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Ronnie Tokazowski

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Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

So they may be working with IC3, it may be working with colleagues who also work with romance scams, or it may be helping introduce them over to some of the crypto assets where they can start pulling some of that money back. The third thing I do is, again, just trying to help put them in contact with the right people.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

So they may be working with IC3, it may be working with colleagues who also work with romance scams, or it may be helping introduce them over to some of the crypto assets where they can start pulling some of that money back. The third thing I do is, again, just trying to help put them in contact with the right people.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Because what happens is, when you're in this scam, your head's spinning 1,000 miles an hour. You don't know which way is up. You don't know which way is down. You don't know who to trust. And many of us work behind the scenes to try and help be that good driving force for many of these victims. And when we go and we try and help them out, that's where we do our assistance.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Because what happens is, when you're in this scam, your head's spinning 1,000 miles an hour. You don't know which way is up. You don't know which way is down. You don't know who to trust. And many of us work behind the scenes to try and help be that good driving force for many of these victims. And when we go and we try and help them out, that's where we do our assistance.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

In addition to that, we've also been running a... mailing list for the last seven years, talking on many things as a result of business email compromise and overlapping things with that.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

In addition to that, we've also been running a... mailing list for the last seven years, talking on many things as a result of business email compromise and overlapping things with that.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

And we have close contacts with a lot of the banks and financial institutions to help either try and reverse some of that money or do what we can to get some of that money back or try and flag those assets where we know, hey, these are actually part of a scam.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

And we have close contacts with a lot of the banks and financial institutions to help either try and reverse some of that money or do what we can to get some of that money back or try and flag those assets where we know, hey, these are actually part of a scam.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

I really wish I could say that that was the upper limits, but I have seen so much more. I'm working with one victim now. I've been working with him for the last two weeks where he was suicidal and didn't know which way to turn. Jeez, you really take some heavy phone calls.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

I really wish I could say that that was the upper limits, but I have seen so much more. I'm working with one victim now. I've been working with him for the last two weeks where he was suicidal and didn't know which way to turn. Jeez, you really take some heavy phone calls.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

So very much the same way as the first person. He found a relationship. And as the relationship built, they're like, hey, I have this great investment opportunity. They strung him along as far as they could. And once he went and put some of the money in, he saw his returns. It was the same story. this individual actually was ready to retire. He had several homes as well.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

So very much the same way as the first person. He found a relationship. And as the relationship built, they're like, hey, I have this great investment opportunity. They strung him along as far as they could. And once he went and put some of the money in, he saw his returns. It was the same story. this individual actually was ready to retire. He had several homes as well.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

So because of that, he ended up opening and doing a second mortgage on a couple of his homes in order to pull some money out. So because of that, and because of what he was able to pull out on those homes, he may now be facing losing those homes as well. And as it stands right now, he has lost over $1.7 million. Dang. I mean, I've...

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

So because of that, he ended up opening and doing a second mortgage on a couple of his homes in order to pull some money out. So because of that, and because of what he was able to pull out on those homes, he may now be facing losing those homes as well. And as it stands right now, he has lost over $1.7 million. Dang. I mean, I've...

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

It's awful. I was at an RSA last year, or this year as a matter of fact, got to speaking with somebody who had a, it was a grandfather who had committed suicide and they didn't know why. And they ended up going to look through his records and it was over $5 million that he had lost.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

It's awful. I was at an RSA last year, or this year as a matter of fact, got to speaking with somebody who had a, it was a grandfather who had committed suicide and they didn't know why. And they ended up going to look through his records and it was over $5 million that he had lost.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Whoever is behind this is just ruthless. I wish that was an isolated case, but I've also had another victim out at DEF CON a couple years ago. And for her, she ended up losing her house, losing custody of her kids, lost her relationship with her husband, and... lost her business and she was into over a tune for a million dollars.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

Whoever is behind this is just ruthless. I wish that was an isolated case, but I've also had another victim out at DEF CON a couple years ago. And for her, she ended up losing her house, losing custody of her kids, lost her relationship with her husband, and... lost her business and she was into over a tune for a million dollars.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

And when I asked her what kept her in, she said her husband was abusive and she just wanted to feel loved. And that's the reality of many of these crimes is that people don't realize that you have two factors at play here. You have the financial losses and then you have the emotional hurt that goes along with it. And somebody may lose... $90,000, it may mean nothing to them.

Darknet Diaries
141: The Pig Butcher

And when I asked her what kept her in, she said her husband was abusive and she just wanted to feel loved. And that's the reality of many of these crimes is that people don't realize that you have two factors at play here. You have the financial losses and then you have the emotional hurt that goes along with it. And somebody may lose... $90,000, it may mean nothing to them.