Dave Davies

His coverage of the 2020 presidential election won the 2021 Toner Prize for Excellence in National Political Reporting. He previously reported for Newsweek, The Daily Beast, The Wall Street Journal, and other publications. His new book is The Project, How Project 2025 is Reshaping America. Well, David Graham, welcome to Fresh Air. Oh, thank you for having me.

His coverage of the 2020 presidential election won the 2021 Toner Prize for Excellence in National Political Reporting. He previously reported for Newsweek, The Daily Beast, The Wall Street Journal, and other publications. His new book is The Project, How Project 2025 is Reshaping America. Well, David Graham, welcome to Fresh Air. Oh, thank you for having me.

His coverage of the 2020 presidential election won the 2021 Toner Prize for Excellence in National Political Reporting. He previously reported for Newsweek, The Daily Beast, The Wall Street Journal, and other publications. His new book is The Project, How Project 2025 is Reshaping America. Well, David Graham, welcome to Fresh Air. Oh, thank you for having me.

I want to begin by sort of what drove this project. I mean, this was years in the making, well in advance of the 2024 election. And there was a sense of emergency in those who were – getting this project going. I think Russell Vogt said that we are in the last stages of a complete Marxist takeover of the country. The stakes were really high here for these people, weren't they?

I want to begin by sort of what drove this project. I mean, this was years in the making, well in advance of the 2024 election. And there was a sense of emergency in those who were – getting this project going. I think Russell Vogt said that we are in the last stages of a complete Marxist takeover of the country. The stakes were really high here for these people, weren't they?

I want to begin by sort of what drove this project. I mean, this was years in the making, well in advance of the 2024 election. And there was a sense of emergency in those who were – getting this project going. I think Russell Vogt said that we are in the last stages of a complete Marxist takeover of the country. The stakes were really high here for these people, weren't they?

You know, you said an article in 2016 in the Claremont Review of Books. It was anonymous at the time, although the author was later revealed called The Flight 93 Election. What was the message here?

You know, you said an article in 2016 in the Claremont Review of Books. It was anonymous at the time, although the author was later revealed called The Flight 93 Election. What was the message here?

You know, you said an article in 2016 in the Claremont Review of Books. It was anonymous at the time, although the author was later revealed called The Flight 93 Election. What was the message here?

Wow. Now, the main document that was presented was called Mandate for Leadership, which is actually kind of a reboot of a 1980 Reagan-era document, I guess. You say that this is a disorienting read. Why?

Wow. Now, the main document that was presented was called Mandate for Leadership, which is actually kind of a reboot of a 1980 Reagan-era document, I guess. You say that this is a disorienting read. Why?

Wow. Now, the main document that was presented was called Mandate for Leadership, which is actually kind of a reboot of a 1980 Reagan-era document, I guess. You say that this is a disorienting read. Why?

Right, right. You can find it online, 30 chapters on every government agency from the Commerce Department to the intelligent community and so on. You write that one prong of this Project 2025, a playbook for the first six months of the administration, was never made public. Still not public?

Right, right. You can find it online, 30 chapters on every government agency from the Commerce Department to the intelligent community and so on. You write that one prong of this Project 2025, a playbook for the first six months of the administration, was never made public. Still not public?

Right, right. You can find it online, 30 chapters on every government agency from the Commerce Department to the intelligent community and so on. You write that one prong of this Project 2025, a playbook for the first six months of the administration, was never made public. Still not public?

There were a few major players that really organized this project. Do you want to just mention two or three and tell us who they are?

There were a few major players that really organized this project. Do you want to just mention two or three and tell us who they are?

There were a few major players that really organized this project. Do you want to just mention two or three and tell us who they are?

And then there's Russell Vogt.

And then there's Russell Vogt.