(0:00) Chamath and Friedberg welcome Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick! (1:10) Howard describes his 30+ year relationship with President Trump and his road from business to politics (14:44) Running Trump's transition team, DOGE origin story, what it's like working for Trump (38:01) Balancing the budget and fixing GDP (52:21) Tariff history and strategy, global trade (1:10:34) Trump Cards, building better government software, AI thoughts (1:22:49) Sovereign Wealth Fund strategy (1:37:16) How his family reacted to his new role Thanks to our partners for making this happen: Gemini: https://www.gemini.com/allin Hims: https://www.hims.com | https://www.forhers.com iTrustCapital (use code allin): https://www.itrustcapital.com/allin Follow Secretary Lutnick: https://x.com/howardlutnick Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect
How did Howard Lutnick's relationship with Trump begin?
Yeah.
I would call him and say, it's an emergency. It's emergency. I need to see you. He'd fly and go, what is it? I go, you need to join the administration. He goes, that's what the emergency was. I go,
And Howard, was that when you conceived originally Doge in that initial, was that during the transition?
All right, so Doge. Yeah, we should talk about Doge and tariffs.
Okay, so Doge comes, it's October of, before the election.
Okay.
Early October. October 2024. October 2024. Yeah. Like the beginning of October 2024. And I called the president and I said, I need to spend an hour with you.
i have my big ideas yeah right so he gives me he says look i'm not sure what to do october 7th right why don't we figure out what i should be doing october 7th so we decided we're going to go out to the oh hell which is uh uh a super religious uh hasidic jewish um messiah you know the people who wear black hats think he's the messiah and they have a crypt for him where you write a note and you put a note in all right and so
We agreed we'd go out to that grave site and we'd probably win 60,000 of those kind of voters, which is pretty cool for a day. And then we drove there and back together, the two of us. So I had an hour and a half, just he and me talking. And I said, I want to balance the budget in the United States of America. And this is the way we're gonna do it.
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