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Betrayal Weekly: Nobody Should Believe Me — S5 E1

Thu, 03 Apr 2025 04:00:00 +0000

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If you like our show, we know you'll love this season of Nobody Should Believe Me, produced and hosted by Andrea Dunlop. While we're hard at work bringing you more Betrayal episodes, we’re going to throw it to Andrea Dunlop, who has a story unlike anything we've ever heard.    You can listen to the rest of Nobody Should Believe Me season 5 on all podcast platforms. Andrea Dunlop’s first nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door, is available now.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What unexpected event changed everything after Jeremy Scott's confession?

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this is an iHeart podcast something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one every time I hear about my dad is oh he's a killer he's just straight evil I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known at the end of the day I'm literally a son of a killer

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25.717 - 32.518 Unknown Speaker

Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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35.39 - 42.592 Andrea Gunning

Hi, guys. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of Betrayal. I'm excited to bring you all Season 4, a story of a cop and his double life.

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43.072 - 60.418 Andrea Gunning

I'm also excited to tell you that you can now get access to all episodes of Betrayal Season 1, 2, 3, and Betrayal Weekly and every single episode of Betrayal Season 4 ad-free and one week early through the iHeart True Crime Plus subscription available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.

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61.238 - 82.298 Andrea Gunning

Plus, you'll get access to other charred-topping true crime shows you love, like The Real Killer, The Girlfriends, American Homicide, There and Gone South Street, Burden of Guilt, Murder on Songbird Road, The Idaho Massacre, Paper Ghosts, and more. So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts, search for iHeart True Crime Plus, and subscribe today.

86.112 - 99.214 Melissa Jeltsin

Hi, listeners. I'm Melissa Jeltsin, host of What Happened to Talena Zarr. It's the story of a woman who disappears in the early days of COVID lockdowns and the group of online sleuths who try to find her.

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I didn't want to be talked out of this plan. After I post this, I am turning off my phone for exactly this reason. I kept just kind of asking everybody, anyone else think this is strange? You'll notice that about me. I don't lurk. I'm out there. I'm an action kind of girl.

122.316 - 139.785 Melissa Jeltsin

You can now get access to episodes of What Happened to Talena Zar 100% ad-free with an iHeart True Crime Plus subscription. I'm a subscriber and you should be too. So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts, search iHeart True Crime Plus and subscribe today.

148.573 - 170.972 Holly Fry

Explore the winding halls of historical true crime with Holly Fry and Maria Tremarcki, hosts of Criminalia, as they uncover curious cases from the past. The legend of the highwayman suggests men dominated the field, but tell that to Lady Catherine Ferrars, known as the Wicked Lady, who terrorized England in the mid-1600s. Her legend persists nearly 400 years after her death.

Chapter 2: What is the story behind Sophie Hartman's case?

2818.241 - 2839.714 Andrea Dunlop

So much is glossed over in the book, but the scenes like this one where Sophie is heroically saving children feel downright cinematic. So as we move away from Sophie's account of her origin story and the adoptions go through for both C and M in 2015, this brings us back into the real world, a world where Sophie is now a single mother of two.

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2841.209 - 2863.102 Andrea Dunlop

And after leaving Zambia, she doesn't choose to head home to Michigan, where her family and friends live, where her childhood church congregation is, or where her entire support system appears to reside. She moves to Seattle, where I live. This season on Nobody Should Believe Me.

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If she wasn't guilty of these allegations, if she was not doing what this search warrant was alleging, you know, how horrific. I mean, she seems like a saint. She would start to talk about money and how, you know, she doesn't have any money and she needs fundraisers and all this stuff. But her daughter is in one of the most expensive sports.

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And I believe the church raised about around $30,000, something like that. I'd gone through a very traumatic experience, having her children taken away. And we, as Haven Church, got the opportunity to support her and hold her up with our prayers. But from my observations, she's like the healthiest kid I've ever seen in my life.

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Would eat as much as we'd feed her, but given the fact that her digestive system is so messed up, my daughter has to regulate that. I had a hard time imagining being a parent and making videos of those kinds of things for my kid. Did you ever witness having what Sophie calls one of her episodes? I did not. She allegedly had this journal entry that talked about how she had an issue with lying.

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Every time I go in, like, to the doctor, she wouldn't be exhibiting those symptoms. I'm like, I know this sounds crazy, but I'm not making this up. This is not, this is not. Yeah, well, you're the mom. Yeah. Would it surprise you if I told you that AHC is not a terminal disease? Yes, it would.

2955.99 - 2962.459 John Smith

So I think that all of the signs and symptoms are here for like, it's obviously a concern that she's pushing this child towards death.

2966.986 - 2989.116 Andrea Dunlop

Nobody Should Believe Me is written, hosted, and executive produced by me, Andrea Dunlop. Our senior producer is Mariah Gossett. Story editing by Nicole Hill. Research and fact-checking by Erin Ajayi. And our associate producer is Greta Stromquist. Mixing and engineering by Robin Edgar. Book passages were performed by Ilana Michelle Rubin.

2989.756 - 3008.962 Andrea Dunlop

Special thanks this week to Chad Goller Sojourner, Glory Mishingi, Francisco Alvarado, who originally covered the story for The Daily Beast, and the many people who spoke to us on background. If you or anyone you know is a victim or survivor of medical child abuse, please go to munchausensupport.com to connect with professionals who can help.

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