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Marie Gluesenkamp Perez

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254 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

Like, don't tell me we need to go to college to be useful and to be self-realized, self-actualization or whatever. Like, we can know things and be in the world in a way that is not strictly capturable by aβ€”or capturable at all by, like, a spreadsheet, right? Yeah.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

Like, don't tell me we need to go to college to be useful and to be self-realized, self-actualization or whatever. Like, we can know things and be in the world in a way that is not strictly capturable by aβ€”or capturable at all by, like, a spreadsheet, right? Yeah.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

Things have moved and shrunk. And you've got like 8% hyper-focused on the left and 8% hyper-focused on the right. And it's like they're talking and they have the mic and like it's leading this. But I think to your point, like, yeah, my community... People in my community, their experience in the economy hasn't changed that much.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

Things have moved and shrunk. And you've got like 8% hyper-focused on the left and 8% hyper-focused on the right. And it's like they're talking and they have the mic and like it's leading this. But I think to your point, like, yeah, my community... People in my community, their experience in the economy hasn't changed that much.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

Like, still can't afford rent or can't get a loan from the bank to get a house. Still working three jobs. Still worried about their truck getting repossessed. Like, people's experience hasn't changed that much. And it's like... It is kind of wild to me to see the same playbook getting picked up again from Trump's first term to today, where it's like reflexive resistance.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

Like, still can't afford rent or can't get a loan from the bank to get a house. Still working three jobs. Still worried about their truck getting repossessed. Like, people's experience hasn't changed that much. And it's like... It is kind of wild to me to see the same playbook getting picked up again from Trump's first term to today, where it's like reflexive resistance.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

And I would argue that the urgency here is... is to have a positive policy agenda that is relevant to more people. If you're somebody that has the ability to go to a protest every day, it is not reflective of the average American experience. And thinking about how do you... How do you build an agenda that is more useful to your neighbors, that is relevant?

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

And I would argue that the urgency here is... is to have a positive policy agenda that is relevant to more people. If you're somebody that has the ability to go to a protest every day, it is not reflective of the average American experience. And thinking about how do you... How do you build an agenda that is more useful to your neighbors, that is relevant?

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

If you want to bring more people, you have to present a policy position that is more popular than the policy positions Trump's proposing. And it's like, I think he has done a good job of amplifying and echoing broad dissatisfaction with the way things are going. And we can't put ourselves in a position of just negating and refuting everything he's said.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

If you want to bring more people, you have to present a policy position that is more popular than the policy positions Trump's proposing. And it's like, I think he has done a good job of amplifying and echoing broad dissatisfaction with the way things are going. And we can't put ourselves in a position of just negating and refuting everything he's said.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

It's about presenting an actual policy agenda that will address those concerns and that rage that people are feeling about their loss of agency in the world. Sometimes there are critiques about like, you know, the world's on fire and she's talking about bananas and washing machines and right to repair.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

It's about presenting an actual policy agenda that will address those concerns and that rage that people are feeling about their loss of agency in the world. Sometimes there are critiques about like, you know, the world's on fire and she's talking about bananas and washing machines and right to repair.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

But like talking to people about the things they care about and fighting for the agenda and priorities of my community, like that is the job of a representative. And you know, it's like I held a lot of round tables with farmers in my community when we were working on the farm bill, and not a damn one of them said antitrust.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

But like talking to people about the things they care about and fighting for the agenda and priorities of my community, like that is the job of a representative. And you know, it's like I held a lot of round tables with farmers in my community when we were working on the farm bill, and not a damn one of them said antitrust.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

But farmer after farmer was telling me that, yeah, I used to be able to sell my chickens to 12 different buyers, and now I can sell them to two. That matters to people. Having a level playing field for their business, having economic self-determination matters to people.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

But farmer after farmer was telling me that, yeah, I used to be able to sell my chickens to 12 different buyers, and now I can sell them to two. That matters to people. Having a level playing field for their business, having economic self-determination matters to people.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

We don't know that they're staying is the other thing. And so just being the anti-Trump.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

We don't know that they're staying is the other thing. And so just being the anti-Trump.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

I think most of us in my community share a lot of those sentiments. When they shut down the paper mills, congratulations, now we're packaging everything in plastic, disposable plastic from Saudi Arabia. And we got wildfires at home because there's no value in the residual, in the slash piles.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

I think most of us in my community share a lot of those sentiments. When they shut down the paper mills, congratulations, now we're packaging everything in plastic, disposable plastic from Saudi Arabia. And we got wildfires at home because there's no value in the residual, in the slash piles.