Noah Labhart
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Code Story
The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
Hello, listeners. Today, we are releasing another episode for Cybersecurity Awareness Month as part of our series, The Haunted House of APIs, sponsored by our friends, Traceable. In this series, we are building awareness around APIs, their security risks, and what you can do about it.
Code Story
The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
Sounds like a really fun job title. And I may have just extracted this from what you said about your YouTube channel and things, but what do you do for fun?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
Okay, I didn't extract that. Tell me about that.
Code Story
The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
Traceable AI is building one platform to secure every API so you can discover, protect, and test all your APIs with contextual security, enabling organizations to minimize risk and maximize the value APIs bring to their customers. Our episode today is titled The Dark Corners of APIs, Uncovering Unknown APIs Lurking in the Shadows, where we speak with Katie Paxton-Fear.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
That's amazing. I have to say kudos on your pursuit of analog activities. They are so important to have a balanced approach there. You spend most of your day in the digital world. So kudos on that.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
No doubt. No doubt. Couldn't agree with that more. Well, let's dive into it then. So let's start uncovering some unknown APIs. Before we even go further, can you explain, you know, as we say that, what do we mean when we say unknown APIs? And, you know, there's obviously some different types there, right? Like some words you use like shadow, rogue, zombie, and undocumented APIs.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
That all makes sense. So why do these APIs often go unnoticed? And I'm just curious, why do they often go unnoticed and how do they become a security risk?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
APIs are the gateway to your digital infrastructure, but hidden deep in the recesses of your system are unknown APIs. Shadow, rogue, zombie, and undocumented, each of these present a unique threat to your organization and can be exploited by hackers.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
So a lot of autonomy for a developer. You put an API out there, you check it four years later, it's still there, right? To your example. So they're lurking in the shadows because they're sort of done and then maybe kind of forgotten. But what makes these APIs such an attractive target for attackers? And maybe even can you share an example of how one of these APIs has been exploited?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
Katie is an API hacker and researcher, and today she will take us on a journey through the API graveyard, sharing best practices for ensuring that they don't become your company's next security nightmare. Katie, thank you for being on the show today.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
That's very well described. You have illustrated, you know, the issue, these APIs, you know, to our title, lurking in the shadows that are unknown, but are just tantalizing to hackers. How can organizations begin to uncover these, you know, hidden APIs, these lurking APIs? And, you know, do you have any tools or strategies that you feel are effective in doing this?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
I totally hear what you're saying there. These are great starting points. But if something's lurking in the shadows, it's going to be hard to find them all. And you need a plan of how to respond to that. And maybe that's part of what your answer will be in this next question. But I'm curious, in your experience, you're the guru, right? You know this world. You live this world every day.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
What are some of the common mistakes that companies, organizations make to, you know, lead to these unknown APIs being created or overlooked? Like, how do they how do they get there in the first place? And maybe it's a little little bit of what, you know, you described in your four years ago example. But I'm curious, what are the common ones?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
Before we jump into our topic today, which is the dark corners of APIs, uncovering unknown APIs lurking in the shadows. Super ominous. It gives me chills talking about it. Tell me a little bit about yourself. Tell me in my audience a little bit about you.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
Okay, this has been a great conversation. I really appreciate you being on the show. It's very clear that these unknown APIs lurking in the shadows are a problem and are a tantalizing target for hackers. And you've illustrated some great ways to start to be proactive, but also to understand that if there's some lurking in the shadows, you're going to also have to have a reactive incident plan.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
And tools like Traceable are out there solving this problem for those proactive solutions. I really appreciate you being on the show today.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Dark Corners of APIs with Katie Paxton-Fear
And this concludes the Dark Corners of APIs, uncovering unknown APIs lurking in the shadows with Katie Paxton-Fear. Stay tuned for more episodes in our series, The Haunted House of APIs. And if you'd like to learn more about Traceable, go to traceable.ai. That's traceable.ai. And thanks again for listening.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Hello. Welcome to the data analytics club. Do you know the password? No, I didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? No. Do you know how to query data? Like ask a question? I guess not. Hmm. I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk. With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner. The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
For over 20 years, CatchFly has held a track record for high performing, ultra reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. Okay, let's flip to scalability. And this will be this will be interesting. You have a lot of experience with with big companies, you know, like Uber.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
And I'm curious, did you build this to scale efficiently from day one or scale in mind, obviously abstractions and things or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
So this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Cortex, the product, of course, but also for your team.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Anishtar grew up in the Bay Area, but now is located in New York. He felt lucky to be surrounded by technology, being in the Bay Area and having his dad as a software engineer. His earliest exposure to tech was hacking his Wii, and at that point he was hooked. He eventually joined Uber and experienced many of the problems he is solving today.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Let's switch to you, Anish. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Last question, Anish. So you're getting on a plane and sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
That's fantastic advice. Well, Anish, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Cortex. Thank you so much for having me. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
But outside of tech, he enjoys tennis and playing piano. He loves making music and attending shows to hear other artists, in particular EDM. While he was at Uber, Anish noticed that the company was a prime example of microservices gone wrong. Developers were going outside of standards, building services, not documenting them properly.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
He realized that every company he talked to had the same problem of service cataloging, and he felt confident to take the challenge on and apply to YC. This is the creation story of Cortex.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Stay in that era for a minute. You know, with any MVP, you got to build things with certain trade-offs in mind. You got to make certain decisions and trade-offs, right? You kind of touched it in a high level.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Maybe dig into one or two of around, you know, feature cut or approach or technical debt acceptance or, you know, building that MVP to just prove that the model is going to work, prove that the problem is there to solve. Tell me a little bit more about those decisions and trade-offs. And I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where KiteWorks comes in. KiteWorks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today. It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017.
Code Story
S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Through FedRAMP, KiteWorks level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. KiteWorks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and email. administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure?
Code Story
S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in.
Code Story
S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, Catchfly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
Code Story
S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5-terabyte CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right, free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. You've made those decisions. You've got the MVP. You're getting some traction. Tell me about how you progressed and matured the product from there.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Lapart. And today, how Anishtar has built the best internal developer portal, eliminating developer tax and paving paths to production. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
And, you know, to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm curious about is how you built your roadmap and how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Cortex.
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S9 E34: Anish Dhar, Cortex
I hear you talking about we and us. Tell me about how you built your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Code Story
Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Mark joined the board of MongoDB in 2019. What got him excited about the company was the world-changing nature of the product, so much so that he asked to step off the board to be CTO and carry the banner to the developer community about the power of their doc-based distributed system performing database transactions. This is Mark's story with MongoDB.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Let me flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Well, Mark, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person you look up to and why.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Well, we talked about a mistake earlier, but maybe a little bit different spin on the question. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
That's an awesome answer. And I really like the part at the very end that makes a ton of sense. You're taking different directions all the time because your leaders are listening to your people.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Well, Mark, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice would you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Fantastic advice. Well, Mark, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling your creation story and start at MongoDB.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Same here. And this concludes another chapter of Coat Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. Support the show on patreon.com slash codestory for just five to ten bucks a month. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Tell me about what would be your MVP, Mark. So when you joined Mongo, what was the MVP or what was the product you took on, the state of the company? Tell me a little bit about that.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
So as you're getting that message out to the world and as you're carrying the banner, I hear that you stepped off the board to be CTO. You're super excited about Mongo. In that process and in the process of advancing Mongo, you gotta make certain decisions and trade-offs about what you can do in the short term versus what you have to cut right then.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
So tell me about some of those things in terms of your involvement with Mongo and how you coped with those decisions.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
So from the point of starting and then progressing the product and your mission, how have you gone about that? I think what would be the most interesting thing in that is how you built your roadmap or approach or how you decided this is the next most important thing to address to enable developers to make those decisions.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
This is CodeStory, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share in the critical moments of what it takes to change an industry and build and lead a team that has your back. I'm your host, Noah Laphart, and today how Mark Porter stepped off the board and into the role as CTO and continued to build faster with MongoDB. All this and more on CodeStory.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Well, speaking of that team, tell me about your team and how you went about building it. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
It makes a ton of sense. And that speedy consensus, makes also a ton of sense almost like the the speed of there's a little bit of alignment with speed of trust but i haven't heard exactly put that way that's really that's really interesting
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Mark Porter has always been fascinated with puzzles, so tech just fit and has been a great journey for him. He got his first 4K computer in middle school and then moved into doing programming for the Department of Education. His big learning from this was that you can use tech to do social good. He's married with five kids, and as he puts it, they put up with his deep tech obsession.
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
So it's interesting segue. Actually, it's a perfect segue. How you approached Mongo when you started and you set out to enable developers, you know, tell me about how you think about scalability or how the company thinks about scalability or how the approach to what you did. But was it built to scale or was it executed on scale efficiently from day one?
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Or have you been fighting this and changing as you gain traction?
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Replay: Mark Porter, MongoDB
Well, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
Obviously to do something of this caliber, you have to have the right team in place. And I'm curious about how you have gone about and how you're going about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
Hello. Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
Code Story
S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly.
Code Story
S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by Cashfly.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
Code Story
S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
Code Story
S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. So this will be super fun. Given, you know, your experience and building all kinds of great stuff, building Chef and what you're diving into with System Initiative, I'm curious about scalability.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
And, you know, I'm sure that everything was built to scale from day one and with scale in mind, all those sorts of things. But I'm curious if there's any pinch points that were really hard or interesting around scale that you had to fight through.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Adam Jacob grew up in Vancouver, but now lives north of San Francisco. He's married with a teenage daughter and grew up in the era of the internet that was bulletin-based.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with System Initiative, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
This will be fun to ask. What does the future look like for System Initiative, for the product and for your team?
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
He likes music, specifically heavy metal. He was raised on 80s hair metal, but also enjoys modern and Swedish metal, of which your host is very familiar. He also loves cats and at one point had a bangle, which is a cross between a tiger and a domestic cat.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
OK, Adam, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
Previously, Adam was a key contributor at Chef and has spent many years building a successful platform, extending DevOps value with automated security and compliance.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
Okay, you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
He and his now co-founder reached the limits of what could be achieved using conventional approaches in the space and decided to build a new tool to enable engineers to tackle complex infra and app management without compromising control. This is the creation story of System Initiative.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
That's fantastic advice. Well, Adam, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of System Initiative.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
the way that people who build video games think about stuff like unreal right so it's more like an engine that sits on top of all the data and then we use that data to then drive change into the world tell me about the mvp this will be interesting to hear where you start in this how long did it take to build what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life you know that first version right of system initiative
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who built the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. The stories you don't read in the headlines. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Labpart.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
In making some of those decisions and how you went about building it and then rebuilding it, you know, a few times, tell me about maybe a hard trade-off you had to make, you know, and how you coped with the decision. You know, it could have been around approach, positioning, you know, acceptance of any sort of debt maybe or anything like that.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
But tell me about some of those you had to work through.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where KiteWorks comes in. KiteWorks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
Code Story
S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, KiteWorks level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. KiteWorks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and email.
Code Story
S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
Code Story
S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
Code Story
S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. You're at the point now where you're bringing people onto the platform... How are you planning to progress and mature it? I think the best backbone for that question is around roadmap.
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
How do you go about deciding what's the next most important thing to build or to address with system initiative?
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S9 E30: Adam Jacob, System Initiative
And today, how Adam Jacob is building a collaborative power tool for DevOps to remove the paper cuts and automate intelligently. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk. With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
Okay. Tell me about a mistake you made with SnapTrade and how you and your team responded to it.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Labhart. And today, how Brendan Wood focused in on the pain of broker integrations. and built the platform to connect them all. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
Let's switch to you, Brendan, and then maybe this is the same answer that you had on our prior recording. Tell me about who influences the way that you work.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
Okay. Well, Brendan, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. Jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit multiple times in different manners?
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
And I'm curious if it'll be the same that you mentioned in the last podcast or it'll be something new.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
For sure. That's fantastic advice. Well, Brendan, thanks for coming back on the show and telling the creation story of SnapTrade. It's great to hear all the updates and the new product. Excited to root you on from the CodeStory sidelines.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
In August of 2021, we interviewed Brendan Wood on the podcast to tell the creation story of Passive. After the recording, the company decided to pivot into a new market, focusing on solving their biggest pain point for other platforms. They were running into the problems surrounding integrations into brokers. In fact, they were spending 80% of engineering time on integrations.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
People started to reach out to his team to ask if they could use the integrations. And they started ideating about making this its own product. This is the creation story of Snap Trade.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
So tell me what you would consider the MVP for SnapTrade. Tell me about that first version of SnapTrade, how long it took to build or to, you know, to bring it to life and what sort of tools you're using.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So you've got the MVP now. It's working. You're getting those early folks on it and you're getting some traction. How have you progressed it from that point and matured it? I'm curious about, you know, just the same with passive. How did you build your roadmap?
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
How did you go about deciding this is the next most important thing or integration or enhancement to add to SnapTrade?
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
Tell me about team. So is this the same team from passive? Have you had to expand the team? Tell me a little bit more about how have you gone about that process of ensuring you've got the right team in place?
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries, who share what it takes to change an industry, who build the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
This message is sponsored by SnapTrade. Link end-user brokerage accounts and build world-class investing experiences with SnapTrade's unified brokerage API. With over $12 billion in connected assets and over 300,000 connected accounts, SnapTrade's API quality and developer experience are second to none. SnapTrade is SOC 2 certified and uses industry-leading security practices.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf. If slow QA processes bottleneck your software engineering team and you're releasing slower because of it, you need a solution. You need QA Wolf.
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Tell me about scalability, right? This will be interesting. So you're building the integrations into passive and then you take and pivot and use that as your product. How are you approaching scalability for SnapTrade? And has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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S10 E4: Brendan Wood, SnapTrade
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony with SnapTrade and look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5 terabyte CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right, free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. I'm curious about scalability. Was this built to scale from day one or with scale in mind? Or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
So as you step out on the balcony, in particular, or when it comes to Witness AI, when you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk. With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner. The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit, Rick. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Tell me what the future looks like for Witness AI, the product and for your team. I know it's early days. So what is the vision? Cast it out there.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Let's switch to you, Rick. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Rick, last question. So you're getting on a plane, and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it, but can't wait to show it off to the world, and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person, having gone down this road a bit many, many times?
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Rick Katja was born and raised in Silicon Valley and just stayed. He's married with two teenage daughters, one about to go to college. Between him and his wife, they have worked in 13 different startups. So you could say they have a startup family through and through.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
That's fantastic advice. Well, Rick, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Witness AI. Thanks, Noah. It's a pleasure to be here. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Outside of tech, he's a cyclist in the bike club and enjoys spending time with his family. After speaking with a number of security officers at companies, Rick realized the enterprise situation with AI. Most companies are stuck trying to figure out how to enable their employees to use new tooling while still maintaining the level of security and control they have over data.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Rick was asked to join a founding team to solve this problem. This is the creation story of Witness AI.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Let's dive into the MVP. So tell me about that first version of Witness AI. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. Let's dive into maybe a decision or trade-off you had to make in building that first version, right? It could be around approach, feature cut or limitation, technical debt acceptance, all those things, right? Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with those decisions.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
This episode is sponsored by Kiteworks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where Kiteworks comes in. Kiteworks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Okay, so then you've got your MVP, it's working, you're getting some traction. Tell me about how you have progressed and matured the product.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
I know it's early, but there's still a process that you have to go through in figuring out, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Witness AI, you know, around roadmap and things like that. So tell me about how you go about it.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
I'm curious about team, right? You know this intimately after going through so many startups in your career, how important team is, right? So how did you build that team and what are you looking for in those people to indicate they're the winning horses to join you?
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Laphart, and today, how Rick Katcha is enabling safe and effective AI through security and governance for the enterprise. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
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S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
Code Story
S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
Code Story
S9 E33: Rick Caccia, WitnessAI
For over 20 years, Catchfly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
Egil Ursus is based out of Norway, which obviously means he loves skiing. But outside of this, he loves to run outdoors through the woods and on the streets. He's not at a full marathon yet, but dreams of doing the New York Marathon someday. He's a family man married with two boys, none of which like to run with him, but they all enjoy being active and hiking.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
Okay, this will be fun to ask. What's the future look like for the product and for your team?
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
Well, let's switch to you, Igor. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
In a past role, Egel's co-founder and brother, FYI, was looking for a tool that would help him release code into the wild in a rapid yet safe manner. He couldn't find anything to meet his high standards, so he built his own. When the open source version started to get a lot of attention, Egel joined his brother to bring the solution to the enterprise. This is the creation story of Unleash.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
We talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Where would you consider taking a different approach? And I heard part of your answer, you're like, if I could go back, I would do that differently. But perhaps this one is something that maybe worked, but you'd tweak it a little bit.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
Okay, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
That's great advice. Miguel, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Unleash.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
And this concludes another chapter of Code Stories. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
Okay, let's dive into the MVP then. So the first product you built. You've had lots of conversations, and then you went about building the first product. product. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
So during that time, and maybe a little bit in that year, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around feature cut, tech debt, things like that that you're building. Tell me about some of those decisions that you had to make and how you coped with those decisions.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting. Who share what it takes to change an industry.
Code Story
Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
Keeping scalability top of mind. The stories you don't read in the headlines. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Lapart, and today I'll help Egil Ursus create the open source solution to enable your team to ship code to production safely and at incredible speed.
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
Let's switch to team then. So tell me about how you built your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
Let's flip to scalability. And this will be interesting, you know, given the product that you're building and how you've gone about it in the story so far, tell me about scalability and how you approached it from the beginning. Was it built with scale in mind from day one, or did you fight this as you grew and gained traction?
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Replay: Egil Østhus, Unleash
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. Let's talk about scalability.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
So your critical infrastructure, right? You're integrated into the thick of things. So I assume that scalability is important to a growing business, period. But I assume it was important to you in the beginning. But I'm curious, was it built to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind? Or are there areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
So UK, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
This will be fun. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Ume Makan, also known as U.K., grew up in San Diego but now lives in the Bay Area.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
UK, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. What advice would you give that person having gone down this road a bit? Like they're on the plane. They're excited. They can't wait to show you the product right there. What are you going to tell them?
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
That's fantastic advice. Well, UK, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Opal security.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
And this concludes another chapter of code story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
A fun fact about her, she was homeschooled until college, and growing up, she loved puzzles and math. She planned to be a math professor until she eventually got into startups in tech. She's a curious person with many hobbies and interests. In fact, she loves to cook and was a chef at Michelin star restaurants. She also likes to garden, growing food and also interesting plants.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
In the past, UK found herself drawn towards real world problems in real time. What she found herself noticing was that access management was incredibly messy and that people weren't willing to look behind the curtain to fix the problem. After she noticed that this problem kept surfacing, she then decided to solve it. This is the creation story of Opal Security.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
Let's dive into the MVP or what you would consider the MVP. Maybe it's when you're building internally or maybe it's after. Tell me about that and how you put it together, what sort of tools you're using and how long it took you to build.
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. The stories you don't read in the headlines. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Codestory. I'm your host, Noah Labpart.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
OK, so with any MVP, right, you got to make certain decisions and tradeoffs. OK, when you're when you're building a product, when you are making choices about the features you're going to lean into first and how you're going to go about it. So wrap that into technical debt or feature cut or approach and those things. And they're hard to work through.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
Tell me about some of those decisions you had to make and how you coped with them.
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, Catchfly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where Kiteworks comes in. Kiteworks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
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S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, Kiteworks' level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. Kiteworks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and e-mails.
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. Let's take that point then.
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
You've got the MVP and it's built, right? Let's move forward. Let's progress forward with the product and the company. How did you mature it from that point and progress it? And I'm curious about, you know, roadmap, right? I'm curious about how you built your roadmap and what sort of criteria you're using to figure out, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Opal.
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
You know, you said you said we a few times. I'm curious about team. Right. How do you go about building your team? How did you and how do you and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're they're the right people, the right horses to join you?
Code Story
S9 E29: Umaimah Khan , Opal Security
And today, how Ume Makan decided to go out on her own and help organizations reduce access sprawl and enforce better security. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk. With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
This episode is sponsored by P0 Security. Cloud governance is a problem facing many organizations. With P0's universal access governance platform, your security team can identify access risks and automate the user access lifecycle, all without interrupting developer productivity or disrupting production operations. Visit p0.dev to learn more and secure access for all identities, human and machine.
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Kevin Hurley is building open payments for the Internet. Enterprise-grade, secure, and on the Lightning Network. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This will be interesting. My next question around scalability, you know, given my understanding of crypto and I think my audience's understanding of crypto.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
So I'm just going to I'm going to ask it kind of blindly and just hear what you have to say. Was this built to scale from from day one or is there are there areas where you've had to fight this as you've grown?
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with LightSpark. What are you most proud of?
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
This will be fun to ask and, you know, anything about the Coinbase integration and choice there and just your clear passion for the space. Tell me what the future looks like for LightSpark, the product, and for your team.
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Let's switch to you, Kevin. Tell me who influences the way that you work. Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Last question, Kevin. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
That's fantastic advice. Well, Kevin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of LightSpark. Thank you. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Kevin Hurley grew up in a multi-kid house, which is where he got his competitive nature. He used to play two-on-two with his dad and siblings at home. He went to school for electrical engineering and, funny enough, interviewed for a computer science job by accident, effectively stumbling into the trade.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Outside of tech, he spends his free time with his fiancée, planning for the wedding and visiting Manhattan Beach for a good walk. Kevin was part of the team that attempted to launch crypto at Facebook. Although that didn't work out, they realized that the backbone of the system needed to be built on something more common and something that was lightning fast.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Tell me about the MVP. And this will be interesting for that first version of LightSpark that you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
In building that MVP, and you touched on some of these in a high level, but I'm curious about decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that first version, right? And maybe it was something you learned, or maybe it was some hard decision you had to make as far as how you were going to approach it, what you were going to prove, all those sorts of things.
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Maybe dive in a little more to some of those decisions and trade-offs and how you coped with them.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Whether you're growing the user adoption of your public API or streamlining internal development, SDKs can turn the chore of API integration into effortless implementation. Unburden your API users from guessing their way around your API while keeping your team focused on your product. Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers.
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate up-to-date, robust, idiomatic SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in just a matter of minutes. SDKs are feature-rich with type safety, auto-retries, and pagination. Everything you need to give your API the developer experience it deserves. Deliver a premium API experience without the premium price tag.
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. You've got the MVP. It's working. You're ready to move forward. Tell me about how you progress the product and mature it.
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S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap and how did you go about and how do you still go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with LightSpark.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my dude.
Code Story
S10 E3: Kevin Hurley, Lightspark
So I'm curious, you said we a few times, and I'm curious about how you went about building your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. So this will be interesting given there's two sides to Formidium. I'm curious about scalability and I'm just going to ask it sort of plainly and let you take it away.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
Was Formidium built to scale from day one, either from a product perspective or from a services perspective? Or have there been areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner. The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
As you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you have built with Formidium. What are you most proud of?
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story.
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
So this will be super fun to hear the passion in your voice, the excitement. What does the future look like for Formidium, the product side, the service side, and for your whole team?
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
Shaolin Madan immigrated to the U.S. when he was six years old. He spent 20 years in the financial markets, of which he got into when he was a teenager. His first and best memory of the industry is when Netscape IPO'd and the stock went up 300% in the first day. Outside of finance and tech, he enjoys cooking, frequents the gym, and loves to travel.
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
OK, I want to switch to you, Sheldon. Tell me who influences the way that you work. Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
Last question, Shalen. So you're getting on a plane. And you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sheldon, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Formidium.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
He's also a learner, studying philosophy, relationships, and of course, the macro economy. Shallon found himself frustrated with working for others, which drove him into entrepreneurship. When he came across his current venture as a client, he invested in the firm, became part of it, and eventually became the last co-founder in a company administrating funds with cutting-edge technology.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
Let's dive into what you would consider either the company's MVP or your MVP at the company, right? So that first version of either the product or the product as you knew it when you came in and became that co-founder. Tell me about what sort of tools you were using to bring it to life and how long it took you to conceive it.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting. Nothing on the back end. Who share what it takes to change an industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve. Most proud of our team.
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
You kind of dove into a couple here, but I want to maybe settle into a decision or trade-off you had to make in the early days in building for Medium. It could be around approach, and I think you mentioned some of the things there. It could be around acceptance and where you start. Tell me, dive in a little bit more into maybe decisions, trade-offs you had to make.
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
And specifically, I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
This episode is sponsored by Cashfly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CatchFly has held a track record for high performing, ultra reliable content delivery.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where KiteWorks comes in. KiteWorks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, KiteWorks level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. KiteWorks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and emails.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
Administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. let's move forward, right?
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
You've got, you've got the product as an entrepreneur. You've, you've got it. You, you see the vision moving forward. You've got a little bit of traction. Maybe tell me about how you progress the product and matured it. And I think to wrap it in a box a little bit, you know, and I know there's, there's two sides here. There's technology and services.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
I'm curious about roadmap and how those things sort of interplay there in the roadmap and how you go about deciding, okay, this is the main, Next most important thing to build or to address with Formidio.
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
i think that has been vitally important in terms of accelerating our goals around automation so so i hear you talking about we and and how we do these things tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you so we have a a fairly distributed team globally
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Laphart. And today, how Shaolin Madan is building premier fund management by delivering services through superior technology. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk.
Code Story
S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
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S9 E32: Shalin Madan, Formidium
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by Cashfly.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
With over $12 billion in connected assets and over 300,000 connected accounts, SnapTrade's API quality and developer experience are second to none. SnapTrade is SOC 2 certified and uses industry-leading security practices. Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf. If slow QA processes bottleneck your software engineering team and you're releasing slower because of it, you need a solution. You need QA Wolf.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Grow your API user adoption and improve engineering velocity with friction-free integration experiences. With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in minutes. Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory and generate your first SDK for free. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
QA Wolf gets engineering teams to 80% automated end-to-end test coverage and helps them ship five times faster by reducing QA cycles from hours to minutes. With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Drada, Autotrader, and many more, you're in good hands. Ready to ship faster with fewer bugs?
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S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Okay, let's flip to scalability then. So was this built to scale from day one or with scale in mind? Or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Checkmate, what are you most proud of?
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
QA Wolf gets engineering teams to 80% automated end-to-end test coverage and helps them ship five times faster by reducing QA cycles from hours to minutes. With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Grotta, and Autotrader, you're in good hands. Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com. Vishal Agarwal was born in India and did his schooling in Darjeeling.
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S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Okay, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, for where you're going and for your team.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
He noted that this city exports some of the best tea in the world. Prior to his current venture, he was the chief marketing officer for Choi. Outside of tech, he's an avid tennis lover and follows cricket and basketball closely, though he admits now that he has a two and a half year old child, his time is mostly dedicated to him.
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S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Let's switch to you, Vishal. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
In attempting to solve the problem of splitting the check, Vishal discovered that restaurants had a real problem with having multiple tablets for the many order and delivery services, like Grubhub, DoorDash, etc. When he saw this problem proliferate, he validated that people were willing to pay for a solution. This is the creation story of Checkmate.
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S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Vishal, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
I think that's great advice. Well, Vishal, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Checkmate.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Let's dive into the MVP for Checkmate. So that first version of the product that your CTO built. How long did it take to build? Which you mentioned, but tell me a little bit more there. And what sort of tools were used to bring it to life?
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Let's stay on that MVP for just a minute. When building any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs. Maybe it's around feature cut, technology. You mentioned the technologies you chose, but why you chose technology or approach or acceptance of technical debt, things like that. Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with the decisions.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries, who share what it takes to change an industry, who build the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy. Whether you're growing the user adoption of your public API or streamlining internal development, SDKs can turn the chore of API integration into effortless implementation. Unburden your API users from guessing their way around your API while keeping your team focused on your product.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers. With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate up-to-date, robust, idiomatic SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in just a matter of minutes. SDKs are feature-rich with type safety, auto retries, and pagination.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Everything you need to give your API the developer experience it deserves. Deliver a premium API experience without the premium price tag. Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. This message is sponsored by SnapTrade. Link end-user brokerage accounts and build world-class investing experiences with SnapTrade's unified brokerage API.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
With over $12 billion in connected assets and over 300,000 connected accounts, SnapTrade's API quality and developer experience are second to none. SnapTrade is SOC 2 certified and uses industry-leading security practices. Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. So then you've got the MVP, you've got it working, you've solved some of those problems, you're pushing forward. Tell me about how you matured and progressed the product from there. And I think to wrap that in a box, what I'm looking for is how you go about building your roadmap.
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
And how do you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Checkmate?
Code Story
S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Laupart. And today, how Vishal Agarwal is enabling powerful ordering for busy restaurants so you can scale your digital business faster. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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S10 E7: Vishal Agarwal, Checkmate
Okay, so I hear you saying we and talking about the company. Tell me about how you built the team, right? What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
Matt's married with two kids, loves sports, specifically Illinois basketball, and loves to play music and golf. He likes to travel with his wife to see family and make frequent visits to their lake house. In his professional past, Matt held several roles in SaaS companies and startups.
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
Well, let's flip the script a little bit. So tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
Eventually, he met a company that was an artificial intelligence consultancy, which had a POC around skill assessments. They wanted to start up a separate company to support and launch this POC. This is when Matt got involved. This is the creation story of QuantHub.
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
This will be fun to ask. I always love to hear the answer from my guest. What does the future look like for QuantHub, the product, and for your team?
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
Let's switch to you, Matt. Who influences the way that you work? Name a CEO, CTO, architect, really any person that you look up to and why.
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
We talked about a mistake, but a little bit different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do differently? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
Well, last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
I think that's great advice. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of QuantHub.
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. code story is hosted and produced by noah laphart be sure to subscribe on apple podcast spotify or the podcasting app of your choice support the show on patreon.com slash code story for just five to ten bucks a month and when you get a chance leave us a review both things help us out tremendously and thanks again for listening
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
Tell me about the MVP. So tell me about that first product you built. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you and your team use to bring it to life?
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
So with any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs about what you're going to cut in the short term or what you're going to include in the short term and what sort of technical debt you're going to take on or even approach debt. If that's a term, I may have just made that up. But tell me about some of those decisions and trade-offs that you made and how you coped with them.
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
This is Code Story, the podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share in the critical moments of what it takes to change an industry and build and lead a team that has your back. I'm your host, Noah Laphart. And today, how Matt Cowell created a necessary platform to assess data skills and upskill your workforce. All this and more on CodeStory.
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
So from that point, you've got your MVP built. How did you progress it? How did you mature it? And to give kind of context to where I'm going with that question, how did you build your roadmap and decide, okay, now this is the next most important thing to build?
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
Well, let's switch to team. So how did you go about building your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
Matt Cowell didn't start out in tech. In fact, he studied the chemical world heavily in school, getting his bachelor's in chemistry and master's in chemical engineering. So, by trade, he was clearly a chemist. However, when he joined Accenture, he started in with programming and established the SDLC methodology for the company.
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Let's flip to scalability. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one, or were you fighting this as you grow?
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Replay: Matt Cowell, Quanthub
So you're kind of. growing with your growth, right? You're campus recruiting, you're hitting some scale issues, you're fixing them, your campus recruiting, scale issues, fixing them, and you're growing as you need to sort of just in time.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Let's flip to scalability. And this will be interesting. Did you build this to scale efficiently from early days or with scale in mind, things like that? Or have there been interesting areas or stories where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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Okay, so let's flip the script a little bit. William, tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
William, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Basket, for the product and for your team. Future is cool, man.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
William Neil had an interesting childhood in New Zealand, rooted in being an entrepreneur. As a kid, he helped write business plans with his parents or build makery stuff for projects. Living this type of childhood combined with the creativity of music started a lifelong trend of building businesses and products.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
Let's switch to you, William. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
William, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Labhart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
He's always longed for a flexible life to keep him present for his young family and to allow for the option to travel. He loves spending time with his kids on the beach and exploring the country as a family. William and his co-founder met in a coffee shop in London. As they were chatting about prior projects, they figured out there was a lot of overlap in the things they were interested in.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
Eventually, they returned and built some solutions together. And off the back of a prior wish list project, they decided to make an online shopping cart to end all others. This is the creation story of Basket.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
Tell me about that MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who build the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind, All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So then you've got that MVP, you got it to your launch version, you release it and you're getting some traction. Like it worked and you're excited about it. Tell me about how you progress the product from there and matured it.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
And I think to wrap it in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building a roadmap and how do you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Baskin.
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
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S10 E10: William Neill, Basket
Okay, so I'm curious about team. And I heard you mention, you know, your co founder and other folks, and then also shopping some agencies in the early days. And I'm curious if that has changed or evolved. But tell me about team. I'm curious about how you built it. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
Did you build this to scale from day one or with scale in mind, maybe with abstractions and things like that? Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with OutPave, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Okay, this will be fun. What does the future look like for OutPave, the product, and for your team?
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
Okay, let's switch to you, David. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
Well, it'll be interesting to hear your response to this next question, given that of what we just talked about. I'm curious if it's the same or if it's something different. But say you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world.
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
Can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
David Cothran grew up in Dallas, Texas, and attended UTD for undergrad. Post that, he spent 22 years at Texas Instruments, who makes a whole lot more than calculators, serving in numerous roles in IT, the latter being e-commerce. But outside of tech, he's married with two kids and really enjoys spending time with his family, going to Disney, biking, and running.
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
That's fantastic advice. Well, David, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Outpave.
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
In addition to this, he plays Minecraft with his kids and attends gymnastic meets and Boy Scout campouts. David was contacted by his current founder and friend who was going through an intrapreneurship program at SAP. After winning the program but having it be shut down, he asked David if he was available to start a company and create the Concur for small to medium construction businesses.
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
Okay, tell me about the NDP of OutPave. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
And that's where we started as an MVP. So in any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs picking technology and things of that nature typically there can be some things around how you architect it to move quickly or technical debt or feature cut type decisions like that tell me about some of those you had to make in a little more detail on how you coped with those decisions
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
You've got the MVP, it's working, you're getting some traction. How did you progress the product from there and mature it? And I think, you know, to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap? How did you decide the next most important thing to build or to address without Pave?
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
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S9 E28: David Cauthron, Outpave
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Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This will be super interesting. Given who you're serving with your product, I'm curious about scalability, right? Did you build this to scale from day one or with scale in mind?
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Or has there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
Okay, let's move forward then. So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with SEMA, what are you most proud of?
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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This will be super interesting. I can tell the passion you have for the product you've built and for the folks you're serving. I'm curious what the future looks like. So tell me about the future for SEMA, for the product and for your team.
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
Well, Matt, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? I'm a person or many persons or something you look up to and why?
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
Matt Van Italy is the son of a math teacher and a coder, so this explains why he now uses code as data. He's a proud Boy Scout, making it, of course, to Eagle Scout and beyond. After being a management consultant, he found his way to EdTech and fell in love with improving code. But outside of technology, he's married with three amazing kids.
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
Last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and they can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today, and thank you for telling the creation story of SEMA.
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
He likes to run, play Ultimate Frisbee, and has a wicked cool collection of minor league baseball hats. Sitting in a room with the head of sales, Matt noticed that there were systems like Salesforce that were built to assess the state and future opportunity for business. He then thought, where are these systems for the code itself? This is the creation story of SEMA.
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So tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
Let's stay on that first version of the first product. When building any sort of product, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-off, right? And in those eight months, you... You built it and you were doing research and you were trying to figure out, you know, exactly how you wanted to do it.
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And you probably had to make those trade-offs as far as approach or technical debt or how you were going to solve the problem. Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with the decisions.
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months of moonlighting. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines.
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
So you mentioned, you know, multiple MVPs. Tell me about the next MVP then. How did you get there? And then tell me about that inception process there.
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
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Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers. With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate up-to-date, robust, idiomatic SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in just a matter of minutes. SDKs are feature-rich with type safety, auto-retries, and pagination.
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Everything you need to give your API the developer experience it deserves. Deliver a premium API experience without the premium price tag. Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. This message is sponsored by SnapTrade. Link end-user brokerage accounts and build world-class investing experiences with SnapTrade's unified brokerage API.
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. So let's stay on that second MVP then. You've got the MVP done, you're moving faster, you're getting some traction now. Tell me about how you progressed it from that point and matured it.
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap and how did you go about deciding or still go about deciding this is the next most important thing to build or to address with SEMA?
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Codestory. I'm your host, Noah Labpart, and today, how Matt Van Italy built a way to assess your code to improve outcomes for everyone involved.
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
So I hear you talking about we, and you've mentioned values and, and things of that nature. I'm curious about how you built your team. How did you go about deciding, you know, what did you look for in these people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
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S10 E2: Matt Van Itallie, Sema
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
So this will be really interesting to hear. Tell me about what the future looks like for Savvy Security, the product and for your team.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Let's switch to you, Guy. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
We talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Where would you consider taking a different approach? And not to be a mistake, could have been something that even worked well, but maybe you tweak it a little bit.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Guy, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it and they can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Couldn't agree more. That's fantastic advice. Well, Guy, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Savvy Security.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Guy Guzner got his first computer when he was five, a Commodore 64, where he learned to program in BASIC. As a teen, he started getting into the internet, back with dial-up and a modem. He hacked into places where he shouldn't be and eventually got into trouble. But now, he has flipped those skills for good and works to protect systems. Outside of tech, he plays tennis and likes to ski.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Visit pzero.dev to learn more and secure access for all identities, human and machine.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
He also plays guitar, jamming Led Zeppelin and 80s and 90s rock. After selling his past company to Symantec, he stayed on with the corporation to help existing and future companies. What he realized was that people were still misusing their identities. He observed this behavior and decided to take identity to the next level. This is the creation story of Savvy Security.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of Savvy Security. Tell me about, you know, how long it took you to build and what sort of tools you were using to bring it to life.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. So then you've got your MVP, you're ready to, you know, to grow it, to deploy it to the world. How have you matured and progressed the product from there? And I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how do you build your roadmap?
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
How do you go about deciding that, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Savvy Security?
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Now, I'm curious about team, right? Team is important to get something done as fantastic as savvy security, something built and something done. So tell me about how you built that team and what you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. You've kind of already answered this, but I'm going to ask it in a more open-ended way. And maybe you could describe the approach a little bit, but I'm curious around scalability.
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
You built this to scale from day one, but how did you go about doing that? And even in that, were there interesting pinch points where you had to fight it as you grew?
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S10 E6: Guy Guzner, Savvy Security
Given everything you've told me, I'm curious, as you step out of the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Savvy Security in particular, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
For over 20 years, Catchfly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. Okay, let's flip to scalability. Given supply chain is huge, a big market, yes, but also a big market to support from a technological standpoint. I wonder how you approach scale in the beginning.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
So did you build this to scale efficiently from day one? Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you have built, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
This will be fun to hear the passion in your voice and the excitement. Tell me what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
Prince Ghosh was born in Bangalore, India, and moved around a lot during his life, to the US, then to Europe, then back to the US, but he spent his formative years in Princeton, New Jersey. He majored in mechanical and aerospace engineering as he wanted to build planes and engines. Eventually, he fell out of love with building planes and became obsessed with supply chain tech.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work, Brent? Name a person or many persons or something that you look up to and why.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
Outside of technology, he's a tennis player, occasionally playing basketball, and is an avid reader. He's enthusiastic about tech, the economy, and of course, the supply chain. Prior to his current venture, Prince started Workbench while his co-founders created an agency, which was more like an operations company in a box.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
Okay, so last question, Brent. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
When they started working together, they realized there was a large opportunity to combine forces and simplify quality control. This is the creation story of Factored Quality.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
Couldn't agree more. That's fantastic advice. Well, Prince, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Factor Quality. Awesome. Thanks so much for having me. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
So tell me about what would be the MVP for factored quality. So it's really interesting with Workbench and then Doris, what did the MVP look like? How long did it take you to bring to life and what sort of tools were you using?
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who built the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, Mike.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
Let's dive into, you know, decisions and trade-offs, right? And you're talking about the decision for what determines our success, you know, and you kind of touched on it at high level, but dive into making that decision. You know, that comes with trade-offs, that comes with acceptance of starting out limitations or things like that.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
And it's kind of unique given, you know, the combination of the two entities there, but I'm curious about decisions and trade-offs. And I'm really curious about how you coach with those decisions too. Yeah.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
This episode is sponsored by Cashfly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CatchFly has held a track record for high performing, ultra reliable content delivery.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where KiteWorks comes in. KiteWorks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, KiteWorks level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. KiteWorks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and email.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with Kiteworks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with Kiteworks. Visit kiteworks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. Let's move forward then.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
So you have that early version of the product. You figured out what success looks like. You say you're gaining some traction. Tell me about how you progressed and matured the product and the company from there. And to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap?
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
How did you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Factor Quality?
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Prince Ghosh is making quality control simple. and bringing all of your quality operations together. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk.
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S9 E35: Prince Ghosh, Factored Quailty
So I hear you saying we tell me about how you built your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
So I hear you saying we tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
Code Story
S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
Code Story
S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
Code Story
S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
Code Story
S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Okay, this will be super interesting to hear. I'm curious about scalability. I'm sure there's lots of interesting stories, but was this built to scale from day one or with scale in mind?
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Okay, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Axiom, what are you most proud of?
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labhart. And today, how Neil Patel is urging you to stop sampling events, but to cut to the chase and observe them all. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Okay, this will be fun because I want to hear the passion and your voice and your excitement for what you've built. Tell me what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Okay, Neil, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Okay, Neil, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
That's fantastic advice. Well, Neil, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Axiom.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
And this concludes another chapter of Code Stories. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Neil Patel has always been a hacker. Electronics boards, radios, etc. Being interested in how things work, mechanically or digitally. He learned hard work at his father's convenience store while also reading every computer magazine on the rack. He's a pharmacologist by study, but landed in tech because he's passionate about it.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
But outside of tech, he loves architecture and design. He also loves to read, in particular sci-fi, and enjoys eating Gujarati food, which is purely vegetarian food with tons of flavors. Prior to 2020, Neil and his team was attempting to build tooling around understanding event data.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
After a while, they realized that no matter what was done or built on top of an event store, you couldn't realize the value without storing all of the events. So they pivoted and focused on fixing the data store problem first. This is the creation story of Axiom.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Tell me about what you would consider the MVP. And that's going to be interesting because you had to go back down to the data store and now you're going back up to the product side here. And so maybe there's multiple or maybe there's the first one you want to start with. You decide and you take me where you want to go. But I'm curious about MVP. What sort of tools you were using to bring it live?
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Excuse me. What kind of tools you were using to bring it to life and how long it was taking to build it?
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Permit is an end-to-end authorization platform built on top of open source policy engines. It's high performing, gets decisions in less than 10 milliseconds, and uses a hybrid approach where config is in the cloud, but data and decisions are made locally. Not only is it intuitive, it lets you implement fully functional authorization in five minutes, not six months, and in the code base you prefer.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Maybe stick in the second MVP part because I get there was a decision point to go and build the second MVP to focus on the data store to fix the problems there. Tell me about some decisions and tradeoffs you had to make within the second MVP, maybe around like technical debt or approach or things like that and how you cope with those decisions.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
Check out the link in the show notes or go to permit.io to learn more. That's P-E-R-M-I-T dot I-O. Sign up for permit and stop rebuilding off.
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S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where KiteWorks comes in. KiteWorks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
Code Story
S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, KiteWorks level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. KiteWorks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and email.
Code Story
S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
Code Story
S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
Code Story
S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
Code Story
S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. So then you got the second MVP and let's move forward. How did you progress the product from there? How are you maturing?
Code Story
S9 E27: Neil Patel, Axiom
And I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how do you build your roadmap and what sort of criteria are you using to decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Axiom?
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
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Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf. If slow QA processes bottleneck your software engineering team and you're releasing slower because of it, you need a solution. You need QA Wolf.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Grow your API user adoption and improve engineering velocity with friction-free integration experiences. With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in minutes. Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory and generate your first SDK for free. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
QA Wolf gets engineering teams to 80% automated end-to-end test coverage and helps them ship five times faster by reducing QA cycles from hours to minutes. With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Drada, Autotrader, and many more, you're in good hands. Ready to ship faster with fewer bugs?
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S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Let's flip to scalability, and this will be interesting given who you're serving and how opinionated they are. I'm curious about scale. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one, or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown? It's definitely been a challenge.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Okay, Sagar. So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
QA Wolf gets engineering teams to 80% automated end-to-end test coverage and helps them ship five times faster by reducing QA cycles from hours to minutes. With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Grotta, and Autotrader, you're in good hands. Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com. Sagar Bachu was born in Sacramento, but moved to Bangalore after a decade.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Let's flip the script a little bit, Sagar. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Okay, this will be super fun. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, for the Speakeasy product and product suites and for your team.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
He has always been interested in how things work and majored in physics at his university. Towards the end of his studies, he crammed in a ton of computer science classes and fell in love with the craft. He's worked on firmware, enterprise software, and eventually went to LiveRamp, building new experiences for them.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Let's switch to you, Sagar. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Sagar, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
But outside of tech, he loves pickleball, enjoys growing coffee, and loves reading about historical events. In the past, Sagar and his team took on an API initiative to invest in internal API development experience. Through this project, he spent a lot of time thinking about how to make this happen.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sagar, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Speakeasy.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
He immediately saw the need across the industry with the absence of time and money to fill the need. He decided to take it on and start a company. This is the creation story of Speakeasy.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Tell me about the MVP. And this will be interesting to know where you start. Maybe it's a little bit, you know, in when you were spending that time and thought prior to starting Speakeasy or it could be started at the Speakeasy point. You tell me about the MVP, that first version of the product you built, how long it took to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Let's stay on that for a minute. And you're kind of touching on some of these at a high level, but tell me about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to make in those early days with that MVP. And it could be technical debt or feature approach, things like that. Dive into some of those and specifically how you coped with them.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy. Whether you're growing the user adoption of your public API or streamlining internal development, SDKs can turn the chore of API integration into effortless implementation. Unburden your API users from guessing their way around your API while keeping your team focused on your product.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
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S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Everything you need to give your API the developer experience it deserves. Deliver a premium API experience without the premium price tag. Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. This message is sponsored by SnapTrade. Link end-user brokerage accounts and build world-class investing experiences with SnapTrade's unified brokerage API.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
With over $12 billion in connected assets and over 300,000 connected accounts, SnapTrade's API quality and developer experience are second to none. SnapTrade is SOC 2 certified and uses industry-leading security practices. Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. Okay. So you've got the MVP and it's working. You're getting some traction. I'm curious about how you progress the product from there and matured it. I think to wrap that question in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap?
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
How do you, how did you go about building a roadmap and how do you do that today? And what sort of criteria are you using to decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with speakeasy.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Labhart, and today, how Sagar Bhatiu is making crafting API experiences a cinch, where every API is up-to-date, making integration easy. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
Code Story
S10 E1: Sagar Batchu, Speakeasy
So I'm curious about team. How do you go about building your team? How did you go about building your team? And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they are the winning horses to join you?
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
This episode is sponsored by P0 Security. Cloud governance is a problem facing many organizations. With P0's universal access governance platform, your security team can identify access risks and automate the user access lifecycle, all without interrupting developer productivity or disrupting production operations. Visit p0.dev to learn more and secure access for all identities, human and machine.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Tell me about how you went about building your team. Team is absolutely critical to make anything happen that's great in this world, especially something like Minotaur. Tell me about how you built that team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Lappart. And today, how Sebastian Raffaele is enabling you to engineer your own bots. to automate your trades. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
This message is sponsored by SnapTrade. Link end-user brokerage accounts and build world-class investing experiences with SnapTrade's unified brokerage API. With over $12 billion in connected assets and over 300,000 connected accounts, SnapTrade's API quality and developer experience are second to none. SnapTrade is SOC 2 certified and uses industry-leading security practices.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf. If slow QA processes bottleneck your software engineering team and you're releasing slower because of it, you need a solution. You need QA Wolf.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
QA Wolf gets engineering teams to 80% automated end-to-end test coverage and helps them ship five times faster by reducing QA cycles from hours to minutes. With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Drada, Autotrader, and many more, you're in good hands. Ready to ship faster with fewer bugs?
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Let's flip to scalability. And this will be really interesting given what you've built and where you're going, how the technological speed of the product can contribute to the success, right? So tell me about scalability.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Have you had any interesting areas where you've hit a wall and you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Grow your API user adoption and improve engineering velocity with friction-free integration experiences. With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in minutes. Visit speakeasy.com slash code story and generate your first SDK for free. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far with Minotaur, what are you most proud of?
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Let's flip the script a little bit. And you've already admitted to making mistakes. But I'm curious if there is one you want to highlight and how specifically you responded, you and the team responded to it.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
QA Wolf gets engineering teams to 80% automated end-to-end test coverage and helps them ship five times faster by reducing QA cycles from hours to minutes. With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Grotta, and Autotrader, you're in good hands. Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com. Sebastian Raffaele grew up in a small working class family in Australia.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Okay, Sebastian, this will be fun to hear. I'm already hearing the passion in your voice for what you've built. I'm curious what the future holds. Tell me about the future for the product and for your team.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
He had a crazy life growing up in social housing, having to find his way. He found inspiration from his family members who always pushed him to follow his passions. He left high school early and jumped straight away into the workforce. In 2014, he was introduced to crypto and got hooked. But outside of tech and finance, he's always been into the creative spaces, specifically music.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
He likes to spend time with his fiancee, likes trying new foods, and tries to surround himself with high-quality people. Sebastian realized that the manual processes for a trader are overwhelming, along with making it difficult to be consistent. And alongside this, he saw the cycle of manual traders returning the money they made to the market. Sort of like the house always wins in casinos.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
So last question, Sebastian. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. I'm curious what advice you'd give that person having gone down this road a bit.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
And maybe it's similar to what you just said and how Jim inspires you. But I'm curious if there's advice you'd give them.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
And that's my advice for anyone who wants to get started. That's fantastic advice. Couldn't agree more. Well, Sebastian, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Minotaur. Awesome. Thank you so much, Noah. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
He wanted to build something to close the gap for these traders and solve these problems. This is the creation story of Minotaur Trading Systems.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
let's dive into the MVP then. So that first version of the product, tell me how you built it, you know, what sort of tools you were using and how long it took you to bring it to life.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
This message is sponsored by SnapTrade. Link end-user brokerage accounts and build world-class investing experiences with SnapTrade's unified brokerage API. With over $12 billion in connected assets and over 300,000 connected accounts, SnapTrade's API quality and developer experience are second to none. SnapTrade is SOC 2 certified and uses industry-leading security practices.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my dear.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Whether you're growing the user adoption of your public API or streamlining internal development, SDKs can turn the chore of API integration into effortless implementation. Unburden your API users from guessing their way around your API while keeping your team focused on your product. Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate up-to-date, robust, idiomatic SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in just a matter of minutes. SDKs are feature-rich with type safety, auto-retries, and pagination. Everything you need to give your API the developer experience it deserves. Deliver a premium API experience without the premium price tag.
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
Visit speakeasy.com slash code story to get started and generate your first SDK for free. Okay, so you've got the MVP, you've got that first systems that buys and trades, you've linked all the pieces together and it's working. How did you progress it from there and mature it?
Code Story
S10 E5: Sebastian Raffaele, Minotaur Trading Systems
I think maybe early days and now how you built your roadmap and how you went about deciding, okay, this is the most important thing to address or to build with Minotaur.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, I didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
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S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
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Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
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Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Okay, this will be interesting given what you've built. And I'm sure there's interesting stories here. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind? Or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
As you step out on a balcony and you look across all that you've built with Traceable, what are you most proud of?
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Okay, so what's the future look like for the product and for your team?
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Let's switch to you, Sanjay. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Lab Park. And today, Hasanji Negarov built one platform to secure every API through contextual security and the traceable advantage. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice to give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sanjay, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Traceable.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner. The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Sanjay Nagaraj started his journey in India, where he was born and raised. His earliest influences started at home, as his father taught him honesty and integrity, and his mother heavily influenced his growth as an individual.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Though he spends most of his time in tech, any time outside of work is dedicated to time with family, where he gets to see the world through his wife and kids, along with fueling his passion for singing and following his favorite sports team. For Sanjay, one thing that was clear to him was that application builders exposing APIs are responsible for making sure those APIs are secure.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Prior to his current venture, he and his co-founder built AppDynamics, and they saw the growth of APIs firsthand. As such, they also saw that businesses were looking for products to help them understand APIs and protect them in real time. This is the creation story of Traceable.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
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S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Tell me about what you would consider the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Permit is an end-to-end authorization platform built on top of open source policy engines. It's high performing, gets decisions in less than 10 milliseconds, and uses a hybrid approach where config is in the cloud, but data and decisions are made locally. Not only is it intuitive, it lets you implement fully functional authorization in five minutes, not six months, and in the code base you prefer.
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S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory.
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S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where Kiteworks comes in. Kiteworks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
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S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
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S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
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S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
Administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. So then you've got V1. Let's move forward then.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
How did you progress the product from there and mature it? And I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building your roadmap and what sort of criteria you were using to decide the next most important thing to build or to address with Traceable.
Code Story
S9 E26: Sanjay Nagaraj, Traceable AI
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Code Story
S10 Bonus: Adam Pisk, Bruntwork
This episode is sponsored by P0 Security. Cloud governance is a problem facing many organizations. With P0's universal access governance platform, your security team can identify access risks and automate the user access lifecycle, all without interrupting developer productivity or disrupting production operations. Visit p0.dev to learn more and secure access for all identities, human and machine.
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S10 Bonus: Adam Pisk, Bruntwork
This message is sponsored by QA Wolf. If slow QA processes bottleneck your software engineering team and you're releasing slower because of it, you need a solution. You need QA Wolf. QA Wolf gets engineering teams to 80% automated end-to-end test coverage and helps them ship five times faster by reducing QA cycles from hours to minutes.
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And this will be super interesting because there's scalability of the technology you're using internally, right, to enable the operation to run and to enable your team to work better. But there's also scalability of people, which is hard. So I'm curious if there have been interesting areas where you've had to fight scalability as you've grown.
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So as you step out on the balcony, you look at all that you've built with Bruntworks specifically, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script then a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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What does the future look like for Bruntwork, for what you offer and for your team?
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Curious where it's going to go myself. Let's switch to you, Adam. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, Adam, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice to give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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I appreciate that answer. That's fantastic advice. I couldn't agree more. Well, Adam, thank you for being on the show today and thank you for telling the creation story of Bruntwork.
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Thanks very much, Noah. I enjoyed it. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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He couldn't get the engineers he needed and built an offshore engineering team. And once he got that working, he wondered what else he could outsource. Eventually, he offshored operations for a different company and noticed all metrics improved. Again, realizing there's something to this. This is the creation story of Brunt Work.
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Okay, so this will be interesting where you start. I'm curious about what you would consider, you know, the MVP for Brent work, right? So there is not exactly a like digital product or something here.
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Maybe there's some technology involved in places, but the MVP could have been that, you know, when you were outsourcing folks for different companies and improving their operations, or it could have been after wherever you want to take it. But tell me about the MVP, how long did it take to create and bring it to life? And what sort of tools were you using?
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How do you go about deciding the next most important thing to do, to address, to build with Bruntwork?
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So this will be an interesting question because you're finding the best people, but there's also, there's people that are the folks that are being outsourced to, but there's also your team. So I'm curious about both those things. How did you go about building your team and what did you look for in those people that, you know, indicated that they were the winning horses to join you?
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And I think also, interestingly, I'd be curious about how you vet the people that you outsource to. How do you find the best people?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
That all makes sense to me, Richard. And I really appreciate you being on the show and explaining this because the sprawl is real.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
The problem with API sprawl is showing up out in the wild and the big guys and the three-step process you're describing of admitting you have a problem, understanding that problem, and finding the right tool there to really help you with the continuous discovery documentation, automated monitoring, and taking you forward towards the next step is really, really critical.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
So Richard, I appreciate you being on the show today. No, I had a blast. Truly enjoyed it. Thanks for having me. And this concludes The Haunted Web, Navigating API Sprawl and Creepy Crawlers with Richard Byrd. Stay tuned for more episodes in our series, The Haunted House of APIs. And if you'd like to learn more about Traceable, go to traceable.ai. That's traceable.ai.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
And thanks again for listening.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
Well, awesome. Let's dive into our topic today. Again, the title is The Haunted Web, Navigating API Sprawl and Creepy Crawlers. So what is API Sprawl and why is it such a significant security challenge for organizations?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
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So that's a large number of attacks of being exploited by these businesses in the last couple of years. And it makes sense what you're saying about sprawl and how sprawl isn't necessarily a technology problem. It's an operations problem. So in that operation, how do APIs become part of this sprawl?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
And I think you touched on it at a high level, but I'm curious, why do security teams often lose track of these APIs?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
As organizations scale and evolve, so does the complexity of their APIs. The uncontrolled expansion of APIs creates a tangled web where vulnerabilities linger in the shadows. These unseen APIs become creepy crawlers of your digital infrastructure, creeping through your systems and posing security risks.
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
Sure. It's fascinating that there's so many APIs out there. It's the bedrock of applications, yet there's a small percentage of people that are managing them correctly. You said a term earlier, the creepy crawlers, right? And sticking with the theme, what are they within an API ecosystem and how do they contribute to security blind spots?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
That's clear. And I see the problem and how that can be obviously a major problem. And you live this space on a day-to-day basis. Can you share an example of an incident where sprawl contributed to a major breach or to a vulnerability?
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The Haunted House of APIs - The Haunted Web of APIs with Richard Bird
Richard will discuss how unmanaged and undocumented APIs contribute to blind spots, the risks they create for organizations, and the best strategies for securing a sprawling ecosystem. Well, Richard, thank you for being on the show today. It's great to be here.
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Before we jump into our topic for today, which is the haunted web, navigating API sprawl and creepy crawlers, tell me and my audience a little bit more about you.
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Okay, so clearly this is a problem. It's happening. We see it happening for the big players in the space. What can we do about it? What sort of strategies or tools can organizations use to manage and secure their API ecosystems as they grow and scale? How can they keep up with this?
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Meister, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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This will be fun. Let's dig into the future. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
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Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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give me advice when i was growing up so yeah it's definitely my family okay berkey last question so you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing they're jazzed about it they can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane what advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit
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And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Outside of tech, he played water polo for 10 years and enjoys playing the guitar. He finds inspiration in bands like Pearl Jam, who's coming to Europe soon, which Berkay is excited about. After getting into hackathons, Berkay and his co-founder built a prototype of their current company solution, an automatic transcription solution for voiceovers.
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So tell me about what you would consider the MVP. Maybe it's that hackathon version or maybe it's post that. You decide where you want to start. But tell me about the MVP. What sort of tools were you using to bring it to life and how long it took you to build?
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So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around, you know, what you're going to choose first. And you mentioned one earlier, maybe dive into that one or pick one that you really had to work through and how you cope with the decisions that you made.
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I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you built your roadmap, how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Maestro.
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Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was at the gate. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
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So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Or have there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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But like I said, having people that are a lot smarter than me, tech went from being one of the things where I was constantly banging my head against the wall trying to figure out what was happening to literally none of that where the stress has just melted away because I know that our tech team is a lot smarter than Stephanie and I. They know how to handle anything that goes wrong.
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We're also working with a new marketing group as well. And they're really helping us in terms of creating that awareness in the US. But I think with anything, you want to work with people who share a vision, have similar goals in mind, and really just are there to help evolve what you're already doing.
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And like I said, I think for me, it's really important to work with people that are, A, just as passionate as I am and have the same vision in mind, but are also experts in what they do. And so we're fortunate now that we have such a wonderful team that we work with, so much great help and support.
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And quite honestly, I know I could speak on behalf of Stephanie for this as well, but we're really grateful because it's really helped us focus on other elements of the business. Whereas before we were doing everything.
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everything and really trying to juggle everything just the two of us now we can really focus on growing the business and we know that we have support behind us that if we need it and they're doing what they're supposed to do so it's been awesome but like anything there's going to be growing pains but we can deal with the growing pains as long as the people that we work with share the same visions and goals in mind and we're fortunate that we have such a great team
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I think one story that I always think about was the very first person who got hired through Swab. So this would have been a few years ago. But Stephanie and I in the early days, and this was pre-COVID, would go into schools and we'd do a lot of presentations and speak to a lot of young people.
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I was this high school student and they came up to us, had some questions, said they were looking for their first ever job. Like I said, a high school student. So it's about that time where you should be looking for a part-time job. This person took our information and it was funny. We found out literally like, I think a week or two later that they had applied to a job and they got hired.
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Again, this was really early on. So it was, you know, we did some research and found that it was the very first ever candidate to get hired through Swab. So that was just a really cool moment. And that's something that I often think about because now there have been many people who have been hired and that's amazing. That's why we started Swab. That was the goal was to help people.
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And that's always been the goal. But I think I always go back to that very first success story. And I think even that knowing that somebody was able to find employment, especially in the early days where there were a lot of ups and there were also but there was also a lot of downs. So just knowing that it actually had helped somebody, it was such a gratifying moment.
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You know, we still get excited when we hear about candidates finding jobs through SWAB.
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On the employer side, we built that part of the platform with employer feedback. Like we would go and meet with employers and really just try and get as much information as possible, learn things, what they like about what they're currently using, what they don't like, what they would like to see. And it was something where a lot of employers really do struggle with bringing in candidates.
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Yeah, so I would say I'm a pretty regular guy. I love sports, love music, spending time with family and friends. Who doesn't? Sports is my passion. I'm a big hockey fan, love to play hockey. That's probably the number one thing that I do when I'm looking to just relieve some stress. Play guitar, that's another thing as well that I love to do in my spare time. I'm a new father.
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One of the things that we've done is really made sure that we listen to the pain points that they would identify and really be in a position where we could solve those pain points. For example, one of the things we would always hear from employers is they would post their job on other sites and they were getting candidates who were from out of town or out of the country and they weren't local.
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And that was a big issue for a lot of these employers because they're spending money on those candidates and it's not doing them any good. And so there was one story of a company in the US. It was a small automotive company. They were really struggling to find candidates. They were posting their jobs on other platforms and came across Swab, posted their job.
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We were there to support them, made sure everything was OK. And literally within two days, they made a hire. So they within two days of posting, they received candidates and made a hire. So. As much as we get excited about candidates who find jobs through Swab, we also get excited, obviously, on the employer side when they're able to find those candidates and it actually works for them.
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Because, again, we built the product for people who need the jobs, but the employers who are posting the jobs, there's no jobs without them. We really made sure that we listened to their feedback and took it seriously as well. And like I said, when somebody is able to find candidates and hire someone within two days, that seems pretty good to me.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
It's never not evolving. And whenever we look at the roadmap, it's just, is it ever done? But so there's a lot of things that we're working on. Like I said, new features that we're going to introduce in the app, things that you can unlock, different educational content, even on the employer side, we're completely revamping the employer sections.
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We're actually changing it where, because prior it used to be where employers would post their jobs and it would be a monthly or annual subscription. We're scrapping that. So it's going to be even easier on the employer side. It's going to be a freemium model. They can go and post their jobs for free, but if they want to boost their posting and make it more visible, they can have the option.
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There are a ton of things that we're working on right now. We even did a website revamp, but I think ultimately the biggest thing Like I said, was all of the features that we can introduce are going to be awesome, but they don't mean anything if there's no jobs.
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And so that's the biggest thing, too, is we're just continuing to work with new partners and really make sure that we're growing across North America and have more and more opportunities available each day.
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For sure. If you're looking for a job, you can download Swab free in the App Store or Google Play. And you can also use our website to look for jobs as well. And if you're an employer who's looking to post and hire candidates, you can go to swabapp.com to get started.
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My son just turned one, so... That's been an interesting year this past year. I think that I wear my heart on my sleeve. You could probably tell just based on being around me how I am or what kind of a mood I'm in. And that's yeah, that's me.
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Yeah, so Swab app is a job app that we've designed to really help make the job search easy. What inspired the idea for Swab was really my own frustration while looking for jobs. I'm sure Stephanie told you this the last time when she was speaking with you, but I began looking for jobs when I was working in the marketing industry.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
I was working for an agency, began getting frustrated there, and I started to look for new opportunities. And I honestly just remembered thinking to myself, there needs to be an easier way to do this. It was so unbelievably frustrating. And I'll admit at the time I was using Tinder and that's what inspired the idea.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
So what Swab is, like I said, it's a job app that we've created to really simplify the job search. So if you think Tinder, but for jobs, so you put in your location, select what you're looking for. So whether it's part time, full time industries that you want to look at. And then boom, you're on your way. And it's really straightforward.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
So like Tinder, if you don't want to apply to a job, swipe left. If you do want to apply, swipe right. And it's the same on the desktop as well. So we're really just trying to make that job search easy and convenient and really making sure that it isn't a difficult process.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
And if you are looking for a job, that it is something that's straightforward and easy to do and not going to take so much time in doing so.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
Lots has changed since you spoke with Stephanie. One of the biggest things that we've done recently is really commit ourselves into the U.S. We've been really focused in the United States now, I'd say for the better part of a year and really trying to grow our presence there. So we're still helping companies across Canada and people who are looking for jobs in Canada.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
We're still supporting all of those people. But just the U.S. is really an area that we wanted to focus on pre-COVID. And then COVID happened. And that, I think, was the real push that we needed.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
So right now there's over seven and a half million jobs across the platform in North America, which we're really excited about, because one of the things that one of the one of the bits of feedback or criticism that we used to hear was really cool app, not a lot of jobs in certain areas where big cities like Toronto or Chicago or New York would be loaded with jobs.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
It was the smaller towns that maybe didn't have a bunch. And now that there are seven and a half million jobs on the platform, there are jobs everywhere. So that experience for a job seeker has just been elevated due to the simple fact that there's so much opportunity available.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
The app has evolved a ton since you would have spoken with Stephanie, but at its core, it's still doing what we initially set out for it to do, which is help people find jobs. And now we're just showing more and more opportunities for people. We're working with a new team in terms of our developers and our tech side. So our CTO and our developers are just, they're amazing.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
I don't have a technical background. And so having people who are so knowledgeable and such experts in this area makes it so easy for me. Our CTO, for example, is a former Google executive. He was a co-creator of YouTube TV.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
And just knowing that somebody like that is on our team who shares the vision and really has the same kind of goal in mind, it just takes off so much stress and it's such a relief.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
And so what we're doing now, what we want to hope or what we hope to continue to do is obviously just support people in their job search, continue to grow the platform in terms of making sure there are more and more opportunities and really introducing things that are going to help people on their job search.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
Because one of the things that we're also doing now is really making a lot of educational content and really trying to go above and beyond in terms of how we're helping people in their job search outside of just providing them a platform with opportunities to look for. It's unfortunate, but a lot of people really struggle, especially younger people really struggle in their job search.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
especially when it comes to things like resume building or communication with an employer, that type of etiquette, how to communicate, what to do beyond an interview, how to prep for an interview.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
So those are a lot of things that we're starting to introduce as well, which are really going to help more people because a lot of people, unfortunately, miss out on opportunities because of silly things. And if we can help fix that, it's just another way that we're helping people out in their job search.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
Yeah, so it's funny you ask because that's something that is just always ongoing. And I think for us, one of the biggest things that we really wanted to solve and make sure that we were doing was providing ample opportunity on the app and on the website. Because that was a bit of feedback that we heard early on was remote areas don't necessarily have the most jobs.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
And there are people who struggle in those areas who need jobs and who can't find jobs. And so now that was one thing that we really wanted to prioritize and really make an emphasis on improving. So the fact that we were able to hit seven and a half million jobs and the number of jobs is growing was priority one for us.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
That at its core was something we really wanted to do and make sure that whatever we were doing in the background, whatever updates or new tweaks we were making, there would always be jobs there. So we're really proud and excited of the fact that there are that many jobs available right now.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
It just makes the experience so much easier and it provides the user a lot of opportunities that they maybe don't find on other platforms or maybe they don't even know exists. We're also, like I said, introducing more educational content and things that we're going to have behind paywalls and different features in the app that we're going to introduce.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
And it's funny, like our product roadmap, I feel like it's always evolving. And one of the nice things about having a former Google executive as our CTO now is the amount of ideas and outside the box thinking that they bring. It's amazing. And so right now, like I said, the biggest thing was making sure that there were jobs on the platform.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
And now that we have the jobs and the number is continuing to grow, there's so many other things that we're going to be working on and introduce in the background. But I think that was the biggest thing, making sure that the jobs were there.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
Definitely part of that. Again, I think what inspired that part of it is a lot of people struggle. It's easy to go onto a platform, whether it's Swab or another site, and look for jobs and apply. But beyond that, if you struggle or don't really know what to do in terms of next steps... you're just going to get weeded out.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
It's unfortunate because we've seen it so many times and we've seen so many opportunities and so many cases where somebody didn't get a job or didn't get a second interview or whatever it is because of silly mistakes. And so what might seem obvious to you and I when searching for jobs or communicating with a potential employer, it's not so obvious to a lot of people.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
And so that was just something where we thought we really, we want to make sure that candidates and people that are on our platform have access to opportunities, but we want to make sure that they're actually getting, taking advantage of the opportunities and getting in those doors.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
So that was something that was really important to us was to really make sure that if people are struggling, that beyond the job opportunities that are shown on SWAB, we're offering resources to also help you in that journey and really help you feel confident when you're applying to those jobs. Because we've also seen a lot of people who
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afraid to apply to jobs and because they don't know how to handle if an employer reaches out or calls them for an initial phone interview. And so if we can just help those individuals feel that much more prepared and confident, that's the biggest thing. So really making sure that when you're on swab, you're finding those opportunities, but you're actually landing those opportunities as well.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
Yeah, so that was an awesome experience. So in 2018, we were actually named the first ever Canadian company to win Richard Branson's Pitch to Rich contest. In the early days of Swab, Stephanie and I used to do a lot of pitch competitions and get involved in as many contests or competitions that we could.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
Because for us, we just thought it could be an opportunity to win money and really put that back into the business and help us. And so that was something that I had come across. There was an application process for it. I thought, hey, what do we have to lose? Why not? So I submitted the application and I'm not sure, maybe a month or so went by, found out that we were a finalist.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
We had to do a one minute video pitch to Richard Branson that he would personally view and found out a couple of days later that we had won. And honestly, like even talking about it now, When I think about that, it was so surreal getting that phone call saying that we had won.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
And honestly, it was so humbling to know that an idea that we had, the risk that we took to start this idea was validated by somebody like Richard Branson. So it was truly humbling for me and for Stephanie as well. It was such an awesome experience. We actually got flown out to Calgary and got to spend some time with Richard. We went to an event with him and it was awesome.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
We had so much fun and really got to pick his brain. And like I said, just knowing that he was the one to personally select us as the winners, it truly was humbling.
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S10 Whats New with SWOB - Alex Florio
It's a good question. And that's one thing where I'm grateful we have a CTO with the type of knowledge that he has and the team that we have in terms of our tech support or our technical side. I think with anything, there's always hiccups or hurdles along the way. And in this case, it's no different. Things are always crashing. Things always go wrong.
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
Okay, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with DigiCode, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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This will be interesting. Tell me what the future looks like for DigiCode and what you offer and for your team.
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
Let's switch to you, Alkin. Who influences the way that you work? A person or many persons or something you look up to and why?
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
He eventually left tech to try some other types of businesses, but eventually returned. He has done a few early stage startups in the past, in particular in the 3D printing space before it was cool. Six years ago, he joined his current venture, but outside of tech, he enjoys traveling and is in a competition with his daughter to see how many countries he can visit.
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
Elkin, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person?
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
Having gone down this road a bit, you mentioned earlier from a startup fashion, but also in DigiCode. There is so much.
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
When he reads, he prefers to go back to the books he has read and enjoyed before. And being in Texas, he's a big fan of grilling out on his big green egg. As I mentioned, six years ago, Elkin joined a company that wanted to be more than a software development shop.
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
I appreciate that advice. Well, Elkin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story, your creation story at DigiCode.
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
It was a pleasure. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
He and the founder of the company wanted to build a company that did more than throw bodies at a problem, but actually become a long-term partner to their clients. This is the creation story of DigiCode.
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
Let's dive into what you would consider, you know, the MVP when you joined the company, right? The first version of Digicode, you know, where was the company at? What you offered? How are you approaching what you offered and how you were offering it? And tell me a little bit about those early stories when you joined.
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S10 Bonus: Elkhan Shabanov, Digicode
Let's dive into that. So, you know, OK, so that's the first version. Right. And and I'm I'm curious about that evolution that probably fits into what might be considered a roadmap. Right. Or how you're going about evolving that business or addressing what's important. So tell me a little bit about that.
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You know, you said you're saying we multiple times. I'm curious about how you go about building your team. Right. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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And have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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Now you have Vector Search. You're fueling this local replica process. Where do you take this next? This is already an incredibly powerful platform, but where do you take this next? Where do you see this going?
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Awesome. I appreciate that. I want to dive into the SDK portion because you're right. It's super fragmented. There's all kinds of things that you would need to support. How do you choose what is the most important SDK to go make sure is perfect? And how do you go about deciding if you're going to add new ones?
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Makes sense, totally makes sense. And it is a struggle. There's so much out there. Okay, so I'm a developer. I'm building this really cool product and I wanna be able to use SQLite. I wanna be able to use something like Terso where I can remotely update my databases, but on the device itself, I want to be able to do the vector search. I wanna be able to have the embedded replica.
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S10 Turso Update with Pekka Enberg
I wanna essentially be able to process data in a fast way on my local device. How do I get started using Terso? What do I need to do?
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S10 Turso Update with Pekka Enberg
Fantastic. Well, Pekka, I really appreciate you being on the show today and giving the update on Terso. done some really amazing things with the things that you're calling, quote unquote, boring with multi-tenancy and embedded replicas.
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S10 Turso Update with Pekka Enberg
But the vector search capabilities that are on device and being able to power that fast data retrieval and remote syncing with your edge network is really, really fantastic and fascinating. Really appreciate you being on the show, giving the update. Cool. Thank you for having me. Incredible.
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S10 Turso Update with Pekka Enberg
Now with Terso, you can not only have embedded replicas on your device with multi-tenancy and syncing to Terso's edge network, but now the tool powers vector search from the device itself, leading to natively serverless, low-latency SQLite production loads. Terso continues to push the envelope forward with their product and expanding use cases for development.
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If you'd like to learn more about Terso, go to terso.tech. If you'd like to learn more specifically about Vector Search, go to terso.tech slash vector or sign up for their Discord. And thanks again for listening.
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S10 Turso Update with Pekka Enberg
Remind my audience what Terso is. So you gave the high level of your founder of Terso and bringing more lows to SQLite. But tell me and the audience a bit of a reminder of what Terso really is.
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S10 Turso Update with Pekka Enberg
Tell me about some of the maybe the success stories of the customers. What are they doing with Terso and how have they found success with bringing that into production?
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Okay, so tell me the update. We talked about a few things before recording the episode, but I'm curious about what has gone on with Terso. What have you built? What have you shipped to the world? And what has been the big changes with the product?
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S10 Turso Update with Pekka Enberg
Okay, so I want to dig into the boring part before I get into the not boring part with the vector search. So from an engineering standpoint, I couldn't imagine multi-tenancy and all the things you're working on or worked on there was boring. But tell me why that's important. Why is it important for multi-tenancy for your customers?
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S10 Turso Update with Pekka Enberg
Today, I have an incredible follow-up episode from our friends at Terso. You may remember our episode with Glauber Costa in Season 8, where he told us the creation story of the platform. Today, I'm speaking with his co-founder, Pekka, to hear the update on Terso and what the team has been building over the past year. Have a listen.
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Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. Certainly. Okay, that makes sense. That gives me a good idea there of what people would use that for. Okay, so tell me about vector search. So people are, you know, are getting, you know, bored, sure, with the LLM stuff, because it's all in the buzz and things, but it's super useful. And it's really valuable.
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Give me some use cases of the vector search. What drove you to that?
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S10 Turso Update with Pekka Enberg
Well, today I have another special guest on the Code Story podcast, Pekka Enberg of Terso. Pekka, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you.
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Yeah, wow. So that's really interesting. You can pull data essentially from within the client itself, whether it be mobile device, and we're talking about mobile devices, eventually, maybe it could be browsers or something like that. But a client, you don't have to go to a server itself to do the heavy computing. How did you figure that out? Because that's not a small thing.
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Usually, you're reliant on the power of the device, right? So if you're using a weak device, it's not going to work very well. Tell me about that.
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Absolutely. You know, recently we had your partner Glauber on the podcast to tell us about the creation, the inception story of Terso. But we're going to dive into a bit of an update of the things you've been working on. But before we do, tell me a little bit about you.
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S10 Turso Update with Pekka Enberg
No doubt. It's a really smart way to solve that problem, right, of the local replica, the being able to vector search on the device while still, you know, or eventually syncing, right, to your edge network, to your remote databases. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf. If slow QA processes bottleneck your software engineering team and you're releasing slower because of it, you need a solution.
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S9 E31: Konrad Niemiec, Lekko
Given what you've built and who you're building it for, I'm curious about scalability, right? You know, obviously you build for scale the best you can in the beginning with abstractions and things. And I'm curious, did you approach it that way from day one or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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S9 E31: Konrad Niemiec, Lekko
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built thus far. What are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it. I know you mentioned the scalability mistake, and maybe it's that one and you want to dig in more, or maybe it's a different one.
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So this will be fun, Conrad. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
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Let's switch to you, Conrad. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Last question, Conrad. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Conrad, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Lecko.
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And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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His core values are curiosity and community, which drives a lot of what he does outside of tech. He likes to learn other things, and his current hobby set includes surfing and spikeball, of which he's working on perfecting his spin serve. Conrad worked at Uber on the self-driving team. After a few years, he wanted to be less of a cog in the machine and joined a small startup.
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He introduced a feature flagging platform and quickly realized how fast configuration bloat appeared in the platform. He also realized how dynamic configuration could take the platform beyond the limits of feature flags. This is the creation story of Lekko.
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Let's dive into the MVP of Leko, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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Let's stay on that version or that MVP, the first one. Those decisions and trade-offs you had to make when you were building those, right? They're hard. You gotta really dig in and figure out what you're gonna focus on, how you're gonna approach the problem and all those sorts of things. So tell me about some of those you had to work through in this first version and how you coped with them.
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And I think this is where the next MVP sort of introduces itself. And I think that's part of the progression of the product. So tell me about that MVP version two and also how you went about deciding that this was the most appropriate thing to do next. And, you know, to wrap in a box a little bit, kind of roadmap building.
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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So this will be fun. It's early days. You are building a product that you're excited to be known for now after the pivot. Tell me about what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
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Okay, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, so last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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That's fantastic advice. I certainly agree with that. Well, Icky, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Common Base.
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So tell me about and this will this will be super interesting. Tell me about the MVP for CommonBase. And this is the this is the second version. Obviously, there's going to be technological overlap like we talked about. But the MVP for what CommonBase is now, how long did it take you to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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Let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, any version of a product, you have to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you're going to approach it. And I hear you saying you approached it to prove the point. Tell me about some of those decisions you had to make. Feature cut or approach or tech debt acceptance, all those things. And how you cope with those decisions.
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And how do you go about deciding what is the next most important thing to build or to address?
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Or are there interesting areas where you're fighting it as you grow?
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far with Commonbase, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Let's switch to you, Ro. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Last question, Ralph. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. Well, Rove, thanks for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Block Party.
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So tell me about the MVP for Block Party. What did that first version of the product look and feel like? And what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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On that MVP version, when you're building any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs about how you're going to approach building the solution, creating the product. So tell me about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to work through, maybe around tech debt or approach, or like you said, you're on iOS only, kind of working through those decisions.
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Tell me about how you made those and how you coped with the decisions.
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And I'm curious about how you decide what is the next most important thing to build or to address with the product?
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So this will be interesting. Tell me about team. How do you go about building your team? Is it just you or do you have multiple people that you're working with? And what do you look for in those people and indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Was it built to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind, maybe abstractions, things like that, or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of? And I mean with Blockparty specifically.
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Okay, Amri, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, last question on me. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Amri, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of MZero.
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And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Omri Hai is 41 years old, married with three young kids. He has lived his whole life in Israel. Unlike many founders in Israel Tech, he did not serve his military service in a technology group, but as a commanding officer in the infantry. Outside of technology, he's passionate about all things sports and loves to follow Liverpool FC.
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Mostly, he enjoys chilling out, catching a movie or listening to music. Omri and his co-founder used to work together at a big company in Israel. They encountered problems scaling environments efficiently and fast. Back then, there was no cloud. It was just getting started.
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I've heard different points where you could start this story, but I'm curious about the MVP, right? The first version of the product. And that's maybe, you know, post-project after you left the companies and started on a new journey within Xero. Tell me about that MVP and, you know, how long it took you to build and what sort of tools you're using to bring it to life.
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Let's stay on the MVP for just a minute. With any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you approach the problem, right? Could be, okay, we're going to really focus on this portion of the product, or we're going to use this framework. And I hear you mentioning tools there, or we're going to accept some technical debt.
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Tell me about some of those things you had to work through and how you coped with those decisions.
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And I think to wrap that question in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you build your roadmap, how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with MZero.
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built to render, what are you most proud of? There's obviously lots to be proud of there, but tell me what comes to mind for you.
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it. And I know there's scalability issues and things like that we already talked about, but less about growing pains and more about a mistake.
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Let's switch to you, Anurag. So tell me who influences the way that you work. Tell me about a person or many persons or something that influences the way you work on a day-to-day basis.
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So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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I think that's fantastic advice. So, Hanirat, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Render. Thank you.
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And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Anurag Goyal grew up in New Delhi, but moved to Boston after college for his first job. He worked at Stripe as the eighth employee before eventually moving on and launching his current venture. Outside of tech, he's married, living in San Francisco. He likes to read science fiction, especially prior to bedtime.
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He also enjoys eating Thai food on the regular, though he mentioned he could eat pizza every day. Post leaving Stripe, Anurag decided to work on an ambitious problem. And he started doing this by building a bunch of stuff in many different domains.
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After noticing a common problem in building out Kubernetes, he decided to start a new business to abstract these problems and allow builders to focus on the differentiating factors of their solutions. This is the creation story of Render.
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Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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Tell me about that process you went through in building that. You still got to make certain decisions and trade-offs and deciding on what you choose. So I heard you choosing Python because that was your language of choice. Tell me a little bit more about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that early version and how you cope the decisions.
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And I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you go about building your roadmap and then and now? And what criteria are you using to decide, OK, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Renderer?
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I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate they're the winning horses to join you?
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Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with bread specifically, what are you most proud of?
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Rob, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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So this will be super fun. And you've kind of touched on this, you know, sprinkled throughout your answers, but I want to give it focus time. Tell me what the future looks like for Bread, for, you know, for what you offer, what you're going to offer and for your team.
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Let's switch to you, Rob. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, Rob, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit in lots of different capacities?
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I really appreciate that advice. Well, Rob, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of bread.
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And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Labhart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com. Rob Grazioli started his life in Brooklyn, New York, but moved to Italy for his dad's job and lived there from age 5 to 13. He ended up moving back to the States for high school and college and finds that it's difficult to separate tech and work from his life. Outside of tech, he enjoys exercising and has always been an athlete, most recently picking up basketball.
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He really loves to make things, learn how things work, and to munch on Oreos. Eight years ago, Rob and his partner started a company called Density, allowing businesses to count the number of people in a room. After growing that business, Rob realized that he wanted to get back to building things. And after working with early businesses, he found his passion in being founders for hire.
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My next question will be interesting given that bread as it is right now is the MVP. So tell me about that MVP. You know, you kind of gave me origination story. Tell me maybe a little more detail on how it got started and what sort of tools you were using to bring bread to life in this MVP form.
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I hear you saying that you've got ideas of what are next, but how are you going to go about deciding what's the next most important thing, you know, to build or to address or to automate or those things with bread?
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How are you going about building your team, right? You've worked with your founding team, your partners for, you've worked with them in many different capacities and different businesses. I'm curious about how you're building your team and outside of them. And what do you look for in those people to indicate they're the winning horses to join you?
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But I'm curious about how you're going about scaling bread or thinking about scalability. And do you anticipate areas where it's going to pinch, right? Where you're going to have to fight it as you grow?
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So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with P0, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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What does the future look like for P0 security, the product and for your team?
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Let's switch to you, Shashwat. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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That's fantastic advice. Well, Shashua, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of P0 security.
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And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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He's into sports, loves to play tennis, but admits he hasn't played pickleball yet because the courts are always booked. He always enjoys reading, in particular, historical narratives and autobiographies. In his prior years, Shashwat noticed that developers spend a large amount of time securing business assets in the cloud.
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He dreamt of a world where this was just an abstraction layer on top of the cloud, making it easier for developers to complete the task. This is the creation story of P0 Security.
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So let's dive into the MVP, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months of moonlighting. There's nothing at the back end. Who share what it takes to change an industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve. Most proud of our team.
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Whether you're growing the user adoption of your public API or streamlining internal development, SDKs can turn the chore of API integration into effortless implementation. Unburden your API users from guessing their way around your API while keeping your team focused on your product. Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So tell me about how you mature and progress the product. How have you done that? And I'm curious about how you go about building your roadmap. How do you go about deciding this is the next most important thing to build or to address with PZero?
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Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
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So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you went about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Was it built to scale from day one? Or were there areas where you had to fight it as you grew?
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I'm curious about teams. To make anything happen like this, you've got to have a team. You've got to have the right team. So tell me about how you have built and go about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built thus far with Al, what are you most proud of?
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Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Jason Hill was born and raised in New York and post-college went back to New York and joined the financial services industry, though he was always into technology. Eventually he moved to South Florida because every time he was in New York, he couldn't wait to leave. He enjoys playing poker, pickleball, and spending time with his two kids.
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Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Jason has been a podcaster for many years, interviewing founders and creators of new startup and tech solutions. When COVID hit, he was struck with how difficult it was to connect with individuals via audio call. He validated an idea he had, and combining his ambition and a little bit of boredom, he got a crew building a solution. This is the creation story of OwlApp.
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Let's move forward then. And you already mentioned some of this, but I want to dig into the community aspect and the future of the platform. Tell me what the future looks like. You're, you're a couple of years in now you're, you have some traction. People are getting a lot of value out of the platform. You mentioned wanting to drive more community. Tell me about that.
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And then tell me in general, what does the future look like?
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Let's move on to you, Jason. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Last question, Jason. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. They can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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Couldn't agree more. Well, Jason, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Allap.
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And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Let's dive into what you would consider the MVP then. It sounds like right around that timeframe, when that first version, maybe this was 2021, when you started doing the building. Tell me about that MVP. What sort of tools were used to bring it to life and how long it took?
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This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my dear.
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Dive into the back office decision a little bit for me. You know, there's decisions and tradeoffs you got to make when you're building MVP. It sounds like you had to put a lot of time into thinking about that back office decision. Tell me about what you had to work through in that and how you coped with it.
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Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Jason Hill created a way for you to connect, learn, and grow. through private one-on-one audio calls. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
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You're, you're getting some traction. You're growing to some users. I'm curious about how you progress it from that point and continue to progress it and mature it. And to wrap it in a box a little bit when looking for is kind of roadmap, right? How, how do you build your roadmap and how do you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address without.