Michaela
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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
I love Jersey, but I also am interested in going to maybe D.C. or Maryland. I know that's also equally expensive, so I know for sure my rent would be more.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
That's true. Yeah, I 100% agree.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Definitely want to focus a lot on paying off my debt. I feel like once that's paid off, it's going to be a great help and a sigh of relief is that I can put more into my retirement and investing. I don't really see the point of investing when I still have a lot of debt left over.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
So I do currently have a Chase credit card debt, but I'm not really too stressed about that because I have like maybe a thousand left and I should be at zero at the end of the first quarter.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Yes. I do have a car note and that's like 20 K.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Yes.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
That, I believe it's 9%. And I messed up because I didn't know anything about cars. So when I went to get my car, I actually got a loan. That's where the personal loan debt comes in, thinking that I was going to use that money to pay for the car. But the car dealership made me go through their process. So I ended up going through them. So that's how I got the car note and the personal loan.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Exactly.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Absolutely.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
I think the APR is 11%.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
The balance, it's $13,000.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
I believe maybe it would be the snowball method. I've started aggressively paying off the Chase credit card.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Yes.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
It has.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Yes, exactly.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
I do have an emergency fund, but it's only funded for one month currently.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Zero. Zero dollars.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Thank you. I do have a 401k and a simple IRA and a Roth IRA.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
The simple IRA, I believe around 3k. The 401k, I believe is around 5 or 6k. The Roth IRA, I believe it's just 200.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Right now, honestly, I haven't been aggressively saving because I'm aggressively paying off the debt. But I do put aside, I think it's 10% out of my paycheck automatically goes into a savings account. I won't lie, sometimes I do touch it.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Gotcha. Thank you so much. That is really good advice.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
It's really high. It's like $29,000.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Honestly, I'm not too versed on the whole investing category. I'm kind of just picking up tips as I go, just guessing. I do just randomly pick stocks or whatever I tend to use. I just buy one share, but I'm not really sure as to what to do with that.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Yes, I am.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
So everything is infidelity, which makes it a lot easier to track everything. In terms of allocating money, I really haven't allocated anything towards my Roth IRA or my simple IRA. In terms of the 401k, I think I've been doing 8%. I'm not sure if that's what I should be doing for my age, but that's what I've been doing.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
Right now, it's sort of just in the background. I'm not really sure what to do with it, honestly.
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I would love to try a different one because I do feel very limited because everything is allocated for and like I said, if something was to happen or I want to go somewhere in the middle of the month, I kind of deprive myself of it because it was not allocated prior.
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I do want to, but at the same time, my debt.
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It's about $900.
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It is.
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
That was actually a question I had for you guys. Should I put it into savings or should I put that, say, in my $100 into my car note or the personal loan?
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How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter
I think I just need to get out of the mindset that it's either or and realize that I can do all at the same time.
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I feel a lot better, more confident and secure in the decisions that I've been making. I feel like I'm definitely going to think a little bit harder and longer about my budgeting method, my retirement and what I want to do in terms of the Roth IRA and the 401k and just overall being okay with where I'm at right now and knowing that there's room for growth and I'm on the right path.
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Thank you. That means a lot.
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Thank you for having me.
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Honestly, I think I'm doing pretty well compared to how I was doing a couple of years ago. I feel like now I finally have a stable job. So that definitely helps a lot.
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I'm a paralegal.
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Yes, it definitely does.
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$55,000 a year.
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Right now I do have a roommate. So rent is split in half, which I absolutely love because paying full rent in Jersey is just insane. So rent is split in half, but everything else is solely on me.
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I do practice a zero-based budget right now, so I don't really have quote-unquote fun money. Everything is allocated to something. If I do have plans with friends, then it would have to be allocated at the beginning of the month. If it's not, then I probably won't go.
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I do, 100%.
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I would very much hope to be out of debt. I think realistically, I would still have my student loans because I do plan to return back to school this year. So everything else, though, I would like to believe that would be paid off.
The Glenn Beck Program
NSA Officials Used Classified Chat to Talk Smut on YOUR Dime | Guests: Rep. Riley Moore & Rep. Aaron Bean | 2/25/25
Little Baby Sparrow update. In a nutshell, if you haven't heard the full story of Baby Sparrow, you can go to glenbeck.com slash savebabysparrow. But in a nutshell, our State Department attempted to sweep the life of a little girl under the rug to cover up for their botched attempt at peace in Afghanistan.
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Yes, so she was recovered by our soldiers during a mission in Afghanistan when her parents, biological parents, who were likely foreign fighters, were killed. Then two Americans... Not just killed. Yes.
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Yes.
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No. It was a fight to the death against our soldiers. Right. And then our soldiers decided to save the baby of their enemies. And then two American parents decided to step up and adopt her to ensure her survival. Because after the explosion of the IED, she had a lot of medical needs. I mean, she was six weeks old at this point.
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They did. They tried to kill her.
The Glenn Beck Program
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Yes. So there's a battle for her custody. It's important to understand why. It's because her mere existence would...
The Glenn Beck Program
NSA Officials Used Classified Chat to Talk Smut on YOUR Dime | Guests: Rep. Riley Moore & Rep. Aaron Bean | 2/25/25
show that the peace agreement that we made which with afghanistan which stipulated there were no foreign fighters in afghanistan well she's the daughter of a foreign fighter thus the state department finds her existence inconvenient right she has to be afghani so she has to go back to afghanistan and so today in virginia where her american parents adopted her
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She is facing a case where if it goes the wrong way, she is potentially ripped from her American family who loves her, who have been with her for multiple years, raising her, helping to recuperate from all the trauma she's experienced. She's ripped from them. She's sent to Afghanistan with two children.
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likely non-relative unvetted potentially taliban linked claimants back to a place where she has where her family is here so that's on the line today right now in the supreme court of virginia
The Glenn Beck Program
NSA Officials Used Classified Chat to Talk Smut on YOUR Dime | Guests: Rep. Riley Moore & Rep. Aaron Bean | 2/25/25
If you'd like a little bit of good news on this front about the power of what our audience is doing, I've been listening. I think some good news is in order for all of us, perhaps. Yeah. Some good news is that I believe our audience is not going to let Baby Sparrow be sent back to Afghanistan. And here's just a little glimmer of hope.
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NSA Officials Used Classified Chat to Talk Smut on YOUR Dime | Guests: Rep. Riley Moore & Rep. Aaron Bean | 2/25/25
There's a lot of good news that is coming that we can't talk about yet. But I can tell you a little bit. There is a woman who's a longstanding bureaucrat in D.C. She was instrumental.
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donna welton was instrumental in placing baby sparrow with these unvetted claimants in afghanistan interesting timing she has decided to let me say it correctly conclude her tenure in advance of eminent retirement in the last few days oh my gosh so i believe this timing has something to do with the fact that our audience has been sharing this story people like sean ryan have gone out and shared this story naming her by name and we can't say for sure but i have a hunch that
The Glenn Beck Program
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The power of everyone sharing her story and getting involved is already putting pressure in the right places. And the right people are starting to bow out. And hopefully that will mean this is just the beginning of miracles for Baby Sparrow.
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Are you a door kicker in this position?
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Personal updates? Yeah, what's happening? It's raining. I'm in my vibe. We've been going to that $35 head spa pretty often.
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$100,000 to $200,000 is crazy. Like, she is paying rent. She's helping him pay his mortgage, which is already, like, a very good situation for him. Huge! Like, he doesn't have to pay the entire mortgage on a house that's completely in his name. And his mom's not paying anything. His mom doesn't have to pay anything and she gets to live there. And she's still on the deed. Yeah. Yeah.
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And the girlfriend is buying the groceries. I mean, it sounds like... He's made other comments about making up for her, you know, living there, which I understand like that she is living there and like her paying for some things makes a lot of sense. But he has a great situation here.
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And to have, like, basically your landlord say you need to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for my house's renovations, which is basically what this is here, is an insane ask. Like, that is for your home. It's your home. And she already compromised. She didn't want to live there.
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You stay clothed and it's a big room of people who are clothed. They might be offering a really shocking discount.
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It was a compromise to even live there. Like now he's just expecting she got her to give in and now he's expecting her to give in more and more and more. The amount to is crazy. The hundreds of thousands of dollars is insane to expect of someone who does not have any ownership of that house.
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yeah i'm kind of confused about the details of that like so curious so she owned the house owned the house own owed like maybe 100k or whatever left he just has to take over the mortgage and then it's and also she gets to keep living there yeah which sounds like a great deal for him and his mom i understand why he would want to do that like that's an incredible price to pay to buy a home
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Yeah. Which for me, ideal situation. Like actually, I prefer that. So paying less for that.
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And you get to live with your mom like that. That's awesome. I would love to do that, too. I know. But if I had a partner to consider and we were talking about doing something together and then to ask them for mortgage payments and groceries and cooking and cleaning and taking care of the dog and hundreds of thousands of dollars renovations like no.
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He has an incredible situation right now. He got like a very good deal on buying a house and his girlfriend is paying helping him pay off the mortgage for it. Uh huh.
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She's seeing. Actually, I made a Reddit account last week and one of the suggested pages to follow is two hot takes. Let's go. And it was like all these very general subjects and then two hot takes. And I was like, OK, I see you, Morgan.
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Yeah, if I go to Raising Cane's and they're like, you know what? We want to we want to build a new iced tea machine and you're going to benefit from it. So you should chip in. I'd be like, well, but it's your iced tea machine. Yes, I'll benefit from it, but it's not mine. I'm actually paying for the iced tea.
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Did he actually say that? He said something like that. Yeah. Look it up. Oh, my God. Maybe like, no, I think it was that. But if not, then it was something very similar to that.
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Yeah. I mean, even if I go to your house and I'm like, wow, it really boosts my mood to see this nice dirt.
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Still won't charge you. You're unbelievably generous in ways that people can't dream of.
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Yeah. He was like, we're still making money. Why would I increase the price? Wow. We don't see that energy enough.
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Obviously, this is, like, a very tough story. The one shining light is that he found out before it seems like anything happened and, like, that this has been brought to light before, you know, anything, like, worse has taken place, you know?
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But this is just, like, so messed up. And, yeah, like, she doesn't know, I guess, the extent of it, but I think you can tell from, like, how...
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from how like vehemently he's probably said it to her and like just from like the subtext and the context clues of like it's a really bad situation like I think it's clear that this isn't just a situation where he doesn't get along with his parents or like you know he just doesn't
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I like that it has these little points at the ends of it that you can kind of push in for the banana. Yeah.
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Even to like bring it up as a conversation with him of like wanting to go see his parents would be like disrespectful, but to not even bring it up and to just do it behind his back. That is insane. And you're just not protecting your kid. For what? Yeah. Like, that... Really, for what? Like, what is she gaining out of that? Like, what even is... Like, she has other people to bring the kid to.
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Like, could it be a misguided... Like, ooh, I want to repair their relationship because I don't know how bad it is. It's not your fucking place. And also have a little bit of sense of, like, this is a serious situation. I'm putting my child in danger and disrespecting my partner. Not just disrespecting. I don't even know what the word is. Like... But worse.
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Clearly they've... I don't know who contacted who first, but clearly they've been having some kind of communication without his knowledge where things are being said that are probably not accurate to the truth of the situation. And conversations that he should...
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be a part not even he should be a part of because they just shouldn't be happening in general but why are you gonna make a three-year-old lie for you yeah oh you have to say you're at at my my parents at grandma and grandpa blah blah blahs and with when instructing him to do that how does she not realize wait like i might be wrong if i'm having to do something like this
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It's very scary for him to be like, I don't know if I can trust having my kid around the mother of my kid now. He's scared about leaving him with her and he's scared that she doesn't have the sense to make decisions to protect him and not only make decisions to protect him, but makes decisions that put him in harm's way. It's a lot at once to be worried about.
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Yeah. So it sounds like the father is being like, I'm dying soon and I want to have a relationship with my grandchild. But he's only contacting her because obviously the father is never going to like, no, forgive him.
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and let him have that relationship he's not entitled to that relationship he can't be trusted did they ever update on like if they've now had that conversation with or sorry i guess it's a girlfriend right not yeah if they've had a conversation with the girlfriend about what happened and like her apologizing and saying she feels bad and like won't do it again
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That should also just be something a normal person would agree to without having to go to court over it. Like, it sucks that it's even at that point where he would have to, like, get a judge to tell her she can't. Like, she should just be like, oh, my God, I had no idea. I'm so sorry. I don't. Like, I really fucked up here. Yeah.
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And, like, that still wouldn't make it okay, but at least, like, he wouldn't have to be so scared going forward.
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Yeah, none of these people know the situation as well as he does. Why do they think their opinion is more important?
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Yeah their ages I like thought about their ages when we first started the story and then that didn't come up again but yeah they were what like 19 and 20 when they first had their son. So this is definitely like a very
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young relationship it's hard because like when i even want to start to be like i guess there's a chance that like she's young and like they manipulated her and made him made her think that like the father the grandfather's dying and it's her only chance to see him but she just like ruins any chance of redemption by still not getting it by not like
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understanding now even after he's told her why it's such a big deal like there are just so many elements here where it's like even if there was a chance for this to just have been some huge terrible mistake she's not even recognizing that like she's still not Like, I guess she kind of apologized, but then she said, but I don't understand why you're so mad.
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I shouldn't have like gone behind your back. I shouldn't have told him to lie. Like, I, I am ignorant. I didn't see the signs. I don't know why I thought I could. Like, I didn't understand the scope of what happened to you. Like, yeah, they're. are potentially things she could have said had she realized the gravity of the situation that could have made it possible for them to repair things, maybe.
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it's people they know yeah it's family members who seem fine they seem very nice like to call to say that they seem fine because they were very nice is just such a naive thing to say like anybody can seem nice it's a murderer could seem nice yeah and they usually do like it's very easy all people who do these things yeah some might have an obviously rancid vibe but most people can make themselves appear very nice especially the ones who are really good at it yeah and
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I think it's also a good moment of him like talking to his son about what bad touches are and like I think it's that can get lost sometimes in conversations we have about like schools and stuff like that of people being like oh don't talk to my kids about that like don't tell them what that is I think it's really important for kids to know that I think it can really like
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help them out in situations to be armed with the information of what a good touch is and what a bad touch is even though they are very young and of course it's uncomfortable because you never want to like think that your child would be exposed to that in any way but it's a good conversation to have and I think that's
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Sometimes you really need friends to tell you you're not being petty. And I've been experiencing that this week as well, where I'm like, I'm overreacting. Am I being an asshole? Like, am I nitpicking? Am I being petty? And hearing it from other people like, no, anyone would be annoyed by that is so helpful. Like, come on. He knows what he's doing. You guys bought a house together.
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Yeah. And it sounds like she very much oversimplified it and was like, oh, he said that living conditions were so bad. But when I went, it was clean. So he must have changed. Like, they must have changed. They must be so great now. I can leave my son there. Like, it's just it's it's so dangerous to have someone like that making decisions for a three year old's life. Like, that's very scary. It's.
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absurd to me and also what's so dangerous is her thinking that she knows like just her like over confidence in the issue and her over i don't know just like the fact that she thinks she knows better than him about his own family enough to make that decision it's so weird yeah it's so weird well i hope we get an update from op yeah i'm like this is just
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I mean, the bare minimum is her saying she'll never do it again. And it's unfortunate that we still haven't gotten that from her.
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You were really brave for also how much you had to speak. I know it was a lot of reading. A lot of reading.
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Yeah, if you're comfortable talking about stranger danger and like, hey, don't get in that car, you can have that conversation too, which you should be.
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Born ready to take the trash out. But I am nervous due to like your vibe about some of these stories about what I'm going to hear.
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Like, who are you trying to impress if not your partner? They're dating, right? Or are they married?
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Okay, wait, why does he think it's going to be two to three days of sickness? Does he have any knowledge of the world? Like, there's what? Who has ever only been sick for two to three days because of cancer? And chemotherapy.
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Why? Like, why is that something that you want other people to perceive?
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It sounds like he just in many situations says even if she gives him a task, he just doesn't do it. And then she ends up doing it. So he kind of gets away with it. It's kind of like... Well, it's weaponized incompetence. Oh, 100 percent weaponized incompetence. But even in the situation with cancer, it's like he could say that he's going to be taking up this other work and these other tasks.
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But also he's outsourcing his jobs. But like now she's picking up an extra job for more spending money. But also the spending money is going toward the stuff he used to do. I don't. Yeah. Even without the cancer. And I think it's important to point that out. Like this is not an OK situation.
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And it really shows you like that type of partner, what they're going to be like when things get rough and when like you actually have to show up for somebody. Because he wasn't doing it before. Why would he do it now?
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Not a single mention of him being like worried about her, about him being scared for her, about like, you know, he's not doing this, but he is emotionally been really there for me during this time. Like there's just nothing.
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Yeah, because when he works from home, the kids are at school. So all he has to do is get them ready for school.
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I mean, I think this is a really good example of the sentiment that certain relationships can feel lonelier than actually being alone would feel.
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Well, and it's very tough. It's very tough when you're in that to be like, actually, this is worse. Actually, this is lonelier. Actually, this is more work even like than doing it myself would be. And so I hope the comments just, I hope they eat. I'm sure they do.
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And if he does leave her while she's sick, or even just like... This might be the moment that she realizes and really like instead of just these slowly doing more and more over time, it's like this big moment of like, OK, actually, he does not do shit for this family. He's going to be the one who suffers when they separate. He's going to be the one who has so much more stuff to do.
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She is not going to have any more stuff to do because she's already doing it all. I'm so pissed.
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Yeah, because sometimes the mortgage isn't really that much more than rent would be.
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Which is why sometimes I'm like, if I could just get the money to put down for a house, like making the difference for a mortgage versus rent really wouldn't be a huge deal. Yeah. And it does make you wonder if it really is just on social media that he devalues her contributions and like sort of overhypes his contributions or if this is something that is a general theme in his personality as well.
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Yeah, but I think like even what he was doing before she got cancer shows which type of person he is. Totally agree. And unfortunately, like this is going to be his downfall because once they're separated, he is going to be doing all of the shit that right now she does. And he's going to watch the kids alone. He's going to have to clean the house for himself after he leaves.
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He's going to have to make his own food. He's going to have to make their food when they're there. And you can't do the same kind of weaponized incompetence when it's your own house with no one else to pick up the slack. Like if the trash is getting overfilled, no one else is going to take it out. He's going to have to do it himself.
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He has time for a nap? He has time for a nap? He has... I don't know who else would love to take a nap.
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Because he just keeps taking a little bit more over time and over time. And like, actually now this job is your job. And actually now this job is a landscaping company's job. And actually like now you're getting another job and I'm still not. And like over time, he's just done less and less and less and less. And he's comfortable with that. And it just doesn't get done unless she does it.
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Oh, brother. You want to see these hands? Catch these hands. Catch them. You're lucky other things aren't happening with these hands. That is an insane thing. That honestly feels like what would be a quote on like a TV show that would really piss people off. And I'd be like, all right, they're pushing it. Like who really talks like that?
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Yeah. No, it's like horrible timing. It's going to pay off for the rest of her life to separate from this man and rebuild. But unfortunately, the timing of it happening also when she has cancer and like really could be using that support. It really sucks. But like sometimes... You can go through something really hard and it actually feels like, thank God I'm not still with that person.
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Because even though I'm doing it alone, like doing it with them would have been worse. Because he would have also been giving her little comments like, why aren't you better yet? Like, are you really not going to be doing this? Like, it's the opposite of helpful.
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Mm-hmm. Because that's his designated time. Like she has so many designated times. It sounds like as soon his only designated time is like right before they leave. And then when they get home from school and she's home, it sounds like everything is on her. All he has to do is take care of like a little bit during weekdays when they're not even home. Like he doesn't even have to be watching them.
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Yeah, like how he described it, like, personally over text to them.
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Oh, wow. But in that last comment, she was like, this might have been the wake-up call I needed.
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She's told him, like, this isn't easy for her either. Like, this isn't an ideal scenario for her either. No. And the fact that he thinks that him poking at her and making rude comments is going to help her want to have sex with him more is so stupid. In front of other people, too. In front of other people. Like, it's something very personal. It's something that she's not feeling great about.
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Like there are so many medical situations going on with her right now. Like he started these comments in December. Her surgery was sometime in October. Like she was still healing at that point. She was still going through the hormones of her birth control not working. Like what could possibly possess you to be like making backhanded comments about her going through a medical crisis?
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Yeah. She's not even saying, like, she has a very low libido and this is usually an issue. Like, this is something that's happening because of a very specific reason and... And, like, if this is the love of your life, why would that be what matters most to you? Like, why is that the main thing? Plenty of people all the time go months without having sex. I've gone years. Hey, I've gone years.
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I've been fine. I mean, I'm a different person. But, like, it's not going to kill you. You're not entitled to sex.
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But he's posting on social media about the new house that he bought, which doesn't feel that private to me.
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So I am very curious. Does she ever say like what kind of comments and like jokes he's making? Like, does she ever give an example?
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Her body has got a hole in it. And you want to have sex with her? Let her heal. I just... I don't understand it. And also, being disappointed that you can't have sex with your partner is one thing. And there are normal feelings to that. Of being like, ah, shoot. One element of this horrible situation is that we can't have sex for a bit. Yeah. But like...
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People can find that so easily now. Like even just, yeah, with a reverse Google image search, you don't even have to be talented at finding people and hunting them down. It's insane.
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to take it out on her and to make that the main issue of this like huge physical life event and to, I don't know, make her feel worse when it's already a rough situation. Like, what do you think that's going to do for you?
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i really think some people don't even like their partners i'm like i don't think he likes you yeah i genuinely like i don't think he likes you i think he just found it convenient to have a lot of sex it's like an early version of the last story but like you're just finding it out sooner that this person isn't showing up for you literally and won't and will get worse over time you think they get better over time haven't seen that happen
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Every time in one of these stories, people are like, I was a little petty. Like, you were right. You should have been more petty. You should have doubled down on being petty. Like, what the fuck? If someone's he's never offered to do anything for her in return for five miles every single day for two years.
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And we talked about this on another episode we did where it's like sometimes you do something for your friends and you don't even think about it, but then they won't do something for you in return that makes you realize, like, oh, like, have you never noticed that I do that for you? Like, does that not mean anything? Like...
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obviously you don't do things for other people just so that they notice and like are grateful and do things back but like it still feels nice yeah to be like appreciated also this is one dollar knowledge yeah one dollar and it was borrow it's not like hey can i have a dollar it's like hey can you just spot me like i'm gonna pay you back losing free rides over one dollar it's a dollar so you know how much that uber home is gonna be
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Yeah. And then the value is bound to change over time. So is that in the mathematics of it all? Like will you just get that amount you paid back back? Or like if it changes by $2,000, will you then get that like extra $2,000 back?
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that they they do really stay rich with that mindset like sometimes the people who are the luckiest and have the best situations are the most stingy and like find ways to get so much free stuff from other people without ever helping them in return and the rich stay rich i'll tell you that that's not a world i want to live in i know i mean i don't know his financial situation but i know that kind of person like we went when we got our massages like you bought my little raisin canes and that was really nice you give me stuff all the time but
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Because I think it should feel natural in your mind of like, oh, this person like does stuff for me a lot. I want to do stuff for them, too. Like to never acknowledge that someone does something for you. I don't know. Wouldn't be me. And yeah, why keep doing it? It's like, okay, you haven't acknowledged at all that I'm doing you a favor for two years.
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You fucked up. I hope it stays. I hope it lasts. I do appreciate this being a lighthearted, fun story.
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After two years of giving me rides? Yeah, no one's going to hear that and be like... And I think that that can be a really good way of thinking about things when you're having a conflict with, like, a coworker or a friend or whatever. Like, if this person were to repeat this story to someone else, would it make me look bad? No, it wouldn't because I didn't do anything wrong.
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I don't even understand why this happened. Like, you already had plans. Why would you just be like, actually, I'm going to invite my mom and sister instead? Can't take you, babe. Just do something else with them the next day. Do you believe that he's actually taking his mom and sister? You beg the question.
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And to do it after she's already so excited, like, she found an outfit, she planned it. Yeah. Like, she's put everything in place so that this is the night that she's going to have and is accommodated for this to be the night that you guys were going to have together. Like, it just doesn't make any sense. No. Like, you have all the time in the world.
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It's not like your mom and sister are visiting from somewhere else and it's the only night you can spend with them. Like, you made this plan with your girlfriend.
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Yeah if they were to have gone in completely 50-50 it wouldn't have been so stressful figuring out what would happen.
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Yeah, doing it the day of is crazy. You can so easily in that situation be like, well, I have plans tonight, but now I'll know if it's a good place and I can give you recommendations when we go next week. Like, it doesn't have to be this whole thing where you cancel on her last minute that day. Also, don't you want to hang out with your girlfriend? Yeah, you would think so. You would think.
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During the breakup but like her completely covering that down payment. And then he has. Yeah. I just don't like that. And I don't like so many people on the Internet. And it's like it is a lot of people, but it's also probably mostly just the people he actually knows. Unless this guy's like an influencer, which I don't. It doesn't sound like that's the thing.
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Yeah, I mean, that still would have been a little bit annoying, but it wouldn't have been as bad.
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Yeah. I mean, he doesn't have to cancel on his mom and sister just like he doesn't have to cancel on her. Just like stick to your plans and then it won't be this whole catch up thing.
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So, like, why don't the people in your life know about her if she's serious enough that you're moving in together? You're buying a house together. Yeah. Yeah.
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They live with him? Okay, you gotta be kidding. Like, wait, they live with him? They live with him. Casually dropping that.
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Okay, call me tinfoil hat, call me a little bit crazy, maybe, but it's still suspicious to me. Like, they both fell asleep? Like, I don't know. I think there's still a slight chance. There's another woman. But like, I think you might be onto it. I don't know. It's just like, OK, both of them fell asleep and you had to go with them and they guilted you so hard, even though you live with them.
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And like, if you live with them, wouldn't you just go with them?
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I would just... Wake their asses up. Yeah. I just wouldn't write it off. I would investigate further. Of course, there's still... the more likely chance that that's actually what happened. But it's just very odd. It's so odd to me.
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Sorry, babe. Both of them fell asleep. And like, now I'm just here alone. So I can't show you them on FaceTime.
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And you're the one that's far away. It should be, like, such a priority to see...
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Yeah, he's got his hands full. He doesn't have time for a girlfriend. It sounds like he's already got a very complicated home life to deal with. And he seems to like it that way. I know.
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Yeah, I mean, it's not like the worst thing in the world to do to somebody, but I just also don't think that it can continue like that.
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Just to feel like you're not at all a priority to your partner is, like, that just can't continue.
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Yeah. I mean, it is it is a little sad the first time your child spends Thanksgiving or Christmas with their partner or their partner's family instead of you. Like that is a normal thing to be sad about. But it's also like what's going to happen? Like you're you're not going to get every holiday. You're not going to get every date night. Things change.
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So is it a joke or is it a compliment? Like, is it a joke or is it something that she should take as a compliment because he's contradicting himself when he's explaining it? Like, I didn't mean that, but also you should be happy that that's the case.
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That would be so embarrassing that he would make the post being like, yay, I bought this house. And then if you look at his girlfriend's page, it's like, we bought this house.
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yeah what's what you committed to me my thought like isn't this a commitment and it feels like it also i mean it's like a fucked up comment regardless but i do feel like it also hit home a little bit in the sense that like they have been together three years and there probably haven't been a lot of mentions of a further commitment with marriage on the table i guess
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Well, it's another contradiction because it... Didn't he point her out because she was attractive, but then he said... That it was a compliment for his girlfriend because guys usually sleep with girls they find attractive. So then are you trying to say the girl on TV wasn't attractive? Because that's not what you made it sound like.
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No, it looks like the banana looks like it's jizzing. I know. I looked down and I said, wait a minute. Okay. Damn. They are very fragile. Well, now I can return it. That one extra story, like... Put us over the edge.
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Because it's gross. It's gross that you even have that mindset about women anyway. Like, looking at them on TV and being like, oh, would only sleep with her. Like, first of all, I don't want to hear that in general.
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Yeah. Yeah. Hey, and even if it really is just a joke, it's OK if you don't want to be with someone who makes jokes like that.
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It's OK if that's like something that makes you uncomfortable. You've tried to tell him you don't like it. It hasn't changed. And that's a deal breaker for you. Like even if it's a joke, like you don't have to be OK with that because not everyone makes jokes like that. At your expense. Nope. Hey, what day is trash day?
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We got one of the boxes of croissants at our house, but like we could not. Oh, I give them away. That's, you have to do that because.
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Yeah, it's sort of getting like the best case scenario with this girl because she's comfortable with him not posting her. She's comfortable with paying the majority of things and him like getting the clout for it, I guess, if clout's the word for your friends and family, but.
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Yeah, if you can't see us, we have stress fruit in our hands. Stress fruit. We're squeezing it.
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Like if there's any time you're going to post about your partner, it's when you're posting about buying a new house and you did it together. As a couple. This is literally the time. But that's understandable that you would be like bamboozled by that. I think we've all, I think we've all fallen for things that sound really obvious.
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My ex used photos that I took of him on his Tinder profile while we were together.
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I hope so. I hope. You've never done sound effects, have you? No. Interesting. I could see it. I could see it. I'd love to play an animated animal. Or at a live show. I could see you like having control of like a sound effect thing and really going crazy with it.
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That's the only change. Booze. You do this whole rebranding thing and it's just you added a sound track.
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Yeah. What year was that? At least four years. It's crazy. I think it was like right after COVID lockdown ended. Yeah. Yeah.
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wild time flies yeah time flies you were living in a very different area of la at that time i know we've come so far yeah you have a podcast with your friend ellie i do plug it plug it so people after they hear your takes they can so nice they can know where to find you it's called late night drive with ellie and michaela and it's on the places but of course we prefer spotify hey
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I'm excited to hear them because you've had that like sinister giggle about at least one of them where I like know that, you know, it's good. Yeah. So I'm excited about it. I...
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I mean, it is... So it is the cheater who ruined the family and also in a creepy like predatory way like that was the mom. So the mom is a teacher. I'm just gonna make sure I get these facts right because there's so many people involved in their two story layers here. So Valerie's mom was a teacher. And while her mom was a teacher, she had sex with Valerie's boyfriend who was in high school. Yep.
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Okay, so she's definitely the biggest asshole out of this whole situation. Absolutely. But I also think airing your friend's really personal drama online is a bad thing to do as well. Yeah. And to give updates and sort of just be in the drama of it, of sharing those personal details. Yeah.
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I understand, I guess, if you're not super online, maybe you have a hard time knowing how many people can see things and like how viral things can get. And maybe they've never experienced something going viral, but you're still like airing really, really personal business online. and like engaging it in a way that you didn't need to engage in it.
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And if it were me and I had good intentions originally posting, which I wouldn't do that, but like if I started seeing it blow up, that's probably another point where I'd be like, oh, wow, like this has a lot of views on it. Like I should take this down.
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Right, right. You've once again now told everybody their business. Well, how does that make any sense? Oh, my God. I mean, the other layer of this story is insane, though. Like, how is Valerie doing?
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Yeah. Her relationship with her mother. I don't know how you come back from that.
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Right. That's how they could identify that they were the person who made this post because of other posts they'd made. Yep.
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A lot of cat advice. That's pretty identifying. Like, I understand why Valerie would be like, okay, it's pretty clear it's you based on all this other stuff.
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Wait, okay, so Valerie was still dating this boyfriend and he didn't know that her mom was a teacher who slept with him when he was in high school?
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This original story is crazy. Early relationship, I mean. So on another layer is now her relationship with her boyfriend is fucked up. Yeah. No, she's losing everybody.
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Yeah, that's still like a large age gap as well. Obviously not nearly as consequential as like the difference between 19 and an adult. Yeah. Which is so insane. And also she's dealing with like, my mother is a predator and I can't look at her the same.
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And that age difference is inappropriate as well. So it's, like, double whammy. Inappropriate.
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When did the revelation about why he was ignoring her, it was at the update to that post? So the top comment on that post?
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Reddit was on it. That's crazy. Because I don't think I would have, I don't know what I would have thought if we'd heard that story first.
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I maybe would have thought there was like a weird interaction that took place when I like wasn't looking or something like something weird was said or something like you.
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I wonder, is it possible that the top comments like retroactively got more attention now that people were like, wait, they were right?
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Yeah. Yeah. Do we know if Derek like threw up because he has like had negative like violated type feelings about this woman the whole time or if it was just the stress of like. No mention.
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Which is probably for the best because that wasn't this person's information to share in the first place like.
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That's a crazy thing for someone who isn't her to be saying. Honestly, I missed him typing like gossip girl. Honestly, I miss Derek. But he banged my mom.
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It's ironic. It's like, come on, this was the original problem. Was you oversharing and now you're doing it again?
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Yeah. For people to like care so much about your stories and like what's going on. To be so invested. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's so insane. I'm sure there are other stories that you've read that were instances of people kind of submitting on behalf of someone else. Yeah. And like doing something similar to that.
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Yeah. Yeah, but like people who've gotten away with it maybe. But I wonder how often the actual person finds out because like there's like your podcast or there's like things that go viral on Facebook. Like they reach like different corners. Like there are Instagram accounts that post this story. It's like it reaches all these corners of the internet.
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And I for everything that Valerie was going through, like with her parents, marriage, with her relationship, with her boyfriend, with her relationship, with her mother to then be like, and now my friend is also like sharing these private details online.
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Yeah. It's embarrassing. That's so embarrassing. You don't want people knowing that. No. It's so personal.
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And why does that mean more to you? Like, why do all of these people asking you about a story that's not even yours mean more to you than an actual friend in your real life? I know. Who was leaning on you in this moment. I think that just... In the worst moment of her life.
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Could have still, like... Would have still probably brought it up to him and been like, how do you feel about this whole situation? Because the mom couldn't have been like, don't bring it up to your father, though. It would have come up at some point.
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Like, it could have so easily came out regardless, but... I also doubt it was a one-off with the mom sleeping with one student. Like, come on. Gross.
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Could easily pull out a calculator, but you guys know that there's the gist.
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Even college students look very young to me. Isn't that crazy? When I see videos of frat parties now or sorority recruitment and stuff like that, those are babies. I wouldn't date a 22-year-old. I was on a dating app. I started at, like, 23, and I was like, ooh, that's even cutting it. Like, I mean, I'm 28. That's cutting it close.
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Yeah, I was like, when I see... Yeah, I haven't dated anyone that much younger than me. Only dated people who are older than me.
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I will not sleep with my students. And, like, to be even turned on in that environment is just, like, you have something morally bankrupt inside of you. It's just predatory. You're in a high school environment. Not okay. Like, why is that kid who, like... Their parents are, like, trusting you. Those children are trusting you. Like, you're in this position. Everyone. I don't know.
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I mean, I'm glad that she was found out. But it wasn't because of this guy's post that she was found out.
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It's tough. Bad news. Bears. If someone went on Reddit about like an innocuous story that was someone else's asking for advice on behalf of their friend, do you think it could ever be okay? Or no, because then you would have the friend's permission if it's okay, you know? Even if it's like not as intimate as this story. Yeah. Yeah.
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Like otherwise you would just talk to your friend about it and be like, I'm going to make a post on Reddit and I'm going to ask their opinions. And then they would either say that's okay or that's not okay. And a lot of people do that.
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Yeah, absolutely. You're the asshole, OP. Yeah, and just because another asshole exists in this scenario doesn't mean you're free of becoming an asshole too. Crazy. God. So crazy. Wow, that was a good one, Morgan. I hope so. Yeah, that was a good one.
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Why is everyone, like, dehumanizing her? They're treating her like an object, like just a vessel for, like, giving birth to things. An incubator a little bit? Yeah. I know. Which, like, is already can be an issue with surrogacy. But, like, in this instance, it's really an issue. Like, I... Why are the parents saying that too?
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And then they're also acting like the only reason she doesn't want to do it is like a vain reason. When it's like, no, actually, it's a thing I have to do to my, like I had surgeries. Like it's not just about my looks. Even if it was, it wouldn't matter. Like it's still my choice. It's my body.
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you know an authority on the subject you still can't base other people's actions off of what you would do for them and i feel like that can be the cause of a lot of conflicts of like oh well if i were in this situation i would act this way so if they don't do it that means they're like not as good of a person as i am or they don't care about me as much as i care about them that's just not how humans work like you can't just assume that the same things that you would do is what everyone else would do otherwise they're not as good of a person as you
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Yeah, I mean, it's tough because surrogacy can be a beautiful thing, but sometimes I see, like, the way the Kardashians are using it, and I'm like, that seems... It can be really...
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I'm just shocked that like nobody was on her side. Like even her husband was kind of like unsupportive about it.
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yeah what's no we're fine yeah if they simply asked if they simply asked it it's fine to you know be like think about it or whatever not not the husband but like yeah it's it's just the way they went about it is the worst possible way of going about it like assuming she would do it yeah
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I would assume so, but... And then if she says no, you'd say, well, why do you care so much about how you look? You're so vain. You're 60 years.
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No all kinds of things, yeah. It's very limiting for people. And to not even, yeah, not even to ask, just assume. That's, yeah.
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Okay, so... Because it's different because it doesn't need to be your own eggs. So, like, I guess you could be a surrogate for longer than you could give birth to your own child? That's what I'm gathering here. Wow, I had no idea. I'm learning a lot from this story.
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They might just have to briefly move somewhere that's surrogacy. It sounds like everywhere else in the United States it's legal. In, like, a lot of other places in Europe it's probably legal as well. Yeah.
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Wow. What a crazy story. Yeah. I don't think I would be a surrogate for anybody, even if I like loved them a lot. I love people a lot, but I don't want to do that. And I think that that's a fair choice to be able to make for yourself. So fair.
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Yeah. Maybe there's something there. You're going to come up with something amazing.
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And all of you know that because you're seeing it right now in front of your faces. It's going to be good. But where can people find you? I'm Mikayla, Mikayla Oakland on Instagram. And I have a podcast called Late Night Drive.