Jocelyn

Hi, Riley. My name's Jocelyn. I attend this church. I went to the college here. Huge fan of you and the work that you've done, how you've been standing out and also just your faith journey has been really inspiring. My question is for you specifically. And Charlie, you both had said that you guys are on the winning side and we're on the winning side of this trans issue and that it's looking up.

But what are your future plans to continue advocating for women and girls in sports and continue fighting for them?

Hi. Hi, Dave. Hi, George. Thank you for having me on.

I would love to. So just a quick back story. My grandfather's best friend through school, once he graduated and got married, him and his wife needed somewhere to stay. So my great grandparents let them rent a cabin that they had in Gatlinburg for a couple years.

But when they went to move out, my great grandparents then gifted them all that rent money that they had paid just as a gift to jumpstart to life. So fast forward 50 plus years, my grandma's randomly like, hey, I want you to go out to eat and meet somebody. So my family and I, we got to eat and I walk up and I meet this Older man, he's in his mid-80s.

And we sit down and he starts talking about how him and my grandpa were best friends. My grandpa had passed since then. And he's telling me all these stories that they shared. And he ended with, in his honor and because of the friendship they had, he would like to send me to school. So I got to choose any college I wanted to go to.

He would pay for my, yes, he would pay for my tuition, my housing, and also wanted to gift an allowance because he did not want me to work to concentrate on school. And the only requirements he had was that I keep above a 3.0 and that I would meet with him after every semester. And so that's what I would do. I would drive to his house. I'd pick him up. We would go eat.

We would talk about everything. He would, he would, we would talk about my grades, how everything was going. And in 2016, I graduated completely debt free from college. And I would like to add, because he did that for me years later, now my brother is about to graduate in May from college with his engineering degree. And after all his, um,

My parents will actually have put him through school with the help of what he had got from school as well. So he will graduate debt-free.

So all because of what my great-grandparents did. Now, 50-plus years later, my brother and I have both. It came around to us. Wow.

Yeah. Yeah.

I actually, I went to EPSU and I got my bachelor's in mass communication. So public relations and advertising is what my concentration was.

Yes, sir.

It was. Yeah, it was, yeah.

Yes, and I never got to meet my grandfather. He passed when my dad was actually young, so... I believe him and my grandma actually lost the connection there at some point, and they ran into each other randomly and started talking, and that sparked their conversation on, well, do you have grandkids, and that's how I met him.

No, she knew of him. They were best friends, and she knew him. But as far as knowing that rent story, I'm not really sure if she knew that beforehand or not.

Yeah. This is very well done. Since this has happened, he did pass in 2020, but he has a special place in my heart. He really did change my life. and the ripple effect to that, he, he really did make a difference.

Yeah. Then my grandparents just has good faith and he was a great friend. They did that. And here I am.

Uh, so it was, It was something that I will never forget. And, you know, I knew it was a big deal when I was young in my 20s. But as I get older, you know, that those acts of kindness, they mean more and more as you get older. You realize how much of a deal that was.

well during the covert he almost died at the hospital and i asked him um you know the password to pay the bills on his laptop and uh you know he refused to do that and then i had to bring his laptop to the hospital but then after he get better and um he got home and i told her him that you know, I should know our finance.

And just in case if he goes to the hospital again and he said, you know, he'll, he said, I will figure out after he died.

Yes. So we have been living like a housemate and, uh, I take care of the kids and like a married single mom. And, um, he's like a married bachelor total check out. So I don't know what I should do from this point on. And, um, You know, this is my only marriage. And I have, you know, like, I think this is it for me. But then I don't know how to turn this thing around.

It's going to be 19. And I have twins. They are going to be 16. Okay. So, I mean, they are probably getting out of the house.

Well, the problem is I'm the only person who lives in this country, so I think he sees that as I have no support system. So that may be the reason why he can take advantage of my situation, and I have nowhere to go. I mean, and I have been, you know, being a stay-at-home mom for 20 years.

I can talk to anybody, but if they are good listener, but not really, you know, practically could be helpful, you know, like in the deep situation, but I have a lot of friends I could talk to. I mean, they listen to my problem and they understand.

Here's the thing. A lot of times he's very calm and soft, like quiet. Like if he can counter all the problems, he will be quiet. Like, you know, Basically, it's his way that I have to learn to adapt, which I'm very flexible and adaptable, but a lot of time it's like, this is the way. And I mean, maybe he's willing to share the information of the finance.

He's very passive in life. So it's either I am the one who is being the, you know, the lead and plan for everything for the household or nothing get done.

Yeah. Okay. I don't know if I want that either. I don't know because it's, it's to me, I have so much accumulation of the grief, anger, or, you know, like it, it, I don't know. I mean, it's a lot.

the work is on me so it's like constantly so that's what the majority the problem is

Well, actually, my husband and I have been together for 26 years. We have three sons, and he works as a software developer, and I'm a stay-at-home mom for 20 years. And he handled all the monies, and I take care of the kids. So it worked quite well until eight years ago. I kind of expected him to step up for our twin son, but that didn't happen. So I wasn't happy, and then our marriage turned out.

And since then, I no longer allowed to know the household finance. He gave me a credit card to buy food and necessity for the kid and for the family. But I don't know how much he makes anymore. And he doesn't even ask me to sign the tax return filing. So I really don't know what's going on. And I asked him.

Was ist noch? Los geht's. Was ist los, Theo? Hi. Hey, ich habe eine Frage für dich, Theo. Mein Name ist Jocelyn und ich habe einen Sohn hier. Er ist zehn Jahre alt mit Down-Syndrom. Just any advice that you would give to him personally would be much appreciated. And we think you're great. Keep doing what you're doing, bro.