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Behind Chamber Doors

Thu, 05 Jun 2025

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Frieda Hanimov feared she would lose custody of her children because she suspected New York State Supreme Court Judge Gerald Garson was corrupt. She went to authorities and agreed to wear a wire. One woman's fight for her kids led to a full-fledged anti-corruption probe. “48 Hours" Correspondent Lesley Stahl reports. This classic "48 Hours" episode last aired on 8/4/2007. Watch all-new episodes of “48 Hours” on Saturdays, and stream on demand on Paramount+. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Why did Frida Hanimov go undercover?

170.569 - 174.01 Frida Hanimov

I'll meet them about five, six blocks away from the warehouse.

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178.251 - 183.673 Detective

We'd meet her, wire her up, talk to her, prep her about what she's going to say when she goes in.

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186.462 - 190.164 Frida Hanimov

When you get off from your car, you see this big, huge warehouse.

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192.285 - 211.434 Michael Vecchione

I mean, not a place that we were very happy about sending her into, but it was necessary. She was not the type of individual who you would normally put a recording device on. She was pregnant, and to have a pregnant woman who had no experience doing this, it was harrowing on us as well.

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212.955 - 233.037 Frida Hanimov

And this big steel gate will open up My heart was really going fast. And then the boom, they close it after me. I said, oh my God, I have no way out, even if I want to run away.

238.079 - 241.08 Michael Vecchione

She could have been harmed. She could have been hurt. She could have been killed.

244.997 - 252.721 Frida Hanimov

The truth is when I went inside, I didn't care about myself. This is the last chance I have to keep my kids.

260.184 - 261.725 Nisim Elman

Chamber of Secrets.

277.644 - 280.307 Frida Hanimov

And this is a big mahogany door that I bought.

Chapter 2: What evidence did Frida gather against the judge?

Chapter 3: How did corruption affect Frida's custody battle?

Chapter 4: What role did Nisim Elman play in the case?

51.331 - 53.473 Narrator

I made a promise. I would never stop looking.

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53.753 - 59.137 Narrator

In Tracker. All episodes now streaming on Paramount+. And returning CBS Fall.

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75.046 - 83.068 Prosecutor

We're talking about corruption in the court system and the pawns that are being played with here are children.

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84.788 - 103.973 Michael Vecchione

The very fabric of the legal system is at stake here. There is a question. If I walk into a courtroom, am I getting a fair shot? Am I getting a fair shake? I'm Michael Vecchione, and I am the Chief of the Rackets Division in the Brooklyn District Attorney's Office.

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104.453 - 116.636 Michael Vecchione

And I was in charge of the investigation begun by Frida Hanimov, who started this by walking into our office and telling us that she was about to lose her children because a judge had been fixed.

118.316 - 152.96 Frida Hanimov

I felt something is wrong, but I couldn't prove it. I just couldn't prove it. I said, what kind of America is this? I'm Frida Hanimov. I went undercover for the district attorney office to nail a corrupt judge. I'm not a police officer. I'm not a detective. I'm a mother and a nurse. I'll do anything, anything in the world to keep my kids. Even if I have to fight with a tiger, I'll do it.

154.204 - 164.307 Michael Vecchione

a Supreme Court judge being paid off, being bribed. You can't get much more serious than that. So he decided to put a recording device on her.

165.928 - 169.169 Detective

This is the neighborhood that we took Freda to.

Chapter 5: What was Judge Garson's involvement in the corruption?

Chapter 6: How did Frida's situation escalate with her ex-husband?

104.453 - 116.636 Michael Vecchione

And I was in charge of the investigation begun by Frida Hanimov, who started this by walking into our office and telling us that she was about to lose her children because a judge had been fixed.

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118.316 - 152.96 Frida Hanimov

I felt something is wrong, but I couldn't prove it. I just couldn't prove it. I said, what kind of America is this? I'm Frida Hanimov. I went undercover for the district attorney office to nail a corrupt judge. I'm not a police officer. I'm not a detective. I'm a mother and a nurse. I'll do anything, anything in the world to keep my kids. Even if I have to fight with a tiger, I'll do it.

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154.204 - 164.307 Michael Vecchione

a Supreme Court judge being paid off, being bribed. You can't get much more serious than that. So he decided to put a recording device on her.

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165.928 - 169.169 Detective

This is the neighborhood that we took Freda to.

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170.569 - 174.01 Frida Hanimov

I'll meet them about five, six blocks away from the warehouse.

178.251 - 183.673 Detective

We'd meet her, wire her up, talk to her, prep her about what she's going to say when she goes in.

186.462 - 190.164 Frida Hanimov

When you get off from your car, you see this big, huge warehouse.

192.285 - 211.434 Michael Vecchione

I mean, not a place that we were very happy about sending her into, but it was necessary. She was not the type of individual who you would normally put a recording device on. She was pregnant, and to have a pregnant woman who had no experience doing this, it was harrowing on us as well.

212.955 - 233.037 Frida Hanimov

And this big steel gate will open up My heart was really going fast. And then the boom, they close it after me. I said, oh my God, I have no way out, even if I want to run away.

Chapter 7: What was the outcome of Frida's undercover operation?

1138.588 - 1152.997 Frida Hanimov

Okay, guys ready? I felt like they're not talking anymore about my little kids because it's so obvious they're going to be mine. In the beginning I was so dangerous, remember? Now I'm a very good mother. Now you're a good mother? All of a sudden I get visitation from my oldest son after six months.

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1153.377 - 1157.86 Prosecutor

She saw such a difference of how people treated her from top down.

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1158.223 - 1160.765 Frida Hanimov

So she gives Elman the money and boom, everything changes.

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1160.965 - 1165.808 Michael Vecchione

Semenovsky particularly became a lot less strident in terms of his feelings towards her.

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1166.228 - 1173.693 Frida Hanimov

Semenovsky, good morning to me all of a sudden and the judge is going easy on me. I felt very good.

1180.35 - 1183.472 Prosecutor

He's pouring over a lot of the transcripts.

1183.712 - 1190.956 Frida Hanimov

It was up to the DA now to figure out how an electronic salesman could possibly be influencing custody decisions.

1191.376 - 1191.696 Nisim Elman

Okay.

1192.596 - 1194.678 Frida Hanimov

They put a tap on Elman's phone.

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