'm not a party in the case at all, but he's got to give me legal advice anyways.

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At least for me, I have been on this Me Too thing for a very long time because I recognize that it was becoming a business strategy. But I think that something fractured for people that were on the left with the Amber Heard lawsuit. And they didn't forget that. They didn't forget what Amber Heard said to them and then what they watched throughout the process.

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hearings and her kind of just completely forgetting the fact that she had abused Johnny. We got to read her messages and we kind of up close got to see how the press can just completely take down a man. I'm not saying that everything that Johnny Depp did was great in this relationship. I mean, both of them were admitting to doing drugs on the stand, but it

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Definitely, they just chose the woman in this. And so many details were left out. And I think it was a good moment. I think that fracturing was good because it allowed us to all go. Let's pause and actually think and consider that maybe we're not being told the truth and that maybe sometimes women do lie. And I have known for years.

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OK, trust me when I tell you I know enough people in Hollywood that Taylor Swift is considered a very shrewd businesswoman. She's gotten away with a lot of things because truly, and don't kill me, Swifties, but it's because of this empire of teenage girls. It's because I have to say, don't kill me, Swifties, when I share some facts with you. And it's funny because I said to you the time

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And I was like, I can enjoy her music. I can enjoy the artist. And I still, like I said in my Instagram stories today, I'm going to bop to London Boy forever. Like, it's totally fine. I can genuinely appreciate it brings me back nostalgia. Some of the albums on the same age as her.

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But in 2019, I was like, I'm good off of Taylor Swift because her and I are the same age and we're both involved in business. And when I saw her do that move against Scooter Braun, something in me broke.

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And so I wanted to kind of jog your memory about that really quickly before we get to Leslie Sloan PR's move, because I'm really interested to hear what Swifties have to say about this with new information and with time and with you guys getting older.

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All right, you guys, happy Friday. Happy Valentine's Day for all you lovers out there. I should have worn pink or something, but I did not. Anyways, there will be a mix up today of politics and culture, I promise. First and foremost, I should tell you that I have a major scoop regarding Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds, their newest legal plan or something that they were attempting.

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And now she has disappeared from the platform because it's made the news of people speaking about their experience with her, as many people have come out and spoken about their various experiences with Blake Lively. And again, we are reading the text messages ourselves. But don't believe your own eyes. Don't listen to Barbara. because you're not rich enough, okay?

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Ari Emanuel wants you to know they give money to charity. Could you give a million dollars to an AIDS foundation or to a hurricane relief? All right, then booger off, guys. This is how Hollywood thinks of the little people.

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Also, don't listen to Blake even in her own words, because like we covered last week, she has openly admitted that she does exactly what Justin Baldoni's team accuses her of, pretending that she's just going to be an actress and then she intentionally takes over movies.

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Also, if she doesn't get what she wants or if somebody is cast that she doesn't like, she's openly admitted that she poisons the whole cast against people. That's what she admitted back in 2009, at least, in a Glamour magazine article, which she was on the cover. I remember this, guys.

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I'm telling you, I was working at Glamour magazine when I told you that she was the cover shoot and that my boss that I was working for said she was awful and she was the rudest person that she ever worked for. This was the cover of the magazine. Take it to the bank. I worked at Glamour when this magazine was happening, okay? So she was initially upset. This is a quote from her.

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co-host and hearing his side of things may have been what we have discovered since a repeat sort of Ryan Reynolds psychopathic strategy of essentially love bombing people giving them roles they don't deserve in places that they don't belong and basically pretending to be the best most amazing friend because the person that they're targeting and the person that they want to isolate is a person like Justin Baldoni who's connected to that individual it's all about isolation and so Liz Plank was a perfect person for them to go after but

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She was initially upset that Penn Badgley, who became her future boyfriend, got hired for the role. She said in the magazine, quote, At first, I was so upset that they hired him. I actually poisoned the whole cast against him. But then they noticed... that he wasn't a jerk and was actually really nice, charming person.

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Almost immediately, I realized that too, but it took me about a week to admit it. So Blakey no likey, then Blakey's going to go after you and poison the whole cast against you. And now she's got the money and the resources to poison the cast around you, including people on an unrelated podcast to her life, to fly out to the UK to offer some really sound, sage podcast

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opinion and advice and expertise on the topic of bromances. I hope she writes a book. I really do hope Liz Plank writes a book so I can fully understand what exactly a bromance is and how I should weigh it against my female friendships. Anyways, trust the science, like I said, because she's really nice to billionaires.

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And the most egregious update, by the way, in this lawsuit, it was egregious to me. I was I was like personally offended by this when I saw this. I was freaking out. OK, essentially how you should perceive this is Blake Lively is now openly admitting that she did not have a shred of evidence when she conspired to ruin Justin Baldoni's entire life. OK, why do we know that? Because of a subpoena.

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That information came to the public in the form of a subpoena on Wednesday. In case you missed it, her and Ryan Reynolds' lawyers sent a subpoena to three phone carriers, AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile, seeking records pertaining to Baldoni, producer Jamie Heath, and, of course, the billionaire Wayfarer Studios co-founder, Steve Sarowitz, okay?

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Now, the subpoenas also are against the publicists that are involved, Jennifer Abel and Melissa Nathan. Not entirely unusual to subpoena messages, by the way, pertaining to a lawsuit. That's actually totally normal. If you think that there are some messages, it's a limited scope that you get. I've been involved in this.

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You give them forward and it allows them to look for a piece of evidence that they insist is in there, whatever. But this is not what they're doing. They're not. This is a limited scope subpoena. This is what a spokesperson for Lively said.

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They said, quote, phone records belonging to all of the individual defendants will expose the full web of individuals who were involved in the smear campaign against Ms. Lively. Such records will provide critical and irrefutable evidence not only about who, but also about when, where and how their retaliation plan came together and operated.

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So you're thinking, wow, they must have a smoking gun in there. And then Brian Friedman drops this, OK? Basically, they are asking not just for messages pertaining to this lawsuit so that they know that they're looking for a conversation between so-and-so and so-and-so on this week, on this day. They are seeking all calls, text, and location data.

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Everything in their phone stretching back two and a half years. They want everything, every message they've ever sent, okay? Brian Friedman said, quote, this massive phishing expedition demonstrates that they are desperately seeking any factual basis for their provably false claims. They will find none, okay?

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You don't ask for every message in someone's entire phone spanning back two and a half years. I was personally offended when I heard this because I think what they're relying on is, again, people in the public to be stupid and think that that's normal. Of course it's not normal. Do you know what you would find?

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Basically, you could paint any person in the entire world as a bad person if you had access to two and a half years of out of context messages. I would be painted as the most racist person in the entire world. The amount of times that I send racist messages to my sisters, like literally like every day, I'm like, stop doing that. Stop. Stop being black. Wake up. Stop being black. Out of context.

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Oh, my God. The headline would read, Candace Owens told her sister, stop being black. Why would she say this? How could she do this? I sent terrible messages, horrific messages to my girlfriends, joking, funny messages, Savannah redneck messages. Mark, I lean into the media stereotype of me being anti-Semitic. I send Jewish jokes to Mark. Could you imagine? You just get... access to everything.

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And you would just throw it into a lawsuit out of context. And someone has to defend themselves of like, oh, yeah, no, no, I don't hate black people. That's just me talking to my little sister. That's how we speak to each other. That's how we show love. That's what they're asking for. I've got like photos of my kids thighs sent to my husband, sent to a pediatrician. Like, is that a rash?

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Is it eczema? Like you're not getting you have no right to ask for two and a half years of every single message sent from somebody's phone. That is absurd. It is ridiculous. And again, it relies on fundamental stupidity. OK, you believe the public is fundamentally stupid. So I think the game they were playing is they were going to request this. Obviously, they're going to hit back hard.

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Because first and foremost, if you don't know anything about her, I had never heard her name before this scandal. She's kind of branded herself as like the ultimate feminist. You know, she is also Canadian and everything that she does, like I think she majored in women's studies at McGill University. And she's very carefully done work as a big supporter of gender equality. Right.

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Like, first off, the PR people, Melissa, Nathan, who else is on the PR side? They didn't even join this conversation. They didn't even come on until August as crisis PR. Why on earth would they give you two and a half years of messages when they weren't even representing this individual until the very end of this when things went down?

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Oh, I know, because you want everything so you can paint people as horrific people out of context. So I say the best response to this is actually... I strangely feel that two and a half years of Justin Baldoni's messages are going to be really nice. Do you kind of agree? I feel like it's going to be so annoying and he's going to be so painfully nice for two and a half years.

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And I'm just going to give him a noogies. OK, but like Farragate, let him have it. Actually, Brian Friedman, as long as you get to have two and a half years of every single message that Blake and Ryan have ever said. Because I would love to have two and a half years of messages between Blake and Taylor Swift because there is something there.

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My instinct tells me I just know she's doing the abracadabra magic trick and she's going to go away because she knows the public is like onto her. She's very close. Icarus knows when it's flying too close to the sun. OK, Taylor Swift, Icarus knows she's like, oh, she's coming down. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Let's bring you back up. I want two and a half years of your messages. Play the game.

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That's what I think. I say play it because I actually have full faith that Justin Baldoni is not texting his sister racist stuff like I do all the time to my sisters. Both of them actually all the time. I really do. It's terrible. Anyways, we will keep you updated on that.

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But I also want to tell you that we were able to confirm at least one of the posts that Colleen Hoover deleted from her Instagram since returning a couple of days ago. Essentially, she had reposted onto her main page a message that was written and shared on December 22nd.

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So two days after Blake Lively filed her federal complaint in court, actually, sorry, her CRD complaint in Los Angeles, her sisterhood of the Lively Pants friends, actresses, America Ferreira, Amber Rose, Tamlin, and Alexis Bledel, I think is her name. I hope I'm saying that correctly. Anyways, they were her co-stars in a 2005 film, and they have maintained their friendship over years.

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They penned this long letter of support, essentially saying that, quote, Throughout the filming of It Ends With Us, we saw her summon the courage to ask for a safe workplace for herself and colleagues on set. We are appalled to read the evidence of premeditated and vindictive effort that ensued to discredit her voice. OK, blah, blah, blah. You get you get the point there.

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Like they're just like and Colleen Hoover saw this and she decided to repost it onto her Instagram. And this is what she included as the caption underneath the post. She wrote, I thought this note was beautiful and I was going to share it in my stories like I shared my post about Blake in my stories yesterday.

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I wanted to show support, but I had anxiety thinking of putting my post about Blake in my feed and sending myself into a mental spiral from the inevitable comments. They can be vile and over the last year or two, there's been a huge shift in my attitude towards social media.

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She then goes on to say, but this statement from these women and Blake's ability to refuse to sit down and be buried has been nothing short of inspiring. Seeing these three women stand up for their friend when they know good and well they're going to be ripped apart by the people who choose not to accept or read the receipts is inspiring. The answer is simple.

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So if you're thinking that you're going to go down this route, as Blake Lively did, you it would be a perfect person to kind of butter up and say, oh my gosh, you're never going to believe what I lived through on set, which is actually captured on camera and was really nothing.

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We have become a cruel society of judges who expect perfection. Blah, blah, blah. So she makes a very strong statement. And you can now say it was against Justin Baldoni.

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She reposted not only what the Sisters of the Traveling Pants, whatever it's called, Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants wrote, but she also includes her own sentiment and uses that phrase implying that Justin orchestrated this campaign to bury Blake Lively. And so I'm going to say this. Colleen Hoover needs to come out and offer a full-throated apology to Justin Baldoni. She does.

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There's no way around this. There's no escaping this. There's no deleting posts and pretending that it didn't happen. You need to take accountability, okay? You didn't allow him to respond. You didn't allow him to answer. He was the person who brought your book to life and you loved him. You wanted him to play this role.

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You obviously had a good experience with him and you let all of that change because you got a little dizzy-eyed when you saw A-listers that were pumping you with love. The public, by the way, will be incredibly understandable when you say that I believed her. OK, fine. I get that. You're allowed to, upon first instinct, not be able to perceive the level of evil in Hollywood. I get that.

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You're new to the town and you don't understand how these people work. And like I said, I do believe that Me Too has been weaponized in the industry by people like Ari Emanuel who just want to take over people's businesses. OK, and I think they encourage this sort of stuff. And I think maybe Ari Emanuel sees himself in Ryan Reynolds. Right.

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Hungry, willing to do whatever it is, taking over movies, putting credits of things that they didn't do, things that they didn't create. And in the process, kind of creating an empire for yourself. But the reality is, Colleen Hoover, is that you fell for it. You made a strong statement and you hurt this person and you hurt his family. And his kids will have to grow up one day to read that.

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A person who wanted nothing more other than to bring your vision to life. The vision of your readers to life, really. What they saw when they read this book. So you got to put on your big girl pants and you got to apologize. OK, that's all I'm going to say about that topic. All right, guys, throwing it to one of our sponsors, PDS Debt.

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But the other element of this is when we recognize that Ryan Reynolds, and this is Steph with the Deets again, had put her in this program, this documentary called Welcome to Wrexham, essentially. I think it's in like its fourth season. And it's Ryan Reynolds and Rob, I'm going to say his last name wrong, McElneigh,

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Easy to remember, CandiceLikesGold.com. All right, guys. First thing I want to do, by the way, is issue a correction. Yesterday, for those of you, the millions of you that are following the Becoming Brigitte series, it was brought to our attention that we accidentally put up a photo of the wrong David Rothschild when we were covering the connections of Emmanuel Macron and who put him into power.

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We showed this photo. David Mayer de Rothschild, who is actually like an artist environmentalist. He is in the family. Obviously, his father is Evelyn de Rothschild. But the correct photo that we should have shown is David Rene de Rothschild. And he is the one who essentially just magically put Macron into power.

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despite the fact that his colleague said he was an absolute idiot who didn't even know what Ibida stood for. So that is the correct David DeRoth's child. And of course, we always want to make sure that we do so much fact checking here. We want to be accurate and not misidentify someone. All right, guys. Beyond that, RFK being confirmed. Moms rejoice. OK, anti-vax moms rejoice. We won this.

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Plus, in case you missed it, Ari Emanuel, that's their powerful agent over at WME, has now spoken on their behalf on the Freakonomics podcast or the Freakonomics radio show. And great news for us, quote unquote, anti-vaxxers, because RFK Jr. just got confirmed, which makes it the dawn of a new era. I'm just so excited. I really am just so excited. It's already a great start to the year.

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who are essentially documenting the rise of this sports team that we know Ryan Reynolds owns a portion of. And so he flew her out to be a part of this series. I did not actually, because Steph with the Deets didn't show it, see the clip. I did not see what her expertise were that were required for her to participate in this documentary. And ladies and gentlemen, just buckle up. This is amazing.

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We did this. And by the way, to conservative moms, we got to give credit to the left on this one. Crunchy culture came from the left. I'm sorry. It was like crazy lefty moms were the first ones that were getting all weird and granola and everyone thought it was weird and crazy. And then we started jumping on the train. I don't know why it happened for me. Obviously, I was vaccine injured and it.

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There was no information out there for a person who knew. I knew from the time I was 20 I was not going to vax my children. After I got injured from the Gardasil vaccine, I had a mini seizure literally in the room. So there was no gaslighting me. And the doctor said, you shouldn't you shouldn't complete the series.

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There was no way someone was going to gaslight me and tell me that, like, you know, this doesn't happen or like vaccines can't hurt you. And it has been such a climb. The only person that I was able to get resources from was RFK Jr.

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And so for him to be a big reason that I think a lot of people came together on the left and the right and to know that he is now confirmed, the final vote tally was 52 to 48. And it was nearly entirely along party lines to confirm him. I would say on the Republican side, it was just Mitch McConnell confirmed. the only Republican to vote against Kennedy's nomination, which was really strange.

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And his reason for it was he gave this statement. I'm a survivor of childhood polio in my lifetime. I've watched vaccines save millions of lives from devastating diseases across America and around the world. I won't finish that, but I want to let you know that these lies are not going to stand anymore because people are waking up. And that is why

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this blessing of me being able to have a shot in the dark. You know, it's now back up on CandiceOwens.com. For all of you moms that are having children, and you maybe are not at all anti-vax, but you also feel this tremendous pressure from big pharma, you know, the doctors, the pediatricians, everyone that you're looking for, like, vaccines are good, they're amazing.

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And you're like, wait, I don't know anything about this. I at least want to not feel like I'm being spoken to, like they're just using... medical jargon and I'm just an idiot. I want to just know something. It is such a great starting place. I essentially took what I was able to learn from RFK Jr. And I turned it into a podcast called A Shot in the Dark. And it's available on CandiceOwens.com.

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And you should share it with your friends, especially for first time moms. We cover every single vaccine that's on there. And so I'm just very, very happy. It is such a win. And it is a win for all parents who are tired of being lectured. And I do think for that reason, by the way, COVID, COVID was a gift.

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crazy it was, was the shutdowns as crazy as it was with being away from our parents, relatives, the people that had to suffer not even being by the side of their loved ones when they died. What it did do was it fundamentally transformed society.

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And so people who would have been so against this conversation, who would have never allowed for this conversation to happen, would have just screamed, you're an anti-vaxxer, are willing to listen now. because they now realize something is very wrong and something is very deranged with the medical institution. And they're starting to wonder, is it all about profit?

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And my answer to you would be, yes, it is. And you will not be offended watching that series. I am very gentle in going through everything, and I just arm you with the facts, and I give you questions to ask your doctor about every single vaccine that they are trying to push on your children. And so I hope that helps. I know that it will help. I'm very proud of that series.

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I think it's the most important work that I've ever done, truly. By the way, J.D. Vance. OK, don't know how you guys feel about him. Love to hear it. People on the left, I feel like he's actually kind of maybe liked. He's very, very smart, obviously. We did this incredible thing. So he attended the Munich Security Conference. And essentially, this conference has taken place since the 1960s.

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And you're supposed to sit up there and talk about the threats, you know, like the threats to Western establishment, you know, and the It's supposed to be Russia and Iran and everyone gets up there. And this is what we have to do. We have to protect Ukraine, whatever. I'm not into any of that.

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OK, I think maybe the only thing worse than the pharmaceutical industrial complex is the military industrial complex. And we're all missing out. And our countries are not safer. Our cities are not cleaner. And we're constantly being told that we need to get to work because we need to defend somebody else's cities. And it doesn't make any sense to me.

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And I know that's a very conservative perspective. It's one that I stand by. Actually, it used to be a leftist perspective to be anti-war. I don't know. Times have changed. They really have changed. Anyways, J.D. Vance addresses the Munich Security Conference, which is filled, obviously, with all of these state leaders and European state leaders, European politicians.

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If you really want to get into how psychotic Ryan Reynolds is, the fact that he cast her as an expert for this will really clarify that for you. OK, I'm thinking, oh, it's got to be something important. No, she appeared as an expert to deliver to audiences what a definition of a bromance is. Take a listen.

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And they feel so good about themselves. We're Europe. You know, we're the West. We're the best. And he just shreds them for what they've become, what we have all become. I am telling you guys, we have felt a squeeze. America is not as free as we used to be.

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When it comes to speech, when it comes to being able to have a political opinion without the media coming after you, trying to get your entire life canceled. There was no cancel culture in the 90s. You got to go back and see like old episodes of the topics that Oprah was covering. This one would have been called like Adolf Hitler. She literally used to cover satanic cults.

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And when I talked, I even said satanic cult on an old episode of YouTube, my episode got taken down. And, you know, freedom... Our freedoms are removed very slowly. We have to be aware of that.

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And sometimes I think we can be so passionate and so against an individual or so in the web of media lies, like really believing what the media is telling us about someone is true, that we would be willing to give up our freedoms to have that person canceled. You don't realize that it doesn't stop with that person, right? You're giving the media the ultimate power.

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You're giving the media the power to ruin somebody's life. And we don't want to do that. So even if we think we hate one another, we should defend each other's right to speak. And Europe hasn't been doing that as of late. What's going on in Europe is terrifying. They have become exactly what they hate. We were supposed to march in and end wars. God forbid, the Nazis.

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Oh my gosh, you couldn't say things. All of the stuff that you learned, Europe is now becoming that. And J.D. Vance just calls them out on it on stage. It's an amazing clip and that we're going to show you. This is only three minutes of the speech. You should very much go watch the entire thing. But this is what J.D. Vance had to say. Take a listen.

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I just loved this so much because he's essentially looking at these people in the face and saying everything that you claim that we need to go to war to defeat, you have become. You have become totalitarian. Everything that you tell us we should be fearful of in terms of communism. Think about what the entire Cold War, the reason that this was established, was really about.

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Oh, God, God forbid this. This creeps into the United States. You're arresting people for wrong thinking. People show up on your door, at your door, police officers in the UK for wrong think. And for those of you that are following the Becoming Brigitte series, think about how far France has taken it. They're not even just arresting their journalists.

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They're now trying to extend their arm into America and send legal threats to Americans. Truly, I wish J.D. Vance had mentioned that. The absolute gall for this dweeb of a couple to think that they are going to silence our speech, what gives them that authority? It's because, well, things have become incredibly globalist.

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You have the elites at the top who have a lot of power, and you have people like us who are revolting against that power in many different capacities, whether it's, again, against Big Pharma or whether it's against the WEF. We're realizing something is very wrong, and we're losing our individual freedoms, our ability to express ourselves.

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And they try to distract us by turning us against one another. And the most important thing is for us to recognize who holds true power. OK, and I will tell you one thing. It's a lot of people that are in that room. And so for J.D. Vance to do this, a tremendous credit credit to him. Like I said, go listen to his entire speech. They were shocked.

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They were expecting him to get up there and like rah, rah, rah, Russia, rah, rah, rah, Iran. Here's the next war. We got to get to the never ending war that essentially we just money launder money to ourselves and our countries get poorer and And more dilapidated over time. And he just took it right to them. So congrats to J.D. Vance on just an incredible speech, a really brave speech.

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And hopefully it got a lot of people in that room thinking, most of all, Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte, how dare you? Literally, how dare you? All I can say about that. I'm feeling like Greta Thunberg in her heyday, you know? All right, guys, before I get into your comments, I want to remind you about Tax Network USA because the IRS, as you know, is the largest collection agency in the world.

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Or more simply, you can just visit TNUSA.com slash Candace. Again, that's TNUSA.com slash Candace. All right. Let's see what you guys are saying. First up, Butterlimbs. What a name. Right. Hi, Candice. My wife wants to know what are your pregnancy and postpartum workouts that you recommend? Thank you. Sending love from the Bronx.

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You're not going to believe this, but I've actually been working on a pregnancy workout app because obviously people always ask me this question. And I was like, why don't I just create an app? And I said it and my husband built it. So it's kind of incredible. That's kind of how things go. I'm like, I have an idea.

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And then my husband makes everything happen because he's so brilliant and so amazing. And so I will be able to share much more of that with you after I am done giving birth. We've been working on it actually since last year. And the app is functional. I just have a lot of recording that I need to do when I am actually postpartum so that you guys can do the journey with me.

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But I really do believe in anaerobic activity, short workouts, and then a couple of days of long cardio is the short answer. John Ray writes, Blake Lively needs to go away. She's the most useless distraction ever. She has zero fans, as in she brings zero joy to people. We want Macron tea. Listen, well, don't worry about that. The interview with Xavier is dropping on Monday.

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I know it's a day off for most people, so you can literally stay home and watch it in its entirety. You can use the weekend if you have not gotten into the Brigitte series to catch up on it. I am very proud of the work that we did. I'm also proud to announce that Xavier Poussard's book is is at the top of the book charts under politics. And it's number 23 overall, Becoming Brigitte.

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So I presented it. Xavier Poussard wrote the book. I essentially presented his book in the series. And it is 23 overall in Amazon Books, which is incredible. Number one in politics. So you guys did that. Thank you. And his family, who had to uproot their entire lives after being harassed for taxes, I couldn't think of. They so deserve this.

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Eight years of investigative reporting while running from the evil Macron family and their goons. Kimberly writes, before people start causing problems that'll be public, they'll have to calculate the Candace O effect now. Thank you for saying that. But truly, I always just give it back to you guys. You guys are the ones that write in these tips.

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Yes, I get obsessed and I become a psycho, but you guys do too. And that's what's amazing. We just share this knack for realizing that we are bigger than the media. We don't need people like Ari Emanuel and the Hollywood Reporter. Tell us what to think about people. We have eyes, we have ears, and we can research ourselves and we can very clearly see who is wrong in this scenario.

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And it is not Justin Baldoni. Who the hell's John writes, it's strange that Ryan's mom joked about finding Ryan a new dad in that strange promo, considering Justin has spoken in interviews about repairing his rocky relationship with his own father recently. Yeah, I think that was part of what really triggered Ryan about Justin, was Justin was doing a lot of work to...

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kind of go back and make sure that he cured traumas from his childhood, and clearly Ryan had not. He took it as a personal shot. My best guess, as I've said all along, is that Blake opened up to him, as is implied in that skit when the mom says, call me Ryan, that Blake opened up to him about... about Ryan's unresolved trauma. His dad died. He never dealt with it because why would he?

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He was an egomaniac. He wouldn't have dealt with all the issues with his parents and his mom just looks like a victim of Ryan, too. So I know we're supposed to think Ryan's dad was the bad guy, but I would say Ryan probably became his father if he was the bad guy. Very seems controlling, narcissistic, abusive in every clip that I've seen of him now that we know the context of it.

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But anyways, I think you're absolutely right. I think he was very triggered by Justin Baldoni having resolved those issues and found peace in his life. There's a lot in there for all of us, man. Let it go. Let the anger go. Solve the relationships because you don't want to end up like Ryan Reynolds, who, if he wasn't an actor, I'm not saying he would have been a serial killer.

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There you have it, ladies and gents. That's likely why she sold out Justin Baldoni. An amazing opportunity. I mean, how did Ryan Reynolds even approach her for that? When he in his mind, he's like, I just got to make up something because I don't really have anything for her. But we need her on our side. And so he probably flew her out private to the UK for that.

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I'm just interested in what he would have been doing if he wasn't acting. That's all I'm going to say. That's all I'm going to say. Guys, head to CandaceOwens.com if you'd like to support the show and support our independence. Have a wonderful long weekend if you are not if you're one of the many people who are not working on Monday. But we will be here on Monday.

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We're not going to be here physically, but we'll be dropping our Xavier Poussard long-awaited interview to wrap up the Becoming Brigitte series. See you guys then.

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probably said and overpaid her well we can pay you a hundred thousand dollars if you could be our expert yeah i could get that approved budget approved 100k for you to speak on the expertise of the bromance culture and um the significance when you weigh it against women and their friends what What?

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Like, literally, if you need proof that he was just making stuff up and giving people positions, that's it right there. OK, I just need to show you guys that before I even got into the scoop. So you remember last episode we were speaking about this.

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I showed you also Marcos, who's another TikToker who essentially got his video banned because he had received a tip that the Reynolds family was lobbying Jenny Slate to join as a plaintiff. And Jenny Slate was pushing back on that, and he had heard from somebody in the orbit that was true.

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Well, I similarly heard, and I will say to protect myself, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, but I don't know why I'm protecting myself because I do kind of want to be involved in this lawsuit. I'm doing a lot here to be involved in this lawsuit. But I heard on very good authority that the same was done to Liz Plank, okay? So they primed her, got her as an expert of bromance.

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sorry, serious expert of bromances, put her on the show. She's a perfect candidate. She's a feminist. And then they tried to pull the Me Too button. She instantly took their side, jumped off of the podcast with him, made a statement. And then they basically asked her to join in as a plaintiff. And what I was told was like Jenny Slate said, hell no.

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Her and her people have obviously gone through everything, have read the lawsuits like a fuller picture rather than just Blake's emotions. And they do not want to go anywhere near this with a 10-foot pole. And so they are behind the scenes, not just lobbying. Allegedly, Jenny Slate also lists Plank. They are literally looking for any individual that will jump on board and

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and solidify her statements that Justin Baldoni is a creep and they are routinely and continually coming up dry because that's what happens when you lie. Speaking of people who just lie, let's talk about Ari Emanuel, okay? Now, you may have missed this. Ari Emanuel is a very powerful guy. He is... you could argue, the most powerful person in Hollywood, okay? He is the CEO of WME.

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And we have to get to J.D. Vance as well because he just gave an incredibly courageous speech in front of the Munich conference. So I think the best political speech in my recent memory. Let's jump right in. Welcome back to Candace. Okay, Liz Plank. This is very interesting. So in case you're forgetting who she is, Liz Plank was the co-host of the Man Enough podcast alongside Justin Baldoni.

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That is the agency that is involved in this lawsuit. Obviously, the agency that instantly dropped Justin Baldoni when she filed her complaint initially, the CRD complaint in Los Angeles. And essentially, I did not know this, he is actually Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds' agent. So they are his clients. You have the CEO, chairman of WME and Endeavor, and these are his clients.

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So Ari Emanuel decided to appear on the Freakonomics radio podcast show. The episode has not dropped. It played on the radio and it's already broken in the press, but we could not pull the clips yet because they had not yet put it up on their podcast. It's due later today. And he discussed what was going on with Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively.

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And I'm going to quote you what he said, the various quotes. He said, quote, I am a ride or die and they're good people. I've known Ryan and Blake for over a decade. They're really incredible people in Hollywood. They have been incredibly successful. People work with them. They've never had any bad mojo out there or treated people badly. They are charitable. We help them with their foundation.

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They've given tons of money away. He also said, quote, she felt Blake Blake felt that she was not being protected. She complained. And then these people tried to go after her. They should stop. They're still trying to do it. They should stop.

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If what is alleged in her lawsuit that what happened on social media is true just because she complained to the studio that things were unhealthy on set and that he was director and this man was a producer and they did to her what is being alleged, they're really bad people. He then said, quote, social media is a really good thing at times because it lets people stars connect with their fans.

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But Baldoni and Heath used it in an evil way, if that's true. We just have to be cognizant that social media can ruin people and they should no longer be out there intimidating people using social media now and trying to hurt them and abusing them. Baldoni's team should just stop since they think they're innocent and let the process play itself out. out.

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Lastly, he said this, and this is my favorite part of his quotations. He says, I mean, it is an effed up bad situation. What Baloney, Baldoni, whatever his name is, is doing. And then when the host who was speaking with him, who's Stephen Dubner, points out that Baldoni used to be on the WME roster, Ari shoots back, until I fired him. Oh, Ari's so powerful. Big bad until I fired him. Amazing.

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He's so powerful, guys, and he's so cool that he doesn't even remember his name. It's Baloney, Baldoni, whatever your name is, kid. Ari, Starry, Fari, whatever your name is, kid. I don't understand how they do not understand why we do not like them. I mean, just the idea of not even having a decent enough respect to... Say his name, Justin Baldoni.

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He has obviously read through all the messages, but he's just going to come out here and say they're good people because they give money to charity. And I do believe this is what celebrities do. They're terrible human beings. They show up on red carpets like the Amphar Gala in their expensive wear to be seen, to be photographed, and they give away a million dollars. And then guess what, guys?

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That's it. That's their indulgence. That's it. You got to just accept that they're good people. They gave half a million dollars to charity this year. So that doesn't matter how they're treating other people. Okay, then, guys, well, Ari Emanuel is the most powerful guy in Hollywood, and he has spoken out, so I guess case closed. As long as Ryan and Blake are being nice to billionaires, right?

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Why are we upset? Do you hear that? Oh, they're probably also nice to Oprah, I'd imagine, and Mark Zuckerberg. And hey, obviously, they've been friends with Taylor Swift for 10 years. So clearly, if you have enough money, which Ari Emanuel does— Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds will be nice to you. So what exactly is the problem here?

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All your little mom sleuths, everybody following this case and reading the messages and seeing how horrific they are, reading the messages they sent, okay? Not imagining how they treated them. Being able to read the messages, being able to see how they were speaking to people behind the scenes, calling herself, oh, I could just have very powerful people ruin your life. I've got dragons.

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So, yeah, I guess we're supposed to just accept what Ari Emanuel says because they think we're stupid. OK, people in Hollywood think people like you and I are stupid. We're too stupid to recognize that what he is doing clearly for all you guys. We're just a bunch of midwits is protecting a business asset. OK, he makes millions off of them.

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He wants them to be successful because he collects millions off of them. That's what it means to be an agent. You sign deals. I take a piece of it. He does not want their brand to die because it hurts his pockets. But he's trying to pitch it to you another way because he thinks, again, you're a bunch of binwits. OK, so let's get into who Ari Emanuel is in general. Per Bloomberg.

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he has a personal net worth of at least $1 billion. He also owns TKO Stakeholdings, which has both the UFC and the WWE under its umbrella. Interesting story, by the way. I think he's got to be a guy who likes Me Too because Endeavor did a deal with UFC. I mean, did a deal with WWE and the McMahon family owned it forever.

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Suddenly, Vince McMahon gets Me Too'd and he sells off a bunch of his stake to Endeavor, which made Ari... certainly a lot richer. So I don't know. Maybe this is just a repeat strategy in Hollywood. I've long suspected that the Me Too movement was actually being authored by men behind the scenes. And now I'm interested in that. And we'll get to that later. Okay.

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He is the CEO, as I mentioned, of the Endeavor Talent Agency, which is the multi-billion dollar talent agency, which has subsidiaries in including Wall Group, Art Plus Commerce, M2M, the model management firm that you've heard of, IMG Models, that represents Gigi Hadid, Gisele Bundchen. Last year, it was reported that he took home $64.9 million, okay?

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It's like he enjoys a $65 million pay package as the CEO of the TKO Group. And don't even get me started on his brother, Rahm Emanuel, who bankrupted Chicago. Absolute crook. He should be in prison. And then there's his other brother, Ezekiel, known as Zeke.

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zeke geek leak were we rhyming ari here whatever his name is okay he's a pharmaceutical lobbyist who was on the covid 19 advisory board so you know like stay at home save lives let grandma die alone trust the science and essentially ari's picking up the same thing he wants you to simply trust the science when it comes to blake and ryan he wants you to accept that blake and ryan are always kind to billionaires

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And then as soon as Blake Lively filed her complaint, Liz Plank was out, instantly said she quit, you know, a show of support and solidarity with Blake after everything dropped. And people began looking into it.

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So I want you to remember that the next time that you are thinking about this and you are reading their own words and understanding what they said, I want you to stop yourself and say, but I bet they've been really nice to Jeff Bezos. It sounds like they're really nice to Gigi Hadid. And I'm sure Blake Lively would be really sweet to someone like Gisele Bundchen. So what's the big deal?

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Seriously, guys, these billionaires are just not like us at all. Essentially, they believe that they are in a class of society in which it is perfectly permissible to align yourselves with evil people so long as it earns you revenue. Because that's what Ari Emanuel is saying. Like these people, they're great. They earn me revenue. I'm richer than them, so they're nice to me.

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And the rest of you need to booger off because these are my assets. That's what he's saying. Which is why I think it's fine for us, if we want to listen to him, to completely ignore the fact that something I reported on my Instagram stories yesterday, that there are people who are speaking out about how they have been abused, which he just doesn't see it anymore. He doesn't see it anywhere.

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Social media is a bad thing sometimes, he says, because then people can get around us. We control The Hollywood Reporter. We can control Deadline. We can control The New York Times. But man, those moms on Insta, what are they doing? They're snooping and they're finding stuff like what we found when we came across Barbara Zeman. Now, who is Barbara Zeman?

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She was the fourth assistant director for A Simple Favor, the first movie, the first installment of the film with Blake Lively and Anna Kendrick. And the actor who played Blake's husband in that film is reprising his role in the second film, which is due to drop any day. And it's this guy named an actor named Henry Golding.

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So he posted a promotional poster for the film on his Instagram, which is another simple favor. It's coming out. And Barbara, the former fourth assistant director, wrote this. She wrote, I worked with you on the first one. My experience with everyone was absolutely amazing, except for a certain someone who is the reason I quit being an AD. Guess who that person is?

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And particularly there was this TikToker, Steph with the Deets, who had showed that perhaps the reason that motivated her to get on the side of Blake Lively without actually looking into anything or at least speaking to her

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I wish you all the best with this, though. So she posted that. Internet sleuths caught it. It started circulating. And then a bunch of people were commenting, essentially, like asking her to expand more on what happened, offering her support. And then six days later, she replied in the comment section and she wrote, thanks for the kindness.

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I want to avoid attention around this, but I will say, referring to Blake, she was cruel to many. I know I cried my way home many nights because you try so hard to please someone who is never pleased and puts you down constantly. I can't believe it's actually getting back at her. Karma is real. And this obviously blew up partially because I shared it, other people shared it.

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All right, guys, it's Friday, and LeBron James appears to have officially lost the thread. He doesn't want people to notice that his son is not performing well at the NBA level, at the big league level, which, by the way, should come as a shock to nobody because, like I noticed... Many people have noticed this. His son wasn't performing well before the NBA. So this is a little bit of nepotism.

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His dad created an impossible situation for him. He's a make a wish kid in the NBA. I just hope his dad's insatiable ego doesn't ruin his love for this beautiful game. I agree with that. That is a totally sensible commentary. Bronny doesn't actually deserve any of this heat. But LeBron fully does. And that's why he's so angry. He knows he deserves this.

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It is an insatiable eagle that put your son in this circumstance in the first place. And he's just basically saying, stop noticing. Pretend my son is brilliant at this game to make me happy in my final years on the court. And people are not going to do that. But I want to say this. You can be mad at me all you want because that's okay. I can actually deal with criticism.

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Bronnie James, this situation with LeBron James and what his father has done via nepotism is actually living, breathing proof as to why conservatives believe that affirmative action doesn't work, okay?

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When you give people opportunities or put them into circumstances that they haven't actually earned, when it's not a meritocracy and you force someone into a position that they haven't actually earned and you artificially place them, into places that they don't belong. Disaster. It can be the only endpoint. And I actually learned this. I'm pretty sure this was from Shelby Steele.

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This was the book that I read, White Guilt by Shelby Steele, How Blacks and Whites Together Destroyed the Promise of the Civil Rights Era. And at this time, I was liberal and started to get conservative interested and wanted to at least read and learn more about the arguments because, oh, how could you disagree with affirmative action? We had all of these years of slavery.

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And then he put it so succinctly when he was describing this time period, and I'm paraphrasing here, and I hope it's Shelby Steele and not a Thomas Sowell book that I read that I'm confusing it with. But essentially, he was an adjunct professor at Cornell University. And he noticed that all of these Black kids were on academic probation. And he thought that was very strange.

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And he went to go investigate, like, why are all of these Black students on academic probation? And what he learned was that while these students were some of the most brilliant in the entire nation— Because of affirmative action, they were placed into schools that they wouldn't have gotten into otherwise.

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These are like these fun moments of English and American marriages because obviously my husband, Raj, watches cricket. I have no idea really what cricket is. And he genuinely had never heard of t-ball. But of course, he wouldn't be that person. And beyond that, I want to say this to parents. Please do not pressure your children to do what you are doing in life, okay?

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So you force them to be at Cornell University and they're competing now with peers that aren't really their peers. Whereas if you had allowed them to be where they're supposed to be, maybe they would have been at a different university that wasn't Ivy League. They would have been at the top of their class. So it's exactly what's happening with Bronny, right?

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You've artificially placed him amongst a group of people that he's not supposed to be with. He can't play at this level. And so for him, he walks away and he feels like a failure. He feels like I'm on academic probation. I can't ball. Why am I doing the sport? And it just it completely deflates these individuals.

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And he, Shelby Steele, when he investigated this, he was speaking about how so many of these kids then just dropped out. But imagine if they went to like the University of Rhode Island, they would have been like graduating cum laude and would have been like, yeah, I'm amazing and would have had the confidence that they deserved.

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Because like I said, he assessed that they were something like in the top 90 percentile of all students, but were artificially placed at Cornell University where they were failing amongst their peers. Bronny is making this mistake. He is making this mistake. His father, rather, LeBron James, is making this mistake.

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He is actually harming his son, giving his son this deflated sense that he doesn't deserve because he's actually a good basketball player. He's a good basketball player. He's just not ready and never has been ready to be in the NBA. And then there's this, by the way, I want to say this.

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If you are going to make the argument that your child does deserve to be there still, LeBron James, you should know that when you do something like that, it makes it 10 times harder for him. OK, because that's daddy crying. That's like daddy saying, like, we're rich and powerful and you will do and say and give my son the grades that he deserves, even though he doesn't deserve them.

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And now he's got to go back to the G League team. Everybody's watched this moment. Everybody knows this moment is about him. And what do you think that How that how that feels when the dad freaks out at the Little League game and he yells at someone, the commentator, the whoever it is. What do you how do you think that child feels when he goes amongst his playmates after that?

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He feels more out of place. He feels like he's not wanted. He feels like everybody is looking at him like, oh, well, you know, I would correct your game, but I don't want your daddy to yell at me. And I want your daddy to come and scream at me. Like, come on, man. This is just the price of success and fame. And if you think about this trade-off, I don't even really even feel bad for Bronny, okay?

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Because his life is amazing. He is one of the most privileged people ever. He's even in the NBA because of his remarkable privilege. And so if the worst thing you think your son has to deal with in life is a little bit of criticism, then you are way too privileged, LeBron James. I mean, like there's like real life happening outside of the NBA. It's OK. He will survive.

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Stephen A. Smith criticizing him rightfully so. If this is his cross to bear in life, your father is so famous that people are noticing that you don't belong in the room that your father put you in. Yeah, I'd say that is a pretty good life situation. So LeBron, stop crying. Seriously, stop crying. And Bronny, I hope you're able to get out of this situation in some regard.

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Greatness cannot necessarily be transferred. Neither, by the way, can mediocrity. That is to say that some rather mediocre people can birth greatness. individuals that go on to do great things. And some great people can birth people that go on to do mediocre things. And it's not a problem. Everybody is different. And what people want and desire out of life is very different.

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And just know that I agree with everybody saying that the issue really is your father. It's not you. And you shouldn't allow this to make you think that you're not that you don't have worth. You're just in the wrong room. And secondly, you shouldn't allow this to make you hate the game or dislike the game or want to run away from the game because you were good.

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All right, speaking of not spiking your ball and going home, obviously I have endured and seen all of your tweets and your videos and the journalists and the reporters which are calling out this tweet that went out from Jeremy Boring, who I used to work for at The Daily Wire. So just to back this up, Obviously, I was promoting yesterday on the show for whatever.

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This was just obviously just the way it worked out. But I did Theo Vaughn's show, which was hilarious and very fun. And we showed you clips of that. And it was like a three hour podcast and at the same time running parallel to that Ian Carroll podcast. did Joe Rogan's podcast.

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So in case you are not a sports person like me, I'll say that right at the top. I'm not a sports person. I'm a common sense person. Let's just discuss the facts regarding Bronny James, LeBron James Jr. That is LeBron James's firstborn son. And I want to be clear here that it was entirely an act of sheer nepotism that brought him into the NBA.

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And people began connecting the dots here because obviously with absolutely no coordination at all between the parties, both of these podcasts were released within hours of each other. And a very small portion of my conversation was about Israel. And I would say a larger portion, but again, not the majority of the conversation was about Israel and our allegiance to Israel.

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And so some people who have an allegiance to Israel that or maybe disagree with that position or a point, we're not happy about these podcasts, which were sort of dominating the conversation on X. And Jeremy Boring, the co-CEO of the Daily Wire, tweeted this. Yesterday was a terrible day for American Jews.

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The embrace by so many prominent voices of demented, conspiratorial, anti-Jewish voices is one of the saddest, most alarming events in my lifetime. But this way lies madness and worse than madness. Do not let the times cost you your soul. Audience capture and unchecked tribalism are tools of the devil. Paranoia and revisionism are too.

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Even if they really are out to get you, heck, even a righteous cause can lead us to evil if we don't guard our hearts in the quest. The wicked often prosper, and the temptation to prosper often tempts us to join them, but only God offers the richness of salvation, and he already became for us the only Jewish scapegoat for our sin and fear. Leave the rest of them alone.

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Okay, so you guys know my response to this. Look, um... I am a believer in free speech. I am a believer in the free markets. I'm going to consistently be a believer in the free markets and in free speech. And what I will say is that some people read that and it perhaps resonated with them and they want more of that content.

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And if you want more of that content, you should follow Jeremy Boring on X and follow him in other endeavors. You know, I think our conversations, and again, I think it was rational to assume that these were about me and Ian. I loved the podcast on the other side of that.

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Like, my personal opinion is the podcast between Ian and Joe Rogan was super interesting, and they both seemed really upbeat and happy. And Joe Rogan seemed very excited. I finished it last night. It took me a couple of days to get through it. But he seemed really excited in a way that I haven't seen him in a while because they were just...

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speaking about ideas even, like just kind of like the permission to think and to know things and what books to read. And I was totally engaged. And I know that something like 1.5 million of you, maybe more today, that was yesterday, watched me and Theo Vaughn's podcast. And I just want to focus on what I am putting out there. That's what the free market is, right? So... Love that for Jeremy.

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Want you guys to follow Jeremy Boring for more of those considerations. And if you would rather, or at the same time, he doesn't even need to be in either or, if you want to watch my stuff and Theo Vaughn's stuff, I want you to be open to do that too. I thought we had a really good time on Theo Vaughn's podcast. And I think Ian Carroll had a great time on Joe Rogan's podcast.

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So for clarity, um, he, I would say LeBron James sort of wanted to sketch his firstborn son in his name and likeness, so to speak. And early on, by the way, I mean, this kid was like 10 years old and he was playing basketball and LeBron James spoke about how he was getting all of these offers and it was sort of inappropriate.

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And so just to share another clip of the Theo Vaughn podcast. Because again, I am about putting out there what I like and what I believe in. And I got to tell you, sometimes McDonald's slaps. I love McDonald's. And I didn't realize how absolutely hilarious this clip was of Theo Vaughn until after the fact because his brain works in very mysterious ways.

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He just says a lot of stuff that's super funny. And one of the things was me asking him about what his order is at McDonald's. I wanted to know who he was. And here's how that went. Take a listen. I need to know. What's your meal at McDonald's? I judge everybody by this. So be very careful.

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Do you add any Big Mac sauce to that?

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That's an okay order. I mean, it's not fun, but it's okay.

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What in the field on earth? We ride here.

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Because they only have like 10 because no one orders them.

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Wait, stop a double cheeseburger with a double milk jug?

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It still makes me laugh. There's so much that happened there. Why did they call his sister a little milk jug? Because she's shaped like a little milk jug. That's Theo Vaughn for you, guys. I think he's just such a hilarious comedian and his brain works in mysterious ways. Actually, my producer told me that there was a tweet on the internet. I should have quoted the person.

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We should have pulled it. But they said, Theo Vaughn utters at least one sentence a day that has never been uttered in human history. And I think that pretty much sums up Theo Vaughn. I probably eat McDonald's once a year traveling or something, but I would not order the milk jugs. And I find that to be more problematic than anything.

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And I think we got to get to the bottom of why he is ordering milk jugs at McDonald's. Anyways, you guys all love and I hope you guys enjoy that full episode. Moving on now, Blake Lively is going to Haft. to deliver her pound of flesh for a simple favor, too. And this is going to be very interesting to watch.

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I think already, obviously, her PR team is trying to make it look like she's a victim and she's scared. Like, come on, dude, she's not terrified of anything. But popped up on an A-list red carpet to an event that she was not required to be at in the form of the SNL 50th anniversary, and there was a bunch of celebs there, and her husband told a joke.

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And I want to say two things here from the business side of things for a bunch of colleges to be wanting to draft him makes sense. It the marketing potential to have LeBron James Jr. is there.

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So this is kind of trying to make the public feel bad. Like, oh my gosh, she now has anxiety about going out in the public. And like I said... Sometimes your actions have to meet up with your consequences. They got to run into each other occasionally, right? And then you just introduce them and go, yeah, hey, we actually are kind of related.

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And so the Daily Mail is running this headline saying that she's terrified. She's absolutely terrified, you guys, ahead of the Simple Favor premiere. The insiders, otherwise known as her PR firm, are wanting people to know that she's terrified. But what's interesting is thinking about how this is going to harm Anna Kendrick. That's her co-star in A Simple Favor 2.

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And essentially, and I've actually been reading this, Anna Kendrick is very upset with how this has been handled. Obviously, she knows it's going to impact the success of the movie, something that she doesn't deserve. And she basically is upset because... Blake Lively apparently fought for top billing in this film. And these are things that we don't even consider as the public.

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But even when you see a movie poster, that's a fight between people of who's going to be on the movie poster, who's going to be presented as a star of this film. What level are they going to be on? How small is the picture going to be on?

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And now that we know that Blake Lively is quite aggressive in general during these movie negotiations, it was revealed that she was similarly aggressive about The Simple Favor 2 and she wanted to be featured prominently. And I'm sure maybe she would have had a different opinion about that if she had known which way the Justin Baldoni suit was going to go in terms of the public.

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But she is indeed now due to you want to be front facing, you have to be front facing, and she is going to have to walk the red carpet. Now, listen, I want to be clear. They will prepare for that a million different ways. They will tell journalists what they can and cannot ask. Her PR firm will only walk her up to certain friendly journalists.

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So there was a business consideration of saying, honestly, just having you here, no matter how great you are, or maybe you're just average, it doesn't matter because there is, like I said, strong brand potential. Bronny, of course, did play basketball in high school. And I want to be clear, he was good. He's not a bad player by any stretch of an imagination. He is good.

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So this apprehension is kind of, like I said, just trying to make people feel bad and like I think it's kind of perfect karma that now there's this apparent friction between her and Anna Kendrick, like friction with real friction with her co-star because she wanted Blake Lively to address her ongoing battle with Baldoni. And she could have pulled out of this lawsuit a long time ago.

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They're already taking it way too far. There obviously now is this big elephant that's in the room that no one wants to acknowledge. And they're going to walk this red carpet and not acknowledge it unless, of course, Ryan Reynolds walks the red carpet with her and makes a couple of Ryan Reynolds jokes, a couple of Deadpool jokes in his perfect style.

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My guess is she's not going to bring him because he's almost more disliked than she is and that her promo game is just to pretend that she's really scared of the public now when she was the person who initially wanted all of this to be publicized because she was so confident in her power and her husband's power when it came down to it ends with us.

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Speaking of which, a filing which the public is not reporting on just yet. It looks like Justin's team has responded now to Sloan PR. So Sloan PR, just to bring you up that chart again, is the PR firm that has been repping Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds for like a decade, which made those text messages that Ryan Reynolds sent so funny. Like, hey, it's Leslie. Hey, Leslie, don't worry.

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I won't do or say anything about Justin Baldoni. That's not what we want. We don't want any publicity. It was like so fake to me. It looked totally like doctored messages ahead of them dropping the New York Times article so that they could say they had nothing to do with it. Obviously, it looks like they had plenty to do with it. And so anyways, the Sloan parties want out.

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And if you're paying attention to these legal arguments that are being made, they're essentially making this argument that like trade secrets could be exposed if they were subpoenaed. And Brian Friedman's team has been like, what trade secrets are you so concerned are going to be exposed? Like the trade secret. that you helped plant an article in the New York Times and it was nasty?

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Is it gonna be like trade secrets of text messages between you and Blake and speaking about Taylor Swift and laughing? Like, what are we gonna see that are the trade secrets that are gonna be exposed? So they have been trying to quietly exit this lawsuit by basically saying, we're not needed here. We're just the PR firm.

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And it's like actually this entire lawsuit, as Judge Lehman accurately pointed out yesterday, comes down to PR. Like you're not getting out of this lawsuit. I'm saying this obviously with absolutely no authority.

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But like I said, judging on his statements yesterday, Judge Lehman saying that this is coming down to PR people, I highly doubt that they are going to allow them to wiggle their way out of this, nor should they. And so in their response to Leslie saying, we want to be dropped from this because we're women, she keeps making these weird feminist weak arguments. Wayfarer parties wrote this.

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He averaged around 14 points per game at the high school level. And for those of you, for those of us, rather, who remember high school and cheerlead, if you were scoring 14 points per game at that level, you're good. Again, not exactly a necessary free ride to the NBA. You're not exactly going straight to the NBA. You're nowhere near going straight to the NBA.

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They wrote the conspirators referring to first aim to win. Plaintiff Blake Lively, total control over the film. She's like, Leslie Sloan, you are implicated in trying to get her the control that she wanted over the film. It ends with us by means of extortionate threats to go public with her baseless claims of sexual harassment. That effort wholly succeeded.

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Having seized complete creative control over the film and its marketing, Lively had only herself and her publicist, Leslie Sloan, and Sloan's company, Vision PR, incorporated to blame when her disastrously tone-deaf marketing efforts for the film plowed her public reputation straight into the ground.

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In a desperate effort to salvage Lively's reputation and to escape her wrath, the Sloan parties conspired with Lively and consolidated defendants Ryan Reynolds and The New York Times Company to make scapegoats of the Wayfarer parties for Lively's woes.

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On information and belief, the Sloan parties worked for months to drop breadcrumbs and hints of sinister allegations to the public while secretly feeding defamatory falsehoods to any reporter who would listen, including Megan Toohey of The New York Times. As a direct result of the actions of the Sloan parties and their co-conspirators, the Wayfarer parties lost have been damaged beyond measure.

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Their reputations are destroyed, their businesses lie in tatters, and their own film was taken from them. These are the facts underpinning the Wayfarer Party's allegations against the Sloan parties, and this is what the evidence will prove at trial.

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The motion should therefore be denied in its entirety or in the alternative, the court should grant the Wayfarer Party's leave to amend their First Amendment complaint and allow them to move forward with holding the Sloan parties to account for their part in Lively's malicious and calculated scheme." I mean, it's so well said. It would be insane to let them out of this lawsuit.

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And they are correct. There were all these breadcrumbs first. It's how the public even found out that there was drama. And Leslie Sloan has very strong connections at TMZ, at Page Six. And she basically planted all of these ideas. That's what it looks like to me that... People didn't like him on set.

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And there was a reason that everybody had mass unfollowed him in the Taylor Swift move and that there were allegations of HR complaints. All of that was happening leading up to it. And there's no way that Blake Lively was communicating directly with these journalists. That's the reason that you have a PR firm in the first place. And so that filing is happening.

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We're going to talk about that. Apparently he freaked out because no one's allowed to criticize his son. No one's allowed to criticize Bronny. And so he freaked out on Stephen A. Smith court side. And it's trending and it's interesting.

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I think Brian Friedman's team has made a very strong argument for why they shouldn't be dropped. But we will continue to monitor all of that. All right, you guys, just want to remind you about Seven Weeks Coffee because you drink coffee, so why not do a good thing while you drink it? They are America's pro-life coffee company on a mission to fund the pro-life movement one cup of coffee at a time.

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In fact, for comparison, his father, LeBron James, averaged 31.6 points in his senior year of high school. That's why he was drafted right away. Kobe Bryant averaged 30.8 points in high school. Kyrie Irving, 26.5 points per game. Michael Jordan, 25 points per game. He's one of those stories that he kind of went up from there. And yeah, but still 14 points per game. There's no reason to hate.

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So visit sevenweekscoffee.com and use promo code Candice. Sorry I said seven so loud. I don't know. My voice just went very loud at that moment. Speaking of Lent, what did you guys give up for Lent? I gave up processed sugar and bread for the Catholics out there. And also I am giving up my phone on Saturday evenings until Sunday. It's like my very own Shabbat because I think that's healthy.

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I think it's good to just kind of zone out for a little bit. And that's something that I'm giving up that will actually add value to my life. And it's good. It's good to do these sorts of things. And it was really hard for me to fast on Lent, but I did it. I was very proud of myself, like trying to get a pregnant person to fast. It was just a lot. Anyways, let's get into some of your comments.

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What do you guys have for me? Intelligent observer writes, I love how LeBron is worshipped like a god, but Catholics are demonized for venerating saints. Only a matter of time until his many NDAs come to light and we see how much of a saint he really is. You know, my commentary on LeBron James is the same on Taylor Swift and the same on All of these people who find fame really young.

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LeBron James, obviously remarkably talented. You can, you know, hate the player, but you can't hate the game. Or in this circumstance, I guess I'm saying you can hate the game, but you can't hate the player. LeBron James is an excellent player. But I think he also suffers from arrested development.

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Like he was literally taken out of high school and turned into a star and everyone started calling him the king. Like, that can't be good. You don't want to just be like called the king from the time of your 18 years old. And I think it's gone a little bit to his head. He's a little gassed on that.

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I mean, even making those statements of like, this is what I'm going to do and I'm going to play with my son no matter what. That's quite monarchy. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. He's like, I have full power here. I am a monarch and I will get whatever it is that I want. And he kind of forced this thing. And now he wants to back out and pretend that he didn't do that.

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But like I said, the comments, you can go through them. This is what he said. This is what he did. You can hate me for telling you that. But that's what happens when you just have too much power. You need people to tell you no. It is so important in life for people to tell you no. That's why I say having toddlers is such a humbling experience, right?

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Because they're just so honest all the time and they don't really, they have no idea what I do for a living. They don't care about anything. And it's the only way that I think someone of, His first off, I would say like his physical prowess, his success, his financial prowess is going to be brought back down to earth. This is people saying, you know what the Lakers should have said.

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It's been great. It's been a great ride. LeBron James, we love you, but I'm not just going to offer your son a deal or else you're not going to play with us. That's just really bratty. They would have never said that to him because he's LeBron James and they want to make money. All right, Sarah writes, can you shout me out, please? I delivered my, no, you didn't. Oh, I read this comment.

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She said, I delivered my 40th baby today. And I was like, why are you lying, Sarah? But then I read the second part. I'm now a qualified midwife. Yes, you did deliver your 40th baby today and congratulations. Dreams Are Lies writes, because you're so awesome and in case you need bodyguards, thank you so much for that donation.

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Anonymous writes, handing out opportunities just for DEI without considering merits or qualifications undermines individuals with appropriate qualifications, especially regarding promotions. Opportunities should provide financial support to students in academia who Yes, it does not help them. Yes. You should really read Clarence Thomas. You should read his dissents.

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He has been working hard to get affirmative action overturned for this reason. It's not he's not saying black people don't deserve anything. He is saying you're harming these students who are plenty capable themselves and sometimes are so great and would be at the top of their classes somewhere else. Stop forcing them where they don't belong. Like Bronny, maybe he just belongs in the G League.

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And like I said, he's I think the number four scorer. On his G League team, which is great. I mean, competing amongst his peers. That is the whole point is like, do not deflate their sense of self, their sense of worth for no reason when they aren't bad. He's not bad. He's just doesn't belong playing alongside his father just because of his father's ego. So I hope that makes sense.

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He plays basketball and he's good at playing basketball. And I'm sure he was very fun to watch when he was in high school. Beyond high school, he played just one season at USC. Now you guys don't remember the press on this. He had like that cardiac arrest, terrible event. And right when he was beginning to play for USC, then he got better and he was able to play, I think something like 26 games.

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And I hope genuinely hope that Brian takes that to heart. And that his dad never does that crass thing again of I mean, he could have done that privately. He could have been like, can somebody bring him to the locker room? But it's almost like he wanted to do that. Like he's like I said, he's just high in his own supply. And he just wanted to go up to him and say something publicly.

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And no one can done LeBron James. And like I said, that's only going to hurt his son more. His son is going to look absolutely ridiculous at the end of that. Nicole writes, loved the Theo interview. So good. Have a great weekend. Yes, I should actually check and see how many of you guys watched that because I forgot to check today. But I was grateful because I had such a fun time.

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And it was like I said, Theo Vaughn is very funny. And if you like it, you like it. If you don't, you don't. Like I said, that's how the free markets works. I'm not going to spike my ball and go home. People are allowed to criticize me. People can say things about me.

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And I just have to accept that if one day if I'm in the podcast big leagues and if one day people don't want that anymore because they don't like what I'm offering, then that's my own fault, you know. And so I appreciate we've already had such an amazing year. And we really are having so much fun. And so we will end that there.

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Reminding you guys, if you want to go to canastones.com and support independent journalism, you can get my book. It's available for presale. Make them a sandwich. Gems in here. Gems. You will love this as I break down the feminist movement and everything that is wrong with it because we've been sold a bill of lies. And you got to go back to the history.

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You got to go back to the beginning to realize how we got here, how we started with what we were told was a movement that was designed to empower women, too many women being miserable. working jobs that don't fulfill them, but feeling that pressure to keep working it because you have to compete with men. We should talk about all of that. And we do that in the book.

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So if you go to CandiceOwens.com. Also, you can sign up for our book club. We are still reading. I think next week we meet again. And guess what, guys? The live chat is going to be ready for my book club people. We are still reading Chaos. It's amazing. I love it. This is I think also, by the way, that is what Joe Rogan and Ian Carroll spoke about because Tom O'Neill was on Joe Rogan's podcast.

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That book is incredible. It will totally blow your mind about everything. So even if you don't join the book club and don't want to speak about the book with me, you should read it because it's great. But only read it after you read my book, which is available for presale. So me first, Tom O'Neill. Tom O'Neill is doing way too great right now. And what else do we have going on on the website?

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But yeah, the live chat is going to be ready, which makes me so excited because I felt like we needed that. And we're just going to keep making the book club bigger and greater. And it's already big, which is incredible. I never expected so many people to sign up right away, but I love it. And then you guys see in the comments here asking, when is the Harvey stuff coming back on the show?

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I am sorry to have kept you waiting that long. It takes so much time to read through these transcripts. And literally last night, My baby boy got sick, vomited everywhere. They picked up a bug. You know, they have these like indoor play stuff, things in Tennessee. And they're just grimy at the end of the day. And my son, first, my older son was sick.

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And then my youngest son, who's just a year and gosh, how old is he? Gosh, I was like a year and four months. Crazy. Time really flies. He got sick, honestly. And then he got sick this morning. Literally two hours before we went live, guys, I had vomit on my sweater like I was Eminem, like it was mom's spaghetti. It was crazy, but it wasn't mom's spaghetti. It was baby's vomit.

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It's just kind of the price of being a mom. You just got to go, OK, everything's got to stop for a little bit. We'll kick it to next week. But I promise you on Monday, barring anything crazy that happens over the weekend, I will have the time to go through the transcript. We are moving on to Jessica Mann, who is the second person. She put Harvey in jail for three years. And it's crazy.

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It just gets every story just gets crazier and crazier. And I maintain my position that Harvey Weinstein was wrongly convicted as an act of social justice for the Me Too movement, not an act of true justice, which is what we fight for here on the show. All right, guys, we will see you on Monday.

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But he averaged, during those games, he averaged less than five points per game. In his lone season at USC at the collegiate level, he averaged less than five points per game. And that was apparently all the NBA needed to see, okay?

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I want to be clear here that not even LeBron James can deny what happened next was an act of sheer nepotism because in 2022, LeBron James told The Athletic, quote, my last year will be played with my son. Wherever Bronny is at, that's where I will be. I would do whatever it takes to

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to play with my son for one year it's not about the money at that point so what is he saying he is saying this is my dream me lebron james the dad the father this is my dream i don't even care about the money i just want that moment of playing with my son and sure that's sweet okay i love a little fairy tale i love a little you know daddy and me fairy tale of playing together

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But to pretend that he didn't say that, to pretend that didn't happen, to pretend that there was no consideration for the Lakers or any team that was looking at LeBron James, that like he is saying that no matter what, this must happen or he's not going to play. It's a nonsense. You're just now you're just gaslighting the public. OK, sure enough, in 2024.

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Also, yes, you guys, I have seen your emails and your tags on X regarding the Daily Wire co-CEO Jeremy Boring's tweet, which people are reasonably inferring to be about me and Theo Vaughn and Ian Carroll on Joe Rogan. So I'm, of course, going to give you my response to that tweet. All that coming up on Candace. All right, parents, listen up. Listen up, parents.

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Bronny signed a four-year, $7.9 million contract with the Los Angeles Lakers. He was the 55th pick of the NBA draft. And if you're wondering if there were other motivations with that pick, well, I can tell you this. He was picked on the very same day that LeBron James agreed to an extension with the Los Angeles Lakers. that making them the first father-son duo in the history of the NBA.

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And to be clear, that's what that was about. It was the story. They wanted the story. They didn't care about the practicality, the potential movies that would be written, the movie scripts that could be written in the future. They wanted the feelings. They didn't really care so much about the facts in that moment. By any means necessary, I don't care about the money.

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I want to make this happen, okay? So LeBron James's dream was realized. I'm saying, again, LeBron James, dad's dream was realized in October when on the opening day of the Lakers season, he was able to play with his son. And the headlines of that moment met the emotions of the moment. Here was the press coverage on that day via the Associated Press.

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LeBron James and Bronny James became the first father and son to play in the NBA together Tuesday night during the Los Angeles Lakers season opener. LeBron and Bronny checked into the game together with four minutes left in the second quarter, prompting a big ovation from a home crowd aware of the enormity of the milestone.

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LeBron had already started the game and he had played 13 minutes before he teamed up with his 20-year-old son to make history. Okay, beautiful. Love that. Obviously, LeBron James is the 39-year-old top scorer in NBA history, while LeBron James Jr. was a second-round pick from the Lakers last summer.

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As I said, they reiterated in these articles that they were the first father and son to play in the world's top basketball league at the same time, let alone on the same team, which is just, whew, this is amazing. But here's the thing. The facts always eventually catch up with the feelings. The dream, so to speak, catches up with reality.

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Of course, people are going to note that your son is just not you at some point and that you're basically sort of deluding yourself by pretending that your son is as amazing and worthy of playing alongside you in the big league. Now, I should be clear that Brawny is playing primarily for the Lakers G League team, the South Bay Lakers.

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And those of you that don't know much about that, it's essentially like the minor league team where you're supposed to develop your skills and potentially play for the big league one day. They can like the big league. The Lakers can call you up. They can call up their G League players if they need them. And at the G League level, Brawny, he's playing great.

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Like he's he he fits in there at that level. I think he's something like the number four scorer overall on the G team roster. And like I said, that's good. But what makes Bronny unusual is how much play time he is getting on the Lakers team. Okay. Bronny is starting games for the Lakers. He's played thus far in 18 games this season. And here's the rules. Let me tell you how it works.

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If you want to play in the big leagues, then you're going to have to deal with big league criticism. Okay. No one gets to go around that. You don't get to say, well, my daddy's LeBron James, and he says I shouldn't have to listen to any criticism at all.

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So recently, on January 28th, Bronny played again for the Lakers alongside his father against the Philadelphia 76ers, and he played for 15 minutes straight, and he did not score a single point. Now, apparently, according to Stephen A. Smith, it's sort of this unspoken rule that even in the world of sports commentating, you're not really allowed to criticize LeBron's son.

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OK, and Stephen A. Smith obviously has been a sports commentator forever. He told the truth about Bronny's performance. He said that he started getting a ton of text messages from people who were like, you can't do that. You can't question because he's looking at the situation going, why is his dad putting him through this? You know, he's now at the NBA level.

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Of course, there's going to be criticism and you can't just cry your way out of this. Your son's going to be criticized if you do not score a single point in 15 minutes. It's open season. And here is what Stephen A. Smith said specifically that eventually sets LeBron James off. Take a listen.

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You never want to be the father at the little league game that runs into the middle of the field and starts screaming at the ump over a bad call because it's just little league, bro. It's not going to make or break anybody's life. And it's so embarrassing to your child. And I always think about that, you know, as my kids and I have so many of them are growing up and ironically, uh,

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Totally agree with that commentary. And by the way, I should clarify, he played in the first quarter, so he didn't start, but he played in the first quarter and the results are disastrous. OK, 15 minutes in a game and you don't score anything. And even if you say like somebody can have a bad night, that's fine. But you have to allow sports commentators to do their jobs.

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OK, you have to allow them to say things. Nobody says to Tom Brady when he was when he was playing as a QB, if he had a terrible game. Well, he's just you can't say anything about him. Because this is who his dad is. It's pointedly ridiculous. What are you talking about?

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Again, if you are trying to make the argument, LeBron, that your son is ready to play in the big leagues, that he has to be ready to deal with the criticism. OK, that's just how this works. But LeBron James said, no, no one talks about my son again. Apparently, this is an unwritten rule. He wants to cry and spike his ball and go home. That's what LeBron James wants to do.

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He's like, no one can say anything. I own this league. I've scored so many points. He's just crying like a little baby. This is particularly ridiculous. A big old man crying like a baby, trying to protect the feelings of his son. What is he learning in life from you? And so last night, LeBron James decided to thug Stephen A. Smith on the court side of a Lakers game.

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Stephen A. Smith was sitting courtside with Ari Emanuel. Yes, that Ari Emanuel from the Justin Bologna Baldoni. And Larry David. Everybody likes Larry David. And he found a moment and decided, like, I saw that clip and now I'm going to approach you here. Here is a clip of that. If you are listening to this on audio, you'll have to go watch it on YouTube or on Rumble.

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But I'm going to just show you the clip and I'll talk over it. You can see he's very angry and the social media has determined, you know, these expert lip readers. And it does look like he says exactly this, that he told him, keep my son out of this ish, bro. But he said the S word, keep my son out of this ish, bro. So like he pulled the Will Smith to Stephen A. Smith.

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Keep my wife's name out your mouth, bro. And that obviously is meant to be intimidating. And if you are saying, keep my son out of this ish, then your son should not be in this ish. That's it. That's how this works. Again, this is the free market. It's competition. If you think he can't handle the criticism, then he should not be on the court, okay?

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So this is a scenario where you have this angry dad because his son isn't good enough. And now you're blaming the umps, you're blaming the referees, you're blaming Stephen A. Smith for noticing that your son didn't do anything. And it's also kind of this archetype of a guilty dad.

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Like the reason why he is so angry, usually when people are expressing anger, it's because you're hitting upon a truth, right? Right. You're hitting upon truth. He heard Stephen A. Smith. He heard his words. He heard that he heard and recognized those words to be true. And he knows that his son is going to hear these words and recognize that it's true. He's forcing his son into this embarrassment.

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Just a couple of days ago, I signed my four-year-old up for T-ball. And I said to my husband, I signed him up for T-ball. You're going to take him. But look, you are not allowed to be that guy. You are not allowed to be that father at the T-ball game. And he seriously, my husband asked me, what is T-ball?

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And how foolish to say or to suggest that, well, he's not making the calls. He's not the one putting him in. No, he's just the one who essentially said, I won't even play. I won't even play unless I'm able to play alongside my son. The money means nothing to me. There was no offer the Lakers could give me that meant more to me than playing alongside my son. You were selfish, LeBron.

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That is the reality. You did something that was selfish because you wanted it. And now your son is dealing with the brunt of your decision making. Dave Portnoy, I thought summed this up quite brilliantly on X when he tweeted this. He tweeted, my heart aches for Bronny James. The poor kid doesn't belong in the NBA. He can't quit. He didn't ask for this.

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Yeah, of course. No, we like the heat. Our natural habitat is warm. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, my family's Caribbean, so the warmth feels great. So when I'm boiling hot, my team of guys, they always want the air on, so it's freezing cold in here. And I have to tell them, some of you are Nordic. It doesn't work.

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And so when you see people walking around and they've got security, I'm like, okay, maybe it makes you feel good, but at the end of the day, it's in God's hands. Yeah.

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That's what I mean.

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That won't be – It won't be that difficult. So I am extremely realistic about things like that. And I also think that there's safety in people even saying to watch your safety. Like if people are looking out for you and those sorts of things. I think we live in a different world now with social media and people that are way more invested in individuals.

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And the things that were able to happen like in the 60s couldn't really happen today without causing – a major firestorm. So I try not to think about that too much. I worry more about just the privacy as a parent to children. That's the one area, because I've seen some clips online of people getting wackadoodle.

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Whether you're talking left or right, some people can just get way too crazy and way too comfortable and will go up to someone when they're with their kids. I've seen a clip of someone

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They think I make breakfast, do laundry. You know what I mean? So if someone comes up and they start screaming, they're likely to join in. We've got her outnumbered. But that sort of a thing, traumatizing a child for the sake of your political beliefs.

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And I worry in those scenarios just because I don't trust myself not to fly off with a handle, you know, because there is a natural bear instinct that mothers have. And it's like, stay away from the cubs. Stay away from the cubs. So that's, I think, my only daily consideration.

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I have a redhead on my team, and I'm like, Skylar, you're from the Nordic countries. That's why you feel this way. I think that where you're from dictates a lot of your life. Or where your family would originally be from.

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Which one? Oh, the one that he recently signed that was just going.

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This was like about price transparency. Yes, I did see this. And it's amazing because I've been kind of one of these people that's been beating the drum on the health stuff before it was cool. Like I was called anti-vax and whatever, irresponsible, stupid. You're going to kill your kids because polio is going to come back. You know, all the good things people say on the Internet.

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And it's so great to see that something that. I've been saying publicly, I may have been saying this since I was 20, since I was vax injured, but something that I've been saying since I've had a platform is finally catching and people are starting to ask questions. And so I think that that's actually one of the places where the left and the right come together.

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Because I say to my conservatives actually caught on late to the health movement. It was actually these leftist moms who were like super granola and crunchy, you know.

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Yeah. And California moms. And they were the ones that were kind of they were behind that health campaign long before conservatives caught on to it. And so and there was no information for parents who didn't want to choose to vaccinate their children. And I found RFK Jr., who I had disagreements with,

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But he was the only person that was publishing information via his children's health defense website. And I printed out everything and learned everything kind of from the beginning. And so to see this now become like a national movement is so cool. It's just about people having rights. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you shouldn't be blindfolded when you go into a hospital.

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You're there for a couple hours and you get a bill. That's two thousand dollars. Like, yeah, that Tylenol we gave you, that was that was three hundred dollars. Like, well, I've never taken the effing Tylenol. Yeah. If I knew it would be three hundred dollars. Yeah.

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They're burglars and they're not even wearing fascinators. You know what I mean? That's what pisses me off the most. They're not even wearing fascinators and they're burglars. And it's ridiculous because they're usually stealing from the poorest people in America. And it's so awful. It's so awful what's been allowed to happen.

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But sometimes when I see these executive orders, which by the way, just random side thoughts, my brain works like this. Fat Joe is not fat anymore. He hasn't been fat for a very long time.

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Yeah, really? Crazy. He's in good shape now.

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Medium Joe. Yeah. Medium Joe. But he's absolutely right. And it's like I said, the people that suffer the most and it seems like that is kind of the economic model of America is steal from the poor to further enrich the rich. And there's no greater example of that than the health care system. And it's ridiculous when people say this is an example of capitalism. It's not.

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It's the exact opposite of capitalism. There cannot be capitalism in free markets where you don't know how much something costs. It would be wild. And I try to give people this understanding because you've grown up in the system. So you think it's normal. It's the craziest thing you've ever seen. Like, imagine you come into a store and you're in there. You're like, how much does a shirt cost? Um,

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Can't tell you right now. Can't tell you right now. Like, you know, just pick up the shirt, see what you want, you know, take whatever you want, and then we'll bill you. And they just make up the prices after you're gone. And they're like, actually, like that one T-shirt was $20,000. And you're going, if I had known it was $20,000, I wouldn't have gotten the T-shirt.

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You have to be able to actually price shop and say this store is now going to go out of business because it's too expensive. And the greatest example of that is that you really know it's a drug cartel in operation. It's the ambitions of... all of the people that they do documentary series on, or not documentary series, like create all these Netflix series about the big drug dealers.

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What's the name of the cartel family?

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No, in Mexico. Oh, Sackler? But yes, to the Sacklers, but essentially, El Chapo, yeah. When you think about El Chapo and who's the guy in Colombia as well.

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Did you? El Chapo's wife?

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Yeah, it wasn't.

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Oh, so you're probably going to get killed. Sad. I don't know. Yeah, I really like your stuff. That's awesome.

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It's what they wanted. They wanted a marriage with the government so that they would be able to push drugs. That's exactly what America is. And we do these series like we're like so highfalutin, like the we would never engage. This is what we do. It is a drug trade that is happening in plain sight. And, you know, you've got politicians who accept it because we have more big pharma lobbyists in D.C.

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than we have congressmen. That's wild.

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And that's what happened with LASIK surgery. So what's interesting is that when insurance companies kicked out, LASIK surgery used to be something that insurance companies covered. And then they decided that it was cosmetic, so they were no longer going to cover it. When insurance companies were covering it, it was about $10,000, $10,000 to $15,000 per an eye.

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I absolutely love the heat. So I cannot stay in the winter. I can't stay in the cold weather, the gray weather. Even there's a difference in this, I think, actually gets scientific. I didn't need the science of it, but it does get scientific. But if you're from those countries, like if I'm in the UK because my husband's English, just the gray weather. I can't live like this.

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Then when they said we're not going to cover it, suddenly the doctors had to compete. And now you can get LASIK eye surgery for $3,500 for both of your eyes. Wow.

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Yeah, it's a bunch of Eeyores over there. Where is the sun? And my husband is fine. He can be like productive, like super productive if it's like –

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get rid of these insurance companies so that we can just pay for what stuff costs. Like I'm happy to go into CVS and buy the $15 Tylenol rather than to pay because the insurance companies are gauging prices and suddenly it's $300 for a piece of Tylenol.

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Well, it's good that it's become like the mainstream conversation because most people didn't understand it. Like I said, when you grow up in a system – Yeah, you don't know. And the congressman will then do a really good job of making you fearful.

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Like, oh, if this happens, if we get rid of Medicaid, if we get rid of Obamacare, whatever it is, then you guys are not going to be able to – it's actually the exact opposite. You get rid of these things and you'll be able to afford it because you're getting rid of all these people that are just taking money from you and stealing from you.

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Well, what we need term limits. This is the problem. So if you have no incentive, if you are going into government and you know that you can stay in government forever, then you have to think of government as your employer and you want the company that you work for in the same way that you have a company, I have a company to be, to grow.

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Obviously, your job here when you're doing this podcast, you're not like, well, what can I do to make the podcast smaller? And so they are going there. And if they had term limits, they would be like, well, in four years, if we say four or six years, whatever it is, I got to go back and be a regular American. So I have no incentive to help grow government.

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I have every incentive to help grow individuals and grow families and make sure that prices are low. They're going in with the exact wrong mentality. Then they get in there and it's like, you can actually be here in time. How old is Nancy Pelosi? She's like the Crypt Keeper. Right. Think about how old our government is. And they've been there forever. Biden's been in government forever.

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So their incentive becomes this is my company and I'm going to help grow it. And then the lobbyists come to them and they want to stay in office forever. They want to go to Chuck Schumer.

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Yes, and so that would change overnight. Their incentives to recognize that they're going to spend the majority of their life outside of government would make them go in there and want to make things better for us, and that's the problem. So I'm a big supporter of term limits.

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The lobbying shouldn't be allowed in my viewpoint. It shouldn't be allowed at all. Period. It should be just completely outlawed.

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because they don't care what we think. And that's why Trump referred to it as a swamp, right? They don't actually care what we think. Once you get them into office, their job is to keep themselves into office, keep themselves empowered forever. And they're just in the business of trying to explain in really dumb terms to the American people, like I said, fear-mongering.

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Well, the reason I had to sign this, and it's all buried. It's like 3,000. That's why I love Thomas Massey, by the way, because Thomas Massey will say, we just need these bills that we're signing or one line. Instead, it's like if they even ever agree to do anything for us, it's because they've already done 37 million things for themselves in the first 37,000 pages of the document.

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And on the last page, it's something for the American people. It's crazy. Why do bills need to be 300 pages long?

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They're writing the bills. They're getting the bills passed, and we have a bunch of traitors in Congress. I mean that is just the reality of the circumstances, and anybody telling you that it's just traitors on the left or traitors on the right is lying to you. We have traitors on both sides. It's very obvious we have traitors on both sides.

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They do. Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Thomas, so few. So few because that's what money is. People worship money. They don't worship values. We have this issue in the media. We have this issue in government. We have this issue in business. There is just something about money that just turns everyone into a prostitute. And it's sad. I mean I've seen it up close. I've been –

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Paddington bear is proper.

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You know, there's this expression, never meet your idols. And I felt that the closer that I got to politics, the more I realized how much I hate politics. I've always hated politics, but you hate it extra once you start to meet people and you realize that everyone's in it just to enrich themselves.

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And so few people will be able to walk away from riches, so to speak, because they actually want to do something good. And those people tend to have something that's so much better than riches, which is like their lives are in order. They have families. They're actually happy. They don't want more, you know? So...

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But they are. They're always like not well dressed. We're not we don't we don't really wear a lot of clothes in America in general. And especially as you come down to the south, it just gets because then there's England and there's New England. So I'm from Connecticut. So there's a lot of similarity. And then the more that you drift south, you're kind of in a different country.

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Look, there's going to be great stuff and there's going to be bad stuff. There's no question in my mind, you know, that Trump is less beholden to the state. And that was why the state fought so hard to keep him out. And I always pay attention to those people because I have a almost reverse relationship with the media.

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When someone's being super attacked and the entire mainstream media hates them, I usually assume that there's some modicum of truth there. There's something that they're fighting for that makes them hate them so much. And that's like how I came across Thomas Massey and I would say with Trump, he is definitely a person that does not love war.

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And so the military industrial complex, and he's definitely a person who looks at things like a businessman, which is just why would you want to have all of this money going out of your company, so to speak, if you treat your country like a company. And it makes entirely no sense. You don't even know where it's going, going to obscure causes. Like why are we funding like Pakistani LGBT rights?

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Like weird when you take a look at it. And so it's cool to see him instantly attack that and that they're automatically, I mean, like when they went through, you said, it's just amazing to see that. So I think in terms of the economy, we are going to instantly kind of bounce back. And people are, you can already feel it now. People aren't holding their money as much.

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I think there was, to me, I felt, and I don't know if I'm biased because I'm conservative, but there was a kind of a darkness and a fear when Biden was president. And it wasn't because Biden was president. It was because we knew Biden wasn't president. It's not quite strange. That's like the scariest part. It wasn't because he was president. It was because he wasn't president.

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So it's like, who was running the country?

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It's embarrassing, yeah, but the family let it do it. It's fucking embarrassing.

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To me, that's like... I totally disagree with him on it. And it's like, it's hard to reconcile it in many ways. It's hard to reconcile because I see so much hypocrisy in terms of when we say America first, for whatever reason, we have this magic carve out. And you cannot pretend that that's not because AIPAC spends $100 million in our election.

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And this gets back to what we were talking about, whether it's Big Pharma, whether it's Israel, everyone's for sale in D.C. And so I have been very disappointed with Trump on his perspectives about Gaza.

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I have been disappointed, by the way, he's the last person I'm disappointed with because I've been disappointed, as we saw all last year with the conservatives, people that say they're Christians who are condoning this on the basis of what? Like you're saying, oh, well, they're Muslims, so who cares? Right.

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And that gets into our programming, which I've spoken about in my podcast of this 9-11 programming where we just don't see Muslims as like human life. And to, you know, to me, to speak about Gaza and talking about casinos and hotels and these people just lost their entire families. It's so far removed from humanity. Yeah. I think it's wrong.

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And I'm tired of America being used as Israel's piggyback. For whatever reason, everyone can critique every other country for taking money from us. And then there's just everyone's blind when it comes to Israel. And obviously, I paid a very heavy price for saying that last year. But I don't care because I am truly someone whose values have never been up for sale. I don't care.

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I will burn everything to the ground and rebuild it. I have to be able to sleep at night. And To see those Palestinian children and the images are seared into my brain, the screaming, the crying, the bleeding, the stuff that we saw on X for the first time, largely thanks to Elon freeing the bird and really realizing how much we had been lied to about what was happening in that region.

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I just it was very easy for me to say, take whatever you have to take from me. I just I have to be on the human side of things.

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bodies of like who could even go to that and what's so crazy is the Like the mainstream media thinking that we're so stupid That they're going to condition us to believe that to not support the ethnic cleansing they're then gonna mine our like preconditioned beliefs about the Holocaust and And be like, oh, well, you know, a Jewish person died.

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So if you don't agree with what we're doing over here, then you're a person that wants more Jewish people to die. It's like this is an evil way to try to socially engineer what you want, because actually it's precisely because of what I learned.

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growing up about holocausts and ethnic cleansings that i do not support what the state of israel is doing and you're trying to convince me that it means that if anybody's been wronged in the past they can't wrong people in the future you're also wrongly conflating like a jewish american why you have nothing to do with this one on israel this is a foreign country you know no no more than if right now we were standing up to a genocide that was happening in ghana yeah and then what i'm going to be like oh well if you don't support what you know the the

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Yeah.

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the president of Ghana wants to do, then you want American slavery back. I'm like, it's like, what? What are you talking about? Just because I'm black and maybe my family is from Ghana, why on earth would I not be able to critique a foreign country for something that they're doing that is so objectively wrong? And so it's disappointed me as someone who just...

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I would absolutely love it.

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Had so much respect and belief in the conservative movement and believing that it was a principled movement and Christians as well. I've been very disappointed in Christians who are using trying to use this like biblical argument for just, well, no matter what, you know, are people doing that? Yeah, it's pretty sick, man. It is very sick.

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They're basically saying that the Bible will bless those who bless Israel. And I'm like, okay, so we have a country who first and foremost doesn't have to give us back our pedophiles. Literally, they have this weird rule that you can go if you're Jewish and hide as a pedophile. And actually an amazing Jewish organization did the work there. You could pull it up. I think it was on CBS.

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E566 Candace Owens

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I've been pregnant for four years, actually. So I think now people are kind of saying to me still or again when they see me. Are you still pregnant or are you pregnant again? So I'm not sure which one, but this is my fourth kid. So and I've had a child every year. It's kind of crazy. This is like a lifestyle now for me. Pregnancy is a lifestyle. Yeah.

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I forgot the name of the Jewish organization, but they followed, went to Israel and was like, why are we harboring pedophiles?

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They did amazing. No, they were not the pedophiles. They did the investigation to show how people are using how like people who have molested children in America, if they're Jewish, they can then make their trip to Israel and be protected by the government. And Israel doesn't have to bring like they literally don't have to. Yeah. CBS News, that second one.

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You will not find a single person who says that that's wrong.

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No, they can then become Israeli citizens. They're American, right? So if they just hop, if they're being like on a trial, you get to Israel, they'll protect you. And so they went and went to where all these, you know, pedophiles are and spoke a lot about, you know, this this or I can't remember the name of the organization, but they did amazing work. They are Jewish community watch.

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E566 Candace Owens

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That's what it is. And so that's what I mean, where it's like there's also this wrong conflation that annoys me as well, because you have Jewish organizations who will objectively say this is wrong. They recognize they are Americans. They don't support pedophiles. And yet the mainstream media is trying to conflate them and make them think that they have to defend the actions of this state. Right.

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And yeah, if you even talk about this, let's say it's anti-Semitic, talk about this. What are you talking about? You're taking billions. That's the difference here. This is a country that is taking billions and billions and billions. It's an American welfare state, you know, and CBS jumped on it.

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CBS News investigation has found that many accused American pedophiles flee to Israel and bring them to and bringing them justice can be difficult.

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No, no. So this is a story about how they are doing this. The main story is like that they were investigating is that there's so many people that did this. Why do they allow it? Why? Because they have special consideration and they are not allowed. They don't have to give us back our pedophiles. I don't know. I don't I never understand this random Israeli loopholes. And it's it's ridiculous.

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And the fact that they can just call people anti-Semitic, like a sweeping allegation. How dare you notice that this is happening over here? You're you anti-Semite. And it's like you we have every right to critique this nation because you take money from us, especially. Right. That means when we go to work and taxes are being taken away, we're paying to support this.

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Then we're being gaslit by the media who's telling us that critiquing them in any way is an act of hatred for Jews, which is just such a nonsense.

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Blackmail. I think blackmail. And I think this is the reason why we don't get to open the Epstein files. You don't get to open the JFK files. And I think it's a form of gaslighting us to pretend that our special friend and ally isn't just a, I mean, and by the way, parking aside America, other countries too, you investigate anything.

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I mean, I'm investigating Brigitte Macron and Israeli blackmail comes up in Morocco. Israeli blackmail comes up in. So to pretend that we don't know that Israel is involved in blackmail operations is foolish.

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And I think that they have gotten it down to a science. And there's no question in my mind that sexual blackmail is what Jeffrey Epstein was involved in. And I don't know if that means these people don't know when they go to these parties that the girls are underage. And then it's like, haha, we've got you on tape, whatever it is. And we can even take a look at the Diddy case.

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These powerful blackmail operations are definitely operating.

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You get some really weird dreams when you're pregnant and also some very precise dreams that end up coming true.

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It's true blackmail. I mean, if you have hidden cameras and you're capturing people doing drugs and sleeping with underage people. So I think it's these are these are blackmail operations. I think they've been going on for decades in America. I think it was Jeffrey Sachs who spoke really well about that, the history of that on Tucker Carlson's show. And he's Jewish.

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And that's what I hate about it. It's trying to make Jewish Americans think that they have to defend the country is so ridiculous. I am not required to if my family goes back to Uganda, I'm not required to defend Uganda as a state. I'm sorry. I'm an American. And I think what you're doing is wrong. If it doesn't doesn't really matter, you know.

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And you're right to say that it's sort of this circumstance where everybody knows something is going on and they think they're just going to keep gaslighting us. It's so weird. Like they're just going to go, nothing's going on. Nothing. There's just every day. Everybody woke up one day and decided to be Hitler.

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Like that's what the media is basically accusing us of for like noticing a lot of dead people, like a lot of dead women and children. And that's failing. And by the way, I think that is the reason I don't, I don't regret them doing that because it's the reason why podcasts like the mainstream media, you know, this like effort to just keep smearing, libeling people for noticing basic human things.

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And I don't regret it because I think it's the reason that trust with them has been fractured. I'm grateful that people no longer believe them. I'm grateful that now people are going to independent podcasts. And when we go on Spotify, you see like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens.

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totally weird i mean i woke up and had such a crystal clear dream my last pregnancy my ep was trying to get pregnant and ep means executive producer yeah okay my former executive producer and i had a crystal like her son visited me like and it was before she knew she was pregnant and i said to her you're having a little boy like you're pregnant and she was like i'm not pregnant and then she went back somebody shot an episode of the ring in your womb maybe yeah

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That means that for holding on to just like basic human values and being willing to talk about issues in a way and not pretend that your audiences are stupid and not seeing what you're... We've earned their trust, you know? And I don't want to fumble that ball.

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Like I want to always say, even if I don't know something, and sometimes I don't, I can't speak on it, that I don't know everything, but I'm willing to find out before I speak on it or at least have the conversation and not treat you like you're an idiot and I'm like the authority.

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Well, he had passports. Yeah. So – and then it's also his ties to Ghislaine Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell. The whole Mossad attended his funeral. He died in very weird circumstances. I don't think – Even people who are pro-Zionist would deny that he was obviously Israeli-American intelligence. And he had weird passports.

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I mean, he had like a Saudi Arabian passport, an Israeli passport, an American passport.

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And yeah, and under different names, by the way, he had working passports of these different countries with different names. You can't just get that. You can't just get these passports without being connected to the intelligence services. And it was never made clear why he was so rich. So who was giving him all that money?

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Was this like black ops, our tax dollars going to give him this illusion of wealth and power so that he would party with all these billionaires and Yes, you're right. Blackmail operations happen all across the world. I think America, in terms of just how America has been seized, that's the only explanation for how Israel is able to expand with such a small population.

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And like, you know, somebody has to be fighting their wars. Somebody has to be funding them. We're funding them. So I think we've just become like the piggy bank to them.

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Which is so stupid. I hate when people just say stuff. Like one of my things that I always – It's a strong theory though. But it's not. It's just people just say things that are said. All the time. Why the hell do we have any business in the Middle East at all? Like, why are you just trying to tell me that, like, I need an ally? I actually don't. I don't.

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Like, why are we involved constantly in Middle East drama? Again, this is one of the things that we've just been programmed since childhood to think that, like, we need to be. Why are we in Afghanistan? OK, let's say they actually let's say the Taliban is terribly corrupt and they're making women where that's I would like to mind my business. You know what I mean? And right.

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So there's this idea of international expansionism, international liberalism. Everybody must think like us, live like us. Really? Like, I'm good if they don't actually. I'm cool if like Russia wants to decide how Russia lives. And if Pakistan wants to decide how Pakistan lives. What the fuck?

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why are we so nosy I actually just you know we're like next door neighbors never once have I thought about how you live I've never like when I got here I was like no I've never thought well I really think that the morals in my house are so good that I just need to go next door and force Theo Vaughn to live like I live and this is what time I wake up I wake up at 530 he should get up at 530 and he should organize you know the clothes like I just don't I kind of like to mind my business like a little bit if that's possible if America could employ that foreign policy for a bit it'd be great

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And for whose benefit, who has benefited from that? All of the stuff we did in the Middle East, who's benefited from that? The answer is Israel. Okay. We have not, America has not benefited from any of these wars. Why did we just have all of these daughters and sons dying in the Middle East? Why? Is America a safer country? Our borders are wide open.

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Are we a cleaner country than before we got into these wars? Do you remember the glory days? Were you alive in the 90s? Things were so chill in the 90s. I feel like I always go back to that. I'm like, I swear I'm in the 90s. Everybody was chill. We're happy. We're wearing overalls. We were saving up money for Disney. In like those big Poland spring bottles. Like at least we were in my house.

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And then I just feel like September 11th happened. And we just could not stop being involved in stuff. And we were told that it was because it was going to make us safer. And it didn't make us safer. All I know, I don't feel safer when I have to just like strip dance at every airport. We used to not have to do that as an American. You just get on the plane.

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And they never found anybody with a shoe, bomb. It was just this illusion of Middle Eastern terrorism that made us give up all of our rights. Things used to be cleaner. The streets used to be cleaner. There wasn't America before we decided to get involved in everybody's business.

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Well, I'm saying that – I'm talking now about our Middle Eastern policy.

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Right. It's the very same people that the mainstream media calls racist, sexist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic. And then the price you get to pay for that is that you get to sign up and fight the wars so that those little elitists can write the articles about you. Like I literally said no one should sign up like when we under the Biden regime.

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I'm like, I would never send my kids to fight in a war for a foreign nation when this is a condition of ours. The whole idea of signing up for the military is supposed to be defending the homeland. OK, now we're defending Ukraine's borders. And again, using the same weird argument.

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But it's a laundromat.

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it's a laundromat look into it historically Zelensky is a puppet you know that's being and the use of that was we were running money through Ukraine they can't account for the billions of dollars that we sent to Ukraine it's getting it's a laundromat and it's just being sent back to the same elites while the American people suffer now that part I totally agree I mean we can't we can't account for I mean no but it's a laundromat this is money laundering and this is what I mean when I say it feels like that for sure like you just don't really know what's going on and they shame you we can't trust our but who shames you

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Yeah.

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the mainstream media for not supporting it, you know, and that they shame you. They call you the isolationist. You don't want to get involved in Ukraine. You're an isolationist. I'm like, dope, love it. Can I get it on a t-shirt? Isolationist. You're, you don't, you don't want Big Pharma to have more power. You're an anti, cool, anti, whatever you need to call me, put it on a t-shirt.

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And that's what I hope that people get from me when they watch my podcast. And people know that, This is just high school name-calling, okay? A bunch of dweebs are down in D.C., people that you would have probably never even freaking hung out with, okay? And they're telling you how you're going to live and how you're going to work for them, stuff that they would never have the courage to do.

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You love the war so much, neocons, the conservative side. Put your kids in the war. You love it so much. You love Israel. Go fight for Israel, dude. There's no rules here. Pick up and go, right? The pedophiles can go. I'm sure you can go. And it's not that.

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That's a perfect solution that I would get behind. All of them, every single one of them. And so, yeah, that'd be great. Put them all in helmets. And I'm just so sick of people who live in- No helmets. No helmets, no helmets. I'm going to say that. I love that. And so I'm just so sick of people. And then they look down and who are the first to sign up? Oh, the good old boys.

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people down here in Tennessee, Alabama, right? And they hate you. They hate you the most, right? They hate a white American straight male is like the number one person that they want to just like annihilate, like every sense of America.

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But yeah, but that, that should, they should be angry about that. So you, you realize this is it's those people that are writing the articles that hate you, who will be the first one to tell you to sign up to go fight the wars that enriches them. It's a nonsense. Like, who cares? Call someone a redneck. Can I get it on a t-shirt? Like, who cares? Stop this cycle of abuse.

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And that's always what they try to do is they try to, well, you're ignorant. I sip my, was it chai latte in New York City. I've never, I know nothing. These people who lecture you about the environment and lecture you about, you know, we're so educated. We write these articles about like green new, whatever it is, have never been in the environment, man. Like they're in like a concrete jungle.

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They would die. They would literally die if electricity went out for longer than a week. OK, they don't know how to they make fun of people who hunt, who want to survive. And then when there's something that they want to accomplish overseas, they want you to go die. And so I just want Americans to wake up to that. to wake up to that and to realize it's left and right.

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And when we are just screaming at each other and you don't recognize that there is this power apparatus that sits in the middle and that they will always use you and use your emotion and use words like racism and sexism and antisemitism, that should be the first red flag.

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You know, if I think about dreams too hard, it freaks me out. Like deja vu. It just scares me. Genuinely, I'm going, what's real, what's not? Is this inception? Because you are so certain in a moment of deja vu that you've been there, you've seen that person, you've met that person, and yet you haven't in your waking world.

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When you hear someone not making an argument, but calling someone a name, what you have behind that is a fleet of nerds that are trying to socially engineer you to go do something for them. And they would never do it for you.

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If that were the case, so the reason why this is different is because Israel is actually the exception. They are the only country that's allowed to lobby Americans. Like everyone else has to register as a foreign agent under FARA. Like with AIPAC or whatever? Yeah, so AIPAC, the backstory, by the way, before JFK got shot, he was fighting AIPAC. They were previously called, I'm blanking on this.

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So us not having, just humans not having an answer to deja vu is one of those lingering things that in the back of my mind, if I think too much about it, I just get freaked out.

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It was, you can look it up. And he was literally saying, you have to register under the Foreign Act. Is that true? Let's look it up. 1,000% sure, and you should look it up. We should fact check that live. He was fighting with what is today known as APAC. Ah, as was renamed AZCPA. I don't know what that stood for.

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Yeah, so JFK told them that they had to register under FARA. And so American Zionist Council, that's exactly what it was called.

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In 1962, President—look at the last paragraph.

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Yeah. So APAC, for lack of a better term, they were called AZC back then, but continued to send out newsletters and hold events with with a nonprofit tax exemption. And then what happened was he was shot. So he literally like they were writing him letters. You can find this is all like this is available information. And he was like, you need to register, you need to register, you need to register.

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And then we told you to register. Why are you not registering? This makes no sense. And then he APAC got lucky because he got shot and killed. But also you could like... So they are the only... The reason why I'm bringing this up is not to further conspiracy theories. They're the only country? They're the only country that's allowed to lobby Americans that are not registered under the FARA Act.

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And so when you see these people... Under the what act? FARA. So that's like if you're a foreign agent, you have to basically register, your communications are monitored, all of this stuff. But for whatever reason, Israel is an exception to this. And the reason is because JFK got shot because otherwise they would have been under this. So that is the reason that they're allowed to do this.

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And so, you know, when this and then, of course, we're not allowed to read the files. But leading up to his death, he was having arguments with the prime minister, Ben Gurion. That's a fact. Another fact. He was having heated arguments with Ben Gurion. And then the problem. Yeah, look it up. JFK.

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So it drives me insane to see these absolute frauds. Like when they go, when they go, oh, Russia spent a million, like, or like whatever they said. I remember they came out for like Lauren Chen and they're like, there are this idea that Russia spent money and they'll say something like $26,000. So they spent $3 million, like, you know, and influenced the election.

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And all of these people will be taking money from AIPAC. They're like, oh, well, AIPAC got lucky. Well, JFK got shot. Yeah.

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Yeah, and were you, like, you had maybe sometimes, like, an enemy or a friend, or you just know someone.

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Right. But when you hear these people in your government saying this, you should know how fraudulent they are because they all are taking money from Israel. And so it's like, yes, is Israel doing it legally because a president got shot? Sure. But it's wrong. A country should not be able to lobby to get what they want and control our congressmen. And you get to see them flex that muscle like –

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TikTok and things of nature when they are now interfering with our speech and they'll get laws passed really quickly. It allows literally a foreign country to make decisions in our nation. Lobbying should just not be allowed full stop. So instead they go, oh, we are focusing on it because they're Jewish. No, you're just the only country that's allowed to do it. I would feel the same way of China.

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If there was a Chinese lobby. Is China allowed to do it? No, there's no other country that's allowed to do this but Israel. Only AIPAC. There's no other country that is – that everyone else has to register under the FARA Act and that changes things significantly. AIPAC is the only American Israel PAC, whatever it is, that is allowed to spend $100 million in our elections and not be called names.

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Like if – can you imagine if Russia spent $100 million in our elections? If there was like a Russia PAC or a Chinese PAC and they were just allowed to spend that kind of money to lobby and pay our politicians to say things and to believe in things. And that should make people angry like that should make people angry and irrespective. Like I said, it could be any country unless.

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Let them all do it.

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Right. Well, they don't want to. That's a weird thing I don't understand. Because then you wouldn't sign up for wars. You would start to question things in a different way. And so it becomes important for the government to keep Americans ignorant of how Congress works, what's going on, so that they believe they're Congressmen when they go on a rant and say –

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Israel's our friend and ally and they don't know how to just very easily look up and see whether this guy's taking money or when someone says this vaccine is going to save your life and they don't know you know what's happened with the CDC or they don't people don't even have basic civics understanding but that's by design if and this is something that my former colleague Matt Walsh said and he's so right go back and read the letters that were written during the civil war from like

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poor kid from Tennessee, Alabama, Louisiana, writing to his mom with no formal education. And it sounds like poetry. They were so educated. 17-year-olds, I'm talking 17, eight-year-olds, like talking about how they miss their mothers. And you read these old letters and you're like, Americans were so educated.

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there's been an intentional effort to make Americans dumber and dumber and dumber about their own processes, because then it allows for the gaslighting media to come in and sort of make, I mean, you have people now, you look at the, we are factually speaking, getting dumber and dumber every decade.

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know you from another life yeah what was our beef like dude yeah what hat tell me what you're fucking doing here tell me who you're working for yeah um did you you so you have three children that are out of your body right now is that what you're saying out of my body yeah three three we did three under three my eldest just turned four and so yeah we're on another we are another planet right now in my house like the toddlers are running things they're running things they are i'm scared of them yeah and i feel comfortable saying that here i wouldn't tell them that i act tough

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And they fashioned this with the Department of Education, which is now they're going after that too, which is great. Trump is saying like, no more, but you federalized education. And there was a reason for that, because now they can keep you focused on learning about emotional things. Well, we want you to learn about race. We want you to learn about sex.

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It's very important that we learn about trans rights. And so this is where I think the left and the right get – we're fighting over stuff that's so irrelevant, right?

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And also, by the way, we had already solved that. Like everywhere in the world, it just used to just say bathroom. And we knew that that meant anybody could use it. Do you remember this? And now it's like this issue where they're now writing signs that are like, any person can go here. And I'm like, have you never been on a plane? Yeah, I know. Everybody just goes in the same bathroom.

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That's a good point, huh? That's how we used to be.

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Well, I don't mean the big ones. I just mean like when they had the independent, like the independent stalls, which is just like a family bathroom. You just go in like one person at a time.

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I'll go in there.

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I'm going to report you.

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I'm just into the truth. And as soon as you start following the truth, they call you a conspiracy theorist. But like I said, I'm comfortable with it. I literally sell stuff that says conspiracy theorist. My whole mission is to make people realize dweebs are calling you names and you're, I don't know, like you just got to stand up to them.

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You called me a conspiracy theorist for talking about vaccines for years, and then COVID happened, and suddenly people are all looking at my old series and going, wow, well, if they could lie about COVID, did they lie about other stuff? Yeah, buddy. You're looking at a drug cartel. Yeah, they're going to lie to you. They know some things, you know?

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Of course.

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Yeah, because he runs shit.

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He's like the ultimate grand gangster. He's like, even when they catch him doing the crimes and we created this court for exactly what it did, they said, you can't do this. Then they say, well, just cancel the courts. You imagine being like that much of a worldwide gangster? It's crazy.

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Right, they're actually morally pretentious. They're pretending it's like, oh, we've just gotten, we're so dignified, we would never do this. Look, if it's the rules of the jungle, it's the rules of the jungle, let us know. Right, that's my biggest thing. It's this illusion of we're better, we would never, oh, because of World War II. You're doing all of it, right?

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We don't let them know we're outnumbered, you know, because they're just kind of learning to count. But we are fully outnumbered.

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You're violating every single one of these codes that you put into place. And if you're going to do it because I'm big and you're small, then say that. So like the small guys know what's up. It's the rules of the jungle.

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What you're talking about, by the way, there's a term for it. It's called real politicking.

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Yeah. That's all I want. I just want to know. It's like, I'd rather know that we're working with cartels in South America because we are, right? Yeah. And like, that's cool, CIA, like whatever. But just like, please stop the pretentious. Oh, you're fake. Oof. That's the American government. It's the scoffing. We would never. Yes, you would. Yes, you have. And yes, you are.

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And people that know real politicking.

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Right. And so if they're like, yeah, here's the thing, cartels are getting big in the South. And so, yeah, morally we shouldn't work with the cartels, but also if we let the cartels keep growing and El Chapo keep growing, then you know what? Then Mexico could become stronger than us. So we're going to do deals with the cartel. Like that's real politic, right?

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Before they start making sense and having a little toddler meeting. Is it like, hey, listen up. There's more of us than there are of them. I watched way too much Rugrats growing up.

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Like not real, you know, because the CIA purchased them. Right. And that's a fact. Again, you could pull this up so that we can conspiracy theory. What is Operation Mockingbird? The CIA after JFK was shot, which is just the fact. Look, please look it up because I'm going to sound crazy if you don't look up Operation Mockingbird. But everything happens after JFK gets shot.

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This is on Wikipedia, so we're not on Reddit feeds here. You know what I mean? Everything I'm showing you is on Wikipedia, so it means they've admitted it.

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1963, they're at the bottom.

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No, the CIA just paid American journalists to say what they wanted to, Operation Mockingbird, right? So that you and I are taking money from the CIA, this would be the theory, and they're paying us. If we're journalists, you mean. Yeah, if we're journalists. And they're paying us to write the articles. And so then our job is to be like, gaslight the American people.

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So let's say the CIA was involved in shooting JFK, right? Right. OK, well, that kind of is what I believe as a conspiracy theorist. But I don't listen to me. I'm a conspiracy theorist. CIA was involved. And so the next thing you have to do, the population's freaking out. What's going on? What's going on?

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OK, they start putting journalists on payroll and they're supposed to gaslight you and be like, this is a closed case. The matter has been closed. JFK tripped and fell. And that's how he died. And anybody saying anything else is a conspiracy theorist. Also, a fun fact, the term conspiracy theorist was created by the CIA. It's literally a gaslighting. It's a word that's used to gaslight you.

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And so I've fallen in love with going back and learning real history and recognizing that these public school classrooms, which I grew up in, were meant to program me. and to socially engineer me.

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And so to find like historians, if you want to know why people react the way that they do when Tucker has on like a Daryl Cooper or somebody that's deep in, can tell you more about World War II and more about World War I, whatever it is, is because they are the mockingbirds, right? They are freaking out because this is now failing.

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There has never been any indication that Operation Mockingbird has ended. In fact, it is known that Barack Obama reinstituted Project Mockingbird. Right. And so you have to know these things. You have to, it's, you can look at a project mockingbird Obama.

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No, I'm not. They would never let me be an editor. I'm like, I'm, I want anti-Semitic of the year. There's no way they're letting me do anything ever on like anything government stuff. You know, they've, they've put me on the ADL list. They've tried to smear and libel me into like a ridiculous way to make it. I mean, they say I'm literally Adolf Hitler. I'm Adolf Hitler.

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I'm the new, I'm the new, I'm the second coming I've read somewhere.

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I feel like that's cool, right? Like it's good for DEI or whatever.

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I'm so nice. I'm way too pregnant. This is crazy.

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Tommy had a screwdriver at all times. Good point. He was a moral person, but he had a screwdriver at all times in his, yeah, there's two of them.

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I haven't – not even one Jewish friendship has ended because it's very weird. Like the purpose of these advocacy groups – And Jewish agents set this up today too, I want to know. Yeah, but that's the point. Once you know people – They're not going to fall. I grew up in a very Jewish town. I grew up just outside of New York City. And all my best friends growing up were Jewish.

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It just happened to be the way that it was. And so you're not going to convince them, these people, that I was at their Rosh Hashanah dinner. I know Jewish prayers. And the Jewish families that I worked for in New York, overnight that candidates turned into Adolf Hitler. That actually is being sold.

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Which is like, they're not going to buy that. You know what I mean? So it's stupid. But the other thing is that they haven't yet worked through, I think, this new generation of smear tactics, like the people that are employing it now, people like Barry Weiss.

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They haven't quite figured out that once people have a platform that's big, like if people are watching your show every single day and I say, actually, Theo Vaughn is an avowed racist, like he is the second coming of whoever, you know, he just wants slavery back. You're not just condemning Theo Vaughn. you're condemning the millions of people that listen to him.

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And they get mad because they know you're basically... They're going to be like, I listen to his show every day. What are you talking about? He says raisins are... You like raisins because they're grapes that have been through shit. That's a Theo Vaughn quote.

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But if I had advocacy groups and tons of money, I could just be like, write articles that say Theo Vaughn hates black people. Okay, we could do it. But at the end of the day, people that listen to you know better and they get angry. And all it does is it breaks them away from trusting the mainstream media more because they are listening to you every day. Absolutely.

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So I have the confidence in my followers. They know me. They know who I am. I don't hate anybody. I just hate liars. And they come in all different shapes and sizes and races and religions. You can find you a liar anywhere.

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Uh-huh.

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I learned my work ethic I got from two Jewish men. I worked in private equity for four and a half years. Oh, really? Yeah. In municipal bonds? Not in municipal bonds, private equity. I just got into some.

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Yeah, so they pretty much, like, you can't live in New York City and hate Jews. They're literally everywhere. But that's kind of been one of the worst things about the politicizing of this is exactly what you're talking about. My perception of Jewish people is having been someone who grew up in New York, but they work hard, they grind, you know, they fight, they love.

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You can get into an argument with them. They don't take themselves seriously. You can say whatever and then be out to dinner. And to see that the...

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branding of that now like this like victim mentality I don't recognize this this like whiny victim mentality well now when when everything's become political it becomes like the DC version and this is why I also hated the BLM because black people are like very funny have a good sense of humor you can always just like make a joke and that's kind of like that that's what our culture is and then BLM turned black people into like victims like racism's everywhere and it's in the way that

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that person's braiding their hair it's the form of whatever they're learning in school weird terms cultural appropriation and i'm like it turns into wimps like this was our our cool thing was we were funny and we could take a joke and mock people for being you know white redneck chinese like that's the cool thing and when you remove that and then suddenly like it's like hysteria and you're like i'm a victim and everybody's in it's like you're not fun anymore you suck and i hate you because you suck not because of your race whether you're black jewish or or white you know

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like um repairing to do you know i think we're still repairing we just need more comedians i don't care about your feelings i just want to make fun of you please can we all just make fun of each other we go back to like that's what i say the 90s oh yeah that shit was great and chris rock was up on stage and he's just making fun of you for every issue you have and by the time you walk out of there you're all laughing at each other and you realize that your shit stinks and your dog does poop ma'am you know

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Yeah, and she's not the one to upset. So you just be very careful here before she Anthony Smiths you. Okay, yeah. Never mind.

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That's why people like you. I never figured it out. I never figured it out. You're exceptional at being average. Like average meaning like relatable.

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That is what you're exceptional at is people feel like they can listen to you and they can understand and they can think with you. And I think we've disrupted, and I'm putting myself in the same...

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blocks here like we've disrupted this model of lecturing the listeners that they had going on for years we are cnn we know we will tell you what you get luxury though no not on my show do you watch my podcast i've seen your podcast before no i'm just having fun

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Yeah, we went, just got back. I'm saying just got back, but that's how it feels like time is flying. But, uh, we spent all of December overseas. So we spent a lot of time in England because we just want to spend time with my husband's family. And then we popped over to Switzerland for a ski trip, which was awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm a psycho. I'm a woman, you know, that's the difference between you and us too. Like where I'm a woman. So like, it's gotta be organized. I gotta be like, like the kids, I gotta put their clothes out and the same thing for my podcast. I'm like, let me tell you what happened. Look at this timeline.

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I have been sued. I have indeed been sued. But have I been beat in a lawsuit? No.

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and do you um do you have to have a lawyer on staff no but i have a lawyer that is like he's basically my friend like he he's just he's become like a brother you know like we get all sorts of crazy letters we get much more threats to be sued in terms of like actual lawsuits i've only gone to court with uh two people you know one one than both so

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How many years do they tell people or how many years is it actually?

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That's how it goes. If you haven't watched the series, I mean, there's a reason it's going. I've watched two episodes of the series. It's crazy. This is not like, this wasn't nothing. And I want to be clear. I wasn't the one who, I happened upon this because I'm one of these rare birds because I'm nosy.

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That if I see something happening in another country, I will take the time to pick it up in the foreign language and then interpret it into English and to try to read and understand it. And most people just will be like, I don't care. It's happening in France. It's happening in Romania. It's happening wherever. I just make time. I get interested.

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And so Savannah, who's my manager, remembers the night at the UFC fight where I found the reporting on this. And actually, the way it popped up was like the Daily Mail actually did a piece on Brigitte Macron. It was just funny to me because they were like, Emmanuel Macron, you know, angrily denies the rumors. His wife's a man. And he was like all stressed out and was like, it's not true.

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It's not true. And I'm like, I was like, what the hell? France like that, like the president has to come out. and make a statement on this at all.

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But what was weird about the Daily Mail piece.

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Yeah, so what was weird about the Daily Mail piece is that they didn't debunk what the people were saying. And this should be such an easy thing to debunk. Like if you were like Candace Owens as a man and never grew up in Stanford, I'd be like yearbook, yearbook, yearbook, yearbook, yearbook. Here's me and my family. It's such an easy thing to debunk. Like why is this going on for years?

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So, and I had a lot of these thoughts, like when we were walking through Zerma and I love Switzerland, it's a beautiful country. But, you know, you get the tour and you're way up in the mountains and they figured out how to just live in the mountains.

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And so that's what caught my attention, looked into it. And 1,000%, she was born a man, lived as a man for 30 years, you know, and then transitioned at some time in the 80s. But are you worried about getting in trouble for slander by saying that? I have welcomed the lawsuit. I mean, Emmanuel Macron sent me a threat before we published and we went back to him.

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it was his lawyers and so yeah he sent the threat and the way that it works in Tennessee you know first and foremost we have the good old boys here so I said to him like this is not the state to come and try your little hootsie floopsie French Parisian whatever it is like you know if you're messing around with kids this is not the place for you secondly like if who was messing around with kids the wife then yeah that's what we're calling so Brigitte you're saying is a male biological was a male or is a male

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well, you can't really change those things in my world, but lives as a woman, clearly.

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And so anyways, the story really is just like, you know, lived as a dude, transitioned, met Emmanuel when he was just 14 years old.

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living as a woman early days like not doesn't look i didn't hadn't had all like the feminization surgery i can even tell you her doctor's name oh you're saying so she was just kind of fresh out the um growing the hair out like yeah starting to like live as a woman yeah it's just like fresh out the lord and taylor kind of and he that was his drama teacher and he was only 14 years old or women's store it's both it is i think it's out of business though there's a bad reference then

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And then, yeah, she was a drama teacher. He was 14.

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I swear. And that's like official. They don't deny that.

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And you get these moments where you're just like, you know, there were no black people here when this was built because there's no way we would even like it's so cold that we would be like, let's see if we can get a sleigh up here and try to build roads. Like it's just and it's amazing. Like Zermatt, look at that. It's the most beautiful town.

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14-year-old?

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That's my point. It's very different.

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The age difference matters. If you're 30, if you become an adult and you want to whatever, I don't really care. Like if you want to be a 30-year-old man, you know, 30-year-old woman marrying a 70-year-old man, it's not my business. You're both adults. And usually there's some like financial consideration, whatever. But 14-year-old boy doesn't.

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A dowry, yeah. For a 14-year-old boy, it's just weird. And so the media just kind of tried to sell it. And, yeah, I just kind of looked at the story, went through it. There was so much evidence. And there was a reason. They started locking – they're like locking up journalists. Like just so you know, they started arresting people. You don't do that because someone's lying.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And that's a lie. He was 14 when he was in the play because they told the story about what play he was in. So the journalists went back and they were like, he was 14 when he was in his play. So it was like just little media lies.

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So what they had done was what they started to do, and I show this in my series, is to make the mainstream media convince you that it was all a lie. They were suing people for defamation and winning. And so they were like, obviously it's not true, but they were lying about why they were winning the defamation claim. So they were never winning on the substance, like you transitioned.

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They'd wait for someone to make a mistake of like, you know, not Brigitte Macron as a man, but they said that Brigitte Macron went to La Providence High School. And like, or like, you know, Brigitte McCrone's uncle was this. And then they would go and slap them with a defamation lawsuit. I see. And be able to prove that they made a mistake somewhere else.

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And the press would just lie and pretend that like, well, they would tell you half a truth. Like they did get sued for defamation, but it wasn't regarding whether or not she was a man.

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Yeah.

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That's fine. But this wasn't that. And it's also because you can't then misrepresent yourself as like a Catholic, a strong Catholic who's leading a country. People vote for reasons. So if you want to be an open transgendered person who likes 14 year old boys and you decide to run and a country elects you. Cool. You know, that's their business.

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And they figured out how to make everything happen on tiny little roads and with taxis going up and in between. Wow.

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No, they got married in 2007. When he was how old? Way older. Well, then that's kind of different. No, but they were together. Oh, they were together the whole time. Oh, yeah, yeah. They are basically like she fell in love and couldn't resist anymore. And then he went to a school and they tried to romanticize it. But there's a lot more that went on here.

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I mean, there's a ton of people around them that have then been arrested for... And this is pedophile crimes. No, it's like these are the I mean, I only presented the facts because he sent me a legal threat. OK, like don't publish this series sort of a thing. And we went back at him and we said, Mr. Mr. McCrone, we won't publish a single episode if you just answer this question.

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And we gave him 21 yes or no questions. The first one was Brigitte Macron born a biological male. They came back and refused to answer. They said they don't owe you an answer. Now, that's stupid. If you're going to tell me if this is causing you so much distress and defamation, of course, the laws are if somebody tries to get the true answer from you, you can't sue for defamation.

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That is Zermatt.

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That's how it works in America.

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But if you're sending a 100-page letter, honey, you're already engaging, right? So they sent me a letter first. So it's ridiculous. And then they said like, you know, emotional distress, all this stuff. Well, we said, okay, let's end this. We're not interested in conspiracy theories. We'll end this. You tell us, did Brigitte Macron live as a man named Jean-Michel Trognoe? Yes or no.

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Yeah. Have you been to Switzerland?

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They refused to answer. You know, I'm like, okay, so what is it? You can't, I can't have both ways. If you want this to come to an end, I have the platform to end that. I will say, we looked into the story. Here are the responses we got. It's definitively not true. Of course I would have done that. It doesn't, it doesn't like help my platform to be caught in a lie.

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Then people will lose trust in me. You know what I'm saying? So they find out that I knowingly lied and she wrote and said, you know, no, I never lived as this person, whatever that would reflect poorly on me.

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You know,

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Yeah. Switzerland is truly a beautiful, beautiful country. And I love the mountains. I will say that I'm a mountain girl. I do not love, I actually kind of hate beaches. Really? I have an issue with sand. I have beef with sand. Yeah. It just gets everywhere. I don't know. It's drying and it gets everywhere and I just don't like it.

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I can't pronounce any of it.

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And now I'm doing the Harvey series, which is going to – people are going to go crazy.

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Oh, she's just not black. The whole series started by accident. She just like, and I say she, I meant the mainstream media just came for Janet Jackson. And you can't come for the Jackson family. You know, I grew up in a black household. You kind of look like a Jackson a little. Thank you. Oh my gosh, thank you. Stop. God, it would be good. Wow. I'm just going to eat up.

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I'm just going to – that compliment, I'm just going to let that hit.

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It was not her grandmother.

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Yeah, we ended up finding, I just knew. And it was just like a vibe. Like I said, some of these things you just know. Like you just, you can't explain it. Like when you're black, you just know certain things. You know, like a fisherman sees another fisherman in the wild sort of a thing.

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Yeah, we just kind of know.

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And you can't tell what?

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Yeah. So the Kamala Chronicles just happened by accident. I was like, there's nothing about her that just signals to me that she's black. And she was kind of running on being black. And then we started our series and she dropped it. She would not say she was black again. She would not answer. Oh, yeah. She never said it again. Never called herself the first black nothing.

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They stopped immediately because they I just realized they like come up with these books and people just don't ever actually prod the narrative. And there was a ton of things that weren't making sense. And so we got in touch with her uncle and he was like, nope. That person's not related to me. Nope. He was like, I, it was crazy. I just got that. That's me. I get like, I'll get into the weed.

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Yeah, she's I mean, she's mixed her, but she's not black. And so running as a first black person was just completely crazy. She's not mixed black.

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She's Indian, Indian, Syrian, Jew and Irish.

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She's on black. Wow. Yeah. And she was running on like a black thing.

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No.

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And now the one that we're doing is the Harvey Weinstein files.

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No, it actually started. There was a random woman who had reached out to me and basically said, you know, you're the only person that I think that would actually look into this case beyond the media. And I'll be honest, like when I when they first contacted me, I was like convinced he was guilty because like how could there was just so many people that were saying that he did this or that.

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And I'm like, someone somewhere has to be telling the truth. And then when I got into the actual, after speaking to him, which was like a crazy conversation.

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Yeah, I've been speaking to Harvey for years now. And it was a crazy conversation because there was no reason, we have nothing in common. Like Harvey, first and foremost, is like the number one donor to the ADL. I'm like on their list. he's huge democratic donor. I'm Republican.

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And so, and he's still all of those things, which is like when we had our first conversation, he was just sort of like, who are you? Like, why do you exist?

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No, that person put us on the phone. I guess, I guess she was kind of lobbying him being like, you need to have someone who's an independent journalist. Look at this case. Like, or it's never going to get a fair shake in the media because they have you as like, you know, the devil and, So that was like a super interesting conversation. And we still have nothing in common.

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But I am very good at being nuanced. And a lot of people, if you don't like Trump, then you are okay. If he's wrongfully convicted, they pick people's character and decide that they're okay with whatever happens to them. And I'm kind of the opposite, where I will be very nuanced and say, like, Harvey was immoral. Harvey was cheating on his wife. Harvey was abusing his power. As the

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the guy in Hollywood. I do not believe after looking at the case that he has been... I do believe that he's wrongfully convicted. And so it actually, as I was looking into this, his case in New York got overturned on appeal. And so he's... So it's going to be interesting to see what happens. But he definitely... he knows where all the bodies are buried in Hollywood too.

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So he was an interesting guy to piss off because he was the phone call. He was the one phone call every A-lister made when they got themselves into trouble too. And they all turned on him.

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And when the Me Too movement happened, I think men were scared. So a lot of them turned on him because what other option did you have? They had woman after woman after woman coming out. And men could not stand up in that environment when it first happened. And so I think a lot of them turned on him because it was basic self-preservation.

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And careers were being ended, like on a blink of a tweet, she'd be like, he looked at me funny and they would be like, he's no, he stepped down from the corporation today. I'm like, over the tweet, what's happening here? It was wild times. I always stood up against the Me Too movement. I was very adamantly against it, vocal against it.

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And people on the left and the right condemned me for it, for my stance on Me Too.

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It's out of control. I mean, we need due process. That's like, you can't just tweet something and say, Theobald did this and then he loses everything. You got to actually have due process.

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It was crazy. But yeah, so I think me doing this is because now that everyone's done snorting the Me Too lines and it's coming down from the high, it's good to be like, hey, so you remember when we were doing that thing and everyone was just kind of saying everyone was guilty on the basis of an allegation? Let's actually go back and look at one of these cases.

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I believe it is the case. You believe he was innocent. I believe he was wrongfully convicted. I don't want to say Harvey Weinstein is a moral or an innocent man because that sounds like I'm saying he behaved well.

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But there is a difference between being immoral and being a person who abuses their power and being a person who was running the peninsula like his own personal brothel and being a cold-blooded rapist. And so I want to show people what – because I was shocked opening these documents and text messages and emails and –

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reading what these women were saying after their rapes and like, you know, there's a certain way that I would speak to my rapist and that is not at all, right?

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No, because the media would not report on it and it's so similar to what we saw with this like whole Blake Lively thing going on where once they drop the article, the New York Times removes context. Like it's like, okay,

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Well, if we had had those messages that she sent to Justin Baldoni, people would not have instantly tried to cancel Justin Baldoni because they would have said, oh, this needs context. And now it's time. We're now in the era of context. So we need to go backwards and look at that most crucial case because that was the beginning of it all. And he took the fall for the Me Too movement.

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And he's still a very powerful person. It was like we have gotten into it. I'm just like arguing in prison with Harvey Weinstein. And you can see who he is and who he was. But I just believe in justice. If I hate you, I will still defend you if I think you're wrongfully convicted. I hated Matt Lauer, and I was like, come on, guys, calling him a rapist because he had an affair with his intern.

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I mean, women are just always so hopeless.

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Yeah, I know. But the men get powerful. That's a joke.

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For men now, though, I mean, like, what is the incentive to hire women after the Me Too era? If we don't go back and course correct, I would be scared.

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That's what I mean. That's not fun. It's like we need to go back to being able to make fun of women. And also, by the way, the end result, women don't like that. We don't like men that are castrated and men that now won't ask women on dates, men that won't hit on women. So we created a whole culture and now women are frustrated by the culture. Everyone's a wimp, you know? Good point.

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It's like, okay, cool. Ask her out. Tell her she looks nice. And guess what, girls? You can just say, no, I'm not into you. Like he can suffer the humiliation of thinking he had a chance. But why are we ruining like natural relations between men and women? Like it's nice for guys to hold doors, ask you out, make you feel pretty. Yeah, get you a chocolate or something. Yeah, definitely.

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Yeah, for McDonald's.

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I need to know what's your meal at McDonald's. I judge everybody by this would be very careful.

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Yeah.

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Do you add any Big Mac sauce to that?

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That's an okay order. I mean, it's not fun, but it's okay.

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Milks?

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What in the Theobald world? We ride here.

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What? Two milks?

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He's the only person that's ever used to call my sister little milk jug. Because she built like that.

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Click on the third one right there. Nobody in the history of McDonald's ever got the milk jug but Theo Vaughn. They kept that on the menu for Theo Vaughn.

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Because they only have like 10 because no one orders them. So if you order more than two, they've been sitting in the freaking.

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Wait, stop a double cheeseburger with a double milk jug?

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That is a Beovon order, man. That is right there.

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Are we good? Do I sound good? I look great. I look perfect. Oh, dang.

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The adult order.

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The McFish. Yeah, see, I feel like I can't trust the McFish. That upsets me. Hell no. She has the wrong order. And I'm not here to respect your mother, but I would speak to her about that.

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Nobody should be ordering the McFish. I want to be very clear. I agree. Like you get like a high C orange. It's obviously delicious. And the McMuffin sausage egg and cheese McMuffin. Oh, is that what you get? Amazing. Their hash browns in the morning are fantastic. They're absolutely fantastic. And you know what? RFK Jr. is bringing back beef tallow.

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So we're going to be able to get some beef tallow fries.

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Shake. No, no, no, no. Steak and shake.

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And I've never had it. I've never had Steak and Shake, but I don't even know where to find a Steak and Shake because I'm from the North.

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Have you had Steak and Shake?

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I think they were just in service to the state. I think the whole idea of the fourth estate was fake. They weren't here to defend the people. They were here to defend the state, at least since the 60s. That's what they've been doing. And now where they are right now is in survival mode. They don't know what to do. They don't know what to do with the new media.

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I think they're going to try to create backdoor ways to reacquire their talent. I don't know if you followed the recent deal with Fox News building, which is crazy. They purchased Red Seat Ventures. Do you work with Red Seat Ventures?

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likes on social media there people seem to have a bit more to them as individuals but that could just be the people I was talking to yeah I absolutely love London it's like a second home and there is a totally different culture and if you're one of those people that I like to be uncomfortable so I like to go somewhere where I know absolutely nothing and be uncomfortable and learn and a lot of people don't like that they instantly become judgmental and kind of resort to stereotypes of whoa well the you know the English and the king and the queen and whatever it is that's kind of programmed into you I am like the exact opposite person like

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Red Seat. So that's a no. You don't work with them. No, I don't. So they were doing advertising for independent podcasters. And we had spoken to them and we were just kind of like, no, we kind of broke away from corporation structure. We don't really want to like we want to do everything in house sort of a thing. And then they purchased Red Seat Ventures.

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So they were able to kind of backdoor reacquire. Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, everyone they fired, which is kind of crazy. Think about how weird that is. I was sitting here looking at this deal and I'm like, didn't you just fire Tucker? And now you're like, why don't you guys just admit you were wrong? Just come out and be like, you know what? Tucker's got the juice.

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So there's all these articles, Fox is interested in the podcast world. And so they reacquired- Via just the... I'm not saying that they own the Tucker Carlson podcast. They don't. But Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly and who's the third one? Bill O'Reilly, who they literally fired all these people, were all using Red Seat Ventures.

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And Red Seat Ventures, their pitch, because I remember that I spoke to them, was kind of like... eventually all roads lead to Red Seat Ventures because you realize you need somebody to do your advertising deals. Like you're going independent, but you don't want to handle all the advertisers, whatever.

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And so they literally, if you look up Red Seat Ventures just in Google, you'll see like the recent deal. Fox News acquired Red Seat Ventures. And I'm like, Okay, that's just, it's an interesting, it's objectively an interesting move because it kind of signals to me that you wanted to reacquire your talent. You know what I'm saying?

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Yeah, scroll down. So Chris Balfe is the other, the founding partners. I would go down.

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Yeah, I would go out of PR Newswire because that's just like them writing it and they're not going to say what talent was with it. I would go to Reuters, yeah. They would probably have, yeah. Oh, Reuters?

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You know what? I've been saying Reuters.

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Yeah, so they've been interested, but like, yeah, it was Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and oh, here you go. Carlson, Kelly, Sean Ryan. Oh, no, that's just saying that we reached millions of subscribers daily, but yeah, they had...

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So I didn't like that at all for like Carlson and Kelly and O'Reilly. Cause I'm like, whoa, you fired me, homie. You know what I mean? Like, hold on. Let's be very clear. You shamed me publicly. You fired me. You said, whatever. I wasn't a part of this, but whatever it was. And now you're kind of like trying to build this little backward network. No, you need to say you're sorry first. Well,

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But I'm sure that like, obviously the red seat will have had a deal with them that will expire. And what will happen is those people just won't renew if they don't want to, because they might say, um, no, you literally fired me. Do you know what I'm saying?

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So, yeah, so they're, they're the middle guy, but I thought it was an interesting move without saying, you're sorry, trying to reacquire someone.

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What I would say is right now, America is kind of in the midst of this identity crisis. And that's in large part because it's been conditioned now by the media and the school system in partnership to kind of tell people you should hate your country. And the reality is most Americans never leave their country. They know nothing. They have nothing to weigh it against.

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And they sort of blindly accept this narrative that like we're just these bad guys who did bad things. And there's been sort of this like American shaming narrative. That's taken place. And it's been effective. That began to sort of snap back with Trump culture. And that's kind of what people were missing. It wasn't about when make America great again.

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It's like, allow me to just feel good as a American. Like, why can't I like being American? Why can't what's wrong with just being straight? Like, it's like we celebrate everything. But like, we almost started like hating normalcy, which is like a weird thing to say. But like, If you were gay, if you were anything, is something going on, whatever, and it's handicapped. It was like, yes, yes.

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And then if you were just like, yeah, I'm just like a straight white dude. It was like, oh my gosh, what do you mean? That's not- You queer then. Yeah, you guys became the queers. Yeah. And so that was weird.

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I absolutely love their culture. I love that there's so many rules. Like there's no reason for rules. They have rules. You know what I mean? I love that they wear hats still to weddings, like fascinators rather, which I learned. I learned that they're called fascinators, not hats. A fascinator is a hat? It's called a – like the ones you wear to the wedding, those are called fascinators, not hats.

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But you're right. You said we were saying the flag became the symbol of, like... And it's like, nobody else noticed that?

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It's like, what's wrong with this? Yeah, like... That's what I mean. We got crazy. We got absolutely crazy. And so we were in the midst of an identity crisis, but it was a social engineering. It happened intentionally. They wanted people to feel that way.

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And I think now it's snapping back and we're starting to realize the problem are these people who are making us feel like we had nothing in common before. And we have a lot more in common than we don't. you know, do not defy or who are the stereotype. But that's not the majority of people. The majority of people just want to go to work, have a job, have low gas prices. Live in a safe place.

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Live in a safe place. It's not that hard, right?

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Yeah, I mean, but also we should be clear, like not everybody should be here if they don't appreciate what it means to be an American. You should not be allowed to be here. Like there is like if you have resentment for America and at the same time you want to come to America, we have a problem.

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You also have the freedom to stay in your own country.

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That's cool. You can hate America, but we need to have a process where people that resent America are not coming into America. We do have a value system like America was founded on Christian principles and things of that nature. And they are like, no, there's nothing. You can be whatever. It's like, no, you can't be whatever. Actually, you can't just be whatever and come to America.

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You know, maybe you and I have that privilege. We were born here that if we get angry at our country, we can voice that.

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Yes.

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Right. But if you're coming here and we're able to decide whether or not we want you to be here, these things now we need to make sure that culturally, whatever it is that you believe and whatever your ideas are, however you view America, that now becomes relevant. We need to have a system that works.

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And there is a difference. Bring it up. A fascinator. Yeah. I want to see him spell it too because that's even – He sounds like a gay superhero kind of.

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Look at Japan. You know, look at Japan. Japan is let's be very clear. It's we are the only country that has this idea that everyone should come here. It's insane, obviously, because that doesn't work.

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Right. And multiculturalism doesn't actually work. And I hate to tell people that. I know it's like a fluffy dream. It doesn't work. What do you mean by that? You have to have a culture. There are certain cultures that cannot coincide with one another. So let's say, for example, your culture believes that children should be able to make decisions about their sexuality.

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That actually conflicts with my culture. And so I actually do not want you in my country. I don't.

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Well, no, I'm talking about like people that believe that like a like a nine year old girl can have sex with, you know, an adult. It's like that just conflicts with our culture. Right. I agree. Right. So we we don't believe in that. And so what this whole idea of multiculturalism is, no matter what you think, we can find a home and you can kind of build your own nest here.

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It's like, no, actually, I'm comfortable with us saying you can't do that. I'm comfortable. We're going to send you the front lines because of your opinions. Yeah.

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and you've got to go fight some war and yeah with no helmets and so that's what it is we have to we have to define what it is that we believe and it's been increasingly difficult because people are forgetting just a couple of generations ago we what we agreed on in america our parents were religious you forget that like what is the story of the south like what is the story of the bible belt why is it called the bible belt you

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Yeah, it could be another conversation. But I think America. was is a Christian nation that has forgotten that in many ways and forgotten why we were so much more cohesive and comprehensive when we had faith at the center of what we did.

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And once we started removing faith, and I'm talking about removing the Bible from the classroom, which was done in the early 70s, if I'm correct, Department of Education kind of a thing, people got lost real quick. And so I guess what I'm arguing for is a theocracy, which means you're going to run it.

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Yeah. Damn, dude.

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We need a theocracy.

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I believe that we're a Christian nation. And that used to be the thing, like before the flag became racist, we were all saying one nation under God. And then we began, we became this nation that was one nation, like over God, like people are become their own gods or worshiping Hollywood. It's like crazy. We become like a pagan culture.

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And I think a lot of that is demonic, you know, and the Bible will tell you all of those things about idolatry. Kids would have been learning that, you know, I grew up learning the Bible on it. Well, what, what is, what is a demon? If you have – you speak often about like you used to have addictions and things like that.

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And when I grew up in a household, people in my family still have addiction issues. It's a demon.

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It's Babylon. Yeah. They love the culture of excess. Everything that the Bible tells us not to celebrate becomes the thing. That's why it's a Hollywood Babylon. It's like they're trying to stay young forever. That's weird. Why don't you want to age? And they look crazy.

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You want to be fresh, but I'm not afraid of aging. Look at these ones. They look terrifying, and they're holding and stretched, and it's like, dude, you could just be 80. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And so you wear, they still wear hats to weddings and I love it. So when I go to weddings now, I wear hats. Well, I call them hats just for Americans to understand, but fascinators and to shop for fascinators is really fun. It's actually like, I feel like this, you would be hilarious shopping for a fascinator, you know, cause you can just find one that speaks to your character, you know?

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Yeah.

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These girls are 22 looking like they're 50.

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I've always wondered what the kiss feels like.

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jewish people in hollywood too so that's why i'm like it's so just disingenuous every time we talk to them they all agree on this topic of bb net and yahoo like they they will support israel but they'll be like they can critique him and so we need to normalize that like don't try to tell black people they have to support blm don't tell jewish people they have to support israel allow people to be individuals allow people to say what they think you know is right or is wrong without trying to pigeonhole them according to their identity

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We're thinking homeschooling.

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Me until they get to sixth grade math. And then I'm going to be like, wait a second.

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My husband's excellent at math, but he wouldn't do it.

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We talked about this. He sends war letters. He's English. He just sits in his library and sends war letters and laments the lost colonies. I think he married me because he's trying to build some back roads to the UK, reacquiring America. I think it's not over. The Revolutionary War is not over until it's over. You know what I'm saying? He's an agent.

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He's a British agent trying to reacquire the colonies. He slipped once. He called me a colonist. Kind of romantic.

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yeah he's kind of romantic darkly romantic yeah yeah love you never know where you'll find it um it's interesting he keeps me he keeps me straight on the straight and narrow yeah that's i'm like why do we gotta file these taxes he's like you can't black people why you guys gotta try to not file your taxes and i was like i just i don't want to give this money to the government he's like well you got to give the money to the government so do you think that elon has um that he is like for the people

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I'm the only person always, I don't feel, I have a weird feeling about Elon. I don't know why. I'm curious about it. I just, he, Sam Altman, the AI crowd just freaks me out on a spiritual level. And sometimes it's just your gut and I'm going with my gut. I think gut is God intuition and they just freak me the hell out. Well, here's the thing I thought about this. They even all look weird.

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Like they look like they're robots, you know? Well, here's the thing. Like they come from another planet.

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No, I only run one way because I'm black.

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But we've given up that. I love gloves, hats. When you see someone wearing a lot of just hats, gloves, and what's the other thing? Your outfit to look complete. You just look more complete. You know what I mean?

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Yeah. And that scares me. Right. So I think they're like, well, why do we need a woman when we can create an artificial womb?

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Yeah, I don't like that. I feel like we should maybe pause and think about that before we all sign up.

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That's how I feel. I feel like that's what we're going to get with these people. And he has a lot of kids.

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Yeah, line up to get pregnant sort of a thing. I don't like any of it. It makes me scared and they just make me uncomfortable. And that's all I can say. I'm like, listen, I know I don't have, like you say, I don't have the information, but I have the intuition that like we're barreling towards this like AI future and the lack of emotion. Yeah. just makes me uncomfortable.

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I'm like, okay, but these are humans. They're like, but here's how we can solve the human problem.

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Maybe they are aliens.

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May 4th. May the 4th be with you. The Ides of May.

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Yes, but you were close enough. Maypole.

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Not the Ides. What's May 5th?

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The Ides of March, the 15th. Oh, that's Cinco de Mayo.

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That's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, yeah. He said, what's May 5th? What's May 5th? Cinco de Mayo.

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Thank you so much for hanging out with me. Thank you for having me.

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Right.

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So it's just like America is kind of like— The best-dressed people in America are burglars, if we're being honest.

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Duck Tales. You strike me as someone who watched the Duck Tales.

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Scrooge McDuck. This is a throwback. Yeah, I remember it, but it wasn't my number one show for sure. I really loved Doug Funny. Oh, yeah. He was really like a cool guy.

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Do you think Doug funny, though? He wasn't. I mean, I thought Roger was cooler and he was blue guy.

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He was a blue guy, Roger. Oh, no. Green.

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Yeah, they probably changed.

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Do you know that thing, what is the term for it's going to escape me at the moment, but where you go back and you are so certain that something was drawn a certain way? Yeah. The Mandela effect. Yeah. That really creeps me out too. Do you know what I'm talking about?

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This is like a repeat conversation. First off, there's the women. We always run cold.

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Right. And I'm certain it was like the Bernstein bears.

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Yeah. That freaks me out.

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Yes. Fruit of the loom had a cornucopia.

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And they're saying it doesn't now. So who's doing it? Who's deleting it? Who's deleting the files of our memories? Because I am certain Fruit of the Loom had a cornucopia. Me too.

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But this is the kind of stuff where they just are deleting. They're deleting files now. So someone is just at the CIA just like hitting the delete button.

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I'll have one for you. Pikachu.

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Yes, there was no black little thing at the end of it. Now they're saying Pikachu never had that. That stresses me out. There was a black ball at the end. The one on the left is correct, and they're saying the black ball never existed. So someone's just deleting the files. They're deleting the files.

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Yeah, and so I'm a woman and I'm black, so I naturally like the heat.

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Yeah. Are you saying we're getting old?

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Thank you.

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I really don't, and it's definitely a consideration because people are constantly saying to me, worry about your safety, get security. But I kind of think security is one of these things that you get for your own vanity because my perspective is they shot JFK in a moving vehicle. He's supposed to be the most secure person in the United States.