Ronnie Tokazowski

Being in the field, he knew a good bit of crypto. He's naturally a very skeptical person. So he did his research on a lot of the way that they present the money. So he went, they provided links and information for him to check once he went and submitted his money.

Being in the field, he knew a good bit of crypto. He's naturally a very skeptical person. So he did his research on a lot of the way that they present the money. So he went, they provided links and information for him to check once he went and submitted his money.

And the way that the application was presented to him was, and this is his perspective, I'm still trying to get the full scope here, but there was actually a browser that they could use within crypto.com that will have it show up that actually looks like the application. And looking at some of the screenshots, it looks like it was right within the crypto.com application.

And the way that the application was presented to him was, and this is his perspective, I'm still trying to get the full scope here, but there was actually a browser that they could use within crypto.com that will have it show up that actually looks like the application. And looking at some of the screenshots, it looks like it was right within the crypto.com application.

And because of that, when your user goes and clicks that stuff, it appears to be 100% legitimate.

And because of that, when your user goes and clicks that stuff, it appears to be 100% legitimate.

In addition to putting his own money in there, because of the high returns that were being shown, he also went and had gotten a loan. So he actually used a loan to go and put more money into it because, again, if you can use that loan to go and get more money, who wouldn't do that? So that's another common thing we see with a lot of people is they'll go take loans out from a financial institution.

In addition to putting his own money in there, because of the high returns that were being shown, he also went and had gotten a loan. So he actually used a loan to go and put more money into it because, again, if you can use that loan to go and get more money, who wouldn't do that? So that's another common thing we see with a lot of people is they'll go take loans out from a financial institution.

They'll take a second mortgage out on their homes in order to go and get more money based on those investments.

They'll take a second mortgage out on their homes in order to go and get more money based on those investments.

And it was very exciting. From there, the scammers were able to successfully collect about $90,000 out of him.

And it was very exciting. From there, the scammers were able to successfully collect about $90,000 out of him.

What he did was he used the exact same emotional manipulation tactics against the scammers. And what he did was he was like, hey, I'm going to go ahead and invest more, but I need to pull this little bit of money out in order to help with this loan. So if you can let me pull some of my money out or wire it over here, I'll go ahead and do that.

What he did was he used the exact same emotional manipulation tactics against the scammers. And what he did was he was like, hey, I'm going to go ahead and invest more, but I need to pull this little bit of money out in order to help with this loan. So if you can let me pull some of my money out or wire it over here, I'll go ahead and do that.

So he was able to get $10,000 of his back by, again, deploying those same tactics against the scammers. And he was able to build up enough trust with them to where he's able to get that money back.

So he was able to get $10,000 of his back by, again, deploying those same tactics against the scammers. And he was able to build up enough trust with them to where he's able to get that money back.

So the way I help them is I help them a couple ways. So the first place is that when it comes to understanding the emotions in our body tied back to a lot of the way the scam works, people feel a lot of shame. They feel a lot of hurt. They feel a lot of disconnect because of the stigmas associated with it. What I mean by that

So the way I help them is I help them a couple ways. So the first place is that when it comes to understanding the emotions in our body tied back to a lot of the way the scam works, people feel a lot of shame. They feel a lot of hurt. They feel a lot of disconnect because of the stigmas associated with it. What I mean by that

is when you're a victim like this, people don't want to come forward on this. So I try and help them learn how to work with their own bodies in that regard. So that's one way that I help them. The second way is I point them to the resources where they can go and submit a live request.

is when you're a victim like this, people don't want to come forward on this. So I try and help them learn how to work with their own bodies in that regard. So that's one way that I help them. The second way is I point them to the resources where they can go and submit a live request.