Dave Davies

And then there's Russell Vogt.

And he sort of openly embraces the notion of Christian nationalism.

And he sort of openly embraces the notion of Christian nationalism.

And he sort of openly embraces the notion of Christian nationalism.

You know, a lot of our listeners I'm sure have heard of Project 2025. A lot of people have. And I think it's thought of as a policy document with ideas that they hoped Trump would embrace. And it is that. But it's not just that. It was an organization. I mean the project wasn't just a document. It was an organization with a lot of people.

You know, a lot of our listeners I'm sure have heard of Project 2025. A lot of people have. And I think it's thought of as a policy document with ideas that they hoped Trump would embrace. And it is that. But it's not just that. It was an organization. I mean the project wasn't just a document. It was an organization with a lot of people.

You know, a lot of our listeners I'm sure have heard of Project 2025. A lot of people have. And I think it's thought of as a policy document with ideas that they hoped Trump would embrace. And it is that. But it's not just that. It was an organization. I mean the project wasn't just a document. It was an organization with a lot of people.

And part of it was a personnel recruitment and training operation. And I gather that's because a lot of the people running this project, some of them had served in Trump's first term and felt it was not effective because it was undermined by those running the government, both career civil servants and even some political appointees.

And part of it was a personnel recruitment and training operation. And I gather that's because a lot of the people running this project, some of them had served in Trump's first term and felt it was not effective because it was undermined by those running the government, both career civil servants and even some political appointees.

And part of it was a personnel recruitment and training operation. And I gather that's because a lot of the people running this project, some of them had served in Trump's first term and felt it was not effective because it was undermined by those running the government, both career civil servants and even some political appointees.

What were their complaints about those they saw who failed to implement Trump's agenda?

What were their complaints about those they saw who failed to implement Trump's agenda?

What were their complaints about those they saw who failed to implement Trump's agenda?

That's one of the organizers of this thing. Yeah, go ahead.

That's one of the organizers of this thing. Yeah, go ahead.

That's one of the organizers of this thing. Yeah, go ahead.

Right. So they developed a list of as many as 10,000 people who they thought would be good candidates for working in the second Trump administration. What kind of folks were these?

Right. So they developed a list of as many as 10,000 people who they thought would be good candidates for working in the second Trump administration. What kind of folks were these?

Right. So they developed a list of as many as 10,000 people who they thought would be good candidates for working in the second Trump administration. What kind of folks were these?

Right. I think Paul Danz used this phrase, people who figured it would be given blood for the movement. That's to say they've paid a price. They've been canceled online or punished in some way for their beliefs. Exactly. Yeah. So they established a lot of training for these folks. And you can see on the website some of the main topics. What did this training consist of?