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David Frankel

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

One of the best instances of breaking the rules, Eric, who is the most disciplined investor in our team by far, he's created literally the infrastructure on which we all work. you know, rise. Eric looks at me on Trade Desk and goes, they're out of money if we don't invest here. They're out of money. Eric breaks his own rules so painfully so for him. I'm more opportunistic.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I go like, if we've got to do it, we've got to do it. I've got goosebumps imagining this company not existing. No reserves in fund one. And Eric invests in Trade Desk as a follow on because nobody else is going to give them money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I go like, if we've got to do it, we've got to do it. I've got goosebumps imagining this company not existing. No reserves in fund one. And Eric invests in Trade Desk as a follow on because nobody else is going to give them money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I go like, if we've got to do it, we've got to do it. I've got goosebumps imagining this company not existing. No reserves in fund one. And Eric invests in Trade Desk as a follow on because nobody else is going to give them money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

It was like somewhere between half a million and a million. Whatever we did, it felt like a lot. In fund two, we created a reserve strategy because, and it was that negative correlation bias that made us do it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

It was like somewhere between half a million and a million. Whatever we did, it felt like a lot. In fund two, we created a reserve strategy because, and it was that negative correlation bias that made us do it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

It was like somewhere between half a million and a million. Whatever we did, it felt like a lot. In fund two, we created a reserve strategy because, and it was that negative correlation bias that made us do it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We went, if we're going to put in like another 50%, we won't lead ever, but if we're going to put in another 50%, like how do we do that only in our companies that like crave and need the money?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We went, if we're going to put in like another 50%, we won't lead ever, but if we're going to put in another 50%, like how do we do that only in our companies that like crave and need the money?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We went, if we're going to put in like another 50%, we won't lead ever, but if we're going to put in another 50%, like how do we do that only in our companies that like crave and need the money?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah. I'll tell you what happened is we put in a reserve strategy where we said we won't fund if it's more than 20 million post. But then what happened is the market just went away with it. That became anachronistic. So you create these rules and then the market moves.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah. I'll tell you what happened is we put in a reserve strategy where we said we won't fund if it's more than 20 million post. But then what happened is the market just went away with it. That became anachronistic. So you create these rules and then the market moves.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah. I'll tell you what happened is we put in a reserve strategy where we said we won't fund if it's more than 20 million post. But then what happened is the market just went away with it. That became anachronistic. So you create these rules and then the market moves.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And in a way, like what you have to do is two years later, you have to try and change those rules altogether again based on what the market's doing. So now today, how does your reserves look? We still have this kind of one-to-one reserve policy, but we actually struggle on our reserves because a lot of the time our good companies- I just don't understand.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And in a way, like what you have to do is two years later, you have to try and change those rules altogether again based on what the market's doing. So now today, how does your reserves look? We still have this kind of one-to-one reserve policy, but we actually struggle on our reserves because a lot of the time our good companies- I just don't understand.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And in a way, like what you have to do is two years later, you have to try and change those rules altogether again based on what the market's doing. So now today, how does your reserves look? We still have this kind of one-to-one reserve policy, but we actually struggle on our reserves because a lot of the time our good companies- I just don't understand.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I'll tell you what happened, Harry. This is how this moves. During COVID, we got very scared. At the beginning of COVID, we went, oh my God, the market's going to close down. We're going to really have to fund our companies. So then we're thinking we've got to, in the first instance, put even fewer funds into our companies. And then what happens is the market just gets awash with capital.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I'll tell you what happened, Harry. This is how this moves. During COVID, we got very scared. At the beginning of COVID, we went, oh my God, the market's going to close down. We're going to really have to fund our companies. So then we're thinking we've got to, in the first instance, put even fewer funds into our companies. And then what happens is the market just gets awash with capital.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I'll tell you what happened, Harry. This is how this moves. During COVID, we got very scared. At the beginning of COVID, we went, oh my God, the market's going to close down. We're going to really have to fund our companies. So then we're thinking we've got to, in the first instance, put even fewer funds into our companies. And then what happens is the market just gets awash with capital.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Everyone's day trading. And of course, we run Raise Fund 4 prematurely. So I would say reserves and how to do the reserve thing is actually one of the most challenging aspects of venture. How to get it perfectly right? Pretty tough.