Marie Gluesenkamp Perez

So I would say the policy position can't just be anti, anti, anti, anti, but saying, all right, what is it going to take to build manufacturing? It's going to take permitting reform. It's going to take some antitrust work. It's going to take shop class and junior high. It's going to take the elite reevaluating and acknowledging the nobility of manufacturing

So I would say the policy position can't just be anti, anti, anti, anti, but saying, all right, what is it going to take to build manufacturing? It's going to take permitting reform. It's going to take some antitrust work. It's going to take shop class and junior high. It's going to take the elite reevaluating and acknowledging the nobility of manufacturing

People in the trades and the reality of like dirty hands, clean money. So I think it would be a mistake to just be like anti, anti, anti. But instead saying, all right, like if this is the thing they're going to do, like how do we harness it in a way that is productive in the long term for having the things that we actually want?

People in the trades and the reality of like dirty hands, clean money. So I think it would be a mistake to just be like anti, anti, anti. But instead saying, all right, like if this is the thing they're going to do, like how do we harness it in a way that is productive in the long term for having the things that we actually want?

Well, I mean, a reevaluation that like there's been this like obsession with technology and the next like whatever lobbyist is in your office, like shilling, you know, triple glazed, argon filled windows and a blindness to the actual skilled trades of like, yeah, you know what? You get a shit ton of you put the long side of your house facing south. You put an eve on it.

Well, I mean, a reevaluation that like there's been this like obsession with technology and the next like whatever lobbyist is in your office, like shilling, you know, triple glazed, argon filled windows and a blindness to the actual skilled trades of like, yeah, you know what? You get a shit ton of you put the long side of your house facing south. You put an eve on it.

If you put a skirt around a mobile home, it's a metal sheet that connects the bottom of the mobile home to the ground, creates an air gap, saves a shit ton of energy. And now those folks, a lot of them on fixed income living in a mobile home, their energy bill just went way down. You don't put a hip and valleys in your roof line. You're going to get a roof that lasts for 50 years.

If you put a skirt around a mobile home, it's a metal sheet that connects the bottom of the mobile home to the ground, creates an air gap, saves a shit ton of energy. And now those folks, a lot of them on fixed income living in a mobile home, their energy bill just went way down. You don't put a hip and valleys in your roof line. You're going to get a roof that lasts for 50 years.

We ignored all of the things that we know in the trades are the kind of low hanging fruit of energy efficiency and utility and a progressive tax system. That's one of the things that bothers me is that it's like, you know, the electric vehicle tax credits, the heat pump tax credits, like those were profoundly regressive tax strategies.

We ignored all of the things that we know in the trades are the kind of low hanging fruit of energy efficiency and utility and a progressive tax system. That's one of the things that bothers me is that it's like, you know, the electric vehicle tax credits, the heat pump tax credits, like those were profoundly regressive tax strategies.

I mean— I've never bought a new car in my life.

I mean— I've never bought a new car in my life.

Yeah. I mean, I think first there's a priority on being a steward, a good steward of what you already have. Like that manifest environmentalism is getting your rig to make it to 500,000 miles. It is making what you have last longer and wanting less.

Yeah. I mean, I think first there's a priority on being a steward, a good steward of what you already have. Like that manifest environmentalism is getting your rig to make it to 500,000 miles. It is making what you have last longer and wanting less.

You know, I think that there's been a lack of pragmatism a bit, like a Tesla Plaid with like a 300 mile radius, like uses 10 times as much battery minerals as it would take to have a hybrid on the road. That's one side of it. I think the other side of it is a selection bias, right? My colleagues and I, we fly a shit ton. We're always on the road. We're always seeing consumer transportation.

You know, I think that there's been a lack of pragmatism a bit, like a Tesla Plaid with like a 300 mile radius, like uses 10 times as much battery minerals as it would take to have a hybrid on the road. That's one side of it. I think the other side of it is a selection bias, right? My colleagues and I, we fly a shit ton. We're always on the road. We're always seeing consumer transportation.

And so that's what gets echoed. But in reality, if you prioritize stationary electrification first, then you're not moving that heavy battery everywhere with you. You're not wearing roads out. So like port infrastructure being electrified, things like that, like that is, I think, a much better bargain.

And so that's what gets echoed. But in reality, if you prioritize stationary electrification first, then you're not moving that heavy battery everywhere with you. You're not wearing roads out. So like port infrastructure being electrified, things like that, like that is, I think, a much better bargain.

That is where things should look first if you're trying to decrease the carbon footprint of the American basket of goods. It's not just like what feels good or what's like a virtue signaling, but like what is the actual absolute value you can get.

That is where things should look first if you're trying to decrease the carbon footprint of the American basket of goods. It's not just like what feels good or what's like a virtue signaling, but like what is the actual absolute value you can get.