Ronnie Tokazowski

For them, they're sophisticated in money laundering. They know how check systems work. They know how to wire money from a United States bank out to another bank. And they also understand the underlying cryptocurrency networks to go and cash out a gift card or move money over here for Bitcoin.

For them, they're sophisticated in money laundering. They know how check systems work. They know how to wire money from a United States bank out to another bank. And they also understand the underlying cryptocurrency networks to go and cash out a gift card or move money over here for Bitcoin.

So it's something where depending on the geography of where the scammers are coming from, it really depends on what that skill set is. And that's just two of the top countries that we see. But there's probably four more that I could list off that we see elements of social engineering scams coming out of that, again, go back to that human emotion and kind of those human pieces.

So it's something where depending on the geography of where the scammers are coming from, it really depends on what that skill set is. And that's just two of the top countries that we see. But there's probably four more that I could list off that we see elements of social engineering scams coming out of that, again, go back to that human emotion and kind of those human pieces.

Yeah. And the other thing too, because of that safety, we will go and play so much on... trusting the social media providers to be like, okay, this social media provider has a really big name. So that means they have to be safe and I can trust anything that's coming from there. So because of how large many of these providers are, there's inherent trust of using these platforms.

Yeah. And the other thing too, because of that safety, we will go and play so much on... trusting the social media providers to be like, okay, this social media provider has a really big name. So that means they have to be safe and I can trust anything that's coming from there. So because of how large many of these providers are, there's inherent trust of using these platforms.

And so many victims will go and be like, okay, I'm going to go and trust Facebook for seeing this stuff. Yet, there was an article that came out a couple weeks ago that said, no, 8 out of 10 cybercrime or 8 out of 10 cases of cyber fraud originate on Facebook.

And so many victims will go and be like, okay, I'm going to go and trust Facebook for seeing this stuff. Yet, there was an article that came out a couple weeks ago that said, no, 8 out of 10 cybercrime or 8 out of 10 cases of cyber fraud originate on Facebook.

So when you see numbers like that, it's something where the scammers are going to use those trusted platforms to try and go after people on that. But no, I agree with you 100% is that it definitely adds a different level of fear

So when you see numbers like that, it's something where the scammers are going to use those trusted platforms to try and go after people on that. But no, I agree with you 100% is that it definitely adds a different level of fear

to how the scam actually works is because, yeah, it's like that scammer is now in your bedroom with you, and they're now stuck in your head as you're ruminating over all of the ways where they'll be like, okay, does this person love me? Are they trying to build this relationship? What else is going on? And the victims run it through their head over and over again.

to how the scam actually works is because, yeah, it's like that scammer is now in your bedroom with you, and they're now stuck in your head as you're ruminating over all of the ways where they'll be like, okay, does this person love me? Are they trying to build this relationship? What else is going on? And the victims run it through their head over and over again.

Yeah, so many of them will be texting back and forth or using WhatsApp to communicate. Like I said, we know that that's how some of them are. And many of them are receiving like Multiple messages per day. The one colleague who was in for $90,000, I'm pretty sure they would have been sending pictures back and forth.

Yeah, so many of them will be texting back and forth or using WhatsApp to communicate. Like I said, we know that that's how some of them are. And many of them are receiving like Multiple messages per day. The one colleague who was in for $90,000, I'm pretty sure they would have been sending pictures back and forth.

Just because again, you're not thinking of it in the case of, okay, this is a victim. You're not trying to think of it as somebody who believes they're in a relationship. So you're going to go and do everything that you can that you believe of that you're in a relationship. I had one victim who was sending pictures of his food to his girlfriend.

Just because again, you're not thinking of it in the case of, okay, this is a victim. You're not trying to think of it as somebody who believes they're in a relationship. So you're going to go and do everything that you can that you believe of that you're in a relationship. I had one victim who was sending pictures of his food to his girlfriend.

Yep. So sometimes that is a red flag. However, some scammers have figured ways around that. I know in the concept of like deep fakes and AI, and I know it's a whole buzzword right now, but some scammers are using that technology in order to generate video content. messages back and forth.

Yep. So sometimes that is a red flag. However, some scammers have figured ways around that. I know in the concept of like deep fakes and AI, and I know it's a whole buzzword right now, but some scammers are using that technology in order to generate video content. messages back and forth.

The other thing too, some of them will also use online video without audio and they'll just be kind of like moving in the camera like, oh, my microphone's not working. Or they'll go and share and have a phone call with them and they won't share video and just say, hey, this part here, my video isn't working.

The other thing too, some of them will also use online video without audio and they'll just be kind of like moving in the camera like, oh, my microphone's not working. Or they'll go and share and have a phone call with them and they won't share video and just say, hey, this part here, my video isn't working.