All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
JD Vance's AI Speech, Techno-Optimists vs Doomers, Tariffs, AI Court Cases with Naval Ravikant
Sat, 15 Feb 2025
(0:00) The Besties intro Naval Ravikant! (9:07) Naval reflects on his thoughtful tweets and reputation (14:17) Unique views on parenting (23:20) Sacks joins to talk AI: JD Vance's speech in Paris, Techno-Optimists vs Doomers (1:11:06) Tariffs and the US economic experiment (1:21:15) Thomson Reuters wins first major AI copyright decision on behalf of rights holders (1:35:35) Chamath's dinner with Bryan Johnson, sleep hacks (1:45:09) Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr. confirmed Follow Naval: https://x.com/naval Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/naval/status/1002103360646823936 https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1889349078657716680 https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/removing-barriers-to-american-leadership-in-artificial-intelligence https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/politics/kamala-harris-foreign-trip/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/11/anduril-to-take-over-microsofts-22-billion-us-army-headset-program.html https://x.com/JDVance/status/1889640434793910659 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCNYhuISzxg https://www.wired.com/story/thomson-reuters-ai-copyright-lawsuit https://admin.bakerlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/ECF-1-Complaint.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xTGNNLPyMI https://polymarket.com/event/which-trump-picks-will-be-confirmed?tid=1739471077488
Why is Naval Ravikant a favorite guest?
Great job, Naval. You rocked it. Maybe I should have said this on air, but that was literally the most fun podcast I've ever recorded. Oh, that's on air. Cut that in. Yeah, put it in the show. Put it in the show. I had my theory on why you were number one, but now I have the realization.
What's the actual reason? You know us for a long time.
Yeah, what was your theory? What's the reality? My theory was that my problem with going on podcasts is usually the person I'm talking to is not that interesting. They're just asking the same questions, and they're dialing it in, and they're not that interested. It's not like we're having a peer level actual conversations.
That's why I wanted to do air chat and Clubhouse and things like that, because you can actually have a conversation. Oh, I see. Right? And what you guys have very uniquely is four people of whom at least three are intelligent. I'm kidding.
How could you say that? Sax isn't here. Sax isn't even here and you say that? That is so cold.
These three are intelligent and all of you get along and you can have an ongoing conversation. That's a very high hit rate. Normally in a podcast, you only get one interesting person and now you've got three, maybe four, right? Okay. So that to me was why- Who invited this guy?
Who are you talking to?
He's number four. We don't know. He'll remain mysterious forever. Of the four, right? The problem is if you get people together to talk, two is a good conversation. Three possibly, four is the max. That's why the dinner table at a restaurant, four top, right? You don't do five or six because then it splits into multiple conversations. So you had four people who were capable of talking, right?
That I thought was a secret, but there's another secret. The other secret is you guys are having fun. You're talking over each other. You're making fun of each other. You're actually having fun. So that's why I'm saying this is the most fun podcast I've ever been on. Awesome. That's why you'll be successful.
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