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David Frankel

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

You know, if I'm writing a 100K check, I've got to be very open to that founder and saying, look, like this is the other side of the spectrum to me being on your board. But if I'm on your board, I can't write a 100K check. I can't write a 500K check anymore because you need my time and you need my interest. And this goes back to alignment.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

You know, if I'm writing a 100K check, I've got to be very open to that founder and saying, look, like this is the other side of the spectrum to me being on your board. But if I'm on your board, I can't write a 100K check. I can't write a 500K check anymore because you need my time and you need my interest. And this goes back to alignment.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And so we've got to be we've got to have some kind of economic alignment. We've got to have some kind of outcome where, you know, you sell the business for 100 million, which is moonshot, as you know. And, you know, you make 50 million, but I make, you know, a million even. What does that mean to a, you know, $85 million fund?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And so we've got to be we've got to have some kind of economic alignment. We've got to have some kind of outcome where, you know, you sell the business for 100 million, which is moonshot, as you know. And, you know, you make 50 million, but I make, you know, a million even. What does that mean to a, you know, $85 million fund?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And so we've got to be we've got to have some kind of economic alignment. We've got to have some kind of outcome where, you know, you sell the business for 100 million, which is moonshot, as you know. And, you know, you make 50 million, but I make, you know, a million even. What does that mean to a, you know, $85 million fund?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I think some founders still see a name in lights and they go, I want that name beyond anything. If it's Sequoia, A16Z, Accel, you name it, I want that name. And I think there will always be a steady supply of founders who think that way.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I think some founders still see a name in lights and they go, I want that name beyond anything. If it's Sequoia, A16Z, Accel, you name it, I want that name. And I think there will always be a steady supply of founders who think that way.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I think some founders still see a name in lights and they go, I want that name beyond anything. If it's Sequoia, A16Z, Accel, you name it, I want that name. And I think there will always be a steady supply of founders who think that way.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I don't think they understand that you're gonna, the one in 10, if you're lucky, and those stats are probably not even right, one in 10 get funded, otherwise you're orphaned or you're in a world of hurt because someone that the world thought was like, very, very serious and very smart about. You just said no to you. Go try sell against that. I think it's very, very difficult.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I don't think they understand that you're gonna, the one in 10, if you're lucky, and those stats are probably not even right, one in 10 get funded, otherwise you're orphaned or you're in a world of hurt because someone that the world thought was like, very, very serious and very smart about. You just said no to you. Go try sell against that. I think it's very, very difficult.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I don't think they understand that you're gonna, the one in 10, if you're lucky, and those stats are probably not even right, one in 10 get funded, otherwise you're orphaned or you're in a world of hurt because someone that the world thought was like, very, very serious and very smart about. You just said no to you. Go try sell against that. I think it's very, very difficult.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

To our earlier point, those founders come back to us and they say, like, I was orphaned. They don't understand that 90% don't get follow on funding.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

To our earlier point, those founders come back to us and they say, like, I was orphaned. They don't understand that 90% don't get follow on funding.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

To our earlier point, those founders come back to us and they say, like, I was orphaned. They don't understand that 90% don't get follow on funding.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

You know, there have been times where we didn't break the rules for the best of reasons. The first thing that comes to mind is like Pinterest. The founders came to us and we had a conflict. We had a very strong associate in Zach Klein, who is the chairman of supply. We'd invested in supply. We couldn't make the investment.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

You know, there have been times where we didn't break the rules for the best of reasons. The first thing that comes to mind is like Pinterest. The founders came to us and we had a conflict. We had a very strong associate in Zach Klein, who is the chairman of supply. We'd invested in supply. We couldn't make the investment.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

You know, there have been times where we didn't break the rules for the best of reasons. The first thing that comes to mind is like Pinterest. The founders came to us and we had a conflict. We had a very strong associate in Zach Klein, who is the chairman of supply. We'd invested in supply. We couldn't make the investment.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I look back and then I go like, how, you know, if you look at that outcome, you go like, how could we have, but we didn't break the rules. And I think there's like financial rules. And then I think there are rules of like loyalty and partnership where you go, that's my name on the door. And I cannot break, those are just unbreakable rules.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I look back and then I go like, how, you know, if you look at that outcome, you go like, how could we have, but we didn't break the rules. And I think there's like financial rules. And then I think there are rules of like loyalty and partnership where you go, that's my name on the door. And I cannot break, those are just unbreakable rules.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I look back and then I go like, how, you know, if you look at that outcome, you go like, how could we have, but we didn't break the rules. And I think there's like financial rules. And then I think there are rules of like loyalty and partnership where you go, that's my name on the door. And I cannot break, those are just unbreakable rules.