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Marie Gluesenkamp Perez

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254 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

Oh, that's great. Like if you want to live in a city like you should live. Yeah. It's also true. Like you could put an apartment building in a rural town and a lot of people would get a lot of utility out of that. But I think one of the things that is missed frequently in this discussion is that like the shift to.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

Oh, that's great. Like if you want to live in a city like you should live. Yeah. It's also true. Like you could put an apartment building in a rural town and a lot of people would get a lot of utility out of that. But I think one of the things that is missed frequently in this discussion is that like the shift to.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

service economy or a knowledge economy means that now your barber has to move to a city where they're not able to afford housing. When you have domestic manufacturing, if you're a mill in a rural community, you're able to own land. You're able to spend time with your family. I'm not trying to like slight the urban issue, but I think it's that divorce from

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

service economy or a knowledge economy means that now your barber has to move to a city where they're not able to afford housing. When you have domestic manufacturing, if you're a mill in a rural community, you're able to own land. You're able to spend time with your family. I'm not trying to like slight the urban issue, but I think it's that divorce from

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

the farms you rely on, from the water that you drink, from being able to ship your garbage somewhere else and not have to smell it yourself. It changes your relationship to the natural world around you. And if you're not clear about that and those relationships, you're losing something necessary.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

the farms you rely on, from the water that you drink, from being able to ship your garbage somewhere else and not have to smell it yourself. It changes your relationship to the natural world around you. And if you're not clear about that and those relationships, you're losing something necessary.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

Yeah, my American, like my mom's side of the family, my dad's from Mexico. My mom's family's been in Washington state for five generations, pre-statehood. And the last time that people in my gene pool were Democrats was when they were blue dog Democrats. That still means something to people. when Blue Dogs were a large caucus, because we were holding seats that we have lost and not regained.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

Yeah, my American, like my mom's side of the family, my dad's from Mexico. My mom's family's been in Washington state for five generations, pre-statehood. And the last time that people in my gene pool were Democrats was when they were blue dog Democrats. That still means something to people. when Blue Dogs were a large caucus, because we were holding seats that we have lost and not regained.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

And so it is a clear urgency of having a gavel and having the ability to govern, but it's also the question of on whose behalf and towards what end. I think having loyalty to your soil and to your community and not something that's been focus grouped in D.C. or that came from a think tank, but what matters to people at home. That is what is fun.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

And so it is a clear urgency of having a gavel and having the ability to govern, but it's also the question of on whose behalf and towards what end. I think having loyalty to your soil and to your community and not something that's been focus grouped in D.C. or that came from a think tank, but what matters to people at home. That is what is fun.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

I don't want to be a mouthpiece for any agenda besides my community because it matters to me. This is where I'm trying to die. It's where I got married. It's where I really try to... Give birth. And like that loyalty and the lens that...

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

I don't want to be a mouthpiece for any agenda besides my community because it matters to me. This is where I'm trying to die. It's where I got married. It's where I really try to... Give birth. And like that loyalty and the lens that...

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

If you can build a political body that is bringing that local lens together, fierce loyalty to the specifics of our community, that is how you build the Venn diagram of what is a useful federal policy. That's, I think, how we break the stranglehold that this duopoly, you know, it's being useful and relevant and building good policy out of the urgent specific realities of our community.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

If you can build a political body that is bringing that local lens together, fierce loyalty to the specifics of our community, that is how you build the Venn diagram of what is a useful federal policy. That's, I think, how we break the stranglehold that this duopoly, you know, it's being useful and relevant and building good policy out of the urgent specific realities of our community.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

I think that, you know, like telling a child that what they're interested in isn't interesting or what they're good at isn't good enough is like deeply toxic. I think that there are a lot of forms of intelligence. I mean, there's millions, you know, and exactly one of them is academic intelligence. And to your point, it's like, well, you know, we're going to shut your mill down.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

I think that, you know, like telling a child that what they're interested in isn't interesting or what they're good at isn't good enough is like deeply toxic. I think that there are a lot of forms of intelligence. I mean, there's millions, you know, and exactly one of them is academic intelligence. And to your point, it's like, well, you know, we're going to shut your mill down.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

We're going to stop harvesting timber. But hey, here's a grant that you could apply for if you're nice to me. Maybe I'll give you money. That's not what people want. People want self-determination agency. And I think it presupposes a hierarchy that's pretty offensive to a lot of people I know that you're going to tell me I have a problem and that you're the one that knows how to fix it.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

We're going to stop harvesting timber. But hey, here's a grant that you could apply for if you're nice to me. Maybe I'll give you money. That's not what people want. People want self-determination agency. And I think it presupposes a hierarchy that's pretty offensive to a lot of people I know that you're going to tell me I have a problem and that you're the one that knows how to fix it.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

It's this masturbatory interest in policy without a reality of implementation or local localism. You can't be all brain and no muscle. They're equally necessary to have a healthy body. And there is also a false dichotomy, like, you know, not everything worth knowing you can learn in a book. Like, we don't all want to go to college.

The Ezra Klein Show
How a Red-District Democrat Is Navigating Trump

It's this masturbatory interest in policy without a reality of implementation or local localism. You can't be all brain and no muscle. They're equally necessary to have a healthy body. And there is also a false dichotomy, like, you know, not everything worth knowing you can learn in a book. Like, we don't all want to go to college.