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Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

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I know a seat on the side. Disgusting. Disgusting that this is the most important sports podcast you're going to do all year. And how many minutes of NBA wholeness did you air before me? Yeah, I know. Yeah, but you put the Lucas stuff before me, didn't you?

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

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You're like the second guest. Son of a bitch.

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Paul versus Peter

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It's just, you know, your league is back. You could go back to 17 minute quarters and a hundred games in the regular season. It's good. We kept 12 minute quarters. We're good. Yeah. That's what happened. Silver's like, Hey man, we got to, we're thinking of changing the size of the court and the, and how much time is in each quarter.

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Paul versus Peter

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Can we just do something to make Boston, New York and LA great over the next three years? Come on, Dallas. Can you step up here?

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Paul versus Peter

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The good news is, though, I will say your trade machine and trade thoughts, which I thought a lot of times were nonsense, like when week seven, when we had to do 10 minutes on Giannis to the Nets, and I was like, okay, good. But now people should listen to you because nothing is too ludicrous. There's not one trade that could be too crazy to pass muster here.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yes, I think so. I think you and I will give our official picks who's going to win towards the end of the week. I did notice that I don't need two weeks. I don't... Let's get to the part where I'm depressed already. Like, I don't have to be depressed about being depressed, right? So... I don't like this extra week in between. It makes me analysis leads to paralysis.

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Paul versus Peter

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It was like a lot of ways to determine how old we are. Like, Oh, Babe Ruth won the home run title closer to when we were born than today, you know, and that sucks. And is that you and I'll send something. Oh yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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Three's company premiered 48 years ago. It all sucks. But I was thinking today, I was like, We at most have 30 more Super Bowls left, if we're lucky. Like, I take care of myself. You don't, you know, you're going to start doing cocaine when you're 60, so that's a problem.

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

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But there's going to be 1,000 more Super Bowls, and we're only going to see 30. That's disgusting to me. That really made me feel sick. So join in on that.

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Paul versus Peter

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Right. At least. Can you say both those things? I know most people, like Raheem has a model, and most people have models, might even have the Eagles by three at this point. But can you also say, but I think it's going to be a close game? Because if you're going to lean model and Eagles... And you think it's going to be a close game. How dare you go against Mahomes in a close game.

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

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So you're taking the Eagles. That's okay.

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Paul versus Peter

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By the way, I'm going to pretend to get texts from NFL GMs during this pod. I felt that was very effective with Rosillo last night with the NBA guy.

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Paul versus Peter

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But I would disregard the line because I do have facts here. In the first 58 Super Bowls, only seven times as a favorite won and not covered. It happened with the Rams, Bengals most recently. It happened twice in the last 17 years. So take KC minus one and a half or take Philly Moneyline. You'll probably be okay, right?

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

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Yeah. So that's what I'll say about that. But I think you're right. It might be off, but I also think it doesn't matter because of that fact.

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Paul versus Peter

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We willed it into existence.

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Paul versus Peter

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Right. They actually didn't even exist. Like first touchdown? What? What are these guys talking about? We started everything. You couldn't find it. You couldn't even bet it. So eventually we forced the books to actually come up with these.

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Paul versus Peter

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That was a great find when you could, you had a sort of, the internet wasn't what it is now. And if you could find a PDF where you could print all the props. Right. And it would send your printer into a tizzy, you know, it'd be like 25 pages.

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Paul versus Peter

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I didn't look at it that way. That is good. And I was thinking though, so we have to get in their heads, right? Is there Mahomes fatigue if the Chiefs win for MVP? Like he didn't have a great game against Philly. No. Against Philly. No, the last game. So he stayed under 200 yards, but had three touchdowns and they had to give it to him. Right. So I'm

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

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I'm trying to write a script for how Mahomes doesn't get MVP if the Chiefs win. Is it Kelsey announces Thursday that he's going to retire after this game and he gets two touchdowns?

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Paul versus Peter

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You talk about how like long, how come such a far way. However you say that we, uh, you could live bet the MVP, right? And remember like Kadarius, Tony was like a punchline. Now he had like a big game. He had a big punt return and a touchdown. Like, Oh man. But my homes was still favored. I remember looking at that. Like, you know, so there's something to look at that. I think we,

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Paul versus Peter

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Choosing between Barkley and Hertz is really tough if you're taking the Eagles. I might just rather take the Eagles. I did look at defensive MVP as plus 1,500. Once the game gets to the 40s, you're kind of cooked. But nine out of 57 defensive players have won. And so that's like one out of six or one out of seven. And you're getting 15 to one. It's not bad.

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Paul versus Peter

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20 for 27 for 255 he probably has one long run of like a 40 yard run maybe he's like seven for 52 running and he's just it's something like that right i think you're right but plus it's barkley's birthday you know on the super bowl so i don't know how much that factors in yeah turns 28 is that what it is and plus if it's plus 280 and he turns 28 am i wrong to say he's 28 that's uh yeah

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

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That's pretty good numbers. But I think you're right. I don't know if Hurts getting the touchdowns on the tush push, if he gets like three of those and puts up good yards, if that's going to put him over the top. But it's been Barkley's year. I think that's probably the case for Barkley. Yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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It's pretty good. Yeah. I was looking at, you said Barkley two plus touchdowns is plus 270. So that's the same. No, it's plus 280. Yeah. So that's the same odds as his MVP, right? Right. So you just take that instead. That's interesting. I think I might want to take that instead. I don't think there's a game where he's stuck on one touchdown.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, well, it's funny. Actually, this one was just texted me from Les Snead of the Rams, GM. He said, Kelsey, 25 or more receiving yards in each half. is a good number there. So that happened already this year. And if that... What's the odds on that? It's like plus 220 or something.

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Paul versus Peter

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Oh, all right. Yeah, yeah. So it's 307 yards over the last three Super Bowls. So I kind of like that. And that already hit against the Texans this year.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, we go crazy about it on the ring of pregame show. And I don't know if there's like a million props, so they'll throw in one you can win on automatically there. But it's so easy there. It's minus 110 or right in there. 10 of the last 13 games, he scored a touchdown. So why should that be almost even odds? And they have a play designed for it. So it's almost suspicious.

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

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Here's another one that goes along with it. shortest touchdown under minus one, under one and a half yards. We used to love this one. Oh, wow. We bet that a bunch of times.

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Paul versus Peter

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So the VIG is a little high. It's minus 172, but we loved it before the tush push. And now it's like, You know, he did it twice last matchup, twice first San Francisco, first time four to the five in the Super Bowl, seven of the last nine Super Bowls have seen shortest touchdown under one and a half yards.

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Paul versus Peter

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It's minus 172. It's not great. So you might just want to take Hertz for the touchdown minus 110. But for seven of the last nine Super Bowls, it didn't hit last year, so that's why I like it especially now.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, I like that a lot. I mean, I love Spagnuolo's defense, but it does, you know, it takes a minute to settle in sometimes. I think you could break a tackle or something in there. That's a good one.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, so I think you have to script it out in your head, right? Because for a lot of these last games, he was winning with 154 yards passing. Yeah. And then last week, he kind of surprised us. He's like throwing on third and six. Like, what are you doing? You have a fourth and one play that never fails. Why are you throwing on third and six? Right. And he would complete it. Devonta Smith and A.J.

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Paul versus Peter

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Brown, they had big games. So... what do you feel? Do you feel like they're going to play catch up? If you feel like they're going to have to play catch up at some point or that, Hey, it's a super bowl. Just scoring just gets out of hand.

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Paul versus Peter

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Uh, then I think you go over, but otherwise if you're a pro Barkley on everything, I mean, his three plus touchdowns hurts is 36 to one Barkley's three plus touchdowns is 15 to one. So you can have fun with those too.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, I also like Saquon or Hurts to have two or more touchdowns at plus 170. I was like banging my head against the desk trying to figure out which of these two is going to get two or more. And then Fandel has a spot for it where either they have like an either or guy thing. Saquon or Hurts, two plus touchdowns, plus 170 touchdowns. You're almost definitely.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah. You're going to be one away at halftime, right?

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Paul versus Peter

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I like Devontae Smith. I think they have... For Eagles, not too much. Like 70-plus for him is plus 205. 80-plus is plus 320. So if you get that long play in there and you think it's going to be him... We haven't done Chiefs yet, right? You're going in order of the... Yeah, okay. Yeah, so that's really it. And I also... Kicker prop here, Elliott over seven and a half.

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Paul versus Peter

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Like you think to yourself, oh, this team's always going on fourth and one. They don't have, you know, they're not going to kick. He's gone seven straight games where he's got had seven and a half or more points. And he had nine in the Super Bowl. So the tush push doesn't really factor into like their scoring chances with Jake Elliott.

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Paul versus Peter

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It's just even odds.

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Paul versus Peter

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And Neal's help you with the carries, yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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I like that a lot. Yeah, he infamously went under in yards when he had that eclipse, right, against San Francisco in the Super Bowl when he started taking kneels. I like, much like you do, it hurts. I like over 11 and a half longest rush for Mahomes. He's hit this in four of his last five games, averaging 13 for a longest over that stretch. So, yeah, I mean, I think that's how you play Mahomes.

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

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Maybe do both of them. Yeah, I'd be a little nervous about the actual yardage, but...

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Paul versus Peter

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He's also, there's a, there's a stat for him or a bet for him under one and under two and a half sacks that he takes. He's hit this in four of his last five, you know, I mean, he knows when to take off. He's just the smartest there is.

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, he's their tush push, right? He's a wrecking ball at the one or two yard line. So they give it to him. He goes in. Pacheco, I would only take his receiving props. I don't think they trust him. I don't trust him as a running back. Over four and a half longest reception for Pacheco. He's hit 13 of the last 17. He averages like nine over that stretch. But let me... Let me throw this by you.

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Paul versus Peter

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I'm putting a little on Mahomes for first touchdown at 18-1. I know because he got injured, they don't do the tush push. A little talk about play, it should be spoken about more, is when he rushed to the line of scrimmage against Buffalo and did that end around, basically that bootleg to get the first down. I think Andy Reid wants to have an FU moment here.

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Paul versus Peter

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whether it's a Philly special or something, I think I could see him wanting Mahomes to score from the one. I don't know if it's early on or late in the game, but you might get a sneak. I mean, I don't know why. Is he more likely to get injured? I know he got injured on the sneak years ago, but...

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Paul versus Peter

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I did. It's going to come down to like a stupid replay because Mahomes, you might get Piran, but it could be just like a little flip play where it counts as a pass.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, I'm torn here because maybe they stole enough money from us in the AFC championship game because we all bet Kelsey props, right? So maybe that's okay. So maybe he comes back. And we know I gave you his Super Bowl numbers, right? Like 307, I think, in three games. But there's another way to do this.

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Paul versus Peter

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I'm looking at Noah Gray for a long of 10 or more yards because the Eagles weren't great against the tight ends, right? Like, what was it? It was Zach Ertz went for 110. They have like 10 catches or something last week. Something crazy. Noah Gray's 10 or more for a long. He's hitting 12 of the last 17. So that could be.

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Paul versus Peter

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I mean, it's just even, even up. But, you know, that could be something that. That's a good one.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah. I think the yards is just tough with him.

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Paul versus Peter

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I had this written down. I mean, they've gotten a four-down conversion in every playoff game this year, both teams. So that's 5-0, and they're 70% plus on the year, and that's top three in the league. So, great.

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Paul versus Peter

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You know, that's what I do.

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Paul versus Peter

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You know, I looked at it and it felt like it, but it's not the case.

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Paul versus Peter

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No, it's not. I tested that. Yeah, I mean, look at the scores. They're all like 20, you know. I think you need a kicker probably to miss at some point and some weird shit to happen. But are you looking for four bowl teams or one team? You said one team converts?

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah. All right. So I think you need like five touchdowns. And one of them is a two-point conversion.

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Paul versus Peter

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I did write that down. Yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah. I had Dijon over or Dijon over one and a half assists. He's hit this in five straight and had Quinnian Mitchell under a half of assist. He's five out of six. If you go, Under there. By the way, I did have, sorry, Kelsey. This could be a good Kelsey one. Oh, Kelsey first catch for Kansas City, plus 230. Last two Super Bowls, he's had the first catch. What was it, plus 230? Plus 230.

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Paul versus Peter

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Last two Super Bowls, he had a one-yard catch and a 20-yard catch.

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Paul versus Peter

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I like that. When they're switching in centers during the game and that means you can't really double team a Chris Jones. So it's pretty good. I'll have more to say about that. A bigger moment. But yes, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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Let's do it. Any quarter to end 0-0 plus 3-10. This has happened 25% of the games, like 14 times. I think for the last nine, the first quarter's ended 0-0. I love the zeros everywhere. You can go on FanDuel and buy your squares now, right?

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Paul versus Peter

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You don't have to get stuck with two five at some shitty Super Bowl party and pretend you have a chance and do the math all day with a girl who's selling Girl Scout cookies. Someone's great niece ends up winning it without paying attention anymore.

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Paul versus Peter

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They haven't looked at the screen at once. So I love that, that you could buy your own squares. KC7-0 is plus 650. Philly 7-0 first quarter is plus 650. I'd take a chance on those. Plus 650? Yeah, for first quarter. Is there a 7-3? Of course. Yeah. Seven, three zeros. Mix them all up. Have some fun. There's one.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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Do it up. I would think you would like this. The triple crown bets. These are like the anchor bets you were doing, right?

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Paul versus Peter

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But if you anchor the two, if you could be at peace with the fact that Mahomes is going to have more passing yards... Not a certainty, but just live with it. And Barkley could be the rushing yard leader. Then put Worthy in. Then put A.J. Brown in. Then put Devontae Smith in. You can have a nice little three or four bets there.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah. I'm saying that for everything, man.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, exactly.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, we're good.

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Paul versus Peter

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Luka first Ozempic shot plus 160 on Monday. I don't know how that happened.

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Paul versus Peter

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He's going to be like the Jonah Hill after. This is going to be such a practical joke.

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Paul versus Peter

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Not me, but yeah, him, yeah. Shit, yeah. All right, we got to do the Sal special. Eagles first half. Chiefs game, plus 750. It hit the last two years. Chiefs were trailing at halftime against the Niners. What a great one. Yeah, and the Eagles. So plus 750. And if you want to go the other way, Chiefs first half, Eagles game, plus 800. So a tie does not help you at half.

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Paul versus Peter

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Thank you. Thank you. Both teams complete the first pass, minus 120. This one I got from GM John Schneider just texted me for the Seattle Seahawks.

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Paul versus Peter

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This has hit four in a row. All four, five, six one-yard passes. These guys don't screw around. I don't know. I don't see them going for the home run ball early on, right?

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Paul versus Peter

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Let's keep the clock moving. Confidence builder. Only minus 120. I really like that one. Not great, but still. Exact scores. This is fun, too. KC to score exactly 30 is 17 to 1. 27 is 11 to 1. 24 is 10 to 1. Five times this year, it's hit on those three numbers. For the Eagles, 28, 27, and 26. You got 22 to 1, 11 to 1, 23 to 1. Five times those numbers have hit. Live it up, man. Live it up.

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Paul versus Peter

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Let's see. What else do I want to do? Oh, here's something interesting. So they have the playoff leaders, right? Yeah. Up until like wild card.

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Paul versus Peter

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Deami Brown. Yeah. 229 yards. He's plus 360. Yeah. I think he could hold on. I think this is where he shines. I think he shines next Sunday by not being in the game. Goddard has 188. So if you don't think Goddard will have 46, you're good there. Kelsey has 136. He would need, you know, 90 something. And Worthy has 130. I just think plus 360 for the leader at this point.

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Paul versus Peter

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Might be a decent way to go.

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Paul versus Peter

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See, you're smarter than I am with that.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, well, if you think that 60-yard of the worthy is coming, maybe that's the way to do it. All right. Braden Mann, Eagles punter, under 55-and-a-half longest punt, only over 55 four times all regular season. Who knows if he'll even punt, right? He had two against Washington as long as 43.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, I got that from Questia Dofo Mensa, the Vikings GM. Send me that one.

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Paul versus Peter

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Oh, really?

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah. It is a lot. All right. Jersey number for the first touchdown. Over 15 and a half. You lose the quarterbacks, but you get almost every defensive player. You get Barkley. You get Goddard. You get Kelsey. You get Hunt. You get Peyton Hender shot. I love it. Over 15 and a half. Even odds for that. Even odds? Yeah, well, they have to have a number. They put it right at the Kelsey line there, 15.

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Paul versus Peter

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No, Hertz is under, both quarterbacks, yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yes. He's number six. And probably A.J.

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Paul versus Peter

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Brown's number 11. I just like having Barkley and Kelsey for almost the evening. And Noah Gray. Yeah, and my guy Noah Gray. All right, let's see. What else do we have here? They have next-gen... Yeah. Did you see, I don't even know how they would do this because worthy to register fastest is plus two 85 and he is the fastest, but so what if it's like an eight yard catch?

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Paul versus Peter

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Do they really just measure how fast it wouldn't be able to get speed probably in that spot. So you're, you're basically betting that he's going to have the longest play at plus two 85.

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Paul versus Peter

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I mean, it's crazy. Imagine Jimmy the Greek looking at this like you could have worthy at 18 and a half miles per hour. Like that's minus 172 to do that. Jimmy the Greek would probably end up saying something racist about the bet and make him very uncomfortable. Position first touchdown. What would you say? Which would you go with?

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Paul versus Peter

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Tight end's plus 420. It's not bad. That's what I was looking at there. Yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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Right? I think it's still 420. You know, we were talking about the FU moment for Reed against the Eagles. I know he's playing ready. Any quarterback to receive a touchdown, 70-1. Alignment to score, 18-1. A quarterback, either quarterback catches a pass is 21-1. That's pretty good. I know these things don't happen a ton, but this is it.

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Paul versus Peter

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This is your last chance to use the trick play for the year, right? Yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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Right. Yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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Right, right. Then you get the stupid stuff. I mean, I'm going purple Gatorade. It's gone down already. It was plus 240. Oh, there's been action. You could bet it on Fandle now, which is a freaking miracle. Purple's down to two to one. It was purple the last two years. The Chiefs won the last two years. It was purple. Why would they screw with a good thing?

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Paul versus Peter

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Purple has a chance to catch orange as the high. Orange is five. Purple is four of all the Super Bowls. You know, we've got the Kobe thing. It's been five years since Kobe's gone. You could go purple there if you're the Eagles. You know, I think I just also let's just talk about Kendrick Lamar has like an Easter thing going. Maybe it's in his rider that there has to be purple Gatorade.

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Paul versus Peter

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I don't know. Purple two to one seems like a good.

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Paul versus Peter

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Oh, yeah, that's the other thing. Yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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Listen, no one was more surprised than LeBron. He found out, what was he getting? Like a bacon-wrapped hot dog in New York after the Knicks game? He had nothing to do with this at all.

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Paul versus Peter

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Completely shocked. I'd like to see Big Dom get involved in this Gatorade scandal. Doesn't this seem like something like Big Dom switches it out and some mobsters hit big on this prop? I think that's how this one's going down. John Batiste Anthem. This one you might not be able to find, Vandal. 120 and a half seconds. He did a minute 35, which is 95 seconds at the NBA All-Star Game in 2017.

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Paul versus Peter

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Does he show off 30 seconds worth? How many? 120 seconds? That seems like a lot. It's two minutes. So it's been under two minutes in five of the last six years.

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Paul versus Peter

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What can I, who can I trust? Come on, Nick. Nick's patting his son on the head right now.

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Paul versus Peter

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Did it again. Well, I'm trying to figure out. Oh, two or more diss tracks from Kendrick Lamar regarding Drake. His minus 400. Wow. Well, he's definitely playing Not Like Us.

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Paul versus Peter

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right so then they would have to maybe does a medley count what if it's a medley with like four songs in it yeah they have to because everything's a medley now they don't really stop down for new songs and then there's dumb shit there's Taylor Swift to announce pregnancy during or after Super Bowl 16 to 1 will he propose Travis after at 8 to 1 we might just have to do that so you don't throw up again can we talk about the proposal because why is that still lingering in such a real way

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Paul versus Peter

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Right, and he didn't go to the Grammys, which is going on right now.

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Paul versus Peter

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Right.

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Paul versus Peter

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The Chiefs are going to try harder if they know he has plans to propose. I don't know. It gets so confusing. Probably not. Do you know Metro Boomin'? What about him? He's the first celebrity on stage. He's plus 125. He's the favorite. Not Tommy Alter? Tommy's fourth.

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Paul versus Peter

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I'm trying to think that might be it before we get to the good stuff there.

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Paul versus Peter

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What do you do? You have another NBA thing this week or something? I don't know. There might be more trades. I don't know.

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Paul versus Peter

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You got to stick around for these dumb trades.

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Paul versus Peter

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Yeah, it's not fun for you.

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Paul versus Peter

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Well, the bad thing is you could not even be looking for trouble and get food poisoning from Roy Oysters. How do you say that?

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Paul versus Peter

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It was minus 150. He had like two touchdowns all year. I was like, why is this only minus 150? Yeah.

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Paul versus Peter

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It's led to a marriage. It's led to almost bankruptcy for me. I am not very good at it. Now I pick an underachieving no-name player to have a reception or a carry. I hit with like Henry Hanowski.

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Paul versus Peter

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That was good. I took your Patriots tight end once, that Michael Humanoali.

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Paul versus Peter

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But honestly, I don't think I've hit since Fozzie Whitaker. And I feel like the Chiefs and Eagles have ruined the Gary Russell special because... We kind of know all the third and fourth stringers, right? Like, I'm not going to go with Kenneth Gainwell or Jahan Dodson or, you know, you said Samadji P. Ryan for the Chiefs. Otherwise, we know the top six receivers. So I had to dig deep.

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And here's what I ended up with.

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7373.728

No, I can't quit on Gary Russell. I can't believe we haven't heard from that couple. It must have split early on if that's actually how they met. Yeah, maybe that's like a sad story now. It's a sad story.

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Paul versus Peter

7384.43

The guy's living with his parents. Please reach out to us if that's the case. Are you ready? Yeah. Chiefs defensive lineman Mike Dana to record a sack at plus 235 is the Gary Russell special 2025. Hear me out. 27-year-old, fifth-round pick out of Michigan.

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7412.058

He's on the postseason roster, had a good game against the Bills. He had a sack.

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7418.38

He had a sack. And now it's going to be mentioned again and again. Again, he had six and a half sacks last year. He had five and 22. He had two at Philly in 2021. He's one of those guys, Simmons, you talk about it was like really good in high school. And then some scouts saw that and he was really good in college. And then he ended up being a pro.

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

7441.987

Yeah, Derek Henry theory. Four tackles, a sack, two quarterback hits, a forced fumble against the Bills. Madden gives him 85 acceleration and 90 tackling ability. Mike Dana, go get it. My Gary Russell special dude of 2025, a sack plus 235.

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7479.502

Yeah. No way.

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7496.069

Yeah. All right. Uh, I, uh, well, first of all, I crashed puberty night the other night. Remember I told you Harrison and his friends. Yeah. There's a, there's an instructor and we switch houses every Friday. Um, they gather and there's something going on. And this week it was at my house. So it was hard to avoid, even though my wife's like, just get lost.

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Paul versus Peter

7514.633

You know, you're not mature enough for this, but so I was going to take my other son out to dinner, but I was like, let me check in on this. And they're showing a birth, uh, on TV. It's like on my television, like a birth. And the kids are like covering their faces and everything. And then they have, yeah, it's really nutty. And they have questions afterwards about pregnancy.

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7532.659

And, and Harrison, uh, asks, um, can the baby poop when it's inside the mother? And I just like snickered and I was like, I gotta get the hell out of here. This is just too stupid. But, um, that's part one, part two, you talked about the Royal rumble. Um, I still love it. I still do like the pool as long as there's like four people involved. So I was like, all right, I'll put up $50.

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7555.293

My godson was here. My two younger sons, it was me. And then we picked numbers for Archie who's in college, right? So we got six people, uh, Or no, five people, six picks each. And it comes down to Jay Uso, who Harrison has, and John Cena, who Archie has. And Archie loved John Cena. He was his absolute favorite growing up. So it's kind of poetic.

Renewing Your Mind

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7577.483

And like you said, it would make sense that John Cena would at least come down to these two. He would win. He would emerge.

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7586.706

And this is the farewell tour. John Cena is going to be leading WrestleMania. Yeah. And it doesn't happen for John Cena. Jey Uso ends up winning. Harrison wins the $50 and immediately makes a taunting video and puts it on the family text chain. He's like, your boy lost it for you, Archie. That's it for you. $50 right here. Sorry, pal. You know, all that stuff.

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7610.228

And then Archie, a few hours later, says, I didn't even get to, congratulations, Harrison, I didn't even get to pick my numbers. I will be back better than ever next year. And so that we could go back to these days. And he pans the camera and he shows his laptop of Harrison having a temper tantrum when he lost the Royal Rumble. Oh, he's taunting him for past behavior. So I was like, this is great.

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7631.34

This is the best thing I've ever done. You've always wanted this. Created shit. On the family text chain. Melissa's like, what's wrong with you people? So anyway.

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7640.964

She's definitely like that's outside of the family.

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7695.547

And, uh, I usually say something, I usually say something stupid, like in a butler voice, like, would you care to go to the park, sir? You know, nobody ever gets it. And now that's it.

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

7724.297

three basically adults they're both juniors in high school and I'm in the front and they're in the back it's just fucking weird okay so this is different I think than from when we were growing up and everything else because are they showing each other stuff on the phone for the whole ride

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7743.557

They could do that anyway. They could still do that.

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7836.638

Yeah, and ski trip is right there at the top of that. I mean, you can forget a million things, right?

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7843.044

Yeah, that's bad to jump into first. One of the first things to jump into.

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7869.939

Can't he just reach into your closet and grab some ski clothes? I don't understand. Just fucking listen to me.

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7882.635

Right. I know.

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7889.88

No, it's about the same. I don't know. Archie started cooking for himself now, which surprised me. So that's good. Does he clean up after? Not that great at that, but it could be a little worse.

Renewing Your Mind

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7920.116

But is this a boy thing?

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7939.958

And I don't need help. It's what women accuse of us, like never asking for directions.

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7945.741

But then this is like the less mature thing.

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7959.009

My son did a weird thing real quick about that. Not only did he not sit in the front seat, but I had to take a bunch of wrestlers to a tournament. He let one of the wrestlers sit in the front seat with me. Instead of him? Instead of him. I was like, all right, I guess I'll talk to this kid for an hour. Wow. If they just don't like us, that might be it. Yeah, that might be it too.

Renewing Your Mind

Paul versus Peter

7979.688

Can they just say that?

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7996.113

Yes. Good job by you, buddy. Good job by you.

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1041.283

Yeah, let's try to remember to add up the over-under wins to determine who's the best division. So, yeah, we'll see. This could have the most.

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1099.062

It's 11 and a half. Okay, we got it. We split it. And 1-10 too.

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They were 11 last year and they won 12 games. So it kind of, that's a nice settling spot for them.

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1157.608

You know, it's weird with it. They didn't. So yesterday, Russ signs with the Giants and Fandles like, all right, so Rogers is the only missing piece at this point and probably to the Steelers. We don't give a shit. We can't wait. We can't wait. We're not going to move at a tick if he signs with Pittsburgh or not. I mean, what do they have? They have Rudolph and they have Skylar Thompson.

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1180.829

They should go for it. Go for it with those two. That'll be fun.

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1200.594

I don't like this team.

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Yeah, I don't know. This is a tough schedule. I think everybody knows how to beat the Steelers now. You need 17 points. Go get it.

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1271.693

Oh, wow. All right. I went 10 and a half. I think they juiced this up because any fantasy player is not really paying attention to how bad their offensive line might be. Wants to bet the over and the Bengals. And it was 10 and a half last year. What is it? It is 10 and a half.

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What the hell? Here we go. This is your new favorite game. This is it. This counts as four. Four weeks, I think.

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1332.762

I'm with you. I'm as right about the Bengals as I am as wrong about the Browns. And I feel like betting them to win 11. So it's going to be a tough schedule. They always get off to a slow start. I said they lost Alex Kappa and Trent Brown. So it could be one of those years where Burrow's running for his life. So I don't love them with 11 wins.

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1367.401

I love what you said. What'd you say? That was the funniest trade ever.

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I went five and a half. You know, I said five and a half, too. I'm regretting this. I think it could be even lower. They're miserable.

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This is a weird year with the quarterbacks. It really is. There might be actually too many quarterbacks versus teams that are going to take quarterbacks in the first round. I know I'll be wrong because everybody takes quarterbacks early, but Are the Browns and Titans definitely taking a quarterback? Or the Giants?

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1455.172

I thought I'd go for some of those. I put money on Dart and Sanders just thinking maybe someone does something really stupid here. Because I don't feel like we've heard a lot about... I know Warren's getting a little bit buzzed, but not to Warren minus 1,200.

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1510.08

Bangs his shoulder on the fridge, separates it, much like Abdul Carter. Hey, come on.

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I think that's fine. I think that's fine. They play themselves, so that's what's good.

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Well, you know what I'm also looking at? So let's add that up. 33 wins for the AFC East and 35 for the AFC North.

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1583.12

Is it 9.5? It can't be 10.

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They're a weird team, right?

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1611.873

Yeah. They should mow through this division. And how confident were we in C.J. Stroud last year? And then we didn't get that confidence back until the first round of the playoffs. So it's strange. They signed a lot of one-year players. Cam Robinson, Danell Hunter, Trent Brown. We'll see what happens.

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1649.25

I want to have a strong opinion about Jones. I'm not there yet, but I feel like I have no reason to support him, but maybe that was as disastrous a situation as you could come from. Going to New York Giants. Giants, torn ACL Giants.

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And now coming to the Colts? Maybe. Maybe that's a good deal. Oh, sounds like you like it. I have seven and a half. What'd you have? We're on par here. Seven and a half for me, too.

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1706.75

You're not excited about the Ami Brown?

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Did I go too high with seven and a half? I just feel like all these teams are the same.

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Seven and a half. Whoa. God, you're killing me.

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Hit the cash out button.

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Bad division. Bad owner, though, too. That's why you can't ever take them. It doesn't ever seem to work out for them. Injuries or anything. But I thought they were about the same as the Colts. I mean, they shouldn't be that much less than the Colts.

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1812.188

I don't like it either, but it all ends up being like, they come up with a number of how many games they'll be favored in, right? And so that's probably it. Playing that garbage division, they'll be favored in every home game, and they'll be favored against a couple NFC West teams.

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No. And I don't know why I put this at five and a half. I think I regret that because they could make it nice and easy. And well, I don't want to sway you, but did you go low?

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189.975

This is a spectacular day, a new day in our calendar. Hopefully we can keep doing this. I've been sick all week. I was in Vegas. I come back from Vegas. I'm sick every time now. It's like people come back with syphilis. I just have a cold. It doesn't help being next to nephew Kyle who fires up like 37 lung darts in 18 hours. It kills my throat. But anyway, I got some pep in my step.

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This is my new thing. This is my jam. Let's just keep doing this every week.

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No, I'm still having nightmares of that game one. I bet against Caleb Williams, who was supposed to be the rookie. I bet Will Levis had a giant lead on the Bears. And then Will Levis is throwing passes from his ass. Right. Staring at pick sixes.

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1940.855

He threw the game. If we were to write down three games that players threw, quote, whatever. I know, Fandle, we're not getting in trouble. That felt like what it would have looked like if somebody actually... Yeah, I see what you're saying.

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1970.022

That's fair. So just to recap, East, 33 wins. North, 35. South, 30.

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I think one of the teams has both Souths. I think that's in the NFC, but one of the divisions.

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That's what I did. And I wonder if it's even light. Tell me what it is.

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That's wrong. That's very weird.

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Well, just to bet Chiefs at 6-1, bet Mahomes at 6-1. Just do all of them. Well, first of all, everything you say, they go through it. They had 15 freaking wins last year. Every year, they have a first-place schedule. Every year, they possibly play the first Thursday night game. Every year, they're going to play on Christmas. Every year, they're going to have six primetime games. Right.

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They end up with 13, 14, 15 wins. How do you make this 11 and a half? They won the division by four games last year. All right, the Chargers might be a little better. Raiders a tiny bit better. Is Denver going to be better? I'm all in on over 11 and a half. That is embarrassing. That's board material.

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I mean, I'm not going to. It's just so it should be out there for everybody.

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Yeah, the KCD, like a CD, like a savings. But yeah, that's right. You're not going to wait seven or eight years to cash in on those. Thank you.

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This is one of the five. If they should do this, Vandal should release the win total over-unders. the last Thursday in March, this would be one of the five best non-football sports days of the year. I mean, between March Madness, the four Sweet 16 games, opening day baseball, and preseason over-under win totals? Are you kidding me? This is great.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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joker in the miami open i have to wake up and bet soccer and now there's like you have to have like nine streaming services to have the the all the soccer capabilities for the world to worldwide gamble on it but um yeah that's basically it just nonsensical soccer in the morning Like what country? What region of the world are we in? All of them. All of them.

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Yes. Is Greenland a country or do they belong to us now? I don't know. I bet them all.

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Our cherished 51st state. Yes. Yeah.

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But I'm the other way. I'm like, why even keep table around? Cause you're not going to win with this team. And this is going to be his last year, right? This, this Russell Wilson thing. And I mean, they're a mess. They offer Darius Slayton more money than they did. Saquon.

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I'm going to say five. I don't even know why, but okay.

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Yeah, that's a disaster. What's the division odds?

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Is there like a future bet there? Who's favored? Make no mistake. Stephen A. would swing at him. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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NFC North. So the NFC East 34 wins. AFC East 33. I don't know about that.

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Can I tell a quick story being in Vegas? So I bet the Giants have the worst record in the league last year. And they were three and 14, right? But it tied with three other teams. So it's a four-way split. So I go to cash this. I don't have to say what casino this is, but I go to cash it in. So I should, you know, I was about to win $1,300. So if you split it four ways, I went 300 and changed.

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So I presented to the counter. It's a miracle I'm cashing a futures ticket from last year. Right. And the guy's like, nope, this is a loser. I was like, well, how is this a loser? I pull up on my phone. There's four teams with three wins. Then he brings this guy over. Couldn't have been older than 19 years old. He's got this thing that resembles a phone that he's looking into.

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The Giants lose on a tiebreaker to the Browns, and he lists six tiebreaking scenarios, and they lost on the sixth tie. I was like, wait a minute. Isn't this dead heat rules? And I was like, no, we don't do Teddy, sir. This is how we do it. And you lost on the sixth tiebreaker. I'm like, all right. I don't even know what you're looking into, by the way.

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You could be, you know, you could be, I'm not sure what you could be, but, and I hate when they're indignant about it. Like, um,

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Like TSA is like when you fly from and they're like, you have to take your laptop out. Like, all right, well, I just flew in from Fort Worth and I didn't have to. And they're like, they're so dickish about it. But anyway, I lost because of the six tiebreaker. That feels like fraud. I know. It's like all this rooting I did for nothing.

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I'm sorry. That's wrong. This team had the year from hell injury-wise. You're not going to find a worse example of a team that was plagued with injuries, and they won 15 games, and now you're taking four and a half games off their total? They can get their whole defense back. I know the division's tough.

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Four and a half wins differential?

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I like the over. I'm saying I like the over. Why is that four and a half different? Like, Minnesota's not going to win 14 games. So they'll, right? I don't even know that the division's better.

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Dan Campbell bit all the kneecaps off. There's none left.

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I went 8.5. I think this is an impossible one to pick. I think nine and eight would be good for them.

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I did it. You're going to have to pull me in 10.

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I think that's just right for them.

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I went nine only because it was nine last year, right? Like, wasn't that weird? Remember we were betting them not to make the playoff. Do we bet them under nine or do we bet them not to make the playoffs? I feel like they're in love with the bears. The fans are in love with the bears. I know they fix that offensive line. I have nine.

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So 19 and 18. So that's 37 wins. Is that the most?

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I'll keep this going as long as you want. I don't know that LeBron's more. Stephen A. could be our next president. I don't know who's more famous.

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Oh, really? Oh, I don't think you can make any of these teams over eight and a half. That's what I did. And you were correct. Eight and a half. This is embarrassing for you.

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I mean, this could be just a giant Bill Simmons meme for 90 minutes. This is great.

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Can't do it. No South. No South talk until week 12.

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Little whiz of weird offseason already. I just went 8. Okay.

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I mean, that's just so much is up in the air with his cousins and they lose their center.

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I think I've dropped by five wins. This doesn't matter. You pick the winners 27 times. I'm just picking the number. I don't know what the hell to do. I don't know what to do with the number.

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Yeah. Brandon Cooks, Jawan Johnson, same old names.

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I went round number because I couldn't think about it too much.

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I sent you all the numbers from last year. You could have noticed that there weren't halves on several of them.

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373.496

Probably divisions. I mean, I would really like to do 15 minutes on Jokic's no look pass and another 20 on whether Steph's tunnel shot went in. But okay, if you want to get right into it, it's fine.

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Yeah. Yeah. He's going to be a cowboy.

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By the way, that was nuts. We don't think about that enough, that Andy Dalton was totally content to bring them to another three and 14 year.

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He gets in that car accident. You should see if you're covered. Your auto insurance covers that bet. Do you have to pay the deductible?

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What are we doing? Come on. I don't agree with that at all. Why are they better than five ones last year? Holy moly. Where do they pick up this extra two games? Divisions.

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We may have to do that. But no South talk. Hey, what was your bet last year for the South? They'd have fewer than how many wins?

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3852.481

Yeah. They're old. They're messy. They came out with a great start last year. They were 2-0, scored like 100 points, and then they were the Saints.

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Oh, wow. I went nine. So let's see. I know you don't like the round numbers.

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He needs to apologize. I was saying that he's no longer a first ballot Hall of Famer. I mean, he now drops to two or three. But I thought my favorite thing about it is typical NBA fashion. It took three days to review. Like, why didn't we get that second angle an hour later? Mark Davis is still at the monitor.

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No. After the Super Bowl, I picked my way too early team, odds-wise, value-wise. The Rams were 20-1. I was like, wow, that's pretty good. They were a couple plays away from beating the champion Eagles. And then they did a smart thing, signed Stafford. Awesome. I think Devontae Adams has juice left.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's good. They're in good shape, I think. Nine and a half is a nice number, too.

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I said seven and a half.

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Really? Yeah. Really? You won one?

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I don't like these moves. These could go very badly with Sam Darnold and Cooper Cupps.

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Arizona's 8-9. No Geno, no Metcalf.

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Maybe you'll beat me here.

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I'm going to let you win these last couple.

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Oh, wow. I had eight and a half.

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That's too high. That's way, way high.

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What am I missing? You know, you read enough about them. It's like, yeah, these were good moves. These were good cuts. Debo Samuel, all these cuts, everything they did. Greenlaw. I don't know. I don't.

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Wait, so they're favored to win the division?

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Yeah. That's atrocious. That's not good. That's not good. We got to go under there.

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That's the way to go. Yeah, I don't know why.

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That was a good time. And they have Mac Jones, though. Did you mention that? They did sign him for two years.

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So the Niners are probably like seventh best to win the Super Bowl?

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I missed the whole off season. I really do. I was there for the whole off season.

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Yeah, they were riding high off the purdy, not having to pay him. Now it's, I got to look into that. We're missing something. Let's do a quick parent corner before we go. All right. My son Archie's home on spring break. They do quarters. So he gets home and I say, how are your grades?

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And he kind of like half-asses a response and everything and immediately shifts gears and tells me he's on season four of The Sopranos. And I was like, oh, that's great. That's better. You could have told me you're... You're mafia cum laude right now. I mean, that's all I care about. That's what college should be all about, right?

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Spend tens of thousands of dollars a semester to catch up on classic TV shows in your dorm. That's like reading a great novel. Yeah, it really is. So I was like, well, sorry. So you're in season four. You got like a season and a half. I was like, I want to watch the finale with you. And he's like, oh, I don't know. Once I get going, I really, I don't know.

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Am I really going to be able to stop short and not watch the finale for like a month? I'm like, no, I want to watch with you. And it's like, he's like, all right, I'll try. But it made me think like if you had to watch a finale with your kids who are viewing for the first time, which ones would you put up there? Sopranos. Only Sopranos. Anything else? Breaking Bad or not as much?

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I'm still mad that you're not mad about it. I really do. Yeah, now I think it's great.

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You liked it right away. You did.

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It's nonsensical. I guess no one hated it as much as I did. But I had a terrible reaction to it. I didn't want to be friends with anyone who liked it. I like that as such a cheap way to go out. But the answer is he left it open-ended because he's a movie maker. He wanted to maybe make a movie. What? That's the only answer. So he didn't die. This is dumb.

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I think that's fair. We should also say, we may have some leans here, but these aren't our official picks. You don't want to tarnish your, what were you, 27-5 last year?

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Right. We didn't have WhatsApp and anything else like that too. So it wasn't as easy.

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No, we're still missing two key components. We haven't seen the draft, obviously, and we don't know the schedule. We know who everybody plays. We don't know rest advantage. We don't know who has three road games in a row and stuff like that.

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Nope, nothing. I think the big news is who the hell knew that Ben Simmons played the upright bass after all these years on an international level. This is great.

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I don't know. Who could figure that out? I bet on them in soccer. I have a bunch of Portuguese soccer players.

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You just reminded me. There you go.

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Nah, dude. Nah, they'll come around. I think you need to hold the rewatchables at the place where she's going out. That's what you have to figure out. Maybe go to the bar.

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Mercy rule. I went Soto over 33 and a half home runs. And what was my other one I had? I have Texas Rangers to make the playoffs. Oh, I like it. Yeah, I think you're good. And I had Mad Dog Russo on Cousin Sal's winning weekend. You can see it Friday on Sandal TV. And by the way, I'll send you the clip. I was like, Simmons and I do this podcast for the last 15 years.

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We've closed it with Good Job by You. We stole it from you. I said, can you give me a good job by you? And he's like, well, first of all, you tell Bill, I watched three episodes of the Celtics documentary and it is dynamite. I mean, you got him and his father and they're talking and Koozie and Russell. And then he went through all that. I'm like, all right, I'll tell him.

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And then he gave me a good job by you. Like I thought he was going into convulsions. Like it was great. I'll send it to you.

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I'm doing all right. I mean, you can't. It's hard to lose when it's all chalk. I mean, I know you hate it. Are you doing three favorite parlays? I get irrationally angry at how much you, your irrational.

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I know. Yeah, I know.

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Oh my God. It's busted. Oh, It's dumb, but it's still guys coming to Vegas. By the way, it's not like 20 years ago. They charge like 500 bucks to get into Caesars. Anyway, you want to see it anywhere. It's 400. Like, ask Kyle. It's 400 or more. Oh, my God.

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I said 12. And again, I'm looking at these for the first time. You can't say 12.

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No, no, no. Half of them were regular square numbers. Oh, really? Oh, I didn't even know we were doing that. Okay. Yeah, I wrote down the last years. You were right, though, of course. So the cheating right off the top.

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So they went, they had 13 wins last year and it's 11 and a half. And that's to say that the division got better or you just can't make them 12?

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I think they're fine. I think what they have out of Bosa is good. They just need basically that.

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That's good. I mean, he's definitely going to miss time, but they extended, uh, Allen, which is, which is great. I mean, we don't 11 and a half, 12 is fine. So you get it.

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Yeah. Yeah, about half of mine. No, I got more halves, but... Yeah, I have nine.

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I might be low last year.

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Eight and a half. So I get it.

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Well, that eight last year.

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Go ahead. You do it. You start. I'll jump in.

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You're going to tell me Zach Wilson is going to step in there and do the job? I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it for sure.

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That's a discussion for a different day.

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I get this. I said six. And did you see it? It is five and a half. Yeah. Wow. Amazing. It was nine and a half with Rodgers. It's five and a half with Justin Fields. They went way too high on Rodgers, which we know. But five and a half. What a slap in the effing Empire State Building face.

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I haven't seen. All right. So how many games will they be favored in? One in their division?

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None of the AFC North games, probably. No. A couple of the NFC South.

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This could be 10 and a half and you're going over. I don't know what it is.

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That's fine. That's fair.

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And I know you're... I'm not influential with this. You're over the moon about Stefan Diggs. You got your way there.

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You're not going to be in a spot where you're going to want to lose that last game, right? Which is where you were, which when we typically go over some of these teams over-unders, you have to factor that in. And no, I think you could be an 8-9 team. You should be happy with 8-9 and Drake May's second year.

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You need to watch the NFL Denver type situation, right? I think your situation is even closer to Denver, even though it's, I know Nick's was a rookie coming in, but older, whatever. Yeah. I think that's kind of what you have to do. Sneak up there.

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I mean, you already sold the nine-part documentary for the 2025 Patriots. So, I mean, good job by you, I guess.

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You and I haven't mentioned Christian Benford or Deron Payne at all over 23 weeks. Yes. No, ever. Yes, you're right. And those arguably were the two biggest, you know, one, you know, neither, both for not being able to play. And yeah, Benford actually got out with the second concussion, we think.

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I mean, we talked about it last week, how important, so stupid, but how important turnovers are. And we'll get to it in the Philly game, which absolutely dominated the discussion. But yeah, if the Ravens don't turn the ball over, it's a different story altogether. And maybe if they get a home game too against Buffalo.

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Yeah, well, that's why I took the Chiefs. I'm not going to take a lap because I recognize whoever had the ball last pretty much, the last six minutes are going to decide this game.

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But when I was thinking about it, I'm like, wait a minute, I'm going to go against the Chiefs who, like I said, haven't turned the ball over since November and they're trying to repeat and they're in the arrowhead and have a chip on their shoulder against Buffalo who beat them in the regular season. No freaking way.

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Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I lost consciousness for a second there.

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So how is he different from Lamar then in that respect? Because they're pointing the same fingers, right?

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um so i would be more mad about that if i were them yeah i think they the bills fans at least early on i could see they're very upset with the coaching staff you know because when you can't blame the kicker when you can't kill the kicker and they can't it goes right to the quarterback or coaching staff and it seems like the coaches are getting we should real quick shout out to james cook i mean that was a spectacular spectacular play

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on fourth and two. By the way, good job. Another great play by Josh Allen, flipping that to him on the quarterback option. With some speed.

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But it kind of had to get there then, right? Had to get there.

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And for him to be able to stay horizontally and bridge on his hand without the elbow falling and extend it over the goal line with the other hand was really one of the better plays I've seen all year.

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Right. Oh, maybe it's Klubber Lang. Then Lamar. No, no. Lang won a title. Yeah, I don't know who Lamar is. Yeah, I don't know what you do with Josh Allen. That sucks with the cutaways. You need more cutaways of his fiance, right? I mean, he's losing that battle too. Taylor Swift. But yeah, he's playing as well as he can and just can't beat this team.

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They're racking them up. They got to get this game at home. I don't know. Maybe with Pete Carroll in the division, the AFC West, and some of these teams getting better, the Chiefs won't go 15-2 or 15-1 going into the last week.

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Yeah, you did. But the Chiefs, as I run my mouth on this whole thing, they went through the whole thing on the road too last year. So I don't even know what matters.

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All right. Okay, so good. That means you took the Chiefs, and I had them too. But just as an emotional hedge, and then you look back, I'm like, oh, my God, I have so much money on this team as an emotional hedge. It's going to be emotional the other way when I have to explain to the family we have to move if the Bills win. So, wow, what a game.

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Yeah, thank God. I will say the one thing we skipped over with Kelsey. That's another thing the Bills would be like, oh my God, we held that guy to nothing. He had 14 straight games with 75 or more. 14 straight playoff games. He was invisible. Two catches for 19 yards and they embarrassed him most of the game and still couldn't get it done. It's a lot of rough moments there for the Bills.

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Yeah, he plants his right foot directly out of bounds on a ball that should have been catchable.

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Yeah, Pacheco and Kelsey, 43 total yards. Like, how much would we pull back on our Chiefs bet if we had known that was going to happen?

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I can't believe the Pats never did it. I mean, I looked through it too. Obviously, they haven't.

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Yeah. But out of Cowboys, Steelers, Patriots, Niners, it's shocking that there was no three-peat. It's shocking that the Bears only won one.

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They were 15-2. They were 15-1 heading into the week that they sat everyone. And he wasn't even a top three or four consideration for MVP. That's insane because his stats weren't Patrick Mahomes-esque is the problem. But as like a Patriot fan and one of the few teams that have had two Pete's, how much are you rooting for?

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It's not like 72 Dolphins are thrilled and do the champagne toast when a team loses. But are you rooting hard? Because I've talked to some people who have been part of like a two Pete and are rooting hard against anyone having a three Pete.

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But you're trading that for Mahomes could eventually pass Brady as the greatest ever in every conversation. You're willing to put that up for debate?

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If he wins four in a row, if he four-peats, which, you know, he's a game and a season away from doing, then the conversation becomes real. I don't know.

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Well, except for that first drive. They did everything you could ask for, right? So for Washington, my big thing was Philly's going to run the ball. When Deron Payne went out, I'm like, this is going to be a disaster. And especially because

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washington has won time possession the last two times i think it was 34 26 against um last week against the lions and 36 24 against tampa maybe i mixed those two up but like they're not gonna win that they're not gonna win time of possession it was dead even i was a little bit wrong about that because it was dead even time of possession but that first drive you must have been excited when he's converting fourth and twos and fours great then we settled for a field goal that sucked but uh

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I also don't know why they went for a field goal. They were surviving fourth and threes all the way down the field, and they have a shady kicker.

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And then Barkley crushes their spirit three plays later.

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Yeah, but so, man, it was such a good throw. I think it was like because it was like two tight ends like going out and he had to judge the way the middle linebacker and he just shifted towards the guy on the right and then he completed and it was a good throw and everything else. But yeah, they should have been a little more prepared, but yeah. Kudos. And they only got three out of that, right?

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Yeah. And a couple of big runs too. Running for three touchdowns. So... Yeah. I was like, with that field goal miss, I was like, you're playing right into Washington's hands. I feel like with this team on third and sixth, they should run every time on third and sixth or third and fifth. They're going to go for it on fourth and one or two and make it.

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Instead, third and sixth, the one thing he can't do is get sacked, and he did. And then, what's his name, misses the field goal. And that was, I was like, all right, they're back in it. But yeah, it was just too much firepower eventually.

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It's such a tough spot, right? A rookie just can't... Especially in Philly. To go to Detroit and Philly and do that and be down an offensive lineman.

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Well, Hertz was good, but then you hear about him showing up in a knee brace and I started getting PTSD from the Tyson-Paul fight. I'm like, oh, Tyson showed up with a knee brace and I lost a lot of money. I don't know. Maybe this isn't a good idea.

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Yeah, you don't want parity in everything, all the time, everywhere. Like, you know, I think if you ask people honestly, they would want Washington and Buffalo to have advanced today, right? So that wasn't going to happen because everybody wanted it, right? But other than that, I love that the Chiefs are in it. Mahomes is great. And we saw the greatest quarterback of all time in Brady.

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Yeah, especially with the tush push and everything.

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So I want to know what year they brought it back because it was banned, right? You couldn't pull a guy. You still can't pull a guy, right? Even though they don't call it a lot. And there was a time when you couldn't push it. So you couldn't. So I don't know. It doesn't jive with the current rules about like, all right, we don't want guys hitting each other's heads in the wedge and we want safety.

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Yeah. Also, it doesn't look like a football play and it's boring. And and then they have a little.

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problem on their hand with what washington was doing i think the whole world that wasn't rooting for phil was like good keep hitting them keep hitting them keep getting the personal foul and then the ref admonished them it's like we're gonna we're gonna spank you there's gonna be a spanking that goes on here if you do it again we're gonna give them a touchdown so so you give them the touchdown so we don't have to give them a touchdown it's so weird

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I'm the wrong guy to ask. I hate it. I don't like it either. The team I hate most uses it most effectively. But I don't like it. Someone's going to have to get hurt, though, I think. I think that's the problem with this, right?

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You're such a college basketball fan. I think it's a little of both. Definitely Washington, the Cinderella thing, it came to an end. But I do feel pretty good about Philadelphia and the trenches there. And they could, you know, I'm not saying I'm taking Philly, but they could present problems like Tampa Bay did to Kansas City in that Super Bowl where Mahomes is just running for his life.

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And there'll be one highlight where he's horizontal to the ground completing a pass, but otherwise it's a long night. So they were excellent. I mean, what'd they have? 229 on the ground. They averaged like 6.4 a carry.

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And now we're possibly seeing his greatest successor in Mahomes. And that is exactly why I hate when people lead with, oh, the referees screwed them, all the... No, I don't like the negative stigma because that then football could turn into your crappy sport. Sorry, the NBA and where everybody's talking bad about it.

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Yeah, he should start saluting. And the question you posed earlier, did he do a good deed for all running backs or just for himself and Derrick Henry? I mean, it's going to be a tough decision for GMs the rest of the way. But he did make a difference. I mean, the Eagles are much better because they got Barkley. And he only had, like you said, 15 carries. Like, that's bizarre.

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They could add another 100 yards if he had another 10 yards.

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Only Barry Sanders, Peyton, and for a small stretch, Terrell Davis, like you brought up. I don't really.

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This is a crazy year. I know they're not going to give him MVP, but 2,000 plus?

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Is he going to get 2,000 in the playoffs also? I don't know.

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Well, no, he'd need like 150. And what's interesting is he gets screwed because of the one-yard plunge by Jalen Hurts, right? He had three of those. Otherwise, Barkley would probably have like 30 touchdowns.

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Even the two or three before that, the last regular season games, he was spectacular.

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I mean, just from what I've seen, I think we missed a lot of Walter Payton's greatness, right? But I'll trust it. And if we want to keep going back to Jim Brown.

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And like, we're forgetting the fact that we're seeing Mahomes and he's the greatest or close to the greatest. So stop that talk, you know?

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But like short yardage is so important now. I would say Davis and Barkley over like a Barry Sanders. But Barry Sanders was spectacular in his own right too.

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I used to get in fistfights over this when I loved Emmitt more than Barry Sanders. And I don't think anyone has as many negative, carries for negative yards as Barry Sanders, but there was something. I mean, you just go by, SportsCenter highlights were so important back then.

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I like seven. I thought it jumped the shark around after that.

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Oh, I made a nice little breakout clip of it. And yeah, I don't know what the NFL could do about 10 years in a row.

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This is a big freaking deal. And I don't know that, like I said, the NFL has a problem because now this is a waste of a week. I don't know what they could do scheduling wise to make this interesting with me having won the title, but.

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Are they announcing it in the parking lot of media day? How close are they getting? How much attention do they need?

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I've said it has to be one and a half because every line has been one and a half this year. And I'm going to say the Chiefs are favored. And so now let's look.

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Well, you should have. It is one and a half. Of course. It's the biggest practical joke in sports gambling. Chiefs are favorite by one and a half.

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And not only that, I was like, Oh, 29, 29. All right. The one and a half, is it going to come into play? And then like we, you, me and Hench, we listed like 10 ways. The one and a half can come into play. Oh, the bills can miss the extra point. Oh, the chiefs could go for two and like, Oh yeah, I forgot. It's the NFL.

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Barkley over under. Let's do a quick tour. You want to guess that?

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I don't even know. It was 70, 80, somewhere in there.

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They can't give him 15. They can't give him the ball 15 times.

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Oh, they jacked it even further. Six and a half. I still like it. The over's a plus, but we'd like this bet more than Mahomes rushing yards, right? Because of the nail-down factor.

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Does the center get it? I'm not sure. That's good because it's like an own goal kind of, right? Have you ever seen a ref say that before?

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Yeah. It's not a lot of brotherly love being sent that way. One other play was the measurement. And again, the Chiefs won because they're better and everything else. The measurement on that fourth down where the line judges. The two refs. Yeah. Wildly different. And they just don't measure anymore. They don't take those chains. They're embarrassed of the chains. Like, why don't they measure?

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So like they guessed and then that guess has to be conclusively overruled. To change, measure it. Put it down. First of all, there's not a chip in the ball.

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Interesting. All right. This is a $500 billion league. Put a freaking chip in the ball. It's one thing if the guy's knee is down, but if we're really just measuring to see where the ball, the furthest the ball got. I think we could do that.

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It's also an AA meeting. So yeah. No, but bringing chains out there, like these guys are surveyors in the 1650s.

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Oh yeah. Sure. That's easy. That's right there. I mean, not easy.

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Uh, Now I lost it. 49 and a half is exactly right.

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And last week, was it over 4-0? No, Chiefs-Texans went under. But we had Eagles-Rams had 50, Bills-Ravens had 52, and the Lions-Commanders had 76. So yeah, you had like five out of the last six go over in cold weather most of those games.

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Yeah. He handed the torch. And Mahomes, I think, played a little game with the Bills. Like, look, we don't turn the ball over. We haven't turned the ball over since November. There's been like 280 turnovers in the NFL. And none of them attributed to the Chiefs. So what do they do? They fumble. It's recovered, but they're off sides, the Bills. So it doesn't count.

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It's great. And first of all, Fox is delighted and the NFL is delighted, right? Because you got Hurts, you got Barkley, you got Mahomes, you got Taylor, everything. If the Rizzler shows up again, I don't know. But I think the casual fan... probably is bummed about this matchup a little bit. No question. I think maybe Cowboys Chiefs would bum them out a little more.

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But other than that, I think this is right up there.

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McDermott's not going to blow this game. Well, you could just tell him that every year he could rely on a great AFC title match, right? Like seven of the last nine have been seven points, decided by seven points or fewer.

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Yeah, yeah. Everyone wants to be like Romo in that regard. I just can't.

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Yeah, I think he's, you know, I don't know, because people are assholes and they're like, we don't want to hear what's about to happen. So stop circling the screen. I don't think he was told to stop, but I think he's just like, forget it.

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Who started it? Did it start in college? Was it Vince Young or Tebow? It wasn't that long ago. It wasn't in the 70s or 80s. I really feel like it's

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Like two plays later, like, all right, we're going to give you one more chance. This is it. And even this isn't going to matter. And they fumble. And that was the only turnover of the game, right? And still, they couldn't get it done because you got the Chiefs with the ball last. And that's what's going to happen.

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Yeah. Although I'll say that fourth and two where they rushed up to the line after a timeout and he rolled right. It's like, wow, this guy's got it, man. This is why it's so fricking hard to beat them.

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I don't understand it either. Nothing against the guy. I'll give him a chance. I hope he does well. But I really think Jerry Jones is fucking with us. I mean, the way he's even introduced him. He's like, ah, he was known as a career assistant. It's like, yes. Yeah, great, Jerry. That's what we're all thinking.

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That's what he said. He's not just Brian anymore. He's the head coach. I'm like, you just don't care about us. You don't care about this team. This is just a joke. I kind of want to enter the fan trend, you know, the portal. I really want to get into the portal and pick a different, like look what Joe House did.

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You got to keep, you got to stay with your, stay with the marriage. But Joe House. Stay with your bad, unhappy marriage. Hate watched the Washington team until they switched ownership. And now he gets a seat in the luxury box, courtesy of Washington. I'm like, all right, I'll do that. Like, why can't I just, Watch from afar. This is disgusting.

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Brian Schottenheimer, like you said, wasn't on anybody's list. It's like in fantasy. If you're doing like a snake draft and someone drafts like, um, in the seventh round drafts, like, uh, like Ray, Ray McLeod. And you're like, Oh, wait, hold on. I'm still looking down my list to cross.

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I got to get to page 12. I keep going. Got to keep going. Like there's something to be said about at least going through the motions and interviewing a Kellen Moore or Jones broke.

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He's like, I'm an actor. I can fall back on that if the team's bad and the team will be bad. No.

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Yeah. He's our guy. He's been in the building three years and they still have to interview him. The funny part is that they actually interviewed him. Like, yeah, I think you know what you're getting with him. It's fine, but... I'm so bummed.

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It's so funny how Washington has affected other teams near the bottom. Right. And yeah, the exact opposite effect on Dallas because now we have Jayden Daniels in our division for anywhere from next year to the next 12 years. Right. And, uh,

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It's very cool. Never freaks out through a couple of bad passes, but it's to be expected. I mean, how many how many weeks are going to do this for?

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Fun, fun QBs and Dax coming back and bad coaches. Shut up. Or what's going to keep guests lines going for another 17 years.

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It's so funny how there's only like a few owners. There's only a few quarterbacks to get. And there's only a few coaches. If you don't get them, you're kind of screwed.

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That is pretty sad. I told you, when you can't make a three-team teaser unless you use the over-under, that's a milestone. That's the official sadness day. Really bad. Really sad. And after next week, after we do our prop podcast, that'll be sad too. It's a step.

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All right. I'll go first. Speaking of wrestling tournaments. So, yeah, wrestling season's coming to a merciful end for me. And so that's my middle kid. And my youngest kid has traveled baseball and rec league basketball. So Saturday I have to go from chat. Basketball.

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Oh, he's all about basketball too. It's fun. It is fun at that age, running around. So Saturday, I have to go from Jack's tournament to Harrison's basketball game. I'm going to catch just the end of his basketball game. So I walk in there. It's the fourth quarter. And I see my wife's there. And the game, it's 18-17. And she's talking to this woman seated next to her.

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And I have no idea who the woman is. And I mentioned that. I was like, wow, the gym seems tense. And my wife's like, yeah, the refs aren't calling anything. These kids are really going at it. And

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then she goes back to talking to this woman that I don't know so and then it's clear to me I'm like well she must be guessing that the refs aren't calling anything because she's not watching a second of this and so I'm starting to get annoyed I'm like it's 18 17 with like two and a half minutes left like Harrison's taking shots and he's playing defense and everything but anyway okay so

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She's still talking to this woman. There's eight seconds left. We're up by three. The opponent inbounds it, dribbles down the court, runs down the court, and just before he pulls up for the three, Harrison hard fouls him. Before he goes into shooting motion. And I was like, that's freaking smart. That's like one of the smartest things my kids have done.

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The announcers loved it. The gym did not love it. The referees didn't love it either. And everyone's like, oh, oh boy. But now there's like 0.6 on the clock left. What was the hard foul? Was it like a shove or was it like a karate chop? Right, right. Shove to the chest. Maybe a little elbow. Kids off balance.

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Before, before, way before the shot, definitely before the shot, but he saw that the kid was about to pull up and there's 0.6 on the clock. And there's like, no, it's not a shooting foul. And they're just going to inbound it.

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And the ref like mildly scolds Harrison, much like the refs did to, to sorry, who played Philly today or already lost Washington when they were jumping off sides over and over. But he's like, game's over. And, uh, and so that was it. And everyone's like, Oh man. Oh boy. All right. So I was like, Oh geez. I'm like, I can't wait to high five them in private later. Like a small fist pump. Yeah.

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And then the kid who we shoved is like crying, um, after the game. And I say, and I'm like, now I'm by my wife and this woman, I'm like, Oh God, look at this. This kid's crying now. And she turns to me and mouths. that's this woman's son. His name is Bob. I'll say Bob because I don't want to say the real name, but that's off by one letter. That's Bob and this woman's son. I'm like, oh shit.

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Now she's looking at me. And so now I have to eat shit a little bit. Like I let like a minute pass and I go up to her after the game and I'm like, hey, I just want you to play. Bob played a great game. And she's giving me the look like, yeah, I saw you walk in like with four minutes left in the game. Don't give me this crap. You didn't even see him play. I made it worse.

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She didn't say that, but she gave me that look. But anyway, talking to Harrison afterwards, I'm like, look, you know, you're not supposed to. I was like, dad, we lost a game like that last week. I wasn't going to let him get the shot off.

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We do this as gamblers. Well, what's interesting with basketball from 10 to 11, which makes it even more intense, at 11, they start calling double dribble a lot. And they start calling travel. And you can play backcourt defense. So it gets pretty rough and stupid. Um, yeah, 10, 10 and under, you couldn't play defense until we crossed half court.

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That's a crazy stat. And because of that, when they're driving at the end and they're minus 146, I'm crazy about the numbers, as you know. Yeah, you were texting me during every time out. I don't know what the hell to do with the numbers, but I'm wild about it. I just love it. And it's minus 146.

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I'm like, wow, that's suspiciously low for this team that's going for a 3P and never loses one score games. And then they were minus 154 when they had the three-point lead and the bills were driving or whatever with that last possession there. So it is just amazing what the hell they've done. And I look at the numbers.

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No. Yeah. Wait on the dog or at least get that rug cleaner for sure. You said the dogs have an IQ of 20. This, this sounds like a smart dog. Like when you say like the dog left the room to do all this, he knew, he knew like that makes me think sometimes that dogs are smarter than humans.

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Like he had the wherewithal to be crafty enough or embarrassed enough or whatever it was to do it in another room. For just temporary.

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I'm like, it doesn't even really add up with Mahomes and the stats and how they keep winning. And, you know, I...

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I thought you said she went away with her friends.

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I've not done it. And I had the opportunity because I had gambling money once to loan my roommates who were dealing it money. He's like, you give me $150 and you can make 600. By the end of it, I was like, I don't know why I said no, but I did.

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Well, I like it because even last week, a little tiny bit wishy-washy. I was like, oh man, is he just not a cold weather announcer? But now he came back.

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I love that there's like 150 up already. It's not even Monday. This is terrific.

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How did the Bills outrush them by just 12 yards? I don't remember a ton of... It felt like 200. And Cook wasn't in the game on a couple of big plays. I do think McDermott... By the way, they found out he's Bill Burr's brother. I didn't even know this.

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Okay, so it's 46.5, but you wouldn't double back on it, would you? That's too much. Oh, for regular season wins?

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Yeah, I was just wondering. I don't even know how you play them at this point. What more?

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Yeah, like they... Three of the last four... The next four games or they're in that four-game run that was going to be tough. And I bet them to make the play-in. I'm like, oh, they're definitely going to get in the play-in because you could do that on Fandle. I'm like, now they're minus 220. Oh, you think they could actually make it? Well, now they're minus 225 to make the playoffs. So, yeah.

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Well, I thought for sure once they let Bronny go to the G League, I'm like, that's a mistake. They're going to regret sending that generational talent somewhere else. And who knows if he even comes back if they want him.

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Yeah. Isn't that something? I didn't hear them announce that. Yeah. He got outcoached. He got bailed out, I think, early when they scored on fourth down. But he was outcoached and Spags wasn't going to let it happen twice in an hour.

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They, Atkinson is minus 470 for coach of the year. What would they have to, what kind of, what kind of claps would they have to have for him not to win it at this point?

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But he won last year, though, right? I mean, I'm all for the guys that get votes, but I don't think they give it two years in a row too much.

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You promised me you would get the vote. Give the vote.

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Because I have Shea because of you, House, and Rosillo. I got like plus 350. Now he's minus 350.

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I have Saar from the beginning of the year.

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Remember Westbrook was a big favorite? Not Westbrook. Was it Westbrook with six men? Did that make sense a few years ago? Then it became a starter. Then odds went away. That's what you have to avoid. Which one of those top four can get in the starting lineup? Cuz, what do you got to plug? What do I have? Against All Odds a couple times this week. Through the Ringer with Tate Frazier.

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Cousin Sal's winning weekend at the end of the week. And Frontier Wireless blows and their customer service reps are fucking liars. That's it. Bye. See you next week.

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The number one? No, I know. But what did I have to give up?

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Yeah, yeah, it was weird because, yeah, you're right, because the Chiefs got the ball in the second half. Is that what you're saying?

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The Bills had the ball and then hooked. Yeah, it was interesting. It really was. And let's put everything in perspective. With that play that hit the ground and should have been called incomplete, it was holding on Hamlin. He mugged Kelsey, backpacked him, jumped on his back. So it would have been first down at the 20th. Maybe the bills don't have enough time to draw, drive back and get the six.

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I don't know that the chiefs score either, but you know, but let's, before everybody points to, Oh, the chiefs got lucky again.

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It was rough. There was traffic around him. It was kind of like a moon ball, you know, and he's got to catch it at his feet. Probably should have grabbed it. But in that situation, like that's he was running for his life and he's just trying to get good positioning on that ball.

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But to answer your original question, the Bills are looking at this like not that we're three plays away, that they should have won the game. They're done losing to this team, right? They already beat them in the regular season. They're not like us where we could rationalize it and be like, well, they just can't beat them at Arrowhead. It's a different beast.

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They know deep down they're just as good and they can't take it. This is a demoralizing loss for them. I mean, after a while, you do maybe believe that you can't overtake the beast, but... Yeah, another. Yeah, I don't know. Well, there's the what more do we have to do factor, right? They won the turnover battle. They outrushed them. Mahomes had fewer than 20 completions. Right.

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You know, I don't know. They scored 29 and they became the first team to give up over 30 to the Chiefs.

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I didn't think they were going to get that one. Spaggs needed to dial up what he did for the very last Bills offensive play for that fourth down play because it came out of a timeout. It was a timeout and then one play on third down and then that play. So that was bad for the Chiefs defense. But I'll tell you, you're right with the short yardage.

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And I think we watched almost three and a half hours of quarterbacks plunging on fourth and one today between the two games. The most fourth and ones it felt like ever in the history of the league. I like that they don't make it sometimes. I really do. Maybe teams will... I don't like it.

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Like when we were growing up in the 70s and 80s where, you know, it was a fourth and one attempt on offense every six weeks or something. But I don't know. Just be a little more creative on the fourth and ones. But Cook wasn't even in the backfield for a lot of those.

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I don't know. We lost the connection. What did you say?

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That's what they needed before the last score. But you and I, I think, thought we were texting. We thought this game was over. Like you said, that second quarter.

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I thought when it was 21-10, I thought they were going to blow it out. Well, because, I mean, they were picking on that Elam guy. Like, you know, like Romo said, it was like, you know, cover one, single safety. It's just going to be the stop route all the time with Worthy picking on this. Right. Yeah. So, by the way, Romo crushed Brady today by 35 points. That was the biggest blowout.

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Yeah. House and I are doing the anniversary of a house seats three. That's when it was right. It was in new Orleans.

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I'm going to try. It's happening. It's happening this time.

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And we still will. We'll spend the next six days trying to convince ourselves, all right, the Bills can win this. Yeah, the Bills are going to win this going away. But yeah, they are just too hard to beat. And I know everyone wants to take the refs and I don't know. I don't know what to say. Like I, you know,

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I have a friend, Harry, you know, and he is just so ridiculous with these refs and he'll like bring a petition in front of Arrowhead Stadium because he thinks it's so fixed for the Chiefs. I was like, just shut up already. And then I watched this game. I'm like, those are some bad calls. I still don't think the Texans played well enough to win. Yeah.

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I was like, my God, that's three or four bad calls and they need to do something.

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Listen, they reviewed touchdowns, right? They reviewed turnovers. A 15-yard penalty, the way these guys are kicking the ball from 55, 58 yards, it almost always puts you in field goal range. So it is a scoring play, essentially. I'll say that. And the other thing I'll say is Mahomes, he's such a master of taking a late hit or maybe not a late hit.

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First of all, when he turns into the hash mark and takes a hit, that looked like a Madden glitch there. So if he's getting away with that, that's terrible. But the sideline crap where he's just falling over, it's like, remember like Seagal, Steven Seagal, like 15 years ago, they'd show these highlights of him doing the bullshit Aikido or whatever it is. And he's barely touching people.

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With the painted in goatee. Yeah, and they're doing cartwheels like they were hit by a snowplow. That's what Mahomes is doing on the sideline. I think they need to call flopping too now like they do in the NBA and soccer.

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I guess so. I respect it. Like I respect the art form. There are people who like diarrhea on a canvas and be like, Hey, uh, 300 grand for this. Like, I don't know.

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So everybody's settled down. That part's right. Can both be right that he was babied as a quarterback on some of these late hits?

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So was Aaron Rodgers. What star quarterback wasn't babied? I'm mostly with you because I don't think these Brady was whining.

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Well, maybe Lamar Jackson should, maybe they should teach a course and Lamar Jackson should pick it up. And Jared Goff should pick up the same thing. I don't know.

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I think he was helping, doing all he could in the beginning. But I don't know. It's fine. It's fine. He's no Collinsworth.

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I don't think I'm going to film until March, to be honest.

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It makes me feel good. If I have to pretend to be bopping along the Jay-Z while they show highlights going into halftime, Jay-Z would be great. That's the last 35 years. It's fine. It's not pressure. It's not any of the pressures.

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No, I wasn't at all. And C.J. Stroud was better than I thought. Like, I thought, remember his second playoff game last year, he went to Baltimore and got destroyed. And this, he was making plays with his legs. Like, that's not really his game, what he was doing. And, you know, he was hitting his receivers and everything. I don't know. They stuck around.

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And, you know, there's like a 10 minute drive that touchdown for Mixon. Yeah, it was huge.

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Yeah. So I don't even know where we are with CJ Stroud anymore, to be honest. I feel like that's just the guy you and I are going to flip flop over and over the next seven years a dozen times. But he did an admirable job.

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about as much as the lines makers thought because it came down to that very half a point but um i mean shit are the chiefs just playing a joke is it like just like a clubhouse joke like hey we had 212 total yards uh can we win with 100 total yards spags right map it out what let's see you got us we're good okay i just feel like it's just a challenge for them to do so little and win

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And yet it looks like he's attending an old timers game. He looks so slow compared to everyone else out there.

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He's so open. He's got like 20 yards around them. Aikman's good because I really feel like he's, um, I don't know. Should we give awards for like come, come back announcer of the year and come back in the decade.

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And it's because he's angry. He and Buck do a good job going after the refs. Obviously, they had the perfect game to do it for this. But angry Aikman is just terrific. I mean, they must have... I don't remember a comeback like this. I don't know what they do before the game to get him so ornery. But good job.

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Yeah. Yeah, they're very good. Yeah, they're very good. I do like Greg Olson, though, I will say. I don't even want to say he's underrated because I think he's getting a good pop lately.

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Yeah, when you have Taylor, Caitlin, and the frickin' Rizzler there, and the refs, forget it. Game over. Rizzler.

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Depends who you bet. So I feel like nobody deserved to win this bet against the spread, right? Because they're up, what were they up? They were up 11, the Chiefs, and Fairburn tries a gimme field goal and misses. So now if you have the Texans, you're like, that sucks. They should have lost by eight, right? But then, all right, so now, Depending on what you got at eight and a half or not.

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I think the reason they did that is because the only thing that would have killed them is a block punt. And it wouldn't have killed them because they still needed to score twice.

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I feel like I should get an emergency alert on my phone if it moves to nine and a half.

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We've gotten so many of them lately. What the hell? So that was ultimately good for FanDuel? Um, that was bad for, that was bad for the books because you could have gotten eight and a half with the chiefs.

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And if you bet Texans nine and a half, you, I never understood. I never. Yeah, no, that one's kind of, yeah, that's that they got screwed by that point. So everybody was saying, oh, it's rigged for the books and everything. No, that's not the example you want to use. They lost both ways, but I'm trying to think in general, if they lost money, like you and I are idiots.

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I don't know. It's just all overs all over the place.

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I think he's too young, yes. I got scared when you said that.

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That doubled up. They were even to win the conference before Saturday. I was like, that's ridiculous. They'll take care of the commanders and then they'll beat up whoever, especially if the Eagles come to town, but not meant to be.

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I'm with you. And this is where we should have bed insurance, betters insurance, right? Yeah, that's true. But yeah, also, yeah, if you're receiving the punt in the end zone, maybe, but don't run back a quarter of a mile. Right.

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Most of those guys, that's all they do is they're on the kick return or the punt return team. Just don't hold.

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With the punt return, that was like forever when we were growing up. It was like, all right, stand at the seven. If you have to take one step back, let it go over your head. That seemed to work out. I don't know why they changed that. What's the new Edith?

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The Chiefs, they big brother the Bills, I think. They're like, yeah, we didn't even care that you beat us in the regular season.

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That's excellent. And I think you're right because the most important thing for Eagles fans is that they get their angry at their team. And because they let up the last touchdown and almost another one that would have lost the game, they could still be angry at the team, but they get to watch them play another game.

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Yeah. He has four playoff wins. Let me just add to that while I have it here. Four playoff wins, career-high passing in those games, 156. So weird.

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I felt the tight end in every game should have been hit more, right? Except for maybe Andrews at the end. But Goddard, Ertz did an amazing job. We'll talk about that in a minute. But yeah, and then, you know, the big moment for me with Ertz is like, what the hell? You're not getting rid of that ball. Another safety that didn't make any sense.

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Beat him this year, beat him last year. That's going to be a fun one. All of a sudden, it's okay rooting for the Cowboys. We were easily in the best division in football. If you had to repower rank everybody, Cowboys would be fifth or something in football, in the NFL?

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That'll be what we call it. It was going to be, and then it maybe wasn't going to be, right? And then he solidified it. He's like, no, no, no, this is all me.

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I had them make the playoffs, but I did not think they'd have 14 wins. But it is interesting how that became the division, right? And the NFC North was, I keep comparing it to the SEC, who has no participants in tomorrow night's game. I think they were 29-4 outside of division and then just got murdered in the playoffs.

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Yeah, there was one indoor game. The other three, I would say this clearly gave one of the teams, the home team, the advantage, the weather, right? The cold weather and the slipping all over. And you just knew Barkley was going to break one of every three or four runs. It's just crazy. I don't know if he was going to slide short of a touchdown, which he likes to do.

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But that is incredible what he put himself through and everybody else.

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I love it. So you like it, too, right? I love it, too. I have some buddies that, you know, like you're just like, no, this is just we're not seeing the best of every team if they're playing with a shiny K-ball that they can't hold on to. I like the home field advantage. Am I a hypocrite to say I don't like it in the Super Bowl?

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I didn't like it when Denver played Seattle and it just looked like, oh, yeah, I'm going to be a shit fest. But put those in a warm weather climate. But I like everything leading up.

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I personally- I guess John Jastrzemski would have a different answer. It depends who you root for, right? If you're a Dolphins fan.

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To me, if you're a historian and you love NFL films and you love watching that and just like there's nothing better than, you know, guys grinding it out.

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We almost had a seven versus six in the NFC Championship, right? Like the Rams almost had a home game. It would have been nuts to think a month ago. But yeah, I'm proud of that team, and they did a nice job.

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House is all right. House is going to play either way. Uh, next week. It's the Rams fans. And you know what? Let's give Jack Wilson's phone number on here. So people, let's give it to the Rams fans. I will give it at the end of the show.

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Yeah. Wait, there is no answer, right? I don't think so. You'll have some Midwest. I'm going to try Tampa. I don't think it's ever. I'm not going to go through all of them. I don't think it's ever happened. All right. Yeah, House is not going to Philly, is he? Oh, yeah. He's going. He's going to go? Oh, yeah.

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They have to be on their best behavior now, the Eagles fans, because they're all recorded and they're going to lose their jobs if they curse or do anything.

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Being at the game, you could do it. There was nothing better than putting your hands around your neck, your own neck.

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They'll get back. Yeah. No. I know what you're saying. I think Campbell's good. I think their offense is excellent. I think that defense was decimated. I think after a while, you just can't... They lose three more defensive players during the game. The cornerback goes out immediately. You just can't put bodies in eventually.

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I don't want to take anything away from Jaden Daniels because I want to make a case for him being the best rookie postseason quarterback we've ever seen. But... That said, for God's sakes, how many guys have to go down, right? And I don't know. Counter? I don't know that division is so tough after all. I don't think he's going to see Minnesota with 14 wins again. So I think they can come back.

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That play, he wasn't even in on that play. It's an empty backfield on third and one.

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And you got Gibbs, I think at the time he was averaging 19 yards a touch. And he's not even, I don't even, I don't care.

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Why are you running wide receiver pass plays? Do you think that was a directive to James and William to just throw it no matter what? We don't care if the kid, the guy's triple teamed or hey, you're the fastest guy on the field. Let's take it outside. And unless, only if he's wide open, will you throw it? I think it's somewhere in between. But the Ben Johnson thing is interesting, right?

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Like all these coordinators get jobs. Unless they're on the Super Bowl winning team, their last game is almost always terrible, right? Like Shane Steichen, we've seen it. It just almost has to be. And you're right. He had like four or five really curious calls, but 45 points is a lot for the other team.

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If I told Harrison, don't cross the street unless you, there's not a car visible for a quarter of a mile on your left or right. I think it's a different thing. I don't know what he said. You're right. It's dumb that they should have had to run more. Because if they go up 14-3, that third and one play, they're up 7-3. They go up 14-3, that building's bananas. It's a whole different story.

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It was already loud. And then maybe, I don't know, maybe they don't come back, Washington.

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He was great. But, I mean, what's going to be your bottom line here? If they give up 60, is that a bad outing? Like, 45 is still a lot.

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They're zero blitzing the shit out of him. And I bet him the throw interception. I'm like, nothing against Jaden Daniels. This is just such a tough spot and such a loud... place. And if he drops back 35 times, one of them is going to end up in the Lions defenders hands. But he was getting blitz. He was like waiting, waiting. And he always had, there was always a guy open. He was so smart.

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I was, but I also thought the Ravens were unfairly favored in this game, right? I thought the Bills should have gone into this game when we did this last Sunday night. I was like, the Bills should be, they're a better team. They were treated like they were the seventh seed. Like they had just won the NFC South. Like they're getting a point and a half or whatever at home.

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You can't break him at all. Mentally, he's just on a different level

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He just, he's like having a great time. He's just like, ah, look at this. He's like a smarter than Vince Young with all the physical, you know, comparisons. And I'm trying to think what you do because you can't compare him to any of the other rookie quarterbacks. playoff performances. He's better than Flacco was. We never thought Flacco would... No, I did these on Thursday.

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Well, King won a game, but only three got to the championship game, I think. I think it was Sanchez, Purdy, and Flacco. Sean King did too. Yeah. No, not the championship game. He did? Yeah, there was five. I had it... Hold on.

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I know it flipped from Sunday night. So I thought this is as much a problem for Josh Allen and his legacy as Lamar. But you're right, except for one thing. The discourse is not smarter. The discourse is garbage. Yeah, true. Yeah, it's awful. People don't know how to watch games anymore. But I did feel bad for him, for sure. But again, it wasn't his fault. So, in a way, he gets a pass, right?

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It's a weird trajectory, right? So you don't want to peak at the wrong time because it's very hard to play great football for 17 weeks, 18 weeks. So there was those weeks two to six or whatever where he didn't throw an incomplete pass or some shit. It was really weird, right? It was just dominant. Then you're right. They had the rib injury and whatever. They weren't as good. But he picked up

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perfectly that Atlanta game. That was only a couple of weeks ago on Sunday night. If they lose that, that's a whole different, you know, this whole is shakes up differently, the seedings and everything. So yeah.

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No question about it. Yeah, the Eagles are praying for weather conditions like today, right? They may even have the game moved to somewhere like Anchorage, Alaska or something. Because, yeah, that's the only key. That's the only thing we're missing. And their coaching staff, they did a great job. They did a great job drafting and the GM, and they got the terrible owner out of there, Snyder.

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3593.474

I feel like Dan Quinn, if you don't ruin his life with the 28-3 game, is Dan Quinn like a top two or three coach in the league?

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3631.564

That's another example of a guy who his last game was bad and they still hired him away. Right. The Packers game was just miserable.

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3677.504

We don't need six new playoff teams every year, but if we get three and one of them's like Washington has a real run at this and almost plays the Rams in the championship game, it's dynamite stuff. I'm going to miss it.

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3742.389

What if they forget that Gibbs is on the team, despite the fact that he has 19 yards to carry?

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3791.96

And you have people like me and you saying, is that it? Is the window closed on this team that won like 15 games?

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3808.352

I think they can get this far for the next couple of years. But yeah, this should definitely have been one they rolled. They might have taken him lightly too. Well... I mean, Laporta's catch was dynamite. Like, there were so many turning points, right? When the 76 points scored, you could point to 30 plays. Like, oh, that's gone different.

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3831.133

But when Laporta catches the ball and doesn't make use of one of his hands, arms, it's like, oh, shit. All right, that's it. They're toying with him now.

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3852.05

I think the gambling god said to, all right, Sal, Bill, you had a good year. You bet all these money line favorites. You got to keep your money. New year, not so fast.

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We're not letting you win with another big favorite. Your wager warranty has expired. Pay the fuck up.

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3880.698

Okay. I'm still saying like, you know, the Lions... They had a ton of yards. I just I wish they had like two defenders back, like two, just two out of the 20.

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3919.071

Well, you got the kicker massaging his scalp in all different OCD directions on the sideline. You're like, yeah, he's not ready. Just, you're going to have to take a snap here.

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And I'm with you with that. Like we went over the others.

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3979.508

Okay, but if Joe House was just getting really loud and obnoxious with us, could we throw the, hey, remember RG3 card at him? Would we be able to do that? Or is this completely different? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, they were excited about him for over a year.

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You got to write that down. We're not going to remember that.

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That list I showed you was the shakies of coaches list, by the way. It was. Yeah, it was Robert Sala. I mean, Flores was in there. Kellen Moore. Deion Sanders, of course. Jason Witten. I guess we're just going to keep trying Jason's until one of them works. Like, I don't freaking know. Yeah, bring Kingsbury in. And people didn't want to interview him, right?

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4103.953

Like, the Steelers passed on him last year for defensive coordinator. Three teams didn't even want to hear from him this year.

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4267.507

I pulled into the parking lot. There were some models, the cars that were, it seemed like they were made, you know, after 1979 to be driven of more than 20 minutes. Right. And it was, uh, it was clean. The bathroom, I, I clenched my fist, but it was good. And, uh, Yeah, food still, whatever. It's fine.

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4292.044

I wasn't going to go. And then if Jon Hamm's like, you're going, right? I'm like, this is kind of weird if this guy who's in like 700 movies currently is going.

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4303.29

Oh, you son of a bitch. I'm behind. Why would you do that? Then it was the season finale was a week ago. It's a spoiler? A little bit. A little bit. I don't know. I mean, it's the first time I'm hearing it. All right, that's fine. I mean, he looked good today. I don't know. You're saying he died?

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Whatever our chat. I'm with you. Like two years is, you know, if you're telling people the Sopranos traded to black.

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434.657

Can I just, I know it's more exciting to be outraged, but can I defend him and some of the others we saw turn the ball over today? Yeah, it was 12 degrees. It's fucking cold. It's fucking cold out. It is. So we're on text chains with people like, what happened to the Eagles defense down the stretch? Why did they, why they didn't look like that at all? Well, it's cold and they're exhausted.

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What are they saying? Give him Jack Wilson's number.

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He's not going to pardon you, I hope, in his last few hours here. Yeah, two weeks is for two weeks notice. You get two weeks notice, right?

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And Brad went after you about your documentary. We don't have to go into the details. He gave you a very honest opinion. Shakey's, where you go for C-minus pizza and to get berated by... It was great.

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4430.231

Well, and especially since you didn't even know what kind of Shakey's you were walking into, although I guess you knew the neighborhood, so it wasn't as, it wasn't as scary.

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4448.784

By the way, you heard the hack there where you could turn off the 15 second delay?

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That's amazing. How did we not know about that? Why didn't they tell us? They should let people know. I mean, that wouldn't count as a spoiler. That would actually be something good for everyone.

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4486.388

I can't imagine the idea of burning calories while watching a football game. I have to take a bite of something every play.

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454.81

Like that's why they gave up the touchdown for the backdoor cover and almost the touchdown to go ahead. Why isn't Henry in there every play when he's running so well? Well, it's cold. So maybe they need a break. So I think we, we forget about the human element. It's cold. The ball is so shiny. It's easier to fumble. That was a great hit by Bernard on Andrews to force the fumble.

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4543.061

I don't either. And it's going to be liberating when I can smack you with a Subway sandwich. Although I'm almost positive you're going to guess these two. Exactly right. Look at you. You can't even hide it.

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4589.523

You're going to be mad at me because it did an hour ago was four and a half. And I had guessed five and a half. And I swear on my kids, I like at least two of them. It's five and a half.

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It's five and a half right now. God damn it. So I get that. So you have to get this one. To push.

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Yeah. And what's tiebreaker? I think I have better common opponents, so I think I'm going to win anyway.

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I was off by a full point here. No, I was off by a half a point, but you could get this.

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Oh, yes. Champion, baby. What is it? Two. It's one and a half. You should have put that motherfucker in the Tic Tac Zone.

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Oh, this is nice. I feel good. My heart's like pumping a little bit for the first time all day.

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Yeah, we did it, Jacobes. Listen, I'll trade knowing the ending of Landman for my first title in three decades. So spoiler alert is two weeks.

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Yeah. Yeah, it is funny with this stuff with like you and I trying to figure out Lamar Jackson over props and some 15-year-old makes like $35 million overnight buying a freaking coin. Yeah. The hock to a rose to disappear after a crypto thing. I got my wife the hock to a coin for Christmas. I haven't checked on it. I imagine it's going.

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But that would be my excuse for Lamar. But it doesn't really help Ravens fans right now.

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4763.959

All right, so my 11-year-old Harrison, we've talked about him a couple times already. So he and his class have what's called puberty night, where all the fifth-grade boys go through puberty in the same – no, where they get together and –

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4781.008

No, no, I know. It's something like that. But some instructor comes in every Friday for six weeks and talks to them about, lectures them about the body and the biological growth and the birds and the bees and everything like that. And it rotates at different houses. And it's going to be at our house next week. I think it's next week is our Friday. And I'm not invited to any of these.

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Like last Friday or the Friday before there was football, it was college football, so I wasn't there. And last Friday I was off. But I'm not invited. My wife has prohibited me from going because she thinks I'm going to make a mockery out of it. She's like, no, you're too immature. I was like, well, what are you talking about? She's like, well, you know, like some of the-

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She said, well, I had to know. She's like, well, some of the fathers. I'm like, the fathers are there? She's like, yeah. They'll stand up and talk about the first time they had a boner in class or something. I'm like, that seems fine. I could do something like that. Next time, Jimmy Kimmel Live. You're going to go over the top. You're going to be too over the top.

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You're going to embarrass him in front of his friends. And that's going to be that. It's not good. So I don't know. Of course, she's right. Of course, they're right. But I want to see this because I want when it's at our house, I want to make hot dogs. I want to serve hot dogs. I think that'll be appropriate. But I think like, I don't know, am I too immature for this?

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Oh, that was one of the more mature things I ever did. No, that wasn't good. I think I should do this.

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If it was Mahomes, the referees would have called me for a flag.

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Even though I didn't talk. Yeah, he knew the cake was coming. No, but Harrison, he asked my wife. After all this, he asked her, when was your first wet dream? The kid's obviously confused. She's like, no. She answered it was 1996, which is bad news for me. Anyway, these kids have a lot of questions. I don't know if I could help out, but I'm not allowed. Wait, how old is Harrison now?

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I think that's what AJ Brown was reading on the sidelines. Inter excellence. How did you find out? I mean, some friends and everything else, but was there like, I do remember going to like a parent night. I think it was fifth grade, like a, where somebody said, I don't remember. I just don't remember school talking about this. Just health class. Not until middle school. Yeah.

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So anyway, your band from this parent night so far, I don't know what I have to do to prove myself, but what are people on the chat?

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I think you just got to ambush him. I hate to say, you got to just be that fan boy.

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Yeah, maybe you corralled Mel Gibson to put him in some kind of chokehold, like Lethal Weapon 2 or something, the bodyguard, and then snapped the picture real quick.

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I don't know what happened there. How about this? How many times did the Ravens punt today? Did they not punt? I know it either ended on a turnover or a score.

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Yeah, he had a Bella girl twerking about, you know.

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Where does this, so one to ten, what's wrestling, what's, what's UFC for him?

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Yeah, like Nick Diaz has that look too, Nate Diaz, but he's also a little more approachable too, right?

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I mean, that was supposed to be minus 450. Did anyone there, including you, after the Lions lost, put... Talbot on a big Moneyline parlay.

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Yeah, yes. Yes, yes. He lost. He got killed. But anyway. No, but that's great. That's fun. And Adam, and he's a member of QAnon now, Ben?

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I'm glad it worked there and I'm glad they kept it there. I know they were talking about switching it because of what's happened in LA, but I'm glad they showed that it could work and I'm glad it was a good, it sounds a lot better than puberty night. That's for sure.

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Well, you're going to have to say peak plushness again. That came out like Collinsworth doing the pass rush.

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Yeah, but then he was right back to pronouncing it incorrectly. So there is good in the world.

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Whatever. Yeah, it's fun. Hey, you tried, kid. You really did. I'm going to go on a nice little run. What a win for you. Yeah. I'm very excited. I don't have to sweat out the Super Bowl.

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We're trying to figure it out. And like... Like, we used to like the Dodgers. You know, we talked about the Yankees of the, you know, the whatever, the Jeter team and everything.

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5481.966

You hated it, but the, you know, Pettit, all those guys, mostly, and Jeter came through the farm system and, like, you respected that. And now you just sign any free agent and you're like, all right, yeah, tax us, whatever it is. We'll bring it back because Japanese players, Japan will take care of us. Which is printing money over in Japan. They're going to spend money. Yeah. Yeah.

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So we're trying to figure out what the equivalent of that is, like with Dubai. Like if the Red Sox signed like three players from Dubai. Right.

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Yeah. Who cares if they're any good? You got all Dubai watching and spending money on them.

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Yeah, you're right. And that's a good spot for, you know, yeah. Asian Americans like they'll flourish there. That would have been a good spot. Yeah. They lost their basketball team, but that might've been the second worst decision. Not capitalizing on that.

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What do you mean? You have to change your lineup multiple times a week?

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You love the guillotine, though, right? The guillotine's good. The guillotine was good.

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Yeah, I am starting to get, like, you know, no three-team teasers anymore, right? Unless you use Ohio State or something. Oh, yeah, unless you use, like, the unders. Yeah, that's another, like, milestone part of my year where it gets very sad. Yeah. What are you going to do?

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That's a challenge. I think they will. I think they're going to come through.

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I love it. Now, you said he wasn't as excited when he got the invitation as you thought he should be? It's a weird one.

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I think the reason he does it more than anything is because he knows you and I can maybe talk about it on the podcast and then he can maybe play it back to her. Like, you see, sweetheart, you see what I did?

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It's going to be fun. I'm going to push him into a cake if I see one. I can't wait.

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That's where I'll pounce. I'll blow the whistle on him right there. I'm like, hey, he's got his phone in his shoe. Check him one more time. Keep checking him. Yeah, he does do that because we've been to like movie premieres and movie premieres like concerts or something where you have to check your phone in that pouch. And he goes, well, you go through it and everything.

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And then like 20 minutes later, he's like, baby, I'm not going to let them fucking take that. You fucking kid. I'm like, what are you talking about? You're in the same line as me. How did you just pull that off? So.

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You could blow smoke as Scotty Scheffler's doing his back.

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You shoving him into the gallery? It's going to be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got this nine. Yeah, look at Rory's losing that nine iron. Now, he could probably make... My nine iron's better. It's a bunch of higher quality. He might be able to use his more skillfully, but mine's better. Mine's made in Prague. We're going to have fun. It'll be good. He might leave early.

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Right when they tried the two point conversion to tie it up, you're like, there's no fricking way they're going to get it. Otherwise the spread wouldn't have been one and a half. Like I wish I could live bet the two point conversion, but yeah, yeah, that was bad.

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He might actually leave early. What do you mean? I might drive him so crazy that he's just like on a plane. Like it foregoes the last couple of days. When was the last time you were in a house with him? It was one of the bachelor parties. Might've even been Jimmy's.

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I have a fun video where I threw water on him when he was taking a nap. Remember that one? It was like at a bachelor party. And I'm like, baby, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. He's like, what the fuck you mean? You're kidding. I'm soaking wet.

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Come by next year. You'll be right there with me. Good job by you, bud.

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Yeah. Yeah, I don't know where to go with it. I'll say this, though. I feel like the game could change no matter what. It could change what a catch is. You could change replay, what it can cover, what it doesn't. You could add stick them to gloves. But the one thing's a constant, and especially in the playoffs, If you have more turnovers than the other team, it's unforgiving. It really is.

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I mean, Allen had, what, 125 yards passing? Hertz had about the same? If I would have told you in the beginning of the game, hey, beginning of the day, those two guys are not even going to combine for 260 yards. How much money would we have put on the other sides? I guess we would have covered with the Rams. But it is unbelievable, tried and true.

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656.556

You turn the ball over, especially on the road in the playoffs, you're going to lose the game.

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Yeah. I mean, Derrick Henry's great. He was the steal of a free agency, but I was looking at this line, and I was like, he has just as many games under 100 yards than he has over. They're a little bit fraudulent in the four teams they beat over the last month, the offenses they played, like Pittsburgh twice. Who was it? The Browns and the Texans on that dumb Christmas game where they scored two.

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Yeah. I don't know. I was like, maybe they could figure Henry out and they didn't. I know he had those big drives and it'll end up with decent numbers, but they held them to like 26 yards, I think in the first half. And that was good enough to have that lead was 21, 10. They held on to that.

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Yeah, well, I had them with the Lions, so I feel like it's already a bust. But yeah, I mean, like I said, I thought they were undervalued in this game, and maybe they weren't the better team. But the Ravens took too long to get going, and those turnovers absolutely killed them.

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Yeah, you didn't see that Lamar gigantic scramble in the second half or like the fourth quarter, right? I mean, that was there for them in the first half when Henry wasn't really doing it on the ground.

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I know. Like I said, it's not fun and it's not highbrow Warren Sharp type analysis saying it's too cold for these guys. But I think a lot of it is that it made for great viewing. Right. That was fun. We watched the Rams Eagles together in the snow. We've got to all four games are excellent games.

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Yeah, like Wallace, I forgot he was on the tip. Wow, that's the biggest catch of the game. But yeah, I think you're right. And I thought you were going to go after Harbaugh a little there. It's like, that is a little weird for coaches held in such high regard to now be double digits losses. with, uh, downtown at the break.

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I was getting PTSD watching it. That's how he was drafted, the same stomp. He doesn't change the stomp. He stomps down the... Yeah, all right, so that's mine.

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Yeah, how do certain guys figure it out and certain guys don't? It's just weird. And you wonder if they're practicing at all during the week. But go ahead.

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They, yes, he was, at one point it was eight for 22 with like a few dozen yards passing, right? In a close game where you needed him to convert a third down. He wasn't doing it. And you're exactly right. And Steichen has to take shit for this, but the double pass reverse thing,

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was a better option, even though there was probably a 30% chance that it was a pick six or a fumble, whatever the hell that was called.

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I think someone was probably supposed to be blocking that guy, but still, that was their best option. It's really bad.

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It's looking like a really bad draft pick at this point. I feel horrible for the guy, but yeah. Today he was 17 for 38. Yeah, and he made a comeback, like I said. It was eight for 22 at some point. Yeah, so... That goal line thing, because you brought it up, what the hell's going on with that epidemic?

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It happened twice today, where the guys are dropping balls like a quarter of a yard before the goal line. I don't know what goes on.

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Yeah, if there was a big end zone. These guys are professional athletes. Right in front of you before you had the orgasm. Yes, it would be the same thing, but you should be able to figure out where not to drop. This doesn't happen in other sports. Juan Soto's not rounding third, and then when he's between third and home, takes off for the dugout.

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I had to mention Juan Soto because he's the greatest player of all time. Maybe you'll get invited in his 22-person suite.

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I'm sure Jonathan Taylor was pointing and laughing at Deshaun Jackson or whoever the hell did it in college or anything, right? And then they ended up doing it themselves.

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Oh, I'm up. Okay. All right, let's see. I could read you who's left on the board. Well, let me just go with Jameis. I love him, though, too. Damn, I really do love him. But I need to see. There's not the excitement. We're not getting to the top of the roller coaster anymore. We just keep falling. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, it's not that good. And, you know, he got sacked a bunch and threw four interceptions. But, of course, I had the Browns plus four and a half or five. But, yeah, you can't depend on him at all.

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We should have had house for this. A dessert version of ranking the bad quarterbacks. Krispy Kreme donuts, s'mores. Who gets the Mike and Ikes?

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Can I go with Howell? We just saw Howell. I can't stand Sam. Mike, I got to... I got to get out of here and go Christmas shopping. I got to go get Jack a Cuisinart. I can't watch this idiot.

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statuesque really good I'll put him on the list because he that was maybe a game they could have played back into teaser territory but not because not while he was in for sure I have I'll take Bryce Young next just because he looked good at the start of the game

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Yeah. Uh, that was, um, Against your team, not exactly the 85 Bears. I'll tell you, I was a little depressed, even though I'm out on my team. When we did guess the lines, it was like one and a half. Then it went to two and a half. I'm like, this team hasn't been favored in 34 games, and now my crap-ass Cowboys team catches the two and a half points, but they stood up, man.

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I think they got pissed off by that. I really do. That was their best complete game since, I look back, since I think the first time they beat the Bills in the Super Bowl, 52-17. This was the After that, the best game they've played.

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Yeah, I'll take him. Although, like I said, this is the fat family member to stand next to. You play a team bad enough, and you're going to look good. So Wash Rogers is always there.

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The Jets are like, look, are you sure you want to lose this game at home in front of these fans? We'll give it to you. We're giving you a chance here. Yeah. The fact that Belichick met with them earlier in the year is just, I mean, I do believe it. I do believe it. You hate that.

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No, but I know. But he's not the most righteous dude in the world. I think your second scenario is pretty... It could happen. Like, he kicked the tires. You don't think he'd take a call from Woody Johnson as much as he hated them? It really depends on how much he wanted to break this record.

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Actually, I have something to talk to you about, Phil. Yeah. I know it's going to sound weird. Yeah.

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Yeah, and he really pivoted because he made everyone think he wanted to go for the record for most wins in the NFL. But as it turns out, he wants to go for the most losses all time in college football. And that's why he's with Carroll. No, I think it's a good move. I think he did everything right. And I think you probably said it about like doing all the media for a year. He's loose.

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He still gets it. He's still in tune with the football. Even the girlfriend, I get it. I'm sure they're madly in love, but it really does show that he could like wrangle and relate to younger people. This is going to work. I think it's going to work.

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And so what, you know, the team was six and four and they lost that last two in a conference where, you know, the team that won the conference is like the 12th seed in the NCAA. Like he could turn it around. It's not, it's not, not impossible.

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Well, he's going to recruit 35 guys. And so like eight of them have to hit versus NFL where you can only draft like seven dudes and four of them have to hit. I think the odds are in his favor for sure. No rules is good for him.

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It's so funny because the reverse that I saw was that the Chiefs have not scored 31 points this year and any, and they compared it to other teams who have not scored 31 and they will have two wins, three wins, four wins. Like they're all junk. And through the years they've all, been junk. So yeah, there's, there should be a happy medium, but yeah, I mean, that's my Super Bowl, Detroit Buffalo.

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It was, it was, it wasn't good. I wish that game was, it was entertaining, but it just wasn't good. You never, I never thought the Lions could come back. I mean, I know people get on Campbell for onside kicking there, but the Lions gave up 8.2 yards per play. They kind of had to do something at some point. No, can we argue about this?

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You just say it really low. So they kind of can't... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Allen was jogging for first downs. I mean, he must have looked up and down the roster. So Carlton Davis was hurt. Dorsey was carted off. McNeil, the injury got worse and worse. I get it. He is too aggressive in general. That was too aggressive.

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Yeah, but it's also screwed up. I know what you're saying. Like, Goff threw five touchdowns, and he had five interceptions against, was it the Texans? And he won that game, but lost this game.

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Yeah, I'm trying to think. The one seed is a little... I saw 43% for Detroit, 34% for the Eagles, and yet Minnesota controls their own destiny. They have tough games, but if they win all three, or I guess four now, they still have to play tomorrow, then they get the one seed.

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Bill Belichick's defense? No. It sucks for them because if this was the 1950s and we played a 12-game schedule, they would be in dynamite shape.

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Even the flip passes on third down that just have to get over the line. Like he's just doing, like I said, he's like jogging out of bounds for seven yards. And maybe it was mostly because it's a lot. I think what we learned from the bills as bad as the defenses and everything is They are a tough out. We saw that with the Rams, right? The Rams had them dead to rights.

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They didn't belong in that game at all. They're a tough out, and when they get up, they're going to get up too much, and it's going to be hard to come back on them. So it might just be enough. By the way, that MVP run, it should be an SB probably for multi-view player of the year, but that MVP is over. I don't know if in reality Saquon ever had a chance, but he's minus 900 now, Josh Allen.

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So, but how many teams could beat him? Like, you know, like, I don't know. They already beat... I know they never count the Chiefs out. Now with Mahomes, it might get sketchy anyway. But who stops them in the AFC? You think like Lamar? Like heads up?

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In August? I thought we did well in August. No, you're right. Yeah. I had enough of the Browns and the Raiders and just shitty teams like that. You learned though. You learned. You learned. I'm still betting Will Levis. I learned a lot.

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But imagine what her reaction would be If she had watched the 10 AM, the 1 PM games out here and then watch Josh Allen. Oh my God, this side doesn't belong in the league or those guys don't want one or the other because they're playing a different brand of football.

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I thought really bad. And they only had two drives in the second half, if I'm not mistaken, I look it up and yeah, I think they just walked into a situation where Philadelphia, you know, first of all, the AJ Brown thing, the squeaky wheel, AJ Brown figured it out. Yeah. If I'm Jahan Dodson, the third string wide receiver, I'm complaining all week.

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Talk about how he and Jalen Hurts relationship has changed over the last two months. You'll see your targets will go up, but yeah. And Barkley didn't even have that great a game, but he left, he was gone for the whole second quarter. Yeah. I like the Eagles, but I still don't understand. I based it on Russ, and I'm like, this guy's got to have a bad game.

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He really didn't have that terrible a game. He really didn't. They just never really, I don't know. I know time of possession will indicate this, but the drives were great for Philadelphia. They didn't squander any opportunities.

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Yeah, they have trouble there, too. I think they lost their last nine or last nine against the spread in Philadelphia. So I kind of like everything. I took that. That was a win for me. I took them adjusted nine and a half Philly, which was outrageous because Tomlin as an underdog is usually good. But I just figured. And so now they're locked in as a three pretty much.

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I know we're going to play the few, although the Ravens is a big one now. We have the Ravens to win the division. We're back in it a little bit.

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Yeah. Maybe I think you're right with this weird 10 day stretch. Maybe we do like I do in the NBA where you take both teams minus nine and a half. I don't know what the equivalent would be in football, but it's not, it should be, we should have known this week was going to be weird with the crap fast Thursday game, San Francisco and the Rams. That was so bad too.

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Is there an MVP case for George Pickens? Maybe that should be a separate award, right?

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Yeah. Very weird because it seemed like Baker was going to have a reckless type of game, right? And then he just righted the ship. I feel like Herbert, you know, he was really only like Thursday where he came off the injured list. He did not look good at all. Yeah, he wasn't thrown with force.

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Well, yeah, because there are four teams, right? And you kind of have to win like all 12 games before you lose a game, right? To make money. I don't know. It's tough. That game sucked. The whole day sucked. I was so disappointed. It was like nine hours of Tyson versus Paul. Like this was supposed to be a great day. It's still football, so it's great.

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Do you think they're afraid of the, well, they're afraid of the result because what were you like 130% conversion on fourth down with Belichick and Brady? Brady had got stepped, I think twice out of 1200 plays.

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Right. So maybe that's the thing. I'm exaggerating, but. No, maybe not. Look back. I don't, you know, listen, I have you right where I want you. I want you to be infatuated with this Drake May because otherwise you get sidetracked and we talk about the NBA cup and pretend that it's great for 15 minutes every Sunday. I love it.

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They were excellent. And I just think we have to look at Josh Jacobs for these next few weeks like we look at Barkley and we look at Henry. He's just going to take control of games. I really do. I don't know what happened. I don't know what kicked into gear. I mean, he's been good all year. Tonight he was special.

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Yeah. That said, they're plus 180. I mean, the Rams didn't impress me at all Thursday night. I know it was in the rain and everything, but I feel like 49ers dropped seven balls on offense and defense today.

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one of them catch it's a different story but guys quitting on the sidelines they're in the game yeah yeah that's all kind of stuff happening uh plus 180 though for seattle they could they could i know you're down on them right now and you have enough on it but i could see them well gino got hurt what happened to gino right that's true we have to see i know it was a knee injury so yeah how mr howell's not taking him anywhere i was really i gotta say i was really disappointed in seattle

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Yeah, that game was disgusting. That Cooper Cup with a massive middle finger to fantasy owners. I mean, no catches. Like an Andre the Giant-sized middle finger. And they still won that game.

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But not one game was solidly compelling from start to finish. I'm so disappointed. I didn't even lose that much money.

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Well, they end with the two teams in their division, right? I do think this is the one division that'll come down to week 18. They're home against Seattle on January 5th.

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That pass was so bad, too. So bad. That was one of the worst of the day. And because he got sandwiched. Meanwhile, the guy from behind didn't really get him at all. There was nothing illegal or nothing, you know, even close. But from the front, it looked worse than it was. Some of these pass, the roughing the passers are like Justin Fields got one. It's like, I don't know.

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There's been some really bad ones. They're like, oh, well, they hit him high. It's like, yeah, because he went low at the very last second. Otherwise, that's not high.

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You're selling Arizonas? You don't like them 7-1 for the division?

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Oh, no, no, no, no. They always. Oh, yeah, you're right, because if Baltimore falls in that four or five, they may not give it. They're not putting Lamar in the Shakey's game. He's too good. Right.

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Yeah, yeah, that would be that where that goes. So then the other NFC South gets the Shakey's game where you really think Pittsburgh in the Shakey's.

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They like a cold one, though. Last year it was the Chiefs, right? It could be Buffalo. They might do Buffalo there. So Chargers at Buffalo, Harbaugh goes to Buffalo? Maybe. Yeah, that's good enough. They got enough to talk about there. Chargers will actually have fans more than they did today. It'll be interesting.

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Well, you're right. If Geno Smith's iffy, they don't have a chance. It is weird. He should be better at home, though. We went over stats on the pregame show. The 12th man does nothing for him.

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Is the referee's name Dan Quinn? I mean, I know that was... Look, I'm not saying... The league got in their ears because everybody had Washington on a teaser and they needed to screw everyone over. But the refs stopped the clock. Sorry, fast forwarding to 20 to 13. Rattler to Foster Moreau, nine seconds left, clearly inbounds. And the refs stopped the clock for no reason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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And then they score with three seconds left and then they go for two, which would have killed money line parlays, but it was enough at 20 to 19 to kill the minus seven and a half switch went to one and a half. That was bizarre. And then they taught, they, they said they screwed it up after the game and they're like, but we can't review that. We're not allowed to review that.

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So they can make the worst error you can imagine that everybody could see and agree to it right then, but they can't change it.

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Poor House, I know. But listen, for us, we have to be looking forward to, we have to zone in on who's the team we want to root against in the playoffs or bet against in the playoffs. This Washington team's got all the makings, I think.

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Yeah, I guess we didn't talk Mahomes getting hurt, but that's about it.

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He's definitely not playing this Saturday, right? No question.

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Yeah, but that said, not playing Saturday and for sure playing. Oh, because they need him on Christmas. He has to play Christmas. Netflix spent way too much money on that game, right?

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He's playing that game. That's what I'm saying. But not this week. And that's why... Yeah, I mean, Netflix offered Jackson Mahomes a stand-up special. They offered... They'll do whatever they can to get him there. The wife could be in Squid Game 3. Whatever they want, he's playing in that game.

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Well, because they're two up on Buffalo, right? One and a half, technically, because they lose the tiebreaker. So be it if they lose the one game, but then there'll be two left. There'll be a half game up. Also, if I'm them, I'm fine. Oh, no, we're the two seed.

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And speaking of fucking, you're fucking tied with me right now. It's 7-7. I know. I know. 7-7-1, week 16. You haven't beaten me since 1932. Stop it. Before then. I was off on a few, but we'll see. Let's see. I hit this one exactly, though. I know you're going to think that's bullshit, but I did hit the Thursday night one. Guess the lines Thursday night.

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And that's what it was today. Does that make sense? Let's think about this. It was three against Tampa. Denver is equal to Tampa, even though the Chargers got slaughtered. I think Tampa's a little better than Denver. Tampa's a little better than Denver, right? Tampa's better, but keep the three because Tampa's better. All right, yeah, that's fine. A lot of Broncos fans.

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You didn't even mention the worst one. Who? It was Tua. I mean, it really is the worst. I don't know when in the order you want to get to that game.

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And now we're going to bankrupt Fandle as a result. And you can thank my Cowboys for beating the Panthers. You can thank that's one step closer.

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That really helped us. Because it's a big day. Yep. Two Saturday games.

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Edge out there. You'll get this next one, though. Texans, too.

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Oh, man, you got me. I thought you were going to go lower now. I said three and a half. It's six and a half. So I think we could hedge a little with our Ravens. Yeah, I mean, we could cover this. We won't win both, but we could take six and a half. And they can win an 18-16 game like they played in November.

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Yeah, we did the whole AFC. Did we do that before the season or like week one? No, we saw like a month of action. They were like, this is stupid. We got it.

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It is a lot. I wonder what they, they're just predicting, like they're going to melt down at this point. Like they, you know, all right. Tomlin has them over 500 like he always does. And now we see them slip to the six seed or whatever.

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I know stats-wise he wasn't the worst, and I might just be saying this because he screwed my fantasy season. I switched him out for Bo Nix at the last minute, but Tua is number one. And in terms of who I wouldn't want on my team, and I'm sorry, I know Dolphins fans are going to get mad at me and us, but the way he contorts his body, I mean, there's three things he does that are horrible. Yeah.

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Yeah, I think it's Eagles-Washington. Yeah, I think you're right.

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I think that's the only reason. 26-18, the last game, I was in Philly. Yeah, I guess. I'm down on Washington. I don't know why.

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They never punted. Yeah, and they were a two-point conversion away from a terrible team from losing today.

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And, um, I mean, it's going to be more if there's no Geno Smith, but it seems like he's playing.

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No, I don't think so. I think he'll just become like a great running back, whatever. He'll go where he goes. I mean, who was the last great one? Bijan? I mean, the last one that went, did he go 10? Bijan was pretty high. Yeah, he was top 10.

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I guess as of tomorrow, I guess it will be. So Atlanta's favored by five and a half over the Vegas, but Jaguars, they suck too. I don't know.

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His body language is such that he turns his body, which allows the D-backs to jump the route. No other quarterback really does it like this. And then he puts, you know, I'm glad this guy's in stable condition that they, you know, they had to rip the jersey off and everything. But this is what's going to happen with Tua. Also, he's obviously injury prone.

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There's got to be somebody that has a... Let's go to our next-gen stats and see who fucks up more good passes.

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Oh, you get this. I said eight. It's seven. Oh, you're right. I do fucking get it. You get it. You get it, man. Do you not have San Francisco, Miami? Isn't that weird that that's at best a fairly watchable? That game will be awful. No, I know, but it's... Their fans don't want to watch that game. But if I would have told you Tua's the starter for Miami and Purdy's the starter for San Francisco.

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I know. It's a brutal watch. You just took Tua at number one in the bad community. I know. I know. A month ago, if you would have said this, but they suck.

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West going east. McVay, yeah, they let down maybe a little bit. They need the game, bro. They have extra rest. We'll see McVay, extra rest, stats and everything. You get it. It's three. I said two.

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Also, he can't win in cold weather playing in the AFC East. I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'll keep sending him Christmas cards. I'll never stop. But he's the worst.

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All right. I get this. I said Miami by three. It's Miami by two and a half. Oh, wow.

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It's interesting because they showed the DJ's record against teams that are above 500. But I feel like Shanahan's getting there too. He's getting there too lately.

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I know. This was the week. That's why today was the day to celebrate, and it's great. But yeah, those Saturday games, screw it.

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They're good. I said eight. It's ten and a half. This is going to be your week. Eight to five, you're up. I'm going to try not to watch any of that game. Can we see the Falcons a little first before we make them a 10.5 point favorite? Can we see them Monday night? Sunday might be a let's not even do a pod. Is that right? I don't know. Do we even need to do it? Look at these games.

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They're terrible. Well, you might, you know, you might. The Sunday night game is Tampa Bay-Dallas.

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Vegas zone right there. Good luck to both of those teams.

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Yeah, that was bad. He I felt like he broke his wrist the way he's fumbling, fumbling that game away. But yeah, this was 21-14 when they played in October. I had Bengals by six at home over the Browns. I get this. I said seven and a half. It's seven. That's your teaser game. You love it.

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Yeah. Yikes. I won't be depressed, Simmons, after this game. Thank God. Thank God they didn't beat the Bengals last week because now I would have been looking at seven and seven. Could they catch Washington?

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Wait, do I have a chance here? I'm sure you do because you cheat. No, I don't. Well, first of all, I was way off on the Monday, but I have I had three. It's three and a half.

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You have a four-point cushion. Best of luck to you. Thank you.

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All right. I said eight and a half because I'm an idiot. It's 12 and a half.

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You're going to have a 13 point. You'll have a 13 point teaser with Pittsburgh plus 19 and a half Atlanta over the Giants. You'll figure something out. I can't believe the Seahawks let me down like that.

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All right. What do I have? Well, a couple of things. My oldest is home. Came back from Oregon like Thursday night. Right. So first night home. He's not going out with his friends. I'm like, oh, that's cool. We'll stay home. We'll watch. We want to watch Goodfellas for the 907th time. He's like, no, let's watch some NBA. I was like, oh, Jesus. So he's an NBA hole.

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Listen, he is on the site that this is what he claims. He claims it gives you play money that you can turn into real money, but you can't lose real money. So he's gam. I'm like, all right, I'm not going to investigate further. I know what you're doing. I invented this shit. It's fine. He's got... like six NBA parlays go on. He's live betting all these games. He's like, no, wait till this team.

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No, if Dallas goes down nine, I'm going to hit him now. I'm like, it's like, my son is like Raheem Palmer. He came home from college. I got a burner room. He's got a burner room. And then like in the NBA, you'll go, there'll be a 19 to two run and you'll be either on the good or the bad side of it. It's amazing. So that was that, that, that scared me so proud.

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Yeah, I was proud and I was terrified at the same time. So that's him. Quickly, my middle son. Next Saturday is a great sports day. Now, I thought today was going to be a great sports day too, but here's what you got, Simmons. I know you don't care college. Tennessee, Ohio State. All right, the football games are going to be tremendous. Tennessee, Ohio State, Penn State, SMU, Texas, Clemson.

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We talked about Chiefs, Texans, Steelers, Ravens. Usyk versus Fury. Oh, I'm aware. It's a It's a monster day. My guy is sick. Yes. I want to just veg out in front of the TV. I want to lose a ton of money. I want to drink non-alcoholic eggnog, whatever I have to do.

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The problem is my son Jack has a wrestling tournament and he could potentially do well in it because it's a JV tournament and it's all day and it's all the fights way the fuck somewhere else. And here's the thing. There's 40 kids on the team. Only 13 of them right now don't have ringworm or empitago. Empatago is like a staph infection. You get it from the mat.

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These schools say they clean the mat. They don't clean the mat. These kids come back sweaty. They don't shower and they have everybody's dirty sweat closes up. It's the most disgusting sport you can play. It is gross. He's going to wrestling practice. He weighs 126. There's so few kids now. He's rolling with like a 155 pounder. I'm like, what's going on here?

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So I was like, listen, I don't ask for much. but I need Saturday. Please, please do what you can to get Empatago. Please do it. Don't tell your mother. Can you lick the mat? Yes. Go all the roll, stay extra, stay afterwards, whatever you have to do. He's looking at me like I'm serious. Get Ringworm. Do what you can.

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So I will keep you posted, but I need this boy to get Ringworm so I can watch Penn State SMU. Here's $200. I want you to lick the mat after practice for three minutes. After everyone else looks at Matt, give them each 50. What a sports day that is. You're a Usyk.

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Everyone's home. Six refrigerators for different animals.

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I don't know what's going on here. We're going to get in Patago drinking all those coffee mates. That's for sure. Did you see...

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No, I haven't seen it. I heard we're on a text chain when you were discussing it. He's so evil. He goes evil. He should get off the poster.

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I'm going to have to check it out. I got a bunch of my cue. I end up watching dumb shit like the New York Stack Exchange, the Mark Gastineau. I listen to him carry on for an hour and a half. But anyway. Did you watch that documentary? Because I didn't watch it. Yeah, I'm like 40 minutes in. I just can't get enough of that nonsense.

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Anything? Oh, yeah. Through the ringer with Tate on Wednesday. By the way, the kid's breaking news left and right. On that show, on December 4th, he can only say so much. He was instrumental in getting this thing going with Lombardi and Belichick. I thought he was going to be there as the athletic director. I think they offer you, but you should be careful.

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I think they offer him some kind of ambassadorship or something like to help with the culture or something, but it's good for him though. I mean, this is good. This worked out great for you, right? Like, cause he retires a Patriot. He's not going to go three years with UNC and then end up with Seattle. Right. So that's it. He's a Patriot.

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It's got to say the bear and then UNC. We're going to see it. I want an hour and 20 minutes and then mention the ring of pregame show. I'm 13 and two with my wisest wager. Good, good job by me. I had the Ravens. Come on.

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You wanted to put them in a teaser. You're like, will it get to 14? Can I tease? I'm like, just take 16 and a half. It's fine. It's good.

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Can I simplify it a little bit with another food analogy? He's the Krispy Kreme. He gets creamed. He's the creamed and crispy, but the Krispy Kreme has to be perfect. But whenever you have a Krispy Kreme, they're like, oh no, you have to have it right when it's out of the oven.

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Just sitting them in the locker room before the game like, fuck, we got to fucking play the Giants. The Giants want this first pick so bad. They want it so bad. So that's it. Cousin Sal's winning weekend on Friday and against the odds twice a week. We're 12-4 with our NBA picks. Only place you need to go on Ringer if you want to make money betting hoops. There you go.

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You know, if the Giants got Sanders, that would be super fun.

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Just watching that Mara, just watching Mara and reading about him. I don't know if he wants to put up with the whole Sanders family. Yeah, I don't think so. I think that's a Cam Ward team, to be honest. Where would you play Hunter, receiver or cornerback? I think it's fun. If the Patriots get him, why do you have to only give them two options? They could do anything. Make him a running back.

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That's going to be the issue, right? But I don't know. Deion himself played wide receiver and deep back, so maybe it could happen.

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Yeah. I think he's fine. You should watch it. Did you watch his acceptance speech? I think you'll get on his case. It's four and a half minutes. Just do it. It's better than Jason Bateman. Yeah, it's good. Better than Jason Bateman? Well, I can't compare it. I didn't see.

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It's gotta be 80 degrees and it's gotta be outdoors and the receivers have to be healthy and he's gotta get rid of the ball in three seconds. But if you have a three-day-old Krispy Kreme or one-day-old or that night, forget it. We're talking about donuts.

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No, I even thought, well, maybe, first of all, it was 78 degrees in Houston. I don't know why I thought that. It was 78 degrees. It's like a Cowboys-type dome where you can still feel the outside and see the sky, but whatever. So he's my number one. I know that's dumb to take him over somewhere.

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I feel like that's another insurance ad that we'd be pounded with. You're in safe hands with Hayner. And then there he is throwing like, yeah, he had the headshots that got him the job. And then Rattler came in. Yeah, we could talk about the end of that game later. That was insane.

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It's a few reasons. Jacoby would get carpal tunnel syndrome trying to write that article in 2000. Oh my God.

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All right, well, these are going to be personal because I stupidly had Tennessee as my upset. Come on, don't laugh at that. That's not nice.

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I mean, why do I do it, though? I mean, at least you hadn't seen Hainer, right? At least there could have been a surprise in there. How much data do I have to see on Will Levis before I stop betting on him or betting on that team? And I now think of it now as like, These teams like Cincinnati, if they want to look good, play a Will Levis.

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Like if I want to look good in a family photo, I'll stand next to my fattest relative, right? This is what the Bengals did. They found the fattest relative as Will Levis. 10 turnovers in that game. Not all Will Levis, although it seemed like it. He's disgusting. He's gross.

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They took him out. They shouldn't have taken him out. They should have punished him further for that.

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That's how you know the difference. All right. Who's your next one? All right. You have a dual entry there. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Some good ones. You know what? I know there's some lesser experienced guys. I should probably go with Mac Jones. Just like when I had him on my board, of course, how could he not?

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And, you know, I guess when you have coach middle seat, like everything's going to look bad anyway. But Mac Jones still making rookie mistakes. And I think we saw the same play. They were driving. It was like third and I was like second and second. Right, right, right. And he rolled right. And he had time. He had like everybody beat. He wasn't going to make it to the end zone.

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But he did not have to step out of bounds. And he sure as hell did. He could have flung it into the third row and it would have been fine. And it's like, oh, man, I have money on that guy, too. This is awful. Why are they even playing the early games? Yeah, a little. I always bet against the Jets.

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Does that scare you a little bit? Because you praise your guy, Drake May, and everything.

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It's so hard, I think, for us. I don't want people to feel bad for us because we're doing what we love. But we look at football and players, I think, through all different lenses, right? We look at them, like, historically. We look at fantasy-wise. Like, Baker's great. Exciting. He's top three or four, five exciting.

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And it's like, okay, but where does that put him actually, you know, in terms of building a team around him? So I don't know. I don't know if I want to say he's top four or five or anywhere in there, but I love watching them and I love everything he brings to that team. And I feel like he's in the prime of his career. Don't compare him to Flacco. Don't compare him to any of these other guys.

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I hope people don't do that anymore. And I think you're right. They were one of the best teams in the NFC. I think they get a bad rap because it's the South that they keep winning.

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Here's the thing. Once the college games are really good, I'm like, oh, the NFL is going to suck now, isn't it? We can't just have all right. The college games are excellent. Yeah, they were very good. And then coming into this weekend. But a lot of people all over.

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can we just accept the fact that we're probably not going to get good competitive games in any sport in the playoffs for the first couple of rounds? Can all we really hope for is a good final four as sports fans and not like tear each other's eyes out, arguing over who has the better system. Like the NBA might actually have the best. There are some good four or five matchups. every year.

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But then they have some finals that suck too. So I think you just have to hope that the final four is good and let the cream rise to the top.

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Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to talk about the NBA at all. I was just using that as one of the many examples.

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House's team is going to win for the first time in 20 years. And you're talking about this stupid parlay we have with Sacramento and Indiana.

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Well, Houston was in Shakey's and now they're in this one. So it's like Shakey's opened like a pop up, you know, and like somewhere, you know, and it's like a cool area. Maybe. I don't know. There's still the first Saturday game.

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Can I feel your nipples, Mike? I can't feel each other's nipples. You might have no feeling, Mike. That's not a night game, huh? So they're doing that three Eastern on Sunday, and then Romo Nance get the good one, the great one.

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I guess it would have to be. Because Minnesota's never won the Super Bowl. Do you feel like Philadelphia is going to make every game shitty now, no matter who plays? Yeah. Well, hold that thought for 30 seconds.

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I don't, I still don't know who the MVP was. They're excellent. I'll, I'll stand by Josh Allen, but again, you can't really be mad at what's going on. If some, if some one or the other, uh, wins it, I'll say it seems like Lamar has a little more help with Derrick Henry. But other than that, they did beat Buffalo. They beat him pretty good. Buffalo beat the one seed. It can, you can go either way.

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Yeah, and I hated the way... This is the one I'm going to get salty about because it's the one I lost, but I had Green Bay plus the points, and I wouldn't say Washington deserved to win as a road team. Fine. None of the other road teams showed up, right? Like Denver, Green Bay, you can't make a case for any of the Pittsburgh, but Get that kickoff right, man. Just get that right.

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It's all about momentum when you're on the road. If you're going to lose a call, if you're going to lose the opening kickoff, you're really kind of screwed there. And I feel like there were enough replays, including the overhead to show. Oh, you're going here. Oh, I like this. Okay. I'm not a ref killer.

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Every time the Chiefs games are decided by something close, I'm like, ah, it's hard to call it regular speed. But if you're able to replay something and you have all those angles and you have that overhead, he had it for like a two Mississippi count. Like, is it easier now to just start digging your way through the earth to come out the other end?

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Is that easier to come out with the ball than it is to come up from a pile above the ground? I don't know. I don't like that. But anyway, I had to get that off my chest.

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It also goes against all their crap about player safety. Like, oh, really? We're going to keep this going past the whistle? Because you obviously blew the whistle, and then this guy got it torn from his clutches. So I don't know. Anyway, Green Bay didn't score enough to win that game, and every receiver was hurt, and I don't know who they were throwing to. So good for you, Philly.

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But they didn't play great either.

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And for the most part, as long as they don't get in a third and long situation, they're fine. If they're third and three or third and one, they can line up for the tush push on third and one and he can back out and throw it long like we saw or hand it to Barkley. It is a huge, huge advantage. What the Ravens do, what the Bills do, and specifically what the Eagles do with the tush push

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and third and short. I mean, because you're going to convert on fourth. But yeah, everything this team does bugs me. Now, Barkley, enough with the sliding down. You're an unselfish player. Should you be a social worker, maybe? Like, score touchdowns. People are betting on you to score touchdowns. Enough already. You sound like you over.

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It's not like you're up one and you don't want to go up eight because they're going to get the ball. Like, just finish it. It's crazy already.

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Yeah, the Steelers had like 200 yards in third quarter, and then there was no points at all after that.

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Yes. What were the odds of that? It was like 7-6. I mean, the first... I don't know when you want to talk about that. One more thing on Hurts, though. His three winning playoff games, 131 yards against the Packers, 121 yards passing against the Niners, 154 against the Giants. I don't know if we've ever seen anything like this. I know he's not asked to do that much, and he doesn't. And they win.

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Yeah. When he shoots off to the side, he'll take a hard hit for a two yard game. Right. Like, I feel like I'm like, Hey, cut it up. What are you, what are you doing? I don't know. I'm not good. Right. Whatever. He's gone to the Superbowl and everything, but just read a book on the sideline every now and then Jalen, come on.

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To a point where you're like, oh, does your team suck? I mean, you keep saying they do.

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I agree. I don't know when. I'm trying to think when we loved them. When did we fall in love with that team? When were they peaking? Was it six weeks ago? Because you're right. They never really beat the good teams. But they never really put together good. I guess they were just beating up the crap.

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Yeah, it's funny. Like after Saturday, I'm like, well, have we learned anything about the Chargers and Steelers other than it's the same team we've been looking at for eight years, right? You can't really trust them. The Steelers knuckleballed their way to the playoffs without a good quarterback and then don't show up.

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I don't know what you want to talk about next, but the Chargers were just brutal too.

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And then they lost. Doing the tush push, their version of tush push. I don't want to make excuses for them because they got beat. Probably shouldn't have won. But that kickoff is a huge moment. You can't turn it over on the road and you can't miss field goals. It's a bad time. Denver missed a field goal. They weren't going to win that game.

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You know, I guess the bottom line, the message is don't fall in love with these quarterbacks too much. Jordan Love, CJ Stroud, even though he won, not as good a year. Drake May, you know, I can go on and on. Just don't fall in love with these guys.

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Yeah. Right.

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I thought we were going to lose FanDuel as a sponsor. I was like, is a favorite ever going to lose again? Right. And then when Tampa was winning tonight, I don't even know. But yeah. They gave it to us.

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I'm so excited for it. It's an incredible advantage. Like I said, these two teams have even more than like Detroit. Like I'm wowed by Detroit's offense too. But when you have like Josh Allen, like rolling left, it just looks weird. Variety quarterback rolling left and he could slide slither his way for like seven yards. And then Lamar did that.

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I think he probably had like five of the first eight carries against the Steelers. I'm like, oh, this game's over too. They're done too. So yeah, when they go against each other, I was so nervous about that Buffalo game, Simmons. I'm like, we all need this to complete a parlay. I had Ohio State to start it and then anchored with these other two.

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And the orange pants were a killer on the eyes for Denver. And then they scored right away. I'm like, shit, this is what we knew.

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Yeah, I can't wait to watch this. Romo said it. He's like, you could have a spy on these guys, but they're just better than all the spies. They're faster. They have a better, keener sense of the field than all the spies. And it's just tough. And you look at the Steelers, whose defense ended up being just average, right?

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But I was thinking, wow, if they can't stop Lamar, if this can't be like a 17-15 type game that they're used to, forget it. Who the hell's going to do it?

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And James Cook is very good and they don't rely on one guy. It's not Stefan Diggs. Like, oh, you don't get him the ball. He's going to be mad. No, you look at the box score. They'll end up having like eight pass catchers.

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It worked. And Tomlin, I don't know. I mean, that's six games in the playoffs. He's gone down by 21 or more. I don't know what you think about this guy. And then I look at the quarterback situation. It's like, this team doesn't have a chance unless the moon ball to Pickens works. It has to work like four times a game now for them to even have any kind of chance.

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I think it is. Yeah. Look it up. I have one more I could add to that. Yeah. Let's hear it. Yeah. You called them the best AFC team back like December 2nd or so. That might be another one. They were. They were the one seed.

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They weren't better than Buffalo.

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It's fine.

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I don't know, but I also know they don't have the luxury of what the Patriots did, right? Because they're not ever going to be in a position to draft a great quarterback, right? So if as long as the streak gets, oh my God, he did it. They went over eight and a half wins again. You went on that. That's great. And then it's a first round exit in the playoffs.

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That's not going to change anytime soon. But now you're right. The margins are getting thick. The season is just too long for them. They're losing by too many points in the playoffs. I don't know what happens to that guy. I don't know what happened to their defense.

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Yeah, I don't want to say he's losing the locker room, but this is the closest it looks to that in a long time. Would you trade Mike McCarthy in a second round pick for him? I gotta say, I was a little annoyed that the Patriots signed Vrabel. I'm like, oh man, Tomlin could be available for them. They just waited like 48 hours. For the Pats?

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So what's the quarterback situation? Not that I care too much, but what possibly can they do? I know what I would do. I would trade the first pick for McCarthy. But then you still have Russell Wilson or Justin Fields and McCarthy. No, no.

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Oh, okay. Not Mike McCarthy. I know it's been a tough week, Bill.

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I got you.

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This was beyond Shakey's, right? We haven't gone in a while, but if we did, people would be chucking their mojo potatoes at the screen for the first hour and the manager would threaten to turn the game to reruns on Telemundo.

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I, my best bet was the Texans over 19 and a half. And you were making fun of me. Like how are you Texans over three and a half points looking? And I, I deserved it. They were terrible. I still don't think I picked the right side. They went 32 to 12 and I still don't think I got it right. I don't know if there was a right side. Oh, I think it was two wrong sides.

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And Herbert's so weird because he'll throw a 22 yard completion to McConkie. I'm like, wow, that's the best throw of a football I've seen in a long time. Yeah. What a cannon. Yeah. Four interceptions later. I think we were going to rank his top 10 bad passes, but they ended up too many. We can't get to it.

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Oh, man. Can I say both? I'm not allowed to say both? You can say both. I'm going to say Houston, primarily Houston. And they scared me last year. Remember, that's what sent me on a tailspin and some others when we bet against them. I thought the Browns were a better team last year, right? When they went to Houston and Houston throttled them. I was like, you know what?

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The Chargers tend to have... I mean, now you got this quarterback, going back to Herbert, He's had, what has he had? Like two teams that had three interceptions and he couldn't, the three turnovers and he couldn't beat them? That's the thing.

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He never won one, huh? Never won one. As much as we heard about him. Yeah.

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Not so fast, Bill, with them not winning the title. I, Jaden, Jaden Daniels, his face is bleeding. I just, I just want to lick that blood right off of him. No, that's good for Joe House. Yeah, like you said, somber week, shitty week, but I feel good for Joe House. One of our freaking teams is going and advancing, but he was awesome, Jaden Daniels. He was really, I mean, they were coming after him.

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So close.

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I don't think they passed as much, I guess.

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Full Gannon sounds better anyway, I think. Yeah.

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I'll say this about Herbert because I don't want to bury him completely yet. But, you know, I don't know that Harbaugh is as psyched as he was a year ago, right? I don't know. We could stop the comparisons to Joe Burrow for sure. Fine, keep comparing them to Tua. That's good. But I don't know. If you're Harbaugh, What's your thought process now?

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It's like, oh shit, this is going to take a lot more work than I thought, right?

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CJ Stroud? I don't know. It's a toss-up for you. That's close. That's maybe where you got me. Wait a minute. There's not more? There is more. Drake May? No. Come on.

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You're not a good businessman. Whoever said you were a good businessman? Here's an interesting one.

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Eight's a lot of years. If you told me four or five, I think it's easier.

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I think so, yeah. I love Baker.

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It's so funny. Oh, you paused. We all have to wait until tomorrow to see. Yeah. I don't want to look foolish. I'd say no, probably.

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For that guy to not turn the ball over once with the heat he was facing and just big play after big play, good for him and good for us from finally getting a good game 36 hours later.

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You're still talking to yourself. Yeah, because it'll get you 10 wins and maybe you can get lucky in the playoffs. And they were not lucky or good yesterday.

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Some of those nose, I would rather take some of those guys down 10 than Herbert for sure.

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I love doing the pod with you, but yeah, it was a little tidier when everything was done by Sunday night. And also, make that game in Vegas. Move everything to Vegas. When in doubt, move everything to Vegas. What's Glendale? Which game? Oh, the Rams-Vikings. Yeah, why isn't that in Vegas? It's an easier drive to Vegas if you're in LA.

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If it's a football game, if it's a bachelor party, if it's an intervention, just move it to Vegas. It's an easy thought.

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I don't know.

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Tampa over 27 and a half points. And he said Washington would win 28-27. Yeah, he was really threading the needle there.

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There's always like a two and a half line that they screw you with, right? Like, oh, I just have to pick the winner here? The Chargers are better than the Texans. So that was the one.

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They're basically opening the floodgates for a tease. They've done a weird, disrespectful thing for the Chiefs and their lines, you know, as much as they can for a 15 win team. And they've kind of done it all season long. The big thing I'm hearing is it seems like it's a disadvantage for And Fandle is also treating it as a disadvantage that they've been off for two weeks.

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Like, oh, the Chiefs are off two weeks and they didn't play anyone week 18. So that's really two weeks. Yeah, they do this every year. And they win the Super Bowl like every other year. So why? Yeah, they have a lot of infrastructure.

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And I think they're delighted in this matchup, honestly. I don't think they want, you know, they wouldn't have been afraid of Harbaugh, but the Chargers played them well twice. I think they had a two-point loss and a seven-point loss, and Harbaugh going to Kansas, you know, I think Andy Reid gets a little freaked out there. But they'll slap this team around, I think.

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pounding the ball down their throat i don't know listen i'm i'm teasing the chiefs i'm just telling you and i i know it's been a rough week you and i and your financial planner we're gonna sit down tuesday wednesday ish and we're gonna figure out how much you want to put on the chiefs ohio state money line parlay and so you're oh you're still in on ohio state yeah yeah that's easy so let's just do it not have to worry about anything you're not afraid of notre dame

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No, no, no. It's a mismatch. It's a mismatch up front. They're going to get bullied.

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That's exactly what I thought. And I stand by it. our friends at Fandle have the Bills only favored by one and a half. Ooh, the tic-tac zone.

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Did we see a little flipperoo?

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Can we talk about what this means? Like why, how they may have arrived at this? Because it doesn't really make sense to me.

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Go ahead. Let's do it. Which quarterback would you want over Derrick Henry?

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Well, week nine against Norwich is junior year. He says he had the flu, but he only went for like 130.

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Oh, I think you could be right about all that stuff. I mean, it's amazing. A guy does so well in high school that he's drafted in college and he does so well in college.

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But his yards per carry went down a couple of those years. But he's unstoppable. I get it.

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Listen, Persia Walker slowed down. FanDuel had Saturday highest rushing yards on Saturday. I was like, it's Derrick Henry. Why is it minus 125? JJ's arguing with me. I was like, just stop. Just bet Derrick Henry to have the most yards on Saturday. He's going to have the most yards for the weekend. What did he end up with, 186? 186 or something. So, yeah, he's great. They're great.

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The only thing is, I don't know. Sometimes they don't figure out how to manage the load between Lamar and Henry. Sometimes.

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I'm not going to argue. I will have to see his stats in Turkey Bowl when his parents played him when he was nine years old and stuff, but I'll trust him.

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He ran for 4,000 yards. Sign him up. I know, it's stupid. It's really dumb. Yeah, he's got a lot of wear and tear on him. It doesn't make any sense. Or he doesn't. Or he has no wear and tear because he's a freak. Maybe it keeps going.

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I still think one and a half's light. Sorry.

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Yeah. I don't know. Where does the line end up, you think? You're going Ravens. As soon as we hang this Zoom up, you're putting the Ravens on a teaser with somebody. I know you are.

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Mack Hollins had 13 touchdown receptions in high school. Played varsity in ninth grade.

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That's preposterous. I know.

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If he went to our son's high school, we'd be talking about him so much. Our kids would hate us, right? Like, shut up, dad. Pay attention to me. It's like, yeah, but you got a running back in your school who ran for 4,300 yards.

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Wow. I said seven and a half and it's eight and a half. Oh. Wow. You're going to beat me this week. Wait a minute. Do we even have to do Guest Alliance tomorrow? Yeah, we do.

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And Detroit's 8.5.

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The over-under is by far the highest so far at 55 and a half. So I guess they're thinking it could get out of hand with one score, even if it's close late. Well, this lined up really nicely for the Lions.

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Give me, if you're Dan Campbell, and let's say you get through this game, out of the three possible opponents, Rams, Vikings, Eagles, who do you want?

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Familiarity. Yeah.

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But what if A.J. Brown puts down the book? Maybe he'll finish Inter Excellence by then. He's got a long time.

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I know. I just read you his numbers and that he's winning these playoff games. It's ridiculous. But it does bug me that third and three, they got you over a barrel every single time.

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We'll get that up. You're right. I'm up three to one. I won the week. I'm up three to one. We'll do it for fun. What's the... Are we tied now for the season? You're up now? We were tied heading into the week. Yeah, so I'm up by one.

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That almost could have been intercepted. Yeah. Yeah.

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Hold on. Let me read you my guess the Lions record in middle school. I went 16 weeks in the road.

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He was awesome.

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I mean, Arch Manning, Trevor Lawrence were big, but Arch Manning didn't play.

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Oh, Adrian Peterson, right? That's a good one. Obviously, you slowed down in the last couple of years, but yeah, a ridiculous recruiting class.

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Yeah, right. Yeah, the whole thing. I'm sure the listeners will come up with a couple. Yeah, I know. They're going to kill us for missing an obvious one.

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It's like, is it six now? What is it? Oh, I'm sorry. Eight and a half. No, it's eight and a half. So tease them with the Chiefs. You could tease it. Like I said, we're going to sit down with your financial planner. Okay. All right. Can't be taken away.

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I'd be scared of anyone if I was Philadelphia if the plan was to play like they did today. But they're not playing Philadelphia, right? They're playing Detroit.

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Yeah. And that's also part of it. And so I know this goes on in like Maui and other places and we should be thinking about that. But yeah, when it's in your backyard and like people are checking in with me, I'm like, I don't know. I'm good for now. I'm all right for now. I have no idea. And it depends on the wind. And somehow, did you know they could predict wind for three days?

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I didn't even know they could do that. But so we know like there's bad shit ahead. Yeah. and we know a lot of people who got devastated and it's really rough. It really, I don't want to bum everyone out, but it really is like, Oh my God, you feel like you have so much control over your life. And then, and then you don't, you really don't with like something stupid like this.

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And we don't know how it started and we don't know how it's going to end. And, uh, and that's, uh, and we need football as a distraction and it, it's hardly ranks as important, but, uh, I mean, for God's sakes, I wish we could like talk about this as if it's going on in the past, but it's not.

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Yeah, like you said, even the reporters and these firestorms that are going on 100 feet behind them. It's like, what is going on? And like I said, I wish that the worst is behind us. But then we have a mutual friend that's a doctor at UCLA, and he's like... Yeah, man, they have to evacuate this hospital if the if the storm, if the fires come within two and a half miles of this place.

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Has it not happened a lot? I'll say four.

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And it's right now it's four. I was like, are you kidding me? What the hell? What does that look like? Evacuating a whole giant hospital like that's that's my God. That's going to be something that's just even more outrageous and right up there with anything else.

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So, yeah, just, you know, plenty of GoFundMes out there, plenty of places to look to help plenty of fucking scammers too that are assholes trying to take advantage of this. But just be careful and be diligent and, you know.

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After all this parlay and teaser talk, let's just get everyone safe.

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I mean, it was just, it's crazy. Your week started with one of the Bella twins twerking four feet from you. I mean, I think.

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That was minus 65,000 to make parent corner. And, uh, too many terrible things happen.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they're not going to play again. So that's good. But yeah, that's... They're solid, Washington. As far as the coaches go with the fourth and two, I was with you. I like... Just take the points in a lot of these situations. I know they proved me wrong, but the plays that were running for Jayden Daniels weren't great.

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They were making him a pocket passer there on like fourth and two and fourth and four. So I was all for taking the points in most of those situations. It's a different story when it's the Eagles and it's Hurts and Barkley. And if I have Lamar, if I have Henry, you know, if I have Josh Allen. But other than that, fourth and two is still fourth and two. You can kick a field goal.

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And I was okay with them leaving that field goal on the board too.

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I don't like it. That was the play where there was disarray at the line of scrimmage, right? I never liked the next play after that. I don't know what it would have been. I know there was easy stuff happening with Evans, but I kind of get it. There's so much to go after bowls for. That's not one of them.

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I just like saying Vita Vea, Bill. I'll say Vita Vea over and over and over.

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Hell yeah. Yes, you got a rookie quarterback that didn't, like I said, didn't turn the ball over at all in many instances where he could have. I mean, that's got to be his, you know, I don't know. They might be banged up and the Lions are more rested and everything like that. But I think this for now, now that we're talking like a week before, I think this is closer.

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They do get screwed with the Saturday thing though, right? Yeah. Six days. Yeah.

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And another strike against him was the ownership, and there was defecation in the stadium. We can go on and on and on. It doesn't really make sense. Dan Quinn's done a nice job with this team. And like you said, this is just a... They call it lightning in a bottle with this Jaden Daniels. It's terrific. But congratulations on Vrabel. I think that's fun for you, right? Good news to end the week?

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Yeah, it feels like...

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nine years you know there's a reason he looks like a veteran he's almost as old as Joe Burrow I was thinking that with Bo Nix too I was like maybe I was wrong about all this and the rookies if they have like 60 college games under their belt and they've all played in like high profile bowls and you know they don't really get shook but we'll talk about that game that's a whole different story but listen I think part of you is saying Vrabel did this with Tannehill he could do it with Drake May isn't that the bottom line he's never had an elite quarterback ever

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I picked it right at Washington. I actually went four and one. My playoffs have been terrible over the last few years. Did you get three and two or four and one?

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I think we felt the same way about Rams Detroit last year. Remember, I watched your place and I go like, why do they have to square up in the first round? This is good. Yeah. So yeah, Baker's great. When he takes off, you have no choice but to root for him. Somehow he's got legs. There's like 200 more rushing yards this year than he has in the previous five, any of the previous five or six.

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Like it's really, it's spectacular. And Mike Evans just diving backwards for a first down. It is really tough. Irving runs hard. Defense plays hard. It's a good team.

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Yes, yes, yes. Denver? Sure. Clippers, new arena? Amazing. Golden State, sure. Memphis? I would rather own Memphis, yes. Really? Really?

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Yeah, and it was looking like back in 1992, all my buddies, we went to Vegas and none of us had a phone and we were on top of the world. And then we all lost each other and we were like a pissed off mood and didn't talk to each other on the way back. And that's kind of how it was. You don't have a phone. You don't have anything.

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And you have Baby Doll, who is about 65 minutes late in estimating where he's going to be at all times.

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Yeah. And I think it was like, you had no problem leaving them. And House and I felt a little bad, like, Oh, this is our child acting up. Why is he kicking everyone in the shins? We should stay back and have a talk with him or at least make sure that he has a ride back because he doesn't have a phone and everything like that. But you have to understand like with him, I'm going to date myself here.

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This is like the toy when he's there. He is just shopping and nonstop shopping. He could shop like for hours and hours. And like it's such a so conflicting because you want to walk and you want to go right. You're breaking Roger Bannister's four minute mile.

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You're not even really looking at the course. You're checking out your sketches and all the way up. And baby's stopping every 25 feet. Like, yeah, this is where Seve Ballesteros bailed himself out on 14. And, you know.

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Like, oh, let me see that. And I toss it over, what would it be, like two or three rows of ropes?

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No, much funnier. Way funnier for Sal. One more. Let me just throw one more. We're in Atlanta once. We're in a car. We get picked up by these executives. Jimmy's going there to get a Coca-Cola commercial, we hope. And we're going to tour the factory and everything else. And we get picked up by these guys. And I'm in the backseat with Baby, who's bragging about his sunglasses.

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Yeah, these are my $300 sunglasses. I couldn't bring my $500 sunglasses because I want to put that through the machine. But these are $300. I have like four or five of these. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I had enough of the song. I'm like, oh, let me see. Like, what the hell am I going to do when I see it? I take a look and it had a sunroof, which was open.

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And I like Michael Jordan, just perfect, like right through the sunroof outside into traffic.

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Right, right, right. He's in the boardroom. These guys, big PowerPoint presentation. Try to woo Jimmy. They're in suits and everything. And baby is always on the messed up time. Although Atlanta should be on the same time as New York. But I think I flew from LA with you guys. But anyway. Fell asleep during the meeting. And I take a bottle cap. And I said, baby. And I toss that and he hits you.

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And you're like Spicoli and fast. I'm like, you dick. And nobody knew how to react.

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I knew it was a bad idea, but it would be good for this. I just instinctively, I knew.

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It's the most perfect security camera clip I've ever seen. I didn't know the Heimlich, and I didn't know if these security guards were catching it.

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If you knew you had the camera, maybe you still would have filmed it. But Brad lived. He lived, right?

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You're nicer now. You're older. You're a nicer guy now. But in Chang's case, he's already tortured. I mean, can you find a more tortured man? He's not like bragging about shit like baby.

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The big part of it was your cousin, you know? Me? I think you read Jon Stewart a bedtime story every day.

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No, but you know, as you said it, it's kind of genius. He gives the toast to give the impression that he's there for most of the night, knowing that he's going to bounce 20, 30 minutes later. Fair enough. That was not why I did it, but it worked out though.

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So, yeah, we had last night, we had an incident where we ran into an agent that we both know. And he was, I don't want to say, but he's a little sloppy. And it was like, all right, this is going to be a two minute conversation. We know how let's just be done in two minutes. And he's like, And then he's introducing Baby to someone else. He's like, this is James Babydoll Dixon.

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He manages Jon Stewart and John Oliver. He doesn't manage John Oliver, but Baby wants this conversation over so fast, doesn't even correct him, right? But he locks eyes with me like, all right, I'll let him go. 30 seconds later, he's telling this guy, you know, oh, not only that, but Baby Doll is a member of four clubs, four golf clubs, pretty prestigious. He's like, excuse me? Four? Nine.

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Will you teach him, Chang, about like charity and stuff like that, that he can put his money to other places?

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It feels like he played with him because he followed him on every hole and yelled words of encouragement.

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Speaking of smokers, I don't care. If you want to cut this, that's fine. But baby, you know how he brags about knowing people. We saw it with Rory McIlroy. Rory didn't pay attention at all. Didn't give him the time of day. This will happen. Oh, baby claims to know people. He doesn't know people. Oh, John, Sean Penn is on the show. Jimmy, I have to meet him. I'm going to go see him. Oh, yeah.

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In your monologue. And, you know, then he goes on to tell stories about his relationship with Sean. Maybe they did nefarious things. Maybe he was smoking more than cigarettes back in the day. He tells me the story or whatever. So maybe he's like, all right, I'm going to go see Sean. And I'm like, I'm fucking going with you.

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And he's like, you know you're biding your time here because he's not being forthcoming or whatever.

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And then publicist like shoots up like, get out of here. You two get out of here now.

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It works every time. About what? About 800 important people guarding whatever or leading you through to somewhere ever. And it's a nice way to F with people.

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He was good in that. He was very good in that. You might not have seen it yourself. I'm looking at you now.

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Yeah, it's not even worth talking about. But to be honest, how lucky are you to have navigated this representing three heavy hitters at late night and avoiding conflicts for the most part for two and a half seconds?

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Why? They're dumb. If you're not reselling them, what's the freaking point? It's like the Beanie Babies of the golf world.

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But I wanted to resell them, though. You did? Well, yeah. I wasn't attached to them.

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I had Morikawa. He was minus three, then bogey, bogey, bogey to even. I'll stick with him, but I almost feel like at this point you put money on Scheffler because if he's like this tomorrow, I think he'll be like minus 40, 150.

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I love it. I love everything about it. But I don't think you could say that. I don't even have an answer for you. But I think it's eliminated because most people would rather be home on Sunday watching on TV than following the action because it's so hard.

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There's nothing like the walk with you guys. You guys knowing the ins and outs of every hole. And hey, if we're in this spot, we could see three holes. And aside from just Amen Corner, there's just a whole bunch. Like, oh my God. Like if you walked around your neighborhood, I don't know if you would know the streets as well as you do like the holes and everything else.

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I don't know if we should do this. Insult. I'm insulting. You should be insulting.