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Behind the Bastards

Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

05 Jun 2025

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Robert explores Dr. Church's weird history with eugenics adjacent projects, like the world's creepiest dating app, and how Colossal Biosciences was created and immediately used by the Trump administration as an excuse to attack the Endangered Species Act.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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5.687 - 8.228 Robert Evans

What's Epstein, my Jeffries?

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8.308 - 9.87 Sophie

I think I've done a version of that before.

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9.91 - 18.055 Robert Evans

Should we not? Is that bad, Sophie? I didn't like it the first time. Should we not start that way? How many chances do you get now that he's dead, you know?

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18.836 - 20.157 Sophie

Zero. We don't need to do that.

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20.177 - 30.044 Robert Evans

That's right. That's right. That's the real tragedy, you know? No. I wouldn't say tragedy. No. Langston Kerman, our guest. How are you?

30.615 - 40.202 Langston Kerman

I'm doing great. I'm excited to hear more. This feels weird to say out loud, but I'm excited to hear more about Jeffrey Epstein and everything he's been up to with our boy George Church.

40.242 - 59.898 Robert Evans

Thankfully, we are past. We're done with the Epstein part of the story because, you know, how that ends. Obviously, Bernie Sanders sneaks into prison and puts him out of his misery in order to keep some certain people's secrets or something. You know, nobody knows. Right. Some people are pretty sure they know. I don't know.

60.618 - 80.275 Robert Evans

there's like i would say like four or five people who probably know exactly there's like four or five yeah maybe who know exactly yeah uh i yeah i continue to be you know uh an agnostic i'm an epstein agnostic uh but definitely fucking george church i feel like knows more than he's letting on

81.096 - 83.48 Langston Kerman

He knows more than we do on this podcast, for sure.

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