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Ronnie Tokazowski

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Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Or you may have somebody who loses $8,000 and it's the entire world to them. So it really, right now, we're not accounting for the emotional losses on this or the emotional damages for many of the victims.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Or you may have somebody who loses $8,000 and it's the entire world to them. So it really, right now, we're not accounting for the emotional losses on this or the emotional damages for many of the victims.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Yeah. So first and foremost, one of the constant patterns I've seen, and this is something I've seen with many victims, I've kind of discussed and researched the topic. Many of them tend to be extremely trusting, where if you were to be walking on the side of the street, this is the type of person who would go and help a homeless person in need.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Yeah. So first and foremost, one of the constant patterns I've seen, and this is something I've seen with many victims, I've kind of discussed and researched the topic. Many of them tend to be extremely trusting, where if you were to be walking on the side of the street, this is the type of person who would go and help a homeless person in need.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

If a dog was hurt on the side of the road, they would go and help them out. And they're some of the most kind of souls you'll ever meet. And because of that trust, the scammers have figured out that they can go manipulate and abuse that person and get them to do things that they want.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

If a dog was hurt on the side of the road, they would go and help them out. And they're some of the most kind of souls you'll ever meet. And because of that trust, the scammers have figured out that they can go manipulate and abuse that person and get them to do things that they want.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

A lot of what happens is from that control perspective, they will actually, quote unquote, I'm going to use a term that one of the victims used to me, is that they'll essentially hijack their own consciousness and give them a different perspective of reality and a different perception of reality.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

A lot of what happens is from that control perspective, they will actually, quote unquote, I'm going to use a term that one of the victims used to me, is that they'll essentially hijack their own consciousness and give them a different perspective of reality and a different perception of reality.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

And what happens is the victims will be manipulated to a point where they will be pulled away from friends, they'll be pulled away from family, and only put all their trust in this one person. And because of that, and because of the kind words that they're saying, the victims will want to go and be with that person.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

And what happens is the victims will be manipulated to a point where they will be pulled away from friends, they'll be pulled away from family, and only put all their trust in this one person. And because of that, and because of the kind words that they're saying, the victims will want to go and be with that person.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

In addition to that, you've also got a case where they will say the right words in the right way. to make the victims want to stay in it even longer. So like I said, it's a matter of working with the emotions and kind of manipulating the people in that way too.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

In addition to that, you've also got a case where they will say the right words in the right way. to make the victims want to stay in it even longer. So like I said, it's a matter of working with the emotions and kind of manipulating the people in that way too.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Another piece I also noticed is that when it comes to how we as humans process our emotions, so many of us are just disconnected and we don't even know how our emotions work. It's like, we might feel this one way about this one thing, we might feel this one way about another, but we don't realize that we actually pick up emotions from other people.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Another piece I also noticed is that when it comes to how we as humans process our emotions, so many of us are just disconnected and we don't even know how our emotions work. It's like, we might feel this one way about this one thing, we might feel this one way about another, but we don't realize that we actually pick up emotions from other people.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

And because of that, it's something where we don't understand how those mechanics work in our own bodies, let alone how we are emotionally manipulated to go and do this thing or influenced to go and do that thing.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

And because of that, it's something where we don't understand how those mechanics work in our own bodies, let alone how we are emotionally manipulated to go and do this thing or influenced to go and do that thing.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Yeah, so I'll kind of talk on the geographic of where some of these skill sets are. So for the pig butchering angle, which is mostly out of Southeast Asia, we see scammers who are skilled in setting up websites. They're skilled at working with cryptocurrencies. They understand that they need to influence a person's emotions and play on their emotions.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Yeah, so I'll kind of talk on the geographic of where some of these skill sets are. So for the pig butchering angle, which is mostly out of Southeast Asia, we see scammers who are skilled in setting up websites. They're skilled at working with cryptocurrencies. They understand that they need to influence a person's emotions and play on their emotions.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

We have some tutorials and documents from the scammers where it's like a 30-page PowerPoint in Chinese that essentially comes down to, here's where you go and tell them this piece. Here's where you influence their emotion here and do this. So they understand that emotional manipulation piece there. For some of you romance scammers in Nigeria, they're a whole different basket.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

We have some tutorials and documents from the scammers where it's like a 30-page PowerPoint in Chinese that essentially comes down to, here's where you go and tell them this piece. Here's where you influence their emotion here and do this. So they understand that emotional manipulation piece there. For some of you romance scammers in Nigeria, they're a whole different basket.