Dave Davies

Right. I think Paul Danz used this phrase, people who figured it would be given blood for the movement. That's to say they've paid a price. They've been canceled online or punished in some way for their beliefs. Exactly. Yeah. So they established a lot of training for these folks. And you can see on the website some of the main topics. What did this training consist of?

Right. I think Paul Danz used this phrase, people who figured it would be given blood for the movement. That's to say they've paid a price. They've been canceled online or punished in some way for their beliefs. Exactly. Yeah. So they established a lot of training for these folks. And you can see on the website some of the main topics. What did this training consist of?

These were online videos in the main, right?

These were online videos in the main, right?

These were online videos in the main, right?

Did you get to look at any of these?

Did you get to look at any of these?

Did you get to look at any of these?

You know, it's interesting that the authors of Project 2025 couch it as a defense of the Constitution. And they say that Congress has abdicated too much power to the executive branch, which I think would surprise a lot of people because I think what they see Trump is doing is expanding executive power. Is there a contradiction here?

You know, it's interesting that the authors of Project 2025 couch it as a defense of the Constitution. And they say that Congress has abdicated too much power to the executive branch, which I think would surprise a lot of people because I think what they see Trump is doing is expanding executive power. Is there a contradiction here?

You know, it's interesting that the authors of Project 2025 couch it as a defense of the Constitution. And they say that Congress has abdicated too much power to the executive branch, which I think would surprise a lot of people because I think what they see Trump is doing is expanding executive power. Is there a contradiction here?

Right. Well, I guess the question is which president is in power. One of the things that they advocate is use of impoundment. This is a term some people will know to explain this.

Right. Well, I guess the question is which president is in power. One of the things that they advocate is use of impoundment. This is a term some people will know to explain this.

Right. Well, I guess the question is which president is in power. One of the things that they advocate is use of impoundment. This is a term some people will know to explain this.

Another expansion of presidential power that is conceived of in the plan and I guess in the reality we've seen so far in the Trump administration is treating the Justice Department and the FBI not really as independent investigative and prosecuting agencies but as tools of the president's will. That's explicit in Project 2025? It is.

Another expansion of presidential power that is conceived of in the plan and I guess in the reality we've seen so far in the Trump administration is treating the Justice Department and the FBI not really as independent investigative and prosecuting agencies but as tools of the president's will. That's explicit in Project 2025? It is.

Another expansion of presidential power that is conceived of in the plan and I guess in the reality we've seen so far in the Trump administration is treating the Justice Department and the FBI not really as independent investigative and prosecuting agencies but as tools of the president's will. That's explicit in Project 2025? It is.

There's also the matter of civil servants and the government. Civil service is an institution that's close to 100 – I guess more than 100 years old, right? More than 100 years old. The idea being that you want people to be hired not for their political connections but for their qualifications and that they're –

There's also the matter of civil servants and the government. Civil service is an institution that's close to 100 – I guess more than 100 years old, right? More than 100 years old. The idea being that you want people to be hired not for their political connections but for their qualifications and that they're –

There's also the matter of civil servants and the government. Civil service is an institution that's close to 100 – I guess more than 100 years old, right? More than 100 years old. The idea being that you want people to be hired not for their political connections but for their qualifications and that they're –