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David Frankel

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We're very old school, very old school on that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We're very old school, very old school on that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We're very old school, very old school on that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So I'll give you the corollary of that, is there've been companies that I've been very down on. And often it's in enterprise SaaS, where just the sales cycle is so long and you go like, are they ever gonna get there? But I remember saying to my wife on Olo, this is done, we've lost a lot. This was pre-Founder Collective saying, we have lost our money. Like no, it is never gonna get there.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So I'll give you the corollary of that, is there've been companies that I've been very down on. And often it's in enterprise SaaS, where just the sales cycle is so long and you go like, are they ever gonna get there? But I remember saying to my wife on Olo, this is done, we've lost a lot. This was pre-Founder Collective saying, we have lost our money. Like no, it is never gonna get there.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So I'll give you the corollary of that, is there've been companies that I've been very down on. And often it's in enterprise SaaS, where just the sales cycle is so long and you go like, are they ever gonna get there? But I remember saying to my wife on Olo, this is done, we've lost a lot. This was pre-Founder Collective saying, we have lost our money. Like no, it is never gonna get there.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Each time this guy gets a little bit of funding, I feel like he's just pulled the rabbit out of the hat. I feel like he's duped the investor. The corollary to that is some of these businesses take a long, long time. And so consumer, I think you get feedback pretty quickly. By the way, Harry, there've been times where I've said, how good is that entrepreneur?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Each time this guy gets a little bit of funding, I feel like he's just pulled the rabbit out of the hat. I feel like he's duped the investor. The corollary to that is some of these businesses take a long, long time. And so consumer, I think you get feedback pretty quickly. By the way, Harry, there've been times where I've said, how good is that entrepreneur?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Each time this guy gets a little bit of funding, I feel like he's just pulled the rabbit out of the hat. I feel like he's duped the investor. The corollary to that is some of these businesses take a long, long time. And so consumer, I think you get feedback pretty quickly. By the way, Harry, there've been times where I've said, how good is that entrepreneur?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And I've started to say, they're not the smartest, they're not the fastest. The velocity of getting stuff done here is very slow. And then something lucky happens. And particularly in a consumer business, you get this fast feedback and then you think they're geniuses. But this is a long, long journey.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And I've started to say, they're not the smartest, they're not the fastest. The velocity of getting stuff done here is very slow. And then something lucky happens. And particularly in a consumer business, you get this fast feedback and then you think they're geniuses. But this is a long, long journey.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And I've started to say, they're not the smartest, they're not the fastest. The velocity of getting stuff done here is very slow. And then something lucky happens. And particularly in a consumer business, you get this fast feedback and then you think they're geniuses. But this is a long, long journey.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We did no reserves in fund one, zero. And then what we found was there was this negative correlation bias. There were these companies that just were not getting there fast enough that needed our help. And we had to break the rules.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We did no reserves in fund one, zero. And then what we found was there was this negative correlation bias. There were these companies that just were not getting there fast enough that needed our help. And we had to break the rules.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We did no reserves in fund one, zero. And then what we found was there was this negative correlation bias. There were these companies that just were not getting there fast enough that needed our help. And we had to break the rules.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

One of the best instances of breaking the rules, Eric, who is the most disciplined investor in our team by far, he's created literally the infrastructure on which we all work. you know, rise. Eric looks at me on Trade Desk and goes, they're out of money if we don't invest here. They're out of money. Eric breaks his own rules so painfully so for him. I'm more opportunistic.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

One of the best instances of breaking the rules, Eric, who is the most disciplined investor in our team by far, he's created literally the infrastructure on which we all work. you know, rise. Eric looks at me on Trade Desk and goes, they're out of money if we don't invest here. They're out of money. Eric breaks his own rules so painfully so for him. I'm more opportunistic.